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<amiller> hey, warren, are you expecting lots of academic researcher types to show up?
<warren> amiller: yes
<amiller> i think that's an awesome goal and the resaerch presentation stipend seems pretty cool, but i wonder how anyone is going to know about it, the first one was sort of short notice and i can't tell if it went out to any relevant channels
<amiller> i'm concerned that mit-dci isn't doing much to reach out to interested academic groups
<warren> yes
<warren> sorry on a call now, will be back soon
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<warren> amiller: Jeremy Rubin at MIT is working extremely hard on outreach, but he's only one guy. It's positive that he at least got funding.
<warren> amiller: Pindar Wong (chair of the workshop planning committee) got Harvard, HKUST and Princeton onboard in some capacity, details coming soon.
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<Luke-Jr> belcher: altcoins are off-topic on the wiki; although their is a page for block size discussions that aims to be neutral
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<belcher> ok, so this would have to be off that wiki since i imagined it to be non-neutral point of view
<belcher> maybe a github page
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<Luke-Jr> belcher: what's the value in something explicitly non-neutral?
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<belcher> Luke-Jr to convince, persuade, educate
<belcher> im thinking of those "faq" type sites that were on the internet in the 90s
<Luke-Jr> neutral resources can do that…
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<Luke-Jr> in any case, I see no reason the wiki can't have another page
<belcher> what do you mean? i thought the problem was it would be off-topic
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<maaku> amiller: is there a financial crypto list? has the workshop been advertised there?
<amiller> maaku, no but you should email the organizers, i bet they would know some places to forward it
<maaku> warren: ^^
<maaku> also may be on topic for the cypherpunks list
<amiller> warren, who did you talk to at princeton? there is a bitcoin-research mailing list i think arvind runs that doesn't get a lot of traffic
<warren> amiller: we need help from folks like you to help spread the word, you have entirely different networks than me
<warren> amiller: btw, are you coming? presenting?
<amiller> i haven't worked out if i can yet, it's the last week of my internship
<amiller> i have stuff i want to present though for sure
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<warren> amiller: please submit the subsidy@ application (on the website) soon if you want your travel/hotel covered
<maaku> amiller: your "research perspectives and challenges" paper covers a lot of bases
<amiller> i want to present on simulators https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/469 and measurement http://cs.umd.edu/projects/coinscope/ as its newish and hopefully can be helpful starting points to support debates
<amiller> but i'm still waiting to find out if i can go
<amiller> regardless i'll try to help get the workshop publicised wherever i can find out
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<maaku> simulators and measurements are even better!
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<phantomcircuit> amiller, actual measured time to complete validation from genesis block (no checkpoints)
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<petertodd> amiller: any results on block propagation?
<petertodd> amiller: also, I'll be at the scaling bitcoin workshop
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<jtimon> BlueMatt: bitcoin.ninja has lighthouse but not lightning?
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<BlueMatt> jtimon: hmm, indeed it does: https://github.com/TheBlueMatt/bitcoinninja
<kanzure> errors of omission are the hardest to catch
<kanzure> might as well update the sidechains link to point to elementsproject repositories
<kanzure> (in addition to the paper)
<kanzure> also libsnark stuff
<kanzure> or libsecp256k1 stuff
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