apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim || Ruby 2.1.1; 2.0.0-p451; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<t4nk766> Hello
<havenwood> hi
<t4nk766> I'm having issue with the ruby gem "Daemons". When I use Daemons.run it seems that it stops processing the script. Does anyone know a way to prevent this?
<t4nk766> I have something like ['script1', 'script2'].each do |s| Daemons.run(s) done but it never starts script 2 unless it's already started.
<t4nk766> s/done/end/
<t4nk766> no one has used this before?
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<imperator> not i
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<imperator> but looking at the docs, i sorta get the impression you're not supposed to call it more than once
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<t4nk766> well there is a specific section for controlling multiple daemons at once.
<t4nk766> But it's using run_proc instead of run
<t4nk766> but run_proc has a fundimentaly different setup, where you include the server code in the controller
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<t4nk766> The worse part is it isn't just perventing it to run twice
<t4nk766> its preventing the rest of the script to execute.
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<imperator> i'd report it as a bug then
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<t4nk766> imperator: ill email the dev and see what comes of it.
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<ReD-BoY-> any suggestions for person who never did any programming before, and who was working only on Win for Learning Ruby and Rails i have only good knowleadge of CSS and HTML
<ReD-BoY-> ?
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<Nilium> Suggestions for what?
<ReD-BoY-> what is best way to start learning
<ReD-BoY-> considering that i am windows user
<Nilium> Learning what? Ruby? Or Rails? Or both?
<Nilium> Windows doesn't really factor into it except for it being a crap OS for coding.
<ReD-BoY-> Mr. Nilium, i am looking to learn writing as much as i can
<ReD-BoY-> so i probably need ruby and then rails
<Nilium> Probably read Programming Ruby and then find something for Rails.
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<ReD-BoY-> is it possible to run unix on USB HDD
<ReD-BoY-> like a virtual server
<ReD-BoY-> something to read about it and how exactly to do so
<ReD-BoY-> coz i have a hudge experience with Win and i am afraid that using Unix probably will put me in big trouble, because i have no idea how to work with it
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<Nilium> Unix?
<ReD-BoY-> yea i read that there is way to put virtual machine
<ReD-BoY-> on your Win
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<ReD-BoY-> using Unix for Rails developers on windows
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<Nilium> Let's just ignore other operating systems and whatnot for now, since I get the impression you don't really know anything about them.
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<ReD-BoY-> i actually runned rails on my win
<ReD-BoY-> with WebBrick
<ReD-BoY-> and sqllight
<ReD-BoY-> and mysql2
<ReD-BoY-> but i need some book to put me really in database and coding practices, because i read many articles and i started with some books
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<Nilium> Just go read Programming Ruby for now.
<Nilium> I'm pretty sure you're getting ahead of yourself.
<ReD-BoY-> but i don't understand
<ReD-BoY-> actually good
<ReD-BoY-> i am afraid that i am writing the code
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<ReD-BoY-> and following and everything works
<ReD-BoY-> but i actually can't understand some of the way it works
<ReD-BoY-> or i should read it once and then again
<ReD-BoY-> as non-programmer
<ReD-BoY-> ?
<ReD-BoY-> i read Learn To Program and started with Ruby 1.9-2.0
<ReD-BoY-> but i feel like i am going forward without learning
<ReD-BoY-> and i tried rails book, but there is more missunderstandings for me
<Nilium> I have a lot of trouble understanding what you're trying to say, so here's what I'm assuming: you've never written code before and you want to use Ruby.
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<ReD-BoY-> i have done onle markup language coding
<Nilium> Therefore, you should go read Programming Ruby.
<ReD-BoY-> from 5 months i am
<Nilium> That's not coding.
<ReD-BoY-> reading articles books
<ReD-BoY-> and trying things, but i feel i am not really understanding what i am writing
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<Nilium> That's nice, but you're just going to have to keep trying.
<Nilium> There is no set ah-ha moment for you and you'll just have to keep trying to learn.
<ReD-BoY-> and what about OS
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<Nilium> Doesn't matter.
<ReD-BoY-> i am really looking to start building web apps and using my own server
<ReD-BoY-> i have no any worry to start over something new, but here i am comming to question, does i have to do that
<ReD-BoY-> because i have really a very hudge amount of knowledge in Windows and i think it will be wrong if i go to use another OS
<surrounder> then don't
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<ReD-BoY-> ok thank you
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<ReD-BoY-> i have just a last questions is there is any book, for back and front end development, or it will come with learning Rails
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<oddmunds> morn
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<kumagoro> hello
<yorickpeterse> man I absolutely love MongoDB
<yorickpeterse> Honestly, it's the best thing that ever happened to the programming industry
<yorickpeterse> It's so well designed
<yorickpeterse> They follow semantic versioning
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<Silex> yorickpeterse: you make it sound like we should all use it
<Silex> yorickpeterse: it only applies for specific use cases no?
<yorickpeterse> Everybody should use it
<yorickpeterse> always
<Silex> let's make a mongodb CPU
<yorickpeterse> I love it so much I just want to smother it
<yorickpeterse> with a pillow and a club
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<Silex> yorickpeterse: just curious, would you use mongodb for a simple with 2-3 nested relations? e.g user has many projects which has many files
<Silex> simple website*
<yorickpeterse> I would never ever use MongoDB if I could
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<yorickpeterse> Hell, I would actively campaign to try and show people why it's a better idea to eat your shoes than to use Mongo
* Silex realises you were ironic
<yorickpeterse> Yes
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<yorickpeterse> Every time I think "You know, it sucks but sometimes it's ok" it kicks me in the sack again
<Silex> I have zero experience with it and close to 0 with nosql in general, I was just curious if there was something to the hype. I use redis for sidekiq jobs and it looks ok
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<yorickpeterse> Redis is a very, very different thing
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<sandbags> Redis seems to me to have few pretentions and do a few things very well
<yorickpeterse> Redis is basically memcached with types
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<avdi> yorickpeterse: please never stop ranting. This is great.
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<yorickpeterse> hahaha
<DefV> hml
<DefV> I like memcached
<DefV> eh
<DefV> redis
<yorickpeterse> memcached is nice
<DefV> :-)
<yorickpeterse> it's one of those few things that "just work" (tm)
<DefV> yeah, I wanted to say redis
<DefV> :-)
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<yonkeltron> if i've been having memory issues in larger data-processing applications, could i use something like weakref to help the runtime identify which bits it can throw out after moving from stage to stage?
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<centrx> yonkeltron, I'm not very familiar with weakref, but with data-processing usually the issue is loading too many records at once, instead of using batches
<centrx> yonkeltron, What are you using to access the data in Ruby?
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<imperator> i'm gonna snap
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<imperator> isn't .to_str supposed to be used for implicit object conversions?
<imperator> where the hell did they get this .to_path shit?
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<centrx> Pathname is a parallel world of filenames
<imperator> that's one way to describe it
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<avdi> I'm a fan of the to_path protocol. What's the problem with it?
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<whitequark> I concur, Pathnames are awesome
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<yorickpeterse> well the solution is simple
<yorickpeterse> don't use Windows :>
<centrx> That is always a good solution
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<yorickpeterse> man all this shit going on lately makes me seriously reconsider organizing a conf
<yorickpeterse> (The Github stuff, Jeff Atwood being a douche, etc)
<yorickpeterse> basically one nerd fucks up and your neck is on the line
<havenwood> yorickpeterse: what conf you thinking of organizing?
<yorickpeterse> havenwood: BBQ thing here in .nl
<havenwood> ah, nice
<yorickpeterse> but I want to do it with biological/animal friendly and vegan food & shit
<yorickpeterse> so basically a hippie gathering
<havenwood> yorickpeterse: so no bbq whale
<yorickpeterse> haha I don't think you can even buy whale here
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<imperator> github stuff? jeff atwood?
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* imperator hasn't paid enough attention to the latest drama apparently
<yorickpeterse> which is uh "inspired" by ....
<yorickpeterse> and apparently he was an ass towards the original author as well
<yorickpeterse> so yay
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: I find it hilarious that people say stuff like "biological/animal friendly" when "friendship" is a social construct
<whitequark> it's just a giant circlejerk session
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: what I mean is e.g. chickens that actually had a life
<imperator> bbq. in the netherlands. i find this a strange concept
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<yorickpeterse> imperator: our summers are quite nice actually
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<imperator> not so much the weather as the bbq part
<imperator> been in the colorado/kansas area too long i guess :)
<yorickpeterse> well it's a bit different from going to a conference for 2 days, only hear people talk on stage and then go home exhausted
<yorickpeterse> I was thinking of maybe a few talks and then fuud tiem
<yorickpeterse> e.g. talks in the morning, laughs in the afternoon
<yorickpeterse> but it's still a pretty vague idea atm
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: you should come, I'll show you how we civilized people feast
<yorickpeterse> :>
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: ha
<whitequark> I actually have a solution which would satisfy everyone, both greedy capitalists and "nature" zealots
<whitequark> just engineer chicken which are incapable of feeling pain or lack those shreds of consciousness that they may (no idea if they do) have
<imperator> and Smoke Palace in the evening?
<whitequark> problem solved
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: you mean like tofu?
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: I mean like meat
<yorickpeterse> imperator: if people want to smoke their guts off that's their choice
<yorickpeterse> btw it would also be alcohol free
<yorickpeterse> so yeah, hippie gathering
<yorickpeterse> "Rubystock 2014"
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<ljarvis> hi
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<havenwood> helloo
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: how are the feet? :>
<yorickpeterse> also hi
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: also
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: GIVE US FUCKING RELAPSE ALREADY
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: much better thanks, still hurt but way less, few more days on the meds will hopefully kick it
<ljarvis> psh ya'll aint ready yet
<ljarvis> (aka it's not ready yet)
<yorickpeterse> boooo
<yorickpeterse> Chronic was never ready
<yorickpeterse> * too
<ljarvis> haha, im learning from those mistakes
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<cored> hi
<cored> does rspec unstub methods if I re assigned another expected return value to one of those stubs?
<cored> the second expec the one that updates always is returning the same
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