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<sdgathman>
Are Wikileaks getting mirrored in IPFS?
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<A124>
Re: <why> backlink databases would be so awesome to have
<A124>
^ I did talk about that in past, got dismissed as useless.
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<A124>
I did try to find it in logs, but somehow it is missing. Also one has to define what is mean by backlink, in coarse terms it could be either reverse tree, or time series backlinking.
<silwol[m]>
Assuming I know a bunch of IPFS hashes (e.g. a collection of Linux ISOs), but I don't have on disk or in my IPFS repo, is there an ipfs-go command to build the hash for a directory containing these files I don't have?
<A124>
In my opinion a modern (read: future, 10+ years, but building it needs to be done 10 years sooner) needs to be a 4D structure.
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<A124>
With the tree we have now, "uplink" tree to be able to lookup what stuff does use such datablocks (non lossy tree in case of a reverse tree for a specific current tree, lossy in case of discovery).
<A124>
And a time series one, to lookup the versions of things that are meant to be versioned. Which was discussed already. Will leave it here, with a link, just to ... keep that in mind, for later when the core is more ready for this stuff. https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs/issues/31
<A124>
silwol[m] Yes.
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<A124>
a) you can build it in your code and use "magic" of a unix directory expressed as protobuf, or b) you can "$ ipfs object patch" of any empty directory hash.
<A124>
Which is QmUNLLsPACCz1vLxQVkXqqLX5R1X345qqfHbsf67hvA3Nn. {"Links":[],"Data":"\u0008\u0001"}
<silwol[m]>
A124: nice!
<A124>
silwol[m] Would you mind providing those hashes as a paste?
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<silwol[m]>
A124: haven't done any of that, was just thinking whether it was possible.
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<silwol[m]>
A124: would of course also come in handy when somebody finally implements debian apt transport for ipfs.
<A124>
silwol[m] Provide me set of pairs of names and hashes and I will hack you together a bash function.
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<silwol[m]>
A124: thanks, I just tried it, and it works as expected.
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<A124>
kevina Would like to start playing with implementing own kind of backing store. Is there stuff you can recommend reading upon? Would like to be able to use a mix of blockstore, filestore and my own, idealy, but I can start of with my own only.
<A124>
Have some thoughts about merging it with existing stuff, but the time it takes to get familiar with stuff without documentation (thanks linux kernel) is steep, so I might start writing filesystem anew.
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<kegsay>
Restarting freenode bridge to pull in more ping timeout fixes and DNS round-robin fixes - a lot of users will part/join from this channel
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oh
<ansuz>
rip matrix
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<daviddias>
victorbjelkholm: I know, it was when Feross and Mathias found that sec vuln in the normal Buffer API. we need to port it all over
<A124>
Is there golang docs IPFS mirror yet?
<A124>
If not, I might make one. I want transperent online/offline and IPFS is best to provide that.
<daviddias>
kumavis: checking that now
<daviddias>
if I'm seeing it right
<daviddias>
SHA3 is just the name NIST gives to Keccak variations
<daviddias>
so, it means that we support Keccak, but not with its name
<kegsay>
a whole bunch of clients are about to rejoin this channel, sorry for the incoming spam
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<cjd>
another idea is to only join one of them and use that one to collect back the data from the channel but then join them one by one as they talk
<cjd>
because I guess most are idlers or are actually gone
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<r0kk3rz>
cjd: but then you'd have Matrix: Nick: Message for every message
<r0kk3rz>
and tab complete wouldnt work, and that would be even more annoying
<cjd>
no, that's not what I suggested, I suggested that matrix send only 1 person to the channel at first and then join the others when they say something in that channel
<cjd>
the point of joining one person (whichever random person) is that this connection can collect back the channel logs to matrix side
<r0kk3rz>
sounds a bit asinine to me
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<cjd>
So I should make note that you prefer massive floods ?
<r0kk3rz>
if you like
<r0kk3rz>
netsplits cause join/part floods too, its just kinda part of IRC
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<r0kk3rz>
plus i guess ive got this whole weechat smart filter going so i dont even see them :P
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<kegsay>
the Matrix bridge supports both modes of operation (single user to gather -> send to matrix, or 1 client per matrix user), but by default operates in "every matrix user is represented as a real IRC client" due to concerns about people being able to read channels without being present on the membership list. It's configurable on a per-channel basis, so for example for us on #matrix we use the "1 user to gather" method or else we'd have 4.5k user
<kegsay>
s on #matrix
<kegsay>
and as people speak they join the channel
<kegsay>
which is exactly what cjd is describing afaict
<cjd>
ahh ok cool
<cjd>
so I only need to complain at whyrusleeping until he says that this channel should be configured the same way :D
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<Kubuxu>
lgierth: as an experiment I disabled bloom cache on netpute
<Kubuxu>
to check how iARC cache behaves without bloom in front
<pinkieval>
cjd: with your solution, some users who are not in the nick list can see the traffic
<cjd>
yes
<cjd>
but they can anyway, they just look at the logs
<pinkieval>
not if the channel is not logged
<pinkieval>
publicly
<cjd>
that's not a security model
<cjd>
it's offering false sense of security if anything
<r0kk3rz>
any member can be secretly logging the channel anyway
<Kubuxu>
Yup
* Kubuxu
checks size of his ~/.weechat/logs directory.
<Kubuxu>
Just under 500MiB
<r0kk3rz>
i just think its silly that eg. im on irc, someone thinks their idling a channel on matrix, except i cant see them to easily highlight them
<cjd>
Right but you don't care anyway because you filter the quit/joins, it just kills conversation so it does matter to the channel owners
<Kubuxu>
If someone is affected by the join flood,
<Kubuxu>
they should use better smart filter.
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<r0kk3rz>
i also think its silly that you should break a normative case to cover for an exception case
<r0kk3rz>
a better idea is get these matrix people to stop breaking their shit
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<Mateon1>
Kubuxu: Smart filters require changing your client, AFAIK only Weechat supports join/leave filtering
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<sdgathman>
Mateon1: Pidgin has a plugin for Join/Part Hiding
<Mateon1>
sdgathman: Well, I only use irssi over SSH and Thunderbird, and I don't want to hide ALL joins and parts. I believe the smart filter only shows join/parts for people who said something recently.
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<sdgathman>
Same with pidgin plugin. "Hides extraneous join/part messages."
<sdgathman>
"Except those users taking part in an active conversation."
<apiarian>
haad: https://github.com/attic-labs/noms seen this? (haven't dug deep into it, but it says decentralized database which immediately associates with orbit-db in my head)
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<keks>
actually that looks a bit like the orbit log
<keks>
at least supeficially
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<Mateon1>
I have a question regarding the JS side of IPFS; what is the dependency policy? For example, 'ipfs-daemon' on npm uses a .sh post-install script, which doesn't work on Windows, all it does is rm -rf's a few directories. That needs to be rewritten in JS, but my question is: Should I use a package specifically for that (like 'del', leading to a 'left-pad' situation), or should I write that function myself (leading to possible errors in implementation).
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<haad>
Mateon1: generally it's preferred not to include .sh scripts (due to what you desribed). a good solution for that would be to write the .sh script in js so that npm can run it in 'postinstall'. the reason the sh script is there is to make sure there's no dangling versions of ipfs-api as ipfs-daemon specifically uses a custom version of js-ipfs-api, ipfsd-ctl and go-ipfs-dep. this is temp solution until we get pubsub into js-ipfs-api and go-ipfs-dep (latter requi
<haad>
Mateon1: a possible way to write it in js is to include rimraf package and write a small script that runs rimraf (rm -rf) on given directories (as they are in that .sh script now)
<Mateon1>
haad: I know that the .sh needs to be rewritten to .js, but my question was, should I use a package like 'del' to simulate `rm -rf`, or should I write my own `deleteRecursive()` function.
<haad>
Mateon1: oh ok, in that case I would recommend 'rimraf' (and include it as devDependency)
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<Mateon1>
Actually, wasn't rimraf marked obsolete? I read something like that on a Stackoverflow post
<Mateon1>
deprecated*
<haad>
not sure about that
<Mateon1>
Ah, no, that was 'gulp-rimraf' deprecated in favor of 'del'
<victorbjelkholm>
Mateon1, doesn't seem like it, at least based on the github repo/package.json
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<kegan[m]>
personally I would recommend https://github.com/shelljs/shelljs to avoid a million tiny dependencies the moment you decide you want to make directories in a portable way, etc and the actual API is extremely unix-like so provided you know the unix commands it will work as you expect (without having to then follow a million tiny API docs to find out exactly what `glob: true` will do)
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<whyrusleeping>
gooood morning friends
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<whyrusleeping>
i'm slowly getting back into schedule
<A124>
kevina Thanks, Was reading the discussion. There shall be an ability to have both write and read-write stores. Caching of each store should be handled possibly by the store, or if there is global mechanism a switch to cache/not cache globally. And ... an optional bloom that wraps all stores at once, would give performance benefit.
<A124>
Cache data store. If one wishes to store a lot of text-like entries, one would like to reduce the size of those entries likely. That gives questions about compression. If they are object, as unless I'm mistaken, those go to datastore.
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<A124>
whyrusleeping Speacial charge only cable is handy too.
<whyrusleeping>
A124: yeah, although hard to keep track of
<whyrusleeping>
unless you mean the charger thats attached to the cable
<A124>
I mean literaly USB cable.
<A124>
Most people carry one around to charge. It is not easy to find one though.
<whyrusleeping>
a usb cable thats gimped so it only has power pins?
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<A124>
Yes, that. Alternatively one can make USB adapter (in-between), that does exactly that, and also can have inductance and capacitance (RC), fuse, ... to give better quality power from crap sources, and resistors to imitate chargers. So USB3 will charge like a charger, not like USB2
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<SNAFUdowser>
Hello all! I’m having trouble using `js-ipfs-api` in the browser with webpack. Related: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/issues/389 - I’ve fixed readFileSync errors with brfs, but now I’m having issues with forge.js. Has anyone faced this before? Thank you!
<A124>
Someone did, forgot who.
<uuu_john>
fs.readFileSync in the browser shouldn't work by design
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<SNAFUdowser>
Specifically my issue is `forge.js` is throwing an error `Uncaught ReferenceError: Invalid left-hand side in assignment` which seems to be related to https://github.com/digitalbazaar/forge/issues/198
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<SNAFUdowser>
After a bunch of banging my head against the wall I figured out how to get past the readFileSync issue :)
<uuu_john>
I don't know if this helps, but I don't require js-ipfs in webpack-ed code. I usually put it in the global namespace and pass around the ipfs object
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<keks>
whyrusleeping: I commented on the floodsub thingy, maybe we can talk about that later? like, in 1-2hours?
<SNAFUdowser>
uuu_john: Ah that's interesting. If I can't fix this forge issue I'll consider just including it globally--good backup option. Thank you!
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<kevina>
whyrusleeping: based on the way I _think_ multiple directories are passed via the API I am not 100% this can be fixed without changing the API
<kevina>
That is the API to pass files and directories over HTTP
<kevina>
We might need something more than just the IsRoot() method you tried to implement
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<whyrusleeping>
Why would we need more than that?
<whyrusleeping>
well, we need IsRoot and absolute pathnames on the roots i think
<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: looks like nodes are asked about the same hashes all the time.
<whyrusleeping>
yeah?
<Kubuxu>
Or not
<Kubuxu>
I just made the ARC cache enormous.
<Kubuxu>
65k entries
<Kubuxu>
which gives 126k total
<Kubuxu>
which gives 128k total
<richardlitt>
Thanks, whoever reset the topic in here. :)
<richardlitt>
Probably you, Kubuxu
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<Kubuxu>
not me
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<richardlitt>
ok :) Well, thanks someone! :D
<kumavis>
playing with node js-libp2p-pstn and js-libp2p-floodsub, seeing weird behavior
<kumavis>
anyone familiar with these?
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<kevina>
whyrusleeping: so https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3300 is becoming complicated, see my notes. Still willing to try to implement something once we agree on what I am implementing. :)
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