<kevina>
Thanks. The help text does not say that arguments is a package name...
<whyrusleeping>
yeah... i need to work on that
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<whyrusleeping>
for now, gx-go --help == "hey whyrusleeping..."
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<ipfsbot>
[webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #463: Update d3 to version 4.2.2
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<JesseW>
I'm trying to make sense of gx-go rewrite, and I think I'm missing something
<kevina>
JesseW: what is your question?
<JesseW>
kevina: do I need to run something else before running gx-go rewrite?
<JesseW>
Just running it alone gives me errors like: loading dep "utp" of "go-multiaddr-net": failed to find package: open /home/jesse/gopath/src/gx/ipfs/QmaxuoSyFFzKgrujaburn4j3MQWFQu8ASqVSwrMER6Mk9L: no such file or directory
<whyrusleeping>
JesseW:q
<JesseW>
should I run gx-go import first?
<whyrusleeping>
gx install first
<JesseW>
gx install go-multiaddr-net, or?
<whyrusleeping>
just gx install
<JesseW>
ok, that does seem to work, yes
<JesseW>
it seems to miss subpackages, like github.com/jbenet/go-multiaddr-net/utp
<JesseW>
rewrite does, I mean
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<JesseW>
what's up with unforgiven512?
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<JesseW>
Hm, I noticed that godoc.org does not seem to notice gx-style import paths. Where would be the relevant place to open an issue for that?
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<JesseW>
Hm. It looks like some of the external deps for go-ipfs that are being distributed via ipfs aren't actually in git anywhere. Specifically, http://github.com/steakknife/hamming has a dep of /ipfs/QmeWQMDa5dSdP4n8WDeoY5z8L2EKVqF4ZvK4VEHsLqXsGu and the package.json file doesn't seem to be in any git repo I can find.
<JesseW>
This is probably not a problem, but it's interesting.
<JesseW>
It looks like the only way to inspect the current contents of a local daemon's cache is with `ipfs refs local` which also only prints out the multihashes
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<JesseW>
Here's a possible script to mess with that:
<JesseW>
for foo in $(ipfs refs local); do if ipfs object stat $foo | grep -q 'NumLinks: 1$' ; then ipfs refs --format '<linkname> (<src> -> <dst>)' $foo; fi; done
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<haad>
with chunking, you can "vendor" 3rd party libs to their own output files
<daviddias>
ah
<daviddias>
to make the import request as it needs
<daviddias>
probably super useful if being serve behind http2
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<haad>
I was thinking it'd be good to have ipfs as a separate file (as well as other 3rd party modules) because they don't change often --> faster webpack build time
<haad>
what I ended up using was to make webpack just copy the ipfs/dist/index.js and I load it in the html file (instead of requiring it in the app code)
<daviddias>
yeah, having to recompile a whole dep that doesn't change
<daviddias>
doesn't webpack have caching though?
<haad>
ish
<daviddias>
?
<haad>
it doesn't work for me atm, dunno why haven't looked into it
<haad>
not sure if webpack itself even has it, or if it comes from webpack dev-server I'm using
<haad>
also, we need to find a better way for: require('exports?Ipfs!ipfs/dist/index.js')
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<daviddias>
require('ipfs')
<haad>
daviddias: was something changed re. that?
<haad>
because require('ipfs') doesn't work with webpack
<daviddias>
it should work
<daviddias>
it just means that your webpack config is not all set up
<daviddias>
not that we have to inject things like node-forge in
<haad>
that's the thing, either you replicate the webpack build settings from js-ipfs, or you do that export thingy
<daviddias>
yep
<daviddias>
until node-forge is commonjs modules
<haad>
copying the webpack settings is not really a solution either :/
<daviddias>
well, there are things
<haad>
that's the only module preventing us doing that?
<daviddias>
that are now accepted
<daviddias>
like brfs
<daviddias>
it will never get better than you having to specify that transformation
<haad>
yeah, making a separate ipfs-browser version might be an option
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: would love some aegir wisdomn in order to make this " "test": "node --max_old_space_size=4096 node_modules/.bin/gulp test"," work for release
<haad>
I don't think what we have now is sustainable in the long run, requires a lot of config and knowledge from devs jumping into ipfs for the first time
<daviddias>
haad: wanna open a issue with that idea an others? getting feedback form consumers of js-ipfs is super important
<daviddias>
I'm all in for reducing the number of steps for devs to use IPFS
<haad>
I'll add it to my todo list, can't do it right now
<haad>
daviddias: prolly not, can do that tomorrow morning, first thing
<daviddias>
thank you :)
<daviddias>
sounds good
<jakobvarmose>
I want to build a directory structure programmatically (using go-ipfs), but I can't figure out how to do it. Should I use the unixfs package?
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu pushed 1 new commit to feat/test-cover-blocks: https://git.io/v6VKk
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/test-cover-blocks 594c946 Jakub Sztandera: docs: decapitalize error message in blocks.go...
<libman>
I know most people want to stick their heads in the sand and pretend there's no politics in free software, but there is. IPFS itself is great, but parts of its ecosystem are becoming inaccessible from my perspective.
<libman>
Restrictive licenses and codes of conduct do a lot of harm. Most people don't speak out against them (and I'm probably about to be called a "troll" and banned for doing so).
<libman>
IPFS is something that right-libertarians like esr and myself would have great interest in, and its permissive license alone is a reason to choose it over some of the alternatives.
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<noffle>
libman: do you have specific concerns?
<ashark_>
libman: Meh. Codes of Conduct are kinda wanky, but so are lots of things. No big deal.
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* ansuz
gets popcorn
<libman>
Most of my concerns are more philosophical than specific. Injection of restrictive licenses (see copyfree.org for definition) in an otherwise free ecosystem (i.e. Go, IPFS) is my highest concern.
<ansuz>
vague libertarian angst is my favourite angst
<noffle>
libman: I can understand a desire to have a project you otherwise have faith in to adopt philosophies more in line with your personal ones. That said, direct head-on confrontation with an insistence of change tends to not be effective.
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<libman>
ansuz: great quote. :)
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<noffle>
One question to ask yourself that may help is, "How can I make meaningful contributions to this project in a way that also exemplars my own values and beliefs, that may influence and show others the worth of my feelings?"
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<noffle>
What I'm saying is, consider making contributions to the project to give yourself credibility. It's hard to have a "random" show up and launch into criticism immediately.
<libman>
I know, I know. I don't really expect anything to change. Just giving my two cents as an IPFS user who has never contributed.
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: back on the repo/block API interfaces
<daviddias>
shall we bikeshed that a little bit?
<noffle>
libman: If you aren't willing to put in the effort the rest of the folks here are, then it may not be a worthwhile effort to balk here, both in terms of use of your time, and most certainly in terms of ours.
<libman>
I'm trying to build a Unix distro / development stack / personal career around specific values, and that includes avoiding restrictive licensing.
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: sorry still out, will be only available later tonight but happy to do shed all the bikes the
<libman>
So IPFS can be a very central part of this, but BigChainDB cannot.
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: sounds good, I'll be around too then :)
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted fix-test_fsh at 2489dfe: https://git.io/v6Vy3
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted feat/test-cover-blocks-util at 21cbb90: https://git.io/v6VyG
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v6VyZ
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/master e3a42d9 Kevin Simper: Update dns help with a correct domain name...
<dignifiedquire>
whyrusleeping: so will 0.4.3 be built wit go 1.7?
<whyrusleeping>
dignifiedquire: yes
<dignifiedquire>
nice
<whyrusleeping>
yeeeeeep
<dignifiedquire>
that's what I love about compiled languages, new version? lets use it.. in js land you have to take care of all the 500 envs you are trying to execute in
<dignifiedquire>
I should just compile everything down to asm.js and use all the language features I want
<Mateon1>
dignifiedquire: Well, Babel exists
<Mateon1>
As well as 10 other transpilers
<libman>
JS definitely sucks, and it sucks harder the more it is used.
<Mateon1>
I love JS, but I think that's only because I babbled around in the innards of v8
<dignifiedquire>
Mateon1: transpilers help a lot, but it's more a general acceptance thing. if my project requirea being transpiled some people will start complaining they can't just run it through node myscript.js
<Mateon1>
Anyway, I just fixed the colors on windows, however I don't know Go, my code is terrible, and I have no idea how to make it only run on Windows and not do something terrible if it doesn't work. Also, I can't test it on Vista, 7 & 8.
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<Mateon1>
dignifiedquire: Well, I dislike Node, a lot. I mostly deal with browserside JS
<Kubuxu>
For me the V8 and node is awesome from the engineering standpoint, I dislike JS :p
<Kubuxu>
Fortunately ScalaJS came to the rescue.
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<Mateon1>
I can't wait for WebAssembly as a backend for other languages
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<dignifiedquire>
yeah WebAssembly is nice
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] RichardLitt pushed 1 new commit to doc/manual-building: https://git.io/v6Vj0
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/doc/manual-building 4f4f57e Richard Littauer: Small edits...
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<Kubuxu>
WebAssembly is nice, but it creates full split off the JS. This means no interop which is very beneficial in many cases.
<Kubuxu>
Like you can use most JS libs (react, angular, jQ) in ScalaJS with minimal wrappers (mostly type hints), this won't be the case with WebAssembly
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<dignifiedquire>
haad: something like this could solve our webpack issues for external users https://github.com/easy-webpack/core if we just create a sharable ipfs-webpack config
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<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: but then everyone has to use Webpack
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[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created feat/temp-err-retries (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6wLB
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go-ipfs/feat/temp-err-retries dcab579 Jeromy: datastore: blockstore should retry when it encounters temp errors...
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: not more than now, this would just be an additional service to make it easier when using webpack
<daviddias>
I believe that what haad was proposing is to enable anyone to do require('ipfs') and use their own bundler if needed
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #3091: datastore: blockstore should retry when it encounters temp errors (master...feat/temp-err-retries) https://git.io/v6wtn
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/temp-err-retries from dcab579 to 8813008: https://git.io/v6wt5
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/temp-err-retries 8813008 Jeromy: datastore: blockstore should retry when it encounters temp errors...
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: and how should that be possible?
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: how was the infra call?
<daviddias>
Wednesday
<daviddias>
Only
<dignifiedquire>
ah cool I didn't miss it
<daviddias>
And it would be possible if we ship builds as modules
<daviddias>
Like ipfs.browser
<dignifiedquire>
you mean like lodash.get ?
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: by the way I totally forgot about js-ipfs-api needing to be ported to pull-streams as js-ipfs uses it
<daviddias>
Only the cli
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<daviddias>
But yeah
<daviddias>
Actually, all of those changes have to be pushed to the interface first
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<dignifiedquire>
I hear you want to volunteer for that :D
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: by the way moving to pull-streams will reduce the bundle size of js-ipfs, currently we include 12 different versions of readable-stream because the different dependencies use different versions
<dignifiedquire>
which is roughly 50k per version
<dignifiedquire>
(non minified
<daviddias>
I'm gonna do CR and the pull-streams of webrtc star tomorrow for sure
<dignifiedquire>
:)
<daviddias>
I'm tired of specs and tests everywhere
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<daviddias>
need to look to something new tomorrow :)
<dignifiedquire>
I will do unixfs {ex|im}porters tomorrow
<dignifiedquire>
:)
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<dignifiedquire>
so what about that bikes shed?
<daviddias>
for block?
<daviddias>
finishing Swarm update here
<daviddias>
will ping you back ina bit
<dignifiedquire>
okay, I might fall asleep, so if I don't answer anymore ping me in the morning :D
<daviddias>
sounds good :)
<daviddias>
go rest!
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<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: if you are at it: can you add stripping of `https://` in the JS?
<whyrusleeping>
Kubuxu: eh?
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: yes sir
<whyrusleeping>
oh, so you can paste in a url you just copied from the address bar?
<dignifiedquire>
Kubuxu: :D that read strange, let's strip https everywhere
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<Leer10[m]>
How would I reconfigure an ipfs instance so I can expose it to the web as a public gateway?
<Leer10[m]>
I like to use ipfs to easily share files, but I don't want to put more stress on the ipfs.io gateway
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<whyrusleeping>
Leer10[m]: the way we do it is with an nginx proxy
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<whyrusleeping>
huh, i've had no bootstrap peers on my desktops ipfs config for a long time
<whyrusleeping>
never noticed, its apparently just been bootstrapping via mdns and the other nodes on my LAN
<whyrusleeping>
i love when shit works
<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs] Mithgol opened pull request #421: update the `script` tag in an example provided by `README.md` (master...readme-browser-script) https://git.io/v6w71
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[js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-yargs-5.0.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6wFV
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js-ipfs/greenkeeper-yargs-5.0.0 fd5b2df greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update yargs to version 5.0.0...
<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #422: Update yargs to version 5.0.0
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[go-ipfs] kevina pushed 2 new commits to kevina/block-rm: https://git.io/v6wbn
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/kevina/block-rm bf7c5b3 Kevin Atkinson: Fix bug in arccache.DeleteBlock() method....
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/kevina/block-rm c278b2c Kevin Atkinson: Add test that removes a combination of pinned, valid, and non-existent blocks...
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] kevina force-pushed kevina/block-rm from c278b2c to 9ae24c3: https://git.io/vK40o
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go-ipfs/kevina/block-rm 9ae24c3 Kevin Atkinson: Add test that removes a combination of pinned, valid, and invalid blocks....