richardlitt changed the topic of #ipfs to: IMPORTANT: Don't run GC (`ipfs repo gc` or `ipfs daemon —enable-gc`), there's a bug with possible data loss: see https://git.io/vPkBa — IPFS - https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs — FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 — Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ — CoC: https://git.io/vVBS0 — Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh — Q4 Roadmap Calls on Oct 10: http://bit.ly/2cWVVvJ
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<lgierth> Kubuxu: you still awake?
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<lgierth> Kubuxu: nevermind it's okay -- running gc on the gateways
<A124> lgierth When you finish, tell me, I try to overload it (unintentionaly)
<lgierth> A124: nah they're fine
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<uuu_john> Hi, should ipfs-applicaton development use a sandbox environment? Is that event available/necessary?
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<uuu_john> Hi, should ipfs-applicaton development use a sandbox environment? Is that event available/necessary?
<uuu_john> whoops
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<zignig> uuu_john: what kind of application ?
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<physes> Hey eveyone, I published a memo to an IPNS key and after a day it stopped showing. Can anyone explain this? https://ipfs.io/ipns/QmVj8fCM5Ntm1tyx6zx8A6bPAVQ7kT3jE4LiAk2CAJizQz/
<physes> I get "Path Resolve error: Could not resolve name."
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<deltab> physes: the entry expired; you'll need to publish it daily
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<Kubuxu> or have the daemon that published it running
<ne1> is everything public on ipfs at this point?
<ne1> no authentication mechanism or anything like that?
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<Kubuxu> it will republish it, but only if it is one that published it initially
<Kubuxu> ne1: no, if you want something private you have to encrypt it before adding
<ne1> ok
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<physes> I thought once you published something it was permenent
<physes> is there any way of adding it to ipfs so that it will serve without having to leave the daemon running?
<physes> is that what bitswap/filecoin is for?
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<r0kk3rz> physes: ultimately someone has to serve it, so yeah thats basically what filecoin is for
<physes> hmm. could the storage incentivization be done on Ethereum via a smart contract?
<r0kk3rz> afaik filecoin will be built as an ethereum token, so i guess so
<physes> As an ethereum developer I've been thinking about how to emulate the incentivization aspects of swarm for ipfs. Would be better to use ethereum than attempting to run a completely sepearate chain
<physes> ah
<r0kk3rz> physes: im sure we will learn more about the plans once the devcon2 videos as up
<physes> For the Nebulis dns system I'm building there will be a token called "Dust", which is a kind of metering token. Any chance this could be adapted to help the incentivization project? Would like to contribute to IPFS if possible, although it seems like a closed-box
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<r0kk3rz> closed box?
<r0kk3rz> if you want to build a storage network on ipfs, go right ahead
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<physes> ok
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<pawal> physes: the ipfs:// URI is already kind of used in IPFS
<pawal> it also sounds like that you are creating domain names that will potentially clash with the current DNS system, which is a really bad idea
<pawal> rather than have name queries go through a URI, you should probably use a reserved TLD name for it (IETF dnsop discusses .alt for alternative naming schemes)
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<physes> thanks for your suggestions @pawel. There won't be clashes as it uses a different URI. Although it might be a good idea to be able to flag obvious overlaps to prevent phishing
<pawal> physes: ipfs:// defines sofar ipfs://ipfs/Qm... and ipfs://ipns/Qm... so it would be possible to add other naming schemes to ipfs:://whatever/...
<physes> That's good
<pawal> the problem with other namespaces that looks like DNS it that it will definitely leak to DNS
<physes> Well, in the browser, the best practice would be to have a drop-down that allows people to go between ipfs and http to make that clear
<physes> The records map the url, aka ipfs://<pre>.<mid>.<tld> to /ipfs/ or /ipns/. Whether it's an ipfs or ipns record is specified as a boolean, so the only necessary information is the ipfs hash and the bool, not necessarily that it maps ipfs's native uri schemes
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<pawal> Not all applications are based on a web browser...
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<physes> Then how would it clash with the dns system?
<r0kk3rz> physes: you would have two authorities claiming the name foo.bar
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<physes> Not if it's a separate namespace and is clearly delineated as such. you can have two different foo.bar's in different contexts, just like people can create the same username on different platforms. If there is no problem with overlapping user-namespaces then I don't see the issue here
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<kumavis> daviddias: alo/
<kumavis> reviewing last weeks ipfs-wide sync call
<kumavis> id like to start run webrtc libp2p experiments in metamask
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<kumavis> dont need to do anything eth related just yet, but would like to see if we can keep a mesh up and running, and how the health changes over time
<kumavis> not sure how many concurrent users but 2.8k installs and people tend to leave their browsers running
<kumavis> are there any utilities for measuring mesh health?
<kumavis> could also help test flood-sub perf+behavior
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<achin> ping someone with ops daviddias jbenet Kubuxu lgierth whyrusleeping
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<wrouesnel1> does this make sense as a pattern for ipfs: daemon running (as a docker container) on my home fileserver, exposing the API port internally so I can manage it? How would I configure the local ipfs client on my desktop to use this daemon's API by default (and can I secure that, i.e. wrap it with SSL/basic auth?)
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<r0kk3rz> wrouesnel1: what is your aim?
<r0kk3rz> sounds like you want to use your fileserver as a gateway
<wrouesnel1> that's the idea. gateway + local cache (since it has like, 20TB of storage)
<r0kk3rz> im not sure ipfs is really set up for that pattern yet, unless you set up a http proxy and used it that way
<wrouesnel1> so that's what I have going at the moment: nginx on the webserver handling the port 5001 ui
<r0kk3rz> maybe the routing=client option can be used in future for this
<achin> i wonder if changing the Addressses.API parameter on both your fileserver and your desktop would get you most of the way there
<wrouesnel1> is there a concise reference for config options? the examples page is a bit sparse...
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<achin> not that i know of i'm afraid
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<kumavis> daviddias:
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<kumavis> daviddias: i guess another thing is what is something meshy we can do
<kumavis> pubsub would be great but im assuming thats not readily available
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<Mateon1> This is frustrating, after a day of fighting with dependency after dependency cause I had the wrong version of Node, I find out that I can't install Orbit on anything. - "Ubuntu On Windows"/WSL: No syscalls for pthreads, trololo; Windows host: "throw new Error('no binary available for os:' + goenv.GOOS)" from go-ipfs-dep@0.4.4-floodsub2
<whyrusleeping> Mateon1: thats no good :( hey haad any ideas there?
<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: the list of hashes you sent me wasnt very well formatted, i hadnt gotten around to backing them up yet
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<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: also, on your stress script, you should make it so that gateway requests have to pull from a different node
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<Mateon1> whyrusleeping: I was about to do this exact thing, but somebody beat me to it by 25 mins: https://github.com/diasdavid/go-ipfs-dep/pull/9/files
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<Mateon1> daviddias: Can we merge that PR? I've tested it and it works, and the code looks fine.
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<whyrusleeping> i think he might be on a plane over the atlantic right now
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: care to look at https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3253? Or you taking the day of/ still busy resolving the pin problem?
<whyrusleeping> kevina: yeah, i can take a look now
<kevina> whyrusleeping: thanks
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: that looks simple enough to me
<kevina> okay, I will make a P.R. and close #3253
<kevina> whyrusleeping: BTW: Will it be helpful if I join in any of the meetings on Monday?
<whyrusleeping> kevina: yeah, if you want to stop by the go-ipfs sprint meetings that would be cool
<whyrusleeping> and joining the all-hands might be interesting to you, but not required
<whyrusleeping> this monday is gonna be a bit weird, as we will all be in toronto
<kevina> oh, another conference?
<whyrusleeping> Nah, we're just getting the whole protocol labs team together for a week
<whyrusleeping> its cheaper to do that every so often than to have a real office :P
<kevina> So why toronto?
<kevina> Or Canada?
<whyrusleeping> when you take into account the cost of everyone flying there, its one of the cheapest places for us all to go
<whyrusleeping> but we change it up every time
<whyrusleeping> it was lisbon last time
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<kevina> so there just for a week this time?
<whyrusleeping> yeah
<kevina> you where in lisbon for what seams like a month
<kevina> toronto is so close to where I physically am (Washington DC area), yet just far enough away that I can't just stop by :(
<whyrusleeping> yeah, we were in lisbon forever
<whyrusleeping> it was pretty fun though
<whyrusleeping> but its hard to get work done away from home
<whyrusleeping> so a month was... too much
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<keks> when i use go-ipfs-api to use the object put rpc, how long will i be able to access that object?
<keks> b/c i try to object get it on the next program invocation and it's not there anymore
<whyrusleeping> keks: thats odd, have some example code?
<keks> hang on, i'll push
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<keks> hmm it's not really example code, sorry
<keks> not an mwe
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<keks> oh way,m, i think the \n is still at the end
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<keks> -.- that was it
<keks> gotta <3 late night coding
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