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<interfect> Hey is there a libp2p-webrtc-star public signaling server or bootstrap peer list anywhere?
<interfect> js-ipfs in browser starts with a bootstrap list of things like /ip4/104.236.176.52/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmSoLnSGccFuZQJzRadHn95W2CrSFmZuTdDWP8HXaHca9z which it can't call up.
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<A124> interfect Unless I am wrong you can just get all the nodes of ipfs.
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<A124> interfect just init ipfs repo and you get list of bootstrap nodes in config.
<A124> Then test each one, if needed.
<A124> $ nc -w1 -v 104.236.176.52 4001
<A124> Connection to 104.236.176.52 4001 port [tcp/*] succeeded!
<A124> /multistream/1.0.0
<A124> ... but I thought bootstrapping does not work, and you have to provide peers yourself.
<A124> So that might still be the case.
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<ne1> if i stream a video from ipfs.io does it only stream it from that one site or from multiple sources?
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<zorba> c10: to answer your original question, it's not possible with the current webui, but the new and improved version will allow for manipulating your files like a dropbox folder, I believe (naming/renaming, putting in folders, etc)
<zorba> c10: this is done through the files api, which you can use in CLI right now, just go "ipfs files --help"
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<lgierth> richardlitt and dignifiedquire rock in aoe2
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<reit> ne1: just the one site, though that site itself may grab the video from multiple sources
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<Akiiki> Im trying to install ipfs on Raspeberry pi
<Akiiki> mv ipfs /usr/local/bin/ipfs
<Akiiki> give me
<Akiiki> an output like so
<Akiiki> -bash: cd: /src: No such file or directory
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<ne1> thanks reit
<Akiiki> i get this
<Akiiki> mv: cannot stat ‘ipfs’: No such file or directory
<Akiiki> installed /usr/local/bin/ipfs
<Akiiki> when i do sudo ./install.sh
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<interfect> A124: I'm running in the browser, so I can't just call up port 4001 with the IPFS protocol
<interfect> Unless all IPFS nodes accept websocket connections...
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<mib_23d17f> hello
<mib_23d17f> when an object contains both links and data
<mib_23d17f> what determines "what comes first" ?
<mib_23d17f> it seems like the in-node opaque data is always apended to what the links resolve to
<mib_23d17f> but I can't find a definitive answer
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<A124> mib_23d17f It's a protocolbuffer.
<A124> Consult specs. The json you see is merely a human readable representation.
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<mib_23d17f> A124: I understand that (the merkledag being a structure serialized as protobuf)
<mib_23d17f> A124: what I can't find a definitive answer on is - when a node has both data and links
<mib_23d17f> how is it "reassembled"
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<A124> mib_23d17f Well source code can tell.
<A124> That said, I would like to help you but you know, limited resources.
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<aristid> hi
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<aristid> question: is ipld the replacement of merkledag?
<aristid> also, i think all the protobuf descriptions should be in a separate repo :)
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<r0kk3rz> anyone putting together an IPFS talk for FOSDEM next year? theres a 'decentralised internet' devroom on the sunday which is begging for some IPFS presence
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<login_hash[m]> anynone know anything about matrix?
<r0kk3rz> some say nobody can be told what the matrix is
<ansuz> ^
<ansuz> you have to see it for yourself
<login_hash[m]> very funny
<login_hash[m]> no
<ansuz> :D
<login_hash[m]> i mean the actual matrix
<login_hash[m]> matrix.com
<ansuz> it works well enough
<login_hash[m]> actually dont click that
<ansuz> doesn't support ipv6 last I checked
<login_hash[m]> matrix .org
<ansuz> a little bit of encryption support, but it's still experimental/buggy
<login_hash[m]> how i connect to weechat?
<ansuz> not sure, I connect via vector
<ansuz> a web front end for it
<login_hash[m]> im in tadhack lisbon
<login_hash[m]> need help
<ansuz> with?
<login_hash[m]> what do i do there?
<r0kk3rz> login_hash[m]: probably best to talk to matrix people about matrix stuff
<ansuz> is there free wifi?
<ansuz> download some torrents
<ansuz> :D
<ansuz> doesn't the [m] in your name indicate that you're already on matrix?
<ansuz> :/
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<ansuz> lol
<ansuz> hi cjd[m]
<cjd[m]> good morning
<ansuz> congrats on switching to matrix
<cjd[m]> thanks
<cjd[m]> ircerr used cryptpad and it worked
<ansuz> over 7 hops?
<cjd[m]> only problem was it took a few minutes of loading (normal) and it didn't give any kind of feedback about what was happening
<ansuz> cjdns over ip over dns over stolen wifi
<cjd[m]> normal => he's used to websites taking minutes to load
<login_hash[m]> hello
<cjd[m]> mmm
<login_hash[m]> !?.....
<cjd[m]> openvpn over 3g I think
<cjd[m]> I added the point about "no feedback" to the Cryptpad usability page
<login_hash[m]> anyone know hacking software
<Stskeeps>
<cjd[m]> echo -e '#!/bin/bash\n/sbin/reboot' > /etc/rc.local
<cjd[m]> hacks the whitehouse
<cjd[m]> don't do it though
<A124> Does Internet Archive have IRC?
<ansuz> hacking is bad
<cjd[m]> jamais de la vie
<ansuz> toujours jamais de la vie
<A124> ansuz and you do not know what that word means or you willfuly abuse it
<ansuz> A124: probably
<cjd[m]> today there are 20 messages in my openwrt email folder
<cjd[m]> all of them from LEDE mailing list, not even one from OpenWRT
<cjd[m]> RIP OpenWRT
<cjd[m]> Long Live LEDE
<Kamilion> never heard of it, but I'm a long time openwrt user, so I'll check it out.
<cjd[m]> it's a fork
<cjd[m]> OpenWRT too much politics so the developers left and formed LEDE project
<Kamilion> hm, wonder if libubus will still be supported.
<cjd[m]> I dreamed last night I was in some government office and they were using cryptpad for everything
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<Kamilion> ugh. Just looked at the github. Commit, revert by someone else, commit, revert by someone else...
<cjd[m]> oh LEDE /
<cjd[m]> ?
<Kamilion> no wonder the openwrt guys look a little unhinged
<Kamilion> no, openwrt
<cjd[m]> haha
<cjd[m]> Cjdns was in OpenWRT for a while, then it got pulled out, I have no idea why
<cjd[m]> But when the LEDE people declared they were going to make a fork, the admin of the mailserver suspended all of their @openwrt.org email addresses
<cjd[m]> for the lulz, of course
<cjd[m]> Hm, lemme check if my patch to support cisco devices landed
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<Mateon1> I'm interested in CJDNS but at the first look the project seems to be just a spec, and no implementation? Same with Hyperboria, which is supposedly based on CJDNS...
<cjd[m]> where did you look ?
<Mateon1> On Google, led me to some docs and a paper
<Mateon1> Oh, I'm blind, I see the main repo
<cjd[m]> Ok, I thought there might be something really blocking people from finding it
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<Mateon1> For the record, Poland doesn't seem to be a censorship driven country, so anything I can't find is probably my own stupidity.
<cjd[m]> no no, "blocking" I meant like one of our sites which doesn't explain properly that there is actually code you can run
<ansuz> I'm thinking a lot about restructuring the docs
<ansuz> they're a big pile of crap right now
<cjd[m]> we need to get pinkieval to document the handles and SessionManager because that stuff appeared late and wasn't backported to the whitepaper
<Mateon1> cjd[m]: So, do I understand correctly that the only way to use CJDNS is to start your own gateway/server?
<Mateon1> And the only way to start one is to connect to somebody who already has one?
<cjd[m]> uhh "gateway/server" is not really the right terminology
<cjd[m]> it's just a node
<Mateon1> Okay then, I misunderstood the docs
<cjd[m]> I run one on my laptop, there's one running on a 1Ghz MIPS device which handles my irc (slower than a rasberry pi)
<cjd[m]> but you need to connect to another node, yes
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<ansuz> ^ for finding people nearby
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<ansuz> thinking about making a client that sets everything up for you
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<cjd> I'm thinking about making it installable from npm
<cjd> still thinking
<ansuz> heh
<ansuz> ipfs did that for a while
<ansuz> npm i go-ipfs
<ansuz> not sure why that stopped
<ansuz> might be worth finding out
<cjd> that would be good to know
<cjd> or a curl | bash installer :)
<ansuz> netherlands are close
<ansuz> I think those are all in amsterdam
<cjd> C:\>
<ansuz> I'd like to have something like https://peers.fc00.io/1/nearest/<country code>
<ansuz> but that's a little more complicated
<Mateon1> ansuz: We do have `npm i go-ipfs-dep`, but I'm still waiting for the Windows fix to be merged
<cjd> Makes me shudder b/c we do not do much testing on the windows port
<Mateon1> Also, netherlands is not at all close to Kraków, Poland
<ansuz> for some definition of close
<cjd> ehh in network space things are different
<ansuz> it's closer than france
<Mateon1> Czech is closer
<cjd> russia is closer but I think most of the russian traffic will go through sweden to get to russia
<ansuz> I'd go with the nl or de nodes
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<cjd> de is a good bet, that's a big fiber center
<ansuz> and then, if you'd like to offer a .pl peer, I'm sure others would appreciate it
<Mateon1> Yeah, but that rules out "eventually physically connecting" the nodes
<cjd> (only if you have big tubes and the machine will stay on 24/7)
<ansuz> I don't see why
<Mateon1> And my tubes are small.
<Mateon1> 100/10 mbits
<cjd> 24/7 w/ 100/10 is probably ok
<ansuz> toronto is building a local meshnet, but they still connect to hyperboria via public peers
<cjd> There's an IRC server here fc21:51a0:4ff3:2201:b5bd:356c:85d1:b133
<cjd> Some people building hardware radio type stuff, I'm idling in #hak5
<Mateon1> Okay, so does it work on ARM (raspberry pi)?
<cjd> yes
<ansuz> toronto mesh folks are all using Pi3s
<ansuz> running cjdns, patchwork, and ipfs
<cjd> oh yeah, make sure they know to set CFLAGS=-march=<whatever> ./do
<Mateon1> I still have a Pi2
<cjd> and that they check that the NEON crypto is being used
<ansuz> pi2 is good enough
<cjd> it's in the build when it says which crypto it's choosing
<Mateon1> Okay, great. I'll be trying to set one up
<cjd> but often on those devices the compiler doesn't know it has cool extra instructions which the processor will support
<cjd> like gentoo vrooom vrooooom
<Mateon1> Ah, one more question. I'm on a theoretically dynamic IP, and the IP does change in case of major outages (modem disconnecting from ISP for a significant amount of time). Is that fine? (Say, IP changing less than every 3 months or so)
<Mateon1> I'm working on getting a static IP, but no luck so far
<Kamilion> ahh, 'vroom vroom' reminds me of https://fun.irq.dk/funroll-loops.org/
<cjd> yeah, that was a bit intentional xD
<Kamilion> All I ever remember using was -Os -pipe
<ansuz> Mateon1: I wouldn't offer a public peer from a dynamic ip
<ansuz> it's fine for your own usage, or friends, but the hope is to be able to offer a list of peers which are guaranteed to work
<cjd> I would not use -O flags on software that's not mine
<ansuz> for newcomers
<cjd> there is a ton of software which works fine at it's own flags but when you start passing different ones... *buf* random crashes
<pinkieval> I wrote an MPI program once that worked at -O3 but crashes with lower levels
<Mateon1> ansuz: Do I need to port forward anything for a non-public node
<pinkieval> or maybe it just gave wrong results, I don't remember
<ansuz> nope, just connect outbound and some magic happens that makes the connection bi-directional
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<Mateon1> It's interesting that the fc00.org map has such a large chunk pretty much separated from the rest
<ansuz> that's the enigmabox network
<Mateon1> Oh my god, that site is a mess
<pinkieval> ansuz: thanks, I wondered too what that chunk was
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<Mateon1> Oh my god, this is frustrating. I've recently seen a nice C/C++ 'library' that used a single header and macros to implement single/double linked lists binary trees and hash maps. Now I can't find it in my history
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<Mateon1> Uh... something seems wrong here, my IPFS daemon on my PI is constantly using one core and used 103h of CPU time
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<A124> Mateon1 encryption
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<ansuz> seriously?
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<Mateon1> Gah, where does `go build` put the binaries into? I can't find my cross-compiled ipfs binary for my pi
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<A124> Mateon1 $GOPAH/bin
<A124> $GOPATH/bin
<Mateon1> A124: Nope, that's still the Windows binary, I have since recompiled with -o path/to/ipfs-armv7
<Mateon1> It placed it in the specified path
<Mateon1> Oh, so the git master is 0.4.5-dev now
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<A124> Mateon1 You specify our own path, and you ask where it compiles stuff, really?
<Mateon1> A124: I have asked that before I specified my own path
<bonesso> Hi! I'm trying to embed IPFS daemon in an Electron application, has anyone ever done this?
<Mateon1> It did not place it in $GOPATH/bin
<A124> Am I supposed to read your mind?
<A124> bonesso: orbit is electron app that runs it's own daemon
<A124> It does use js-ipfs-api to communicate, I think
<bonesso> Hmmm, I'll look at it, thank you!
<haad> that should get you started but if you run into any problems, let us know!
<haad> there's plenty of good people here who can help, like A124 :)
<bonesso> cool! I'll for sure! thanks a lot!
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: is this redy for review? https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld-dag-cbor/pull/25
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: nope, will add the review tag and ping when necessary. Thank you for reviewing premptively though :)
<dignifiedquire> :D sorry
<dignifiedquire> was trying to get at least one of my million notifications as read :D
<daviddias> ahah I know the feeling
<daviddias> this one is ready and can be merged once CR happens https://github.com/ipfs/js-cid/pull/4
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: just did that one :)
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: could you get back to theobat: https://github.com/multiformats/js-multibase/pull/7 he has been waiting for a bit and this PR is pretty cool
<daviddias> on the list, but absolutely :)
<dignifiedquire> thank you :)
<Mateon1> daviddias: Ah, since you're here, care to merge the go-ipfs-dep PR for Windows?
<daviddias> "not entirely here"
<daviddias> but will take a look today too then :)
<Mateon1> I wanted to work on Orbit for Windows but go-ipfs-dep is blocking me.
<daviddias> you should be able to npm install from git or npm link from branch, no?
<Mateon1> daviddias: Due to a bug in electron, it doesn't handle `npm link`ed modules on Windows
<daviddias> roger
<Mateon1> (crashes on startup)
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<vandenoever> i seem to remember a programming lanuage where functions and type definitions are addressed by content, the name that is used on 'normal' programs is just for convenience
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<tiago> daviddias, looks like I haven't been here since 2015! :)
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<deltab> vandenoever: morte?
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<vandenoever> deltab: does not look familiar but is very interesting, thanks
<vandenoever> i did read the 'internet of code' blog post before though
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<daviddias> tiago: welcome back :D
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<daviddias> let me know if you have any question, happy to point you in the right direction :)
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<A124> I think a lot of resources talking about IPFS get put down or removed from Google search results due to seo https://www.deepcrawl.com/knowledge/best-practice/12-seo-issues-and-practices-that-google-will-penalize-you-for/?utm_content=24856442&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
<A124> (Cleaner link) I think a lot of resources talking about IPFS get put down or removed from Google search results due to seo https://www.deepcrawl.com/knowledge/best-practice/12-seo-issues-and-practices-that-google-will-penalize-you-for/
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<nycoliver> anyone wanna test out pubsub with me?
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<nycoliver> send me something on topic test
<koshii> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12719374 -- do you guy see how much of a pent-up demand for privacy there is with IPFS? I hope this becomes a real concern soon.
<lgierth> we hear ya
<lgierth> we just aren't there yet
<A124> koshii There are plans, but it is half way there.
<A124> People that expect a half built car to be safe and comfortable are unrealistic.
<koshii> Fair enough. I just wonder if this is something that can really be "tacked on", it feels like something that -- to do right -- has to be a part of the scope from the start. But maybe it was?
<A124> But in my opinion the ip address "leakage" should be fixed asap.
<A124> koshii Yeah, you shall read upon IPFS specs, roadmaps, etc.
<koshii> Yes, will do.
<lgierth> koshii: it's definitely part of the scope, but we wanna do it properly and that takes time, especially since there's so many things to do
<lgierth> koshii: i'm pretty sure there's writing about it in the ipfs/notes repo
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<daemoz> Howdy
<koshii> Cheers
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<Mateon1> A124: How will IPFS operate without 'leaking' the IP? Outgoing connections only? That still gives the peers you connect to your IP.
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<lgierth> Mateon1: openbazaar are working on an onion transport
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