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<davidar>
whyrusleeping: is ipns stable enough to use for dnslinks yet?
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<hobofan>
Hey there! Is there a way to turn of 'Suborigin' response headers? They cause my chromium to throw the error "Error with Suborigin header: Invalid character 'Q' in suborigin."
<hobofan>
I mean the response headers of the gateway of course.
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<victorbjelkholm>
hobofan, I have seen that as well, but I don't think it's breaking anything. Is there something that is obviously broken for you?
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<dignifiedquire>
haad: what do I need to have running to run examples/benchmark in orbit-db?
<dignifiedquire>
I have redis on the default port running
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<hobofan>
victorbjelkholm: I am not 100% sure that this error is stopping the execution of JS but it looks like it. If I host the assets with a local webserver everything works fine.
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<victorbjelkholm>
hobofan, I think the suborigin error only happens in the built in gateway UI, but you get it when navigating to a .html file directly?
<hobofan>
victorbjelkholm: I still get the same error on the index.html itself. Either way that wouldn't help me much since i need assets that are in the same directory :/
<haad>
dignifiedquire: orbit-server (clone, npm i, npm start)
<dignifiedquire>
right, thanks i new there was something else :D
<victorbjelkholm>
hobofan, there should be no issue to refer to resources in the same directory, for example: "<script src="marked.js"></script>" should work fine if you have marked.js in the same directory
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<haad>
dignifiedquire: yeah sorry, there's no mention that you need one for running the benchmarks
<dignifiedquire>
haad: and for switching to js-ipfs is it enough to change the code inside benchmark.js?
<haad>
dignifiedquire: there's the commented-out section in startIpfs() at the top. the last 3 rows are for js-ipfs (js-ipfs already required at the top)
<haad>
dignifiedquire: it should work if you comment out the ipfsd parts and uncomment the js-ipfs part (the 3 rows)
<hobofan>
victorbjelkholm: Yeah, I already saw that issue but was suprised that it was apparently already implemented.
<haad>
dignifiedquire: let me know when you have numbers, I'm quite curious :)
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<lgierth>
ah hey i was about to ask dignifiedquire and haad about the chrome+suborigin issue
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<dignifiedquire>
this is from a fresh clone + install without modifications
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<dignifiedquire>
haad: neither "load" nor "ready" events get emitted
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<daviddias>
Morning world :)
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: what's up? Checking that files add/get/cat is complete
<daviddias>
and the solution was a lock in the repo
<daviddias>
could you elaborate in your 'fixes' comment?
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<appa-nerd>
Hi, I'm trying to wrap my head around ipfs, I found the redit and this IRC last night, is there a white paper or something authoritative that explains how this works?
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<daviddias>
nicolagreco: you are looking for the service, I believe
<daviddias>
nicolagreco: nvm, got now what you meant
<nicolagreco>
yes, I guess, basically if I have everything in memory, I want to have a resolve() that simply resolve
<nicolagreco>
yup I want js-ipfs-ipld without ipfs
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<nicolagreco>
daviddias: oh I have just seen the code, yes, the resolve we already have the way I describe, then I just need the second one!
<daviddias>
getting an in memory
<daviddias>
just means that when you build the ipfs-repo
<daviddias>
you pass a in-memory storage adapter
<daviddias>
instead of the fs or indexedDB ones
<nicolagreco>
what I believe is that there is a bunch of people that just need ipld (and they don't want to learn about ipfs)
<nicolagreco>
(am I asking for too much?)
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<nicolagreco>
daviddias: this is my context: I am writing a little javascript wrapper around resolve that other than giving you an answer also gives membership proof of that element in the IPLD graph that you have
<daviddias>
nicolagreco: you are not asking too much at all :D
<nicolagreco>
so imagine I ask you to write your software using IPLD, then you may want to use the function resolveWithProof(service, path)
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<daviddias>
you can make the IPLD playground if you want that has everything set up in memory
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<nicolagreco>
so I would like to only ask them to write their data into IPLD+CBOR model
<nicolagreco>
and to add all of their data into the service
<nicolagreco>
(but I don't really want to tell them, HEY you need to start an IPFS node running with these config)
<nicolagreco>
(since what I really ask them is to just use a data model)
<daviddias>
nicolagreco: roger :)
<nicolagreco>
(also I will argue in the next few days that resolveWithProof might be more efficient than your current resolver - but just for IPLD)
<daviddias>
nicolagreco: to clarify, js-ipfs is all modular
<daviddias>
the (IPLD Service + Block Service + IPFS Repo) !== js-ipfs
<dignifiedquire>
nicolagreco: it is, but it really doesn't care about ipfs
<dignifiedquire>
it's just called that way because it also is the integration layer to ipfs
<dignifiedquire>
would it be better for you if we rename it?
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<dignifiedquire>
or is the problem for you the dependency on the ipfs-repo structure that is currently tehre
<nicolagreco>
I think when I tell people they can use IPLD as a data model for their internal data, they want to think about the least amount of stuff, so I get it now - but either abstracting this out or removing the ipfs-repo or making it simpler to have a service backed by any store would be awesome
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<nicolagreco>
hold on, maybe to understand better I need to understand what is BlockService and what is IPFS-repo
<dignifiedquire>
I guess the dependency currenlty is also on ipfs-blocks which is not ideal for arbitrary storage
<dignifiedquire>
it would be straightforward to extract the storage layer
<dignifiedquire>
as an interface
<dignifiedquire>
then they could plug their own storage layer if they want to
<dignifiedquire>
would that work for you?
<dignifiedquire>
the current interface is only putStream, getStream and delete to the storage engine, + serialize and deserialize
<nicolagreco>
this is exactly what I want
<dignifiedquire>
so that could be easily extracted
<nicolagreco>
simple service + resolver
<dignifiedquire>
nicolagreco: if you write me a nice issue I think I can do that tomorrow
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<richardlitt>
dignifiedquire: You OK setting up the calls today?
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: do you think you can look today into bitswap interop?
<richardlitt>
Want me to set up the YouTube streams, now?
<daviddias>
Want lists pass, blocks don't
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: I don't think I can do much coding today anymore, calls are starting in 1.30 and when I'm done with those I will probably crawl into my bed
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: but write it in an issue, and write how and what you tested, and I will look into it as soon as I can
<dignifiedquire>
richardlitt: will setup the streams in roughly an hour so I have some time to test
<dignifiedquire>
richardlitt: could you change the youtube settings, i.e. the name and the description for me?
<richardlitt>
dignifiedquire: looking into it now.
<richardlitt>
dignifiedquire: You'll have to change the name and description for each separate session
<richardlitt>
You have access to https://www.youtube.com/live_dashboard, right? I'm not sure it makes sense for me to change it, now, as I'm not setting up streaming sessions.
<dignifiedquire>
okay will try and ping you if I don't get it
<richardlitt>
dignifiedquire: Sounds good.
<richardlitt>
Anything else I can help with?
<richardlitt>
Oh, I'm asking now because it would be good to put the Hangout and Stream links in the sprint issue at least 30 minutes before all of the calls start.
<dignifiedquire>
but calls only start in 1.30 right?
<dignifiedquire>
richardlitt: I don't think there will be differnt links for the streams, it will be the same link for youtube stream
<dignifiedquire>
for the zoom I need someone with a pro account to create the sessions
<dignifiedquire>
or rather a single session
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<richardlitt>
dignifiedquire: Ah, fair, because we're using zoom now. You're right about it being one YouTube link.
<richardlitt>
This way, we can't run sessions in parallel
<dignifiedquire>
correct
<dignifiedquire>
do we want to do that?
<dignifiedquire>
I didn't we would
<dignifiedquire>
*know
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: can you tell me more about your bitswap tests?
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<richardlitt>
dignifiedquire: Let
<richardlitt>
s just assume we won't today
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<dignifiedquire>
ok
<lgierth>
does anybody know what the status of gmane's webinterface is?
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: understood, today or this week will be the goal :)
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: we've been testing bitswap by connecting a go-ipfs and js-ipfs node together
<daviddias>
whyrusleeping: is finishing up the publishing of go-ipfs modules (gx), so that the latest go-ipfs has the things there needed for the interop at the libp2p layer
<daviddias>
nicolagreco: you can encapsulate all of the IPLD-Service Creation in one module, it will make it way simpler.
<daviddias>
nicolagreco: wanna own that?
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<nicolagreco>
daviddias: let's see how far I get with what I am doing right now, but I will ping you about that (I think dignifiedquire just updated the issue)
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[host 4] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmaN6XdKRej6SAGtsXnWZEuUdZn7Ty6odWteeJKcT1VGMt: Post http://[fc3d:9a4e:3c96:2fd2:1afa:18fe:8dd2:b602]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmaN6XdKRej6SAGtsXnWZEuUdZn7Ty6odWteeJKcT1VGMt&r=true&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&: dial tcp [fc3d:9a4e:3c96:2fd2:1afa:18fe:8dd2:b602]:5001: getsockopt: connection timed out
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: when testing bitswap interop were you simply doing object get? or file get?
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<keks>
hey libp2p team, i'm planning to add support for dominictarr's secret handshake and boxstream, probably also the rpc mechanism such that you can make connections to scuttlebot clients (at least that's the vision)
<keks>
in go
<keks>
damn, the doorbell. brb
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<keks>
re
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<dignifiedquire>
keks: that's pretty awesome
<dignifiedquire>
why not do it in js?
<dignifiedquire>
we are pretty close to having js go interop
<keks>
i'm fluent in go, and barely know js
<dignifiedquire>
that makes sense :)
<keks>
:)
<dignifiedquire>
just thought it would be easier in js because secret handshake is already implemented
<keks>
i assumed that secio would implement the transport interface but found it didn't. should i make secret handshake implement go-libp2p-transport.Transport?
<keks>
it is in go aswell
<keks>
cryptix and me worked on that
<keks>
github.com/cryptix/secretstream
<dignifiedquire>
cool I didn'T know that
<dignifiedquire>
I think so, but whyrusleeping and Kubuxu can answer this better than me
<keks>
alright
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<keks>
another issue is that shs only uses djb curves but go-libp2p-crypto assumes RSA (Pub.Encrypt() doesn't take the senders private key e.g.)
<keks>
such that it might be difficult to properly interface
<Kubuxu>
keks: I don't think we will do it as a focus, we don't want to mantain our own crypto and we want to focus on 1 and 0 round trips negotiastions which is nice property of TLS 1.3
<Kubuxu>
We will be switching to ed25519.
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<keks>
okay. should I work on that first?
<keks>
I am not sure how much effort this is
<keks>
at least sketching an interface so we don't have to change things later on
<keks>
at least that much
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<keks>
Kubuxu:
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<jbenet>
we could work on adding ed25519 keys to libp2p (multikey and so on)
<keks>
yeah that'd be great
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<geoah>
+1 for ed25519 :D
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<whyrusleeping>
keks: youre right, secio really should implement the transport interface..
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<whyrusleeping>
yeap, its log statements that i added to the spdystream code
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<whyrusleeping>
since they have no better way of reporting errors
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<keks>
is there a reason multiaddr doesn't have push() and pop()? push kind of is Encapsulate, but decapsulate seems to be pop() except that it does the opposite
<keks>
you have to specify the ending and it gives you the beginning. aren't you usually interested in the top of the protocol stack?
<jbenet>
keks: yeah, the multiaddr util funcs could be expanded.
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<appa-nerd>
How does ipfs select peers? Does the user make connections or is there a list of known nodes that are automatically added?
<appa-nerd>
Does an ipfs node have to be part of the whole or can it be between a private set of peers?
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: whyrusleeping are you able to confirm it working on your side?
<whyrusleeping>
after bootstrapping though, ipfs will connect to peers as the dht crawls through different queries
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<whyrusleeping>
keks: yeah... the multiaddr interface does feel a bit weird
<whyrusleeping>
should probably open an issue about improving the UX on that
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<M-flyingzumwalt>
nicola are you doing the IPLD call now?
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<nicolagreco>
we just ended it M-flyingzumwalt
<M-flyingzumwalt>
cool. I'll watch for updates in the next captains log.
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<wak-work>
is there a bug for tracking "dht: no addresses on peer being sent!" errors
<wak-work>
i think that there is something more broken that is not being exposed, but i've noticed as soon as my nodes start getting these errors they stop peering well with other nodes
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: you mean, there is something new for us to test?
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: yes latest js-ipfs master with my bitswap PR adds interop as I wrote above and in slack
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