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<ckwaldon1>
Hey all, did go-ipfs v0.4.3rc2 get taken off of the dist.ipfs.io website?
<ckwaldon1>
Aha. Stupid me. I didn't realize there was an rc3. Maybe someone should update the IRC header to reflect that?
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<codehero>
ckwaldon: the rc3 isn't on dist.ipfs.io either though
<codehero>
and i'm pretty sure rc2 was on there
<codehero>
so i think there's something wrong
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<Mateon1>
A124: Sorry got responding so late. My BW stats are 47 gigabytes in/24 gigabytes out, with bitswap using 20/8.8 GB of DL/UL; I will try recompiling, but I don't have Go 1.7, I'm on Windows and I have 1.6.3
<Mateon1>
A124: Regarding repo size, I'm waiting for 'repo stat' to complete, and it's taking forever
<Mateon1>
Okay, My IPFS folder itself has 115588 files and is 21.8 GB in size, while ipfs repo stat reports 115048 with 23 434 million bytes
<codehero>
damn. that's quite a lot
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[go-ipfs] kevina force-pushed kevina/block-rm from d7940c8 to 603fc65: https://git.io/vK40o
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go-ipfs/kevina/block-rm 8ab23de Kevin Atkinson: "block rm": use channel instead of pipe / don't abort on non-fatal error...
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<LumberTech>
codehero, ckwaldon rc3 is on dist.ipfs.io. You just have to click on "All Versions" to see it.
<codehero>
ohh okay
<codehero>
thanks
<LumberTech>
Not sure if it's supposed to be that way. rc2 used to be the default download.
<codehero>
yeah, maybe they just want the stable version to be the default
<codehero>
which makes sense
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<Mateon1>
Okay, I just had the locking problem again
<Mateon1>
My daemon wouldn't cleanly shutdown after 2 mins after the first ^C, and after interrupting it the second time, it obviously left a lock in invalid state.
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<Mateon1>
Now, the lock contains JSON describing the "OwnerPID", and even though the pid didn't exist, ipfs refused to launch
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<Mateon1>
How about using native Windows locks? They don't have this issue.
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[go-ipfs] kevina force-pushed kevina/block-rm from 603fc65 to 1f158c6: https://git.io/vK40o
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<Mateon1>
Okay, regarding the performance issue - currently, the daemon is using 0.1% CPU, after compiling the latest master with Go 1.7
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<Mateon1>
But the bitswap wantlist was cleared
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<opal>
[AMSG] JOIN IRC.OFTC.NET #LINODE FOR BIGMATIX LIVE
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<vbsd>
Hello. Let's say, I want to use ipfs as a way to share personal files with a group of friends. There are two features that I would need for: 1. Ability to whitelist some ipfs nodes to allow them download anything from me, regardless of our download/upload ratios. 2. Ability to add files that are visible only to some people.
<vbsd>
Insofar as I know, neither of these features are implemented, right?
<vbsd>
Are there any plans to add them in the future?
<yangwao>
you can encrypt files and share with your friends only keys and address, but thats diy + trust in crypto
<vbsd>
Sure, that's what I've been doing, but I'm interested in knowing whether there are any plans to make IPFS more suitable for personal synchronization, file sharing, etc. I was thinking of trying to work on something like that and was wondering if this should be a strictly personal project, or perhaps something like that might be merged.
<Kubuxu>
vbsd: there are, after we are done with IPLD (plan is for late September), we plan to implement keystore (this might be earlier), keychain (PKI on IPLD) and encryption transformations.
<vbsd>
Kubuxu: Good to know, thanks.
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<daviddias>
I've added the agendas for the js-ipfs and libp2p calls today. If there is something you would like to see discussed and it is not there, please add it on the etherpad https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/141#issuecomment-239724953
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[js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6gnk
<ipfsbot>
js-ipfs/master 7dcff81 David Dias: update ROADMAP
<daviddias>
add everything you want to bring up (if not there already), if we need more time to sync up, then we can do some extra after the calls :)
<dignifiedquire>
okay can do that as well
<dignifiedquire>
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[js-ipfs] diasdavid created fix/init (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6gc6
<ipfsbot>
js-ipfs/fix/init ca700cc David Dias: fix(repo): init does not break if no opts are passed. Fixes #349
<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs] diasdavid opened pull request #416: fix(repo): init does not break if no opts are passed. Fixes #349 (master...fix/init) https://git.io/v6gcX
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[js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6gCi
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js-ipfs/master bd842f9 David Dias: Merge pull request #416 from ipfs/fix/init...
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[go-ipfs] Kubuxu created feat/test-cover-blocks-set (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6gC9
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/test-cover-blocks-set 94a70a1 Jakub Sztandera: test: 100% coverage on blocks/set...
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu opened pull request #3084: test: 100% coverage on blocks/set (master...feat/test-cover-blocks-set) https://git.io/v6gWW
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[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feat/test-cover-blocks-set from 94a70a1 to 9437b3a: https://git.io/v6gW1
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[go-ipfs] chriscool created fix-test_fsh (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v6gWF
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[go-ipfs] kevinsimper opened pull request #3087: Update dns help with a correct domain name (master...patch-1) https://git.io/v6gu0
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<ayy>
How can IPFS save millions in bandwidth? When you upload a file on IPFS, does it just get hosted by other nodes? Is that basically a free CDN then?
<Kubuxu>
ayy: no, when you add file it is just on your machine, but when somebody accesses it they then rehost it.
<Kubuxu>
this means that reverse-scaling kicks in, the more users of your data the less request to the original server.
<balboah>
is there a technical spec somewhere? I found specs but not a ipns section. ipns == iprs?
<balboah>
is name resolutions a p2p message query? who stores the record?
<Kubuxu>
iprs is to be improved reimplemntation of ipns, there isn't really any technical spec of ipns, from technical point: you create message, sign it, and store it in DHT that maps 'hash of pub key' -> 'message signed with pub key'
<balboah>
ah ok. So whenever someone resolves it, they query the p2p network and the origin responds with a signed message that the other peers caches for some time?
<M-kalmi>
No, it's not the origin who responds.
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<Kubuxu>
When you publish IPNS entry you push it to 20 other nodes in you k-bucket
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<balboah>
thanks, I’ll just read up a bit on the go implementation and try to understand it
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: around?
<daviddias>
yep
<dignifiedquire>
time for a quick call about repo interface?
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire is it urgent? Can it be async? Trying to avoid having more meetings than needed (specially in a Monday)
<dignifiedquire>
I'm working on it right now and just trying to figure out which way to go
<daviddias>
ok
<dignifiedquire>
it can be async, but I will literally write it and then wait for your reply
<arkadiy>
want me to hop out and just watch along on YouTube for now?
<richardlitt>
arkadiy: Up to you!
<arkadiy>
alright let me hop out for now
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<ckwaldon1>
Hi, I'm Chris Waldon. I work for IBM and I've been working on py-ipfs-api. I wasn't able to join the hangout, but I'm really just here to watch anyway.
<haad>
ckwaldon1: great to have you participating
<jbenet>
hello ckwaldon1 hello o/
<jbenet>
definitely post questions here if you have any, i will relay the question, and feel free to join
<ckwaldon1>
Thanks, will do.
<richardlitt>
Thanks ckwaldon1!
<ckwaldon1>
I'm definitely interested in how the API semver stuff is going to advance.
<arkadiy>
hi ckwaldon1 :)
<richardlitt>
arkadiy: removed that bad video link from the calendar. Thanks for catching that.
<richardlitt>
use IRC from now on.
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<Guest4833>
hi all
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<richardlitt>
ckwaldon1: we'll discuss that during the call at the end of today
<haad>
that was fast and I have the feeling we'll become even smoother with the all hands call
<haad>
on that note, anyone here on IRC miss the irc weekly status updates? or the call to discuss what was done the previous week?
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<flyingzumwalt>
Note: there are still weekly status updates and discussion of what was done the previous week _within_ the project sprint calls. So we haven't dropped those updates completely, we just moved them around in the day's schedule.
<gavinmcdermott>
Thanks for posting the notes!
<jbenet>
haad: i do miss that, useful to review. but it may be that the PMing boards satisfy what i wanted, after all, review per project may be much more valuable to everyone than global review?. im not sure?
<jbenet>
ah yeah, what flyingzumwalt said o/
<haad>
jbenet: I share your thoughts. kinda miss (the IRC sync especially) but perhaps the boards will give enough info to what others did last week.
<ckwaldon1>
Is there still an http-api-spec call at 11:30PDT?
<richardlitt>
ckwaldon1: We just had it, sorry
<richardlitt>
go-ipfs video coming shortly
<flyingzumwalt>
Oh I forgot about the IRC sync — it wasn't happening anymore by the time I joined on. I read about it though. It sounded like a good idea.
<ckwaldon1>
No, I watched that. I was just unclear whether that was it or whether that was preliminary
<jbenet>
ckwaldon1: ooof, we didn't sign post that apparently, i'm sorry. if you had any questions-- there's issues being posted shortly to hash it all out. nothing was decided, merely important things brought up
<ckwaldon1>
It's fine, I caught that and I'll follow the issues. Thanks.
<jbenet>
ckwaldon1: we try to avoid hashing out the details on calls when there are a lot of other stakeholders to consult
<Kubuxu>
richardlitt: I will rebase the c-multihash stdreadme PR on top of master.
<Kubuxu>
you will have to reset to it when you pull
<jbenet>
ckwaldon1: sync calls = good for hashing out some things, but usually great to just find agreement between a set of people that are identified as the main decision makers. or to explore a topic in great depth. but in general all this stuff should show up on issues.
<jbenet>
ckwaldon1: thanks so much for maintaining py-ipfs-api btw-- super useful, have been seeing all the movement fwd :)
<jbenet>
parkan: did you want to discuss specific things today at these calls? i want to make sure your requests are heard? i will review the last email you sent me in between go-ipfs and js-ipfs calls.
<ckwaldon1>
jbenet: Thanks. I'm hoping that it can really go places soon.
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<nicolagreco>
hello everyone, I won't be connected today
<richardlitt>
nicolagreco: Have fun whereever you are!
<haad>
the hangout is full
<haad>
joining in on the stream
<nicolagreco>
thanks! will get back on ipld/pubsub next week - it is kind of holiday in italy in these days
<nicolagreco>
jbenet: let's try to make it this wednesday
<jbenet>
haad: :( ping me here if you need to ask something that you want said on there
<noffle>
nice to see pubsub things accelerating
<haad>
jbenet: will do
<jbenet>
nicolagreco: sounds good +1
<jbenet>
noffle: yeah! def take a look at nicolagreco's post, and other issues talking about "authenticated streams" and "corecursion". there's also a huge lit review you might like, the reference list is out there somewhere
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[go-ipfs] kevina force-pushed kevina/block-rm from b39aff6 to c88b4b0: https://git.io/vK40o
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go-ipfs/kevina/block-rm 453be22 Kevin Atkinson: Add "ipfs block rm" command....
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go-ipfs/kevina/block-rm 6ad497b Kevin Atkinson: "block rm": use channel instead of pipe / don't abort on non-fatal error...
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go-ipfs/kevina/block-rm efeb789 Kevin Atkinson: Check for multiple pinned blocks in a single pass....
<Kubuxu>
richardlitt: sorry
<noffle>
not much extra time for big projects right now, but small well-scoped things (like the dep crawler) are more feasible
<noffle>
I'll see if there are any nice well contained subtasks
<flyingzumwalt>
where is nicolagreco's pubsub post?
<jbenet>
noffle: for sure-- just signposting discussions you might like / find relevant
<flyingzumwalt>
daviddias FYI I'm streaming the js-ipfs call instead of dialing in to leave room for other callers.
<dignifiedquire>
whyrusleeping: notes are ready for copy and move
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: joining?
<richardlitt>
THere are no other callers, flyingzumwalt
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<haad>
dignifiedquire: have you measured perf difference between the implementations? (pull streams vs. node streams)
<haad>
I'd be curious to know how that changes
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<dignifiedquire>
haad: there are some benchmarks on some pull modules, they are usually pretty close for raw throughput, for us the main thing will be dependent on how we use them. our benchmark endevaour will happen though after the migration so we won't have full comparison probably, but you can test orbit when I'm done :)
<richardlitt>
dignifiedquire: Mute when not talking?
<haad>
dignifiedquire: yup. will definitely see it orbit-db (in numbers), looking forward to it
<gavinmcdermott>
all good
<haad>
daviddias: that's awesome! (re. cat with offset)
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<haad>
daviddias: if it helps you to prioritize, I don't need the cat w/ offset in Orbit anytime soon, it's not urgent for me
<haad>
daviddias jbenet dignifiedquire hector would be able to help on this topic
<haad>
re. test/infra automation
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<_mak>
is it possible to check how many seeds there is for a given file?
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<jbenet>
haad: well, we need this asap. hector starts in oct
<haad>
jbenet: yeah, figured :/
<flyingzumwalt>
@takify everyone survived the calls!
<jbenet>
<3
<daviddias>
Thank you everyone :D
<haad>
thanks!
<daviddias>
this sprints are getting better and better
<flyingzumwalt>
:-( this channel has less fun irc bots than I'm used to.
<gavinmcdermott>
thank you!
<dignifiedquire>
jbenet: whyrusleeping it would be awesome if you could write a high level description of how context works & is currently used in go-ipfs or point me to a place with a good description of it
<thedew>
Hi Libp2p team would like to dive deep into protocol and understand how TLS works ... was late for call
<jbenet>
thedew: we're switching to TLS, we're not currently on TLS. (we made a thing called secio)
<jbenet>
thedew: security warning: none of this is audited yet, lots to do beforehand, so do not rely on ipfs's privacy security yet.
<yangwao>
\o/
<thedew>
Cool ... Its nice to hear a new protocol is made, was never a fan of TLS ... :D
<thedew>
does secio support multiple encryption, as i do understand ECIES , ECDH needs to be ustilised
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<thedew>
neat work with multiple encryption support ... Just checked it <3
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<jbenet>
thedew: well we have a thing called multistream that even lets you do different auth channels, so some impls could lock into TLS or CurveCP or whatever
<jbenet>
thedew: but again, none of this is safe yet. i would consider it broken until formal audits.
<jbenet>
thedew: or consider it just obfuscation :)
<thedew>
dont worry i would also do some part of audit from my end provide with feedback ...
<thedew>
as i intend to use libp2p in some of the development i and my team have been involved into
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<jbenet>
thedew: cool! def give tons of feedback for libp2p. it works well already, but early days, so things can be refined/cleaned up/optimized a ton
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<hermanjunge>
Hola
<hermanjunge>
is there a consensus for the CI?
<hermanjunge>
I'm happening to starting to research GoCD, to use in ipfs-cluster. If you have something better, let me know, and I can help to setup that infra
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<ipfsbot>
[webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #461: Update eslint to version 3.3.1