lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.4 has been released with an important pinning hotfix, get it at https://dist.ipfs.io | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0 | Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh
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<vtomole> How I sell ipfs to someone who doesn't really care about privacy? A person who only uses Facebook and Netflix, who doesn't even know that links break and it's a huge problem?
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<whyrusleeping> vtomole: ask them if they noticed the internet being down the other day
<whyrusleeping> during the DDoS attack
<whyrusleeping> ask them if they like the idea of that happening more often
<vtomole> ipfs is DDoS proof?
<vtomole> Awesome, i will use that argument! Thanks!
<whyrusleeping> vtomole: not DDoS proof, but much more resistant to it
<whyrusleeping> the more content gets requested, the more available it becomes
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<whyrusleeping> huh
<whyrusleeping> exciting
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<Aranjedeath> wooooot
<Aranjedeath> slight increase in binary size and memory usage for some workloads for (apparently) huge reduction in complexity of GC
<Aranjedeath> this, this is very exciting
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<whyrusleeping> reduction in complexity and removal of stop the world pauses
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<nycoliver> Running into errors with the latest go-ipfs build and js-ipfs-api
<daviddias> nycoliver: can I get a gist?
<daviddias> I was just running js-ipfs-api against 0.4.4 and all tests pass
<daviddias> + go-ipfs has js-ipfs-api on CI, so it wouldn't get release without it working. There might be however, something that tests didn't catch
<nycoliver> 0.4.4 is fine, problems are with 0.4.5-dev
<nycoliver> err: multipart: NextPart: http: invalid Read on closed Body handler.go:288
<nycoliver> when I files.add in ipfs-api
<nycoliver> weird thing is it only happens on some requests
<nycoliver> about 50/50
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<nycoliver> just crashed ipfs daemon
<nycoliver> panic: runtime error: index out of range
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<daviddias> which version of js-ipfs-api?
<nycoliver> 10.0.0
<nycoliver> Gist coming in a sec
<daviddias> whyrusleeping: do you know if the http api changed in any way?
<nycoliver> Spamming the add button consistently crashes ipfs daemon
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<daviddias> have you tried changing that line
<daviddias> compiling go-ipfs
<daviddias> and running your test?
<daviddias> If it that is exactly the problem
<daviddias> it would be sweet to have that as a test in js-ipfs-api
<daviddias> so that go-ipfs gets through it
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<nycoliver> I checked out the previous commit, no error
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<lemmi> wasn't it diecourages to reply without reading the full body first?
<lemmi> omg. discouraged
<whyrusleeping> daviddias: yeah, we changed that flushing thing because it makes a lot of things more responsive feeling
<whyrusleeping> i realize that sentence wasnt super coherent
<daviddias> hm.. so, does that need to add the limitation that nycoliver is seeing?
<haad> daviddias: are you still or already? :)
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<daviddias> haad: getting back to my early morning schedule (which I always try to do when at home and can in fact, control my schedule :))
<daviddias> whyrusleeping: important note for the dag API -> https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/pull/398#issuecomment-257075131
<haad> daviddias: if you have a moment (ie. not busy with something else), let's talk about the DAGNode in js-ipfs-api? I don't understand what you're saying in the GH issue
<daviddias> sure
<daviddias> hangout?
<haad> cool
<daviddias> also, whyrusleeping if you want to join https://hangouts.google.com/call/alkljbvlnfgt5eqxcynjwjiexae :)
<haad> sure
<whyrusleeping> i'm so tired
<whyrusleeping> i would
<whyrusleeping> but i wouldnt be much use
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<nycoliver> I'm finding it impossible to create an object linking to added files
<nycoliver> Using ipfs-api
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<nycoliver> I can't use addNodeLink because it takes a DAGNode, not a multihash
<nycoliver> Any suggestions?
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<Dunkhan> is there something like a search engine for content in ipfs?
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<Mateon2> Dunkhan: Not yet, the best you can find so far are the Reddit hash sharing threads at r/ipfs
<Dunkhan> ok thanks
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<Mateon2> Dunkhan: This one has a lot of things: https://www.reddit.com/r/ipfs/comments/4cytxa/hash_sharing_thread/
<A124> Lot of dead things also.
<Mateon2> True
<Mateon2> I think this might be back from 0.3.x days.
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<Kubuxu> i think we have a winner with Travis wait time
<Kubuxu> #3324 was pushed 10h ago
<Kubuxu> still no result from travis
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<lgierth> i'm pinning a few repos on the org pages, e.g. https://github.com/ipfs
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<daviddias> nycoliver there is a addRawLink
<daviddias> and you can pass it on the constructor
<daviddias> new DAGNode(<data>, <links>)
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: any strong reasons on why running tests on SauceLabs 3 times (on each node version?)?
<daviddias> we have a limit of 8 concurrent sessions and 90 hours to spend
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<dignifiedquire> we do?
<dignifiedquire> re on all three versions, just haven't figured out the best way to restrict it to one
<dignifiedquire> but did you get it to work at all?
<daviddias> it worked for me with the ipfs account
<daviddias> now running with a subaccount
<daviddias> trying to understand if this is actually what they expect (one account for each repo? madness!)
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: seems to work to me
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<daviddias> however, super weird that it requires one account per repo
<dignifiedquire> :O
<dignifiedquire> yeah you need account per repo to get the badges
<dignifiedquire> it's super painful :/ not sure why they don't support sth easier
<dignifiedquire> 404
<daviddias> how can I make this public https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iObjaoOA/
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<TreverBerryman> Does anyone here know how to use IPFS with the Truffle Framework?
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<demize> Generate the assets, add them to IPFS, success.
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<physes> Using IPFS in Ethereum, is a bytes32 field adequate to handle content addresses?
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<A124> ipfs add should be multithreaded with single thread for I/O.
<A124> Also given ipld, can one have custom data included with the dag, so they still function like files and directories, correct?
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<whyrusleeping> A124: ipld won't be accesible as 'files' in the short term
<whyrusleeping> we will still be using the protobufs for unixfs
<whyrusleeping> at least for now
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<Kubuxu> A124: I have long term plan of creating Unix Socket API, then you could send file fd over the Unix Socket and use mmap to readit/chunk it.
<Kubuxu> with multiple threads
<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: are you around?
<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: yeah
<Kubuxu> I had brilliant idea (that might be stupid). If we do the .git creation for gx, then we can create something that is like a repo and use subfolders of it as dependency paths, but it will complicate rewriting. Scrap that.
<Kubuxu> sorry
<Kubuxu> problem with that is if you use IPNS (or DNS) then old versions will be updated to new deps.
<Kubuxu> that won't work
<A124> So, my yay about raw leafs was appropriate but too soon.
<whyrusleeping> A124: heh?
<A124> Is leafs usable, or only leaves?
<whyrusleeping> we will be using raw leaves for files
<whyrusleeping> but not the cbor ipld objects
<A124> Ooooh. Riiight.
<whyrusleeping> i think your yay was still appropriate :)
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<Kubuxu> do we have to stay with the protobuf for unixfs, can't we make unixfs readers use IPLD, create ipld-for-protobuf resolver and use cbor-ipld of the unixfs format for files?
<whyrusleeping> we don'y *have* to
<A124> whyrusleeping Yes it was ;)
<whyrusleeping> but i don't really want to
<whyrusleeping> don't really want to switch, that is
<Kubuxu> As if we default for files with raw leafs, we change new hashes, then if we decide that we want to move from protobuf to ipld we change new hashes again.
<Kubuxu> but with raw leafs it will be much less painful
<A124> I had exactly the same thing in mind.
<Kubuxu> as your data will still deduplicate with existing data
<Kubuxu> just linking objects will be new
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<whyrusleeping> yeah, i'm not super concerned about `ipfs add` hashes changing
<whyrusleeping> especially if we give options to be able to use the old behaviour
<A124> To go back to my question: Does current and if ever done ipld implementation allow specifying additional fields?
<A124> Without breaking anything for the unifs stuff?
<whyrusleeping> when we use ipld for unixfs, yes
<whyrusleeping> you would be able to add whatever fields you like
<A124> Not with protobuf? Damn.
<whyrusleeping> no, protobuf will not change
<whyrusleeping> Yeah, making changes to protobuf means breaking things
<A124> Now I am proponent of Kubuxu's idea using ipld for unixfs.
<whyrusleeping> and since we're intending to move away from protobuf at some point, we don't want to create a 'new' protobuf format
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<whyrusleeping> using ipld for unixfs will probably happen early next year
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<A124> So my "foolish" idea about double linked double tree that I had is not that foolish anyway.
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<A124> Thank you, got better picture and more to think around.
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<whyrusleeping> :)
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: got enough work to do or do you want more things todo on async crypto;)
<daviddias> ahah I'm racing towards the bitswap milestone
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<daviddias> but let's see what I can get done today and what I can add for tomorrow :)
<dignifiedquire> :) right bitswap for ipld isnot ready yet?
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<pjz> defacto gui interface
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire it's not, it is a big piece
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<[_]`> I am looking for additional (non-techy) resource as to what ipfs can and can't do other than what's on the from page of the website. Any recommended article to read to vid to watch? (i've watched the demo vid but it's from 2015 i'm guessing there is more to be added there?)
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<ansuz> hello friends
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<lgierth> ansuz incoming
<lgierth> damn too slow
<ansuz> ohai lgierth
<ansuz> sO
<ansuz> I want to use the ipfs npm registry
<ansuz> but I'm told it's being blocked because some CEO sharted
<ansuz> or they're supposed to shart on a directory
<ansuz> or something about sharks
<ansuz> what gives
<ansuz> daviddias: plz shark my directory
<daviddias> hey ansuz !
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: has been putting some hours towards that
<ansuz> I can't shark my npm directories
<ansuz> but I want to
<daviddias> shard*
<ansuz> dignifiedquire: will you help me with my directory sharking?
<daviddias> sharding is on 0.4.4, you will need to use go-ipfs master
<ansuz> ok
<ansuz> is there a guide about how I shark my npm?
<daviddias> you won't have to do a thing it is just a Files API feature
<ansuz> oh, so I just `npm install`?
<daviddias> yeah
<ansuz> cool
<ansuz> thanks for helping me with my shark problem, daviddias, dignifiedquire, jbenet
<ansuz> lgierth
<ansuz> kumavis:
<ansuz> Kubuxu
<Kubuxu> \o/
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<ansuz> sry for the hilight kumavis, you didn't help me
<ansuz> hi Kubuxu
<Kubuxu> hi ansuz
<kumavis> Who dares wake my eternal slumber
<Kubuxu> doing well,eh?
<ansuz> kumavis: it is I, ansuz
<ansuz> oui, toujours, Kubuxu
<kumavis> What is your quest
<ansuz> more sharks, apparently
<ansuz> I don't understand it, but they help me not rely on npm, so I'm happy
<lgierth> npm-on-ipfs and it being blocked on directory sharding
<Kubuxu> but we are hoping to get that in the next version
<ansuz> version 404?
<ansuz> I couldn't find it on dist ipfs
<lgierth> yes that one
<ansuz> what else is in this version?
<ansuz> or the next one
<ansuz> version 404
<lgierth> ipld support
<lgierth> CIDs
<lgierth> fixes
<ansuz> oh, I'm already running v404
<ansuz> do I need to do anything to shart my old directories?
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<ansuz> is client mode dht a thing yet?
<ansuz> I know --offline works
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<ansuz> I want to download an npm module without using all my data
<ansuz> cause I'm tethered
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<ansuz> larsg: This module has been deprecated, use ipfs-npm instead
<ansuz> lgierth
<ansuz> daviddias: readme is broken
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<daviddias> Sorry about that ansuz
<daviddias> I started a big refactor: https://github.com/diasdavid/npm-on-ipfs/pull/43 and got stale waiting on that sharding
<ansuz> hmm
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: continued that work here: https://github.com/diasdavid/npm-on-ipfs/pull/45
<ansuz> sounds like a systemic problem
<ansuz> have you folks adopted an agile methodology?
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<lgierth> 20:53+0000 <@larsg> wow ansuz you've gotten pretty good at being a pain
<lgierth> 20:53+0000 <@larsg> props :)
<lgierth> 20:53+0000 <@ansuz> thx
<ansuz> hi lgierth
<ansuz> I realize it may look like criticism when I expose an out of date readme
<ansuz> but really, I just want to make ipfs great again
<lgierth> that's why we love you ansuz
<lgierth> <3
<ansuz> I'm somewhat fond of you folks too
<ansuz> <3
<ansuz> hmm
<ansuz> still waiting on npm-ipfs to install
<ansuz> I wonder how deep the dependency tree is
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<ansuz> I think some install script in the dependency went into an infiniloop
<ansuz> cause my computer locked up
<ansuz> and my network connection died
<lgierth> nice
<lgierth> any chance to see what it is?
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<ansuz> no, I had to restart
<ansuz> I'll try again when I'm on an unlimited connection and nobody else needs to use it
<ansuz> maybe thursday evening after the rest of the office has left
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<lgierth> damn
<lgierth> i was in this big website/examples/blog yak shaving session when someone interrupted me and we talked for 3h or so
<lgierth> no idea where i left off
<ansuz> rip
<lgierth> and of course i let my laptop's battery drain so i don't have any bash history
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<[_]`> I asked this earlier but got dc'ed.. was trying to figure out some ipfs some more (i've read stuff on webpage and watched the demo). i am looking for elaboration of the "high latency" stuff mentioned on the website.
<[_]`> High latency networks are a real barrier of entry to developing world. IPFS provides resilient access to data, independent of low latency or connectivity to the backbone.
<[_]`> How/why does it help etc? if anyone has some useful links to articles let me have em'! thanks
<i[m]> Because as long as 1 peer on the available network has the data it can be shared.
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<[_]`> ah so assuming the data is avaliable `more locally`/regionally instead of some server far away type thing? hmm
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