whyrusleeping changed the topic of #ipfs to: Release Candidate 2 of go-ipfs v0.4.3 has been released, available at https://dist.ipfs.io -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0 -- Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh
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<konubinix> Mateon1: I did not know. I will try the last version. Thanks
<konubinix> whyrusleeping: Thank you for the information.
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<konubinix> Ok, the master branch builds correctly with go1.7. Thank you guys
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<jakobvarmose> I tried to pin an object that is not in the merkledag format, but I get an error. Is this the expected behavior?
<jakobvarmose> If you want to test: ipfs pin add -r=false QmdqupJt5E4hMUxvLRNpL94AqhqFYwsUrSrgnEw4CXwuYt
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<JesseW> jakobvarmose: I get the same, yes
<JesseW> I can load it with `ipfs block get` but not `ipfs object get` or `ipfs get`
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<jakobvarmose> okay
<JesseW> I can't speak to whether it's intentional or not
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<tmg> can someone give me some spoilers so I don't have to read all the datastore code: what actually get stored in the leveldb?---is it just providers & ipns records?
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<daviddias> tmg: that + the pinset roothash
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: just merged and released changelog generation in aegir: https://github.com/dignifiedquire/aegir/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-aegir-7.0.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6XvK
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/greenkeeper-aegir-7.0.0 e15838e greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update aegir to version 7.0.0...
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<oed> kit smsa om matanmälan imorgon eller sent idag
<oed> [11:39]
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: sweet! :D
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: getting js-ipfs-api smaller will be tricky though
<dignifiedquire> daviddias oh boy, we need to split up ipfs-merkle-dag, js-ipfs-api include the full dag-service, which links to web-crypto, which adds lots of dependencies
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<haad> ...
<daviddias> btw dignifiedquire, when you update aegir, you don't have to tell me, greenkeeper makes sure to tell me that at least 50 times xD
<dignifiedquire> :D
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: yeah, like block and block-service
<haad> ...if only we had a thin wrapper over the http api for js-ipfs-api ;)
<dignifiedquire> if only making http requests would be simple
<daviddias> haad: I welcome you to hack on the js-ipfs-api and get the http-api to response nicely
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<daviddias> it is actually quite a feat to make it all work
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<daviddias> https://github.com/ipfs/http-api-spec/issues/116 this is not by chance :)
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: so turns out the splitting is not the big issue, webcrypto is a gigantic package, that we bring in only to do sha256 hashes
<haad> looking at that issue, I can't tell what the technical problems are (eg. related to what dignifiedquire said about http request)
<daviddias> weren't we using libp2p-crypto with node-forge all the things for the hash
<dignifiedquire> not in js-ipfs-api which uses merkl-dag which in turn uses multihashing which uses webcrypto
<dignifiedquire> which is not modular at all
<dignifiedquire> we really need dead code elimination :(
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: https://github.com/multiformats/js-multihashing/blob/master/src/index.js#L4 < this is bringing in a gigantic set of crypto things, only to do sha256 in about 100% of our uses cases in js-ipfs-api
<dignifiedquire> we can use https://github.com/crypto-browserify/sha.js which is the exact same thing browserify-crypto uses
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<dignifiedquire> but that's just patching wounds, instead of solving the actual issue
<dignifiedquire> we need a modular crypto package
<dignifiedquire> plus proper module analysis
<daviddias> Wanna bring that up for next Monday as an action item?
<dignifiedquire> I'm not around on Monday
<daviddias> We also shouldn't spend countless work hours in getting a (non audited) crypto library to sabe some space
<daviddias> right
<dignifiedquire> correct
<dignifiedquire> but is there an audited crypto library in js?
<daviddias> it is important to understand and know where to optimize
<daviddias> AFAIK no
<dignifiedquire> is webcrypto audited? it probably is?
<dignifiedquire> I'm guessing it's the closest thing to something audited in the browser atm
<daviddias> battle tested at least
<daviddias> same goes for node.js crypto module
<dignifiedquire> node-forge is partially audited: https://github.com/digitalbazaar/forge/issues/103
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<dignifiedquire> it's used for voting clients
<dignifiedquire> well not a real audit though
<dignifiedquire> haha found your issue: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/2833
<daviddias> :)
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: were all the stress tests passing from interface-stream-muxer before in spdy?
<daviddias> yes
<daviddias> in spdy, always
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<dignifiedquire> hmm
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<dignifiedquire> spdy keeps on giving
<daviddias> :(
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: when you have a second, I would appreciate if you could take a look at spdy, in combination with websockets and the new interface-stream-muxer. I'm pretty clueless as to why things are failing atm :/
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<daviddias> ok, adding to my list then :)
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<dignifiedquire> thank you <3
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<daviddias> this is related to the connection -> https://github.com/libp2p/interface-connection/pull/10/files#r75472829
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<dignifiedquire> quick call to clarify?
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<daviddias> sure
<daviddias> https://talky.io/beneath-a-rough-dust dignifiedquire
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<rendar> well, if ipfs has objects like git (blob, tree etc) and in a tree object there is a list of {hash, file_name, permissions} like git, i will have N tree objects poinitng the same hash for the same file, but if i want to change the *name* of the file, how ipfs can keep track of that? i mean, i cannot traverse *all* the tree objects containing the file name..
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: whoo first two tests for the unxifs exporter are passing
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: sweet
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<rendar> anyone?
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<jakobvarmose> rendar, You will need to change each one if you want to change its name everywhere it's referenced. What are you trying to accomplish?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6Xyw
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 7397dd3 Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #3035 from ipfs/docs/branch-naming...
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<jakobvarmose> I created a simple program to store encrypted files on IPFS: https://github.com/jakobvarmose/intercrypt Please let me know what you think
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<nodejs> im trying to test this on my vps, and all the IP is set localhost:8080
<nodejs> how to access it on outside ?
<nodejs> the /ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/5001 set for 127.0.0.1 cant access this on my vps
<jakobvarmose> nodejs, Port 5001 should not be open to the internet. You could use an ssh tunnel:
<jakobvarmose> ssh <ip-address-of-your-vps> -N -L 5001:127.0.0.1:5001 &
<nodejs> how can i access Gateway (readonly) server listening on /ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/8080
<nodejs> i want to add video file and test streaming
<jakobvarmose> nodejs, If you want to open it up the gateway to the internet change "/ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/8080" to "/ip4/0.0.0.0/tcp/8080" in the $HOME/.ipfs/config file
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<nodejs> yes i just found that page,
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<flyingzumwalt_> I heard a rumor that google will be shutting down google groups next year. I wonder if any decentralized alternatives will be mature enough by then to take on all the orgs that currently use google groups to coordinate/communicate.
<richardlitt> What's a good tool for making animated screencaptured gifs?
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<nodejs> is it normal to take long to add 1.5gb video
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<nodejs> is there any progress bar for showing how far hashing has be done ?
<nodejs> its been 5 mints now
<nodejs> ops i found it :D
<nodejs> why the -q not show progress ?
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<nodejs> does ipfs have like a ping this address to check if file path is still alive ?
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<richardlitt> nodejs: would be good to document that you want a progress bar: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/1597
<nodejs> i found it, :D
<nodejs> just had to remove -q
<nodejs> anybody wanna test streaming 1.4gb mp4 QmY4EN5yvZmQyvW2mLbJpU1PNJwb1z1aXB83h1a69bs2wn
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<nodejs> if i run, ipfs on another vps, and use that server for streaming, does it download the video there also ?
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<daviddias> whyrusleeping: issues day? :D
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<nodejs> server shutdown , sorry bye
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<konubinix> Hi
<konubinix> I am not sure I understand correctly the NAT traversal aspect of ipfs
<konubinix> I have an ipfs daemon running on my local network, but it looks like I cannot connect to it from outside the network
<konubinix> I guess that was the point of NAT traversal, isn't it?
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<konubinix> The node id is QmTTeYr9DPiWztz3wHer1nKC6gJJUkEVeMn33UXrXLrpVw
<konubinix> I just created a file of 1M random bytes: QmbD3fY11ADrKMRXrv7xgwrrnyzWECUfC4S4iY3wf5ZJM6
<konubinix> Can anyone here get it ?
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid deleted greenkeeper-aegir-7.0.0 at e15838e: https://git.io/v61OZ
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid closed pull request #426: Update ipfs-api to version 7.0.0
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<jakobvarmose> konubinix, Yes, but your file is only 20 bytes long
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<konubinix> jakobvarmose: My fault, I made a mistake in my dd command
<konubinix> jakobvarmose: Could you please try again with QmX9XY8Z66UtnukFKqaNKhTWN1wJuKAf23hXtcfaejQaQK
<konubinix> jakobvarmose: May be I made the first one available through a public node somehow while testing
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<konubinix> By the way, the new file is much closer to 1MB :-)
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<jakobvarmose> konubinix, No, I can't get this one
<konubinix> jakobvarmose: But thank you for trying :-)
<jakobvarmose> np
<konubinix> There is something wrong in my understanding of NAT traversal I think
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<jakobvarmose> konubinix, I also had some problems with transferring files from my local computer (behind NAT) to my vps. But if I first transferred a small file in the other direction they would find eachother and it would work
<jakobvarmose> So if you download this file QmcnkDJj8kKrecq9xDHvDokfUSLV6Uue8CeypAkKdb3vqb from my vps, I could probably get your file afterwards
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<konubinix> jakobvarmose: I just got the file
<konubinix> jakobvarmose: Can you try again ?
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<jakobvarmose> konubinix, I could get it even from my local computer now. But I'm not sure if this was what solved it
<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #468: Update react-addons-test-utils to version 15.3.1
<konubinix> jakobvarmose: What makes you say so?
<konubinix> jakobvarmose: Thank you for your test :-)
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<jakobvarmose> konubinix, Because I'm confused why I suddenly could get it from my local computer behind NAT now. I just don't see why establishing a connection between you computer and my VPS would help with this
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #469: Update react-dom to version 15.3.1
<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: wow, nice cleanup
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<konubinix> jakobvarmose: That's weird indeed. Anyway, my use case is to connect two computers behind NAT, so the trick of first getting a file would not work
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<pjz> anyone have any idea how much bandwidth pinning takes up?
<pjz> It has to take up some, since it announces to the DHT or whatever
<pjz> so I guess I'm looking for something like how many kbps per kilopin or something
<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #470: Update react to version 15.3.1
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created feat/disable-cat-gc (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v61Ef
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/disable-cat-gc 82ffa86 Jeromy: ipfs/cat: disable auto-gc check...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #3100: ipfs/cat: disable auto-gc check (master...feat/disable-cat-gc) https://git.io/v61EL
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<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: thanks :)
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<whyrusleeping> daviddias: yeap, issues day
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<whyrusleeping> got it below 500, gonna try for 450 tomorrow
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/disable-cat-gc from 82ffa86 to 115bee5: https://git.io/v61uL
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/disable-cat-gc 115bee5 Jeromy: ipfs/cat: disable auto-gc check...
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<pjz> whyrusleeping: any WAGs what kbps/kpin is?
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<mikeal> quick WebRTC question: are there cases when some peers can be initiators but not receivers or vice versa?
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<whyrusleeping> pjz: too much :(
<whyrusleeping> we're currently prioritizing making that bit better
<whyrusleeping> it turns out dhts are expensive
<pjz> whyrusleeping: is it an ipfs-specific dht or one of the standard ones?
<whyrusleeping> we have our own dht, its based on kademlia like mainline is
<pjz> whyrusleeping: okay. Is there an open issue for 'reduce dht bandwidth' ?
<whyrusleeping> heh, yes
<whyrusleeping> one sec
<pjz> whyrusleeping: which one of those?
<pjz> wow, and 7GB isn't that much
<whyrusleeping> this one is the latest activity: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/2828
<dignifiedquire> mikeal: what exactly do you mean? init of the raw webrtc connection, or of an ipfs connection in general?
<mikeal> webrtc in general, but it matters for libp2p and others
<dignifiedquire> usually we try to make it possible that anyone can dial to anyone, there is of course the limitation on websocket connections, that you have to dial from the browser out
<dignifiedquire> you could disable accepting connections from peers on the libp2p swarm level
<mikeal> i'm writing a swarm actually
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<mikeal> and i'm just trying to figure out if i algorithimically say "given two nodes one should be the initiator in the swarm"
<mikeal> that that will be alright
<dignifiedquire> which modules are you interfacing with atm?
<mikeal> SimplePeer directly
<dignifiedquire> right, so in libp2p there is the distinction between a dialer and a listener, to describe this asymmetry that someone has to start establishing the connection/protcol
<dignifiedquire> but because usually everyone uses the same code all nodes end up with the code for dialing and listening
<dignifiedquire> you could of course change that to either use different code on either side or guard it with a config
<dignifiedquire> (not sure I'm answering the right question :/)
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed fix/fuse/osx-cfg-check from e78af3e to 11db8f4: https://git.io/v61VH
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/fuse/osx-cfg-check 11db8f4 Jeromy: fuse: make osxfuse check config check more permissive...
<mikeal> dignifiedquire: ya, so my problem is that once a node is connected to a "swarm" it finds out about all the other nodes in the network and also tells the other nodes about it
<mikeal> so everyone tries to connect to that node, and that node tries to connect to it
<mikeal> sorry, that node tries to connect to all of them
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<dignifiedquire> right, and you don't want that to happen? or do you want this to happen and make sure it is efficient?
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<daviddias> mikeal: there is where stream multiplexing and libp2p-swarm comes into play
<daviddias> idealy you just need a conn, but since it is impossible (without a strong mediator) to tell if someone is dialing to you
<daviddias> you just let it pass
<daviddias> if two conns are established
<daviddias> you can select one to be the one that you use to open new streams
<dignifiedquire> a wild david appears :)
<daviddias> and let the other peer phase out the other one
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: :)
<daviddias> check https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-swarm the name could be better (https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-swarm/issues/40) swarm can be misunderstood, but it is the module that does the madness of checking which transport to dial
<daviddias> and keep a muxedConn pool
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<daviddias> + opening new streams on a given protocol, reusing the underlying connection, saving time from opening new conns
<daviddias> which are quite expensive if you have to do hole punch or worse: relay
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: on a different note can you remind me tomorrow to write sth up for you about the module+dependency drama
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: the big dist case?
<dignifiedquire> yeah
<daviddias> sure, thank you for getting a really informed opinion on that discussion :)
<dignifiedquire> I like optimizing things :)
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #3100: ipfs/cat: disable auto-gc check (master...feat/disable-cat-gc) https://git.io/v61EL
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created feat/reprovide-config (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v615p
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/reprovide-config 8a2b545 Jeromy: reprovider: add config option to set reprovide interval...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #3101: reprovider: add config option to set reprovide interval (master...feat/reprovide-config) https://git.io/v61dq
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/reprovide-config from 8a2b545 to ad488c6: https://git.io/v61ds
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/reprovide-config ad488c6 Jeromy: reprovider: add config option to set reprovide interval...
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