<kvda>
So it's possible to run a private ipfs network too?
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<kvda>
If you remove the bootstrap nodes before running you daemon..
<kvda>
And replacing them with your own.
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<OstlerDev>
It would be possible yeah.
<lgierth>
just need to be careful with it. if you connect to another network, nodes will discover each other and remember addresses
<lgierth>
we'll have prope private networking based on a pre-shared secret some time soon
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<kvda>
even if one of the peers makes the mistake of connecting to the outside network right?
<lgierth>
yeah
<kvda>
got it
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<whyrusleeping>
Oh yeah, IRC
<apiarian>
if i `ipfs object get [thing]` that is on a node on my local network, what is the percentage chance that it will be pulled from the node on my local network, vs some node on the wider internet?
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<whyrusleeping>
apiarian: very high
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<kvda>
does pinned content get treated preferentially? ie if you have 3 nodes with the same content pinned, will they be used the most to serve that content?
<lgierth>
pinning affects only whether stuff can be garbage-collected
<apiarian>
so is Datastore.StorageMax only for gc-able stuff? pinned stuff can go over the max?
<lgierth>
well it's supposed to be a hard limit, but right now it seems like it's used only for triggering GC at a certain watermark
<kvda>
ah i see, so you can't really guarantee higher performance/availability on certain content
<kvda>
use case being that you might want to have your own ipfs servers serving your content preferentially to being a part of the larger ipfs network
<kvda>
almost like a QoS thing
<lgierth>
pinning does guarantee availability/persistence, but for a performance guarantee the first step is ensuring great connectivity
<lgierth>
whyrusleeping: we should have a setting for restricting ones own addresses
<lgierth>
e.g. on server-type nodes i'd want to announce only the public addresses
<kvda>
ok so ipfs network is able to sniff out where the content is coming through the quickest? you putting in larger pipes on your pinned content increases the chance of your servers/nodes being used
<apiarian>
lgierth: so if you hit the hard limit while adding a really large object and no gc is going to save you, you get an error?
<lgierth>
the hard limit is broken
<lgierth>
kvda: it's less about bandwidth and more about stable addresses, stables pings, absence of packet loss, etc.
<kvda>
ah yes of course
<kvda>
is there a formula that a node gets ranked on based on those factors? pardon all the question, feel free to point me to docs :)
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<lgierth>
kvda: kademlia
<kvda>
thanks! lgierth
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<zignig_>
lgierth: what OS are we using for the gateways at the moment ?
<lgierth>
ubuntu 14.04
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<lgierth>
whyrusleeping: so it turns out that cjd was regularly crashing half of hyperboria, and that one pinbot target might work more reliably now :)
<whyrusleeping>
lgierth: pffft
<lgierth>
crash in a dht rpc call -- ring a bell?
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<whyrusleeping>
i've no idea what you could be talking about
<lgierth>
:)
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<whyrusleeping>
p2p is hard
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<kvda>
small ux thing, but was there any talk of having ipfs-daemon as a seperate tool?
<lgierth>
ipfs-gateway and ipfs-mount
<zignig_>
lgierth: cheers, going to look into astralboot-erizing ipfs/infrastructure for SAG.
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<zignig_>
whyrusleeping: p2p is hard, read CAP , assume non linear quantum entanglement.
<whyrusleeping>
zignig_: i'll worry about that after i'm done fixing race conditions in mdns libs
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<zignig_>
a good plan, while you are doing that , can you add sharing the gateway/api interface details in the mdns beacon.
<zignig_>
;)
<whyrusleeping>
zignig_: mmmm... not right now. but you should file an issue about it
<zignig_>
whyrusleeping: ok.
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<ogd>
fvc
<ogd>
wrong window!!! sorry :D
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<lgierth>
whyrusleeping: what's your releaseCmd?
<lgierth>
(with gx release)
<whyrusleeping>
git commit -a -m "gx publish $VERSION"
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<Artazor>
that will implement this type of the statistics
<Artazor>
Though we have to agree how we measure a statistics. I will create an Enhancement issue on the github.
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<banana_>
Hey, I am playing around with ipfs and want to set up a data sharing app between users on android and iOS phones.
<banana_>
My initial thoughts are, run say 4 nodes using nodejs on some cloud server. Connect 2-3 android clients via socket.io to each node and use that for setting up chat and data sharing service
<banana_>
As native android is not yet supported by ipfs.
<banana_>
Any thoughts/ advice from the community?
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<dignifiedquire>
Kubuxu: so I'm minding my own business, running tests on javascript code when suddenly this happens :D
<dawuud>
i'm still blocked on the onion transport component... i think what i need to do is somehow find the git commit ids of several golang dependencies and use ipfs's golang package tool gx to copy them into an ipfs storage node and record their hash ids and this results in a local cached copy for my dev environment
<dawuud>
i would want go libp2p transport and other things like that to build from the master branch... but apparently there are commit ids i need to look for
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: ping
<daviddias>
hello :)
<dignifiedquire>
good morning and welcome back to the land of the living ;)
<daviddias>
ahahah :D
<daviddias>
to the 'right timezone'
<dignifiedquire>
:D
<dignifiedquire>
how are you doing? already back to business?
<daviddias>
spending the morning going through backlog and handling home stuff
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<daviddias>
I don't believe we can break the user API in multihashing, have been thinking about it and the best option ( given that having both API would multiply deps) is to have multihashing-async module
<daviddias>
And recommend devs to use it in multihashing, explaining why
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<daviddias>
On the first PR, my last comment is to Lee Joi validation, if there are more optional Args, then so be it :)
<daviddias>
s/Lee/lets keep
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<daviddias>
@dignifiedquire: ^ :)
<dignifiedquire>
so you mean creating a new module for multihashing?
<dignifiedquire>
if we recommend devs to use the new version, we can just do a major version bump, with a changelog, that way everyone who wants to not refactor their code can stay on the old version, and we don't have to maintain to different versions
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: re Joi validation as I said in my comment I wasn't able to get that working, Joi would always throw if js-ipfs-api passed it something it didn't know
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: ^^
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<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: yeah, that is what I'm working on :D:D so that we can map their blocks and resolve them direclty
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<Kubuxu>
dignifiedquire: which go-ipfs are you running?
<Kubuxu>
as you are running osx, was it build with go 1.7?
<Kubuxu>
you can check with `ipfs version --all
<Kubuxu>
`
<Kubuxu>
I think I finally found the go-reuseport bug.
<Kubuxu>
If it is it, that is the most time expensive, `dd` command in vim ever.
<Kubuxu>
YES
<Kubuxu>
that was it
<Kubuxu>
Oh my god
<Kubuxu>
I will print this patch file and frame it on a wall.
<lgierth>
:):)
<Kubuxu>
That has to be one of the most intriguing bugs I ever fixed.
<Kubuxu>
The circumstances had to be just right for it to happen.
<Kubuxu>
I mean: FileConn has to fail, there had to be fd pressure so fd gets reused quickly, plus lots of connections so it is reused in the Dial routine and there had to be memory pressure so GC runs
<Kubuxu>
That was a journey.
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<LugariusMtrx>
How do I setup denylists?
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<Kubuxu>
there isn't solution in ipfs right now, we had one but it was unsatisfactory so it was removed, if you want to block something right now you can use nginx reverse proxy.
<Kubuxu>
lgierth: do we have issue on that ^^
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<lgierth>
yeah multiple
<LugariusMtrx>
So denylists do not exist anymore?
<LugariusMtrx>
No dcma blocks by default?
<lgierth>
they don't not exist "anymore", we've never had them in the past
<lgierth>
Kubuxu: haha i'm off yak shaving too lol -- but at least now i know exactly what to do and how to do it nicely
<lgierth>
LugariusMtrx: we meant that we've never had code in go-ipfs for blocking things (we will in the mid-term future, there's a couple of things to figure out to do it nicely and the right way)
<lgierth>
LugariusMtrx: the few dmca requests that we've received, we've handled through nginx
<Kubuxu>
you don't want to know what kind of strace magic I was pulling out yesterday
<Kubuxu>
GOTRACEBACK=all strace -t -f -k -o strace/trace -e trace=close ./go-libp2p-kad-dht.test -test.run TestPeriodicBootstrap 2>&1 | tee out | less
<lgierth>
nice
<Kubuxu>
where `strace` directory was tmpfs because my PCI SSD was too slow..
<lgierth>
too slow to catch the race?
<Kubuxu>
yup
<Kubuxu>
the memory, fd and connection pressures had to be just right for it to show up
<lgierth>
^5
<Kubuxu>
normal stracing wasn't a problem but when I added `-k` option it slowed down a lot
<Kubuxu>
`-k` shows you full back trace at the syscall
<lgierth>
whyrusleeping: ping when you're there about that new recursive update command in gx
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<lgierth>
haha fuck, the jbenet=>multiformats rename is even breaking gx itself
<lgierth>
this yak just keeps growing hair like harry potter
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<dawuud>
lgierth: ah yeah that's one of the problems preventing me from building the new onion transport
<lgierth>
dawuud: i'm on it
<dawuud>
the multiformats rename
<dawuud>
;-) ok thanks
<lgierth>
took way too long already but expect something working tomorrow
<lgierth>
i'm making tooling for bubbling up the gx dependency updates, we didn't have that yet but this time it's big enough to immediately automate
<M-hash>
last I recall hearing, cbor was intended to be the canonical encoding... so the questions on the golang-dev list about gob and mention of porting gob to other languages made my eyebrows wiggle a bit
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<dignifiedquire>
I see (haven't read that part), as far as I know the canonical one is currently cbor but the plan is to make it easy to have different encodings
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<Mateon1>
What even is CBOR? I've never heard of it.
<whyrusleeping>
M-hash: ehm... i'll keep you posted
<M-hash>
i'm splunking around that code rn and trying to grok the `Node`s
<M-hash>
have been thinking about writing some other reflective mapper stuff in go as a library which would happen to make sense sitting in front of a serializer.
<M-hash>
wondering if i can make it useful
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<dawuud>
hallo
<bonesso>
hi
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<ReactorScram>
hey
<achin>
ohi
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<dawuud>
the build system will work again
<dawuud>
the animal sacrifices will see to that
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<dawuud>
snake eats it's tail
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<shadoxx>
hey
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* whyrusleeping
feels like he walked in on a secret meeting
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