wumpus changed the topic of #bitcoin-wizards to: This channel is is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies, not about short-term Bitcoin development | http://bitcoin.ninja/ | This channel is logged. | For logs and more information, visit http://bitcoin.ninja
metamarc has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
chris13243 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
cluckj has joined #bitcoin-wizards
CodeShark has joined #bitcoin-wizards
shesek has quit [Read error: No route to host]
King_Rex has joined #bitcoin-wizards
metamarc has joined #bitcoin-wizards
metamarc has joined #bitcoin-wizards
rusty has joined #bitcoin-wizards
King_Rex has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
shesek has joined #bitcoin-wizards
dEBRUYNE has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
hearn_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
snthsnth has joined #bitcoin-wizards
Burrito has quit [Quit: Leaving]
moa has joined #bitcoin-wizards
priidu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
priidu has joined #bitcoin-wizards
bendavenport has quit [Quit: bendavenport]
snthsnth has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
snthsnth has joined #bitcoin-wizards
moa has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
nwilcox has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
StephenM347 has joined #bitcoin-wizards
SwedFTP has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
bedeho has joined #bitcoin-wizards
Dr-G has quit [Disconnected by services]
Dr-G2 has joined #bitcoin-wizards
psztorc has joined #bitcoin-wizards
psztorc is now known as Guest7765
belcher has quit [Quit: Leaving]
mentazoom has joined #bitcoin-wizards
priidu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
metamarc has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
p15x_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
StephenM347 has quit []
mentazoom has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1]
lmatteis has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
stevedekorte has quit [Quit: stevedekorte]
Guest7765 has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet]
<fluffypony>
they're going to invent their own memory-hard hashing function for it
<fluffypony>
called...uh... Crocodile
<fluffypony>
and that will make attacks infeasible, plus there will be a paper on it and everything
<fluffypony>
a purple paper
* ryan-c
slow claps
jlrubin_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
snthsnth has joined #bitcoin-wizards
ThomasV has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
<gmaxwell>
ryan-c: why? sounds like a perfect fit for that system. Pretextual key security for a pretextual consensus system, produced by a pretextual non-profit funded by pretextual "donations", and issuing pretextual computational credits.
<ryan-c>
gmaxwell: Lulz. How have you been, btw? Haven't seen you on IRC in a while.
<amiller>
phantomcircuit, no never witnessed anyone mining like that, i think mining pool watchers would notice and in any case it would have to affect the noticeably affect the stale block rate for a while before it would work, so i think we'd notice
<fluffypony>
he's not on IRC right now, you're speaking to an AI running on the Ethereum blockchain
<amiller>
lmatteis, hasn't been accepted anywhere yet, we put the paper on preprint server immediately after submitting it to a conference
<fluffypony>
every sentence costs 0.0001 ETH
<lmatteis>
amiller: is it hard to find venues where to submit these kind of things?
hearn_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
Guyver2 has joined #bitcoin-wizards
bbh41 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
<amiller>
lmatteis, it's complicated, once you admit to being an academic then you need to accumulate points by landing research at good venues, and you get more points for better venues, so it's better to submit to the most prestigious venue where it has a chance (but not a certainty) of getting in
<lmatteis>
isn't it double blinded reviewing?
<amiller>
research is a weird game with occasionally useful side effects
<amiller>
yeah, but it's a balance and i think the trend is moving
<amiller>
you are required to hide your author name in the submitted version and remove giveaways in the paper itself, and reviewers are supposed to just look at the submitted version, but in cryptography especially it's a trend to put a fully-named preprint ahead of time
snthsnth has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
<lmatteis>
ah interesting
<lmatteis>
also from the biblio you can figure out who's the author
<amiller>
anyway, a similar insight was made by aviv zohar (ghost and bitcoin red balloons) http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.06183 they also used a much better/thorough method and found even better strategies
King_Rex has joined #bitcoin-wizards
<amiller>
the composition of better-than-selfish-mining with eclipse attacks is new and unique to our paper though
King_Rex has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
snthsnth has joined #bitcoin-wizards
prodatalab__ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
prodatalab_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
eudoxia has quit [Quit: Leaving]
b_lumenkraft has quit [Quit: b_lumenkraft]
agorist000 is now known as metamarc
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
prodatalab__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
prodatalab__ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
rusty has joined #bitcoin-wizards
nwilcox has joined #bitcoin-wizards
<dgenr8>
ssh
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
<lmatteis>
dgenr8@192.184.9.104's password:
<lmatteis>
;)
<dgenr8>
dear god
<dgenr8>
you just passed passive hacking 101
mjerr has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
nwilcox has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
nwilcox has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
p15x has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
nwilcox has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
nwilcox has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
paveljanik has quit [Quit: Leaving]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
Emcy has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
fkhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
dc17523be3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
dc17523be3 has joined #bitcoin-wizards
nwilcox has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
snthsnth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
AlphaTech has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
blazes816 has joined #bitcoin-wizards
RH311ish has joined #bitcoin-wizards
nwilcox has joined #bitcoin-wizards
tcrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
Guest45276 is now known as maaku
fkhan has joined #bitcoin-wizards
King_Rex has joined #bitcoin-wizards
ASTP001 has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
nwilcox has quit [Quit: leaving]
nessence has joined #bitcoin-wizards
GAit has joined #bitcoin-wizards
nwilcox has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
rusty has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
DougieBot5000_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
ozanyurt has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
DougieBot5000 has quit [Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))]
DougieBot5000_ is now known as DougieBot5000
AlphaTech has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
jonasschnelli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
Guyver2 has quit [Quit: :)]
AlphaTech has joined #bitcoin-wizards
tcrypt has joined #bitcoin-wizards
jonasschnelli has joined #bitcoin-wizards
blazes816 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
ThomasV has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
shen_noe has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
shen_noe has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
DougieBot5000 has quit [Quit: Leaving]
lnovy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
lnovy has joined #bitcoin-wizards
xtalmath1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
King_Rex has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
King_Rex has joined #bitcoin-wizards
spinza has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
maraoz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
bedeho has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
GAit has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
nessence has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
hearn_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
GAit has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
hearn has joined #bitcoin-wizards
hearn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
King_Rex has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Quanttek has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
Burrito has joined #bitcoin-wizards
ryan-c has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
forrestv has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
ryan-c has joined #bitcoin-wizards
snthsnth has joined #bitcoin-wizards
Adlai has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
forrestv has joined #bitcoin-wizards
sparetire_ has quit [Quit: sparetire_]
ryan-c has quit [Excess Flood]
ryan-c has joined #bitcoin-wizards
DougieBot5000 has joined #bitcoin-wizards
bildramer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
tromp has joined #bitcoin-wizards
snthsnth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
bildramer has joined #bitcoin-wizards
bildramer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
Adlai has joined #bitcoin-wizards
AnoAnon has joined #bitcoin-wizards
AnoAnon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]