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<kevina> whyrusleeping: if you are around, how do I convert from a Cid() to a DsKey() now?
<kevina> nevermind found it: dshelp.NewKeyFromBinary(k.KeyString())
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<kvt> hi, is it just me that uploads are not done or does anyone else have this issue? I've been trying to upload a file but it just keeps going to the lobster.
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<nycoliver> Hey https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/issues/368 is really blocking me
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<nycoliver> I wanna create an object linking to multiple files
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<nycoliver> So I do files.add, then object.get to pass to DAGNode.addNodeLink
<nycoliver> But the object returned by object.get results in internalWebError: unexpected EOF
<nycoliver> Is there some other way to do this?
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<A124> nycoliver object.patch?
<A124> You take empty directory object and add the files there.
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<A124> Umm... we are having problems in Windows.
<A124> Resource loadable via local gateway (albeit slow), but pin add hangs.
<A124> Are there any directions, maybe about optimizing tcp stack or so?
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<Mateon1> Hi, I want to ask about the file chunking in IPFS. I just watched a talk from about a year ago, mentioning that there were better chunking algorithms for dedup planned. Is that still in the plans?
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<A124> Mateon1 Depends on what it is. For video, unless that video is losslessly cut, it changes nothing.
<A124> For example pure text documents, uncompressed, it does. So given current state of things, and the low ammount of text documents, it is still future, as first it needs to be high performance and be able to handle millions of files to even matter.
<A124> Basically all html/text, javascript, etc.
<Mateon1> A124: Well, obviously compressed things wouldn't be affected much. Somebody gave a live demo at battlemesh v8 (I think) and mentioned that even the "brain dead" split at an interval algorithm deduped a lot of data in firmware images, and mentioned that a better algorithm is planned or something like that
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<Mateon1> The current chunking algorithm is pretty much useless, even if a lot of data is shared - consider mirroring a website (like xkcd), a lot of HTML files will share the exact same structure, with the only difference being the comic number, title and links to other comics.
<Mateon1> Right now, absolutely no deduplication happens, because the index files are smaller than 256k
<Mateon1> A124: Here's a directory with a bunch of xkcd mirrors at various points in time https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmYXNP2BvmW8k7iLzzHFHAastdHvGgakcZMQrZuKStEFJP - Compare a random index.html file at various points in time (via ipfs object diff) or something, and you'll see minor changes in Javascript over time
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<A124> Mateon1 Compressed data, unless made specificaly for dedup will dedup badly. But yeah. if the files are small its not as important now
<A124> And images will be stored only once anyways.
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<Mateon1> That's not exactly my point, if a single byte changes between two files, the surrounding 256k have to be duplicated, and usually with changes between versions, butes change more densely than every 256k, leading to essentially no dedup even though a lot of data may be shared
<Mateon1> Also, sorry for my slow typing but i'm typing on my phone over VNC
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<johnytiago> Hey guys, I was trying to hack around IPFS and I was wondering if I would be able to run an IPFSs client on the browser without having to force the client to do any installation, is this possible?
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<Mateon1> johnytiago: Yes, kindof - Look at js-ipfs
<Mateon1> It's made for node, but you can use webpack or browserify or something to make it work on the browser
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<A124> Yep, but every block is currently file on disk.
<A124> So a hybrid datastore needs to be there, that would work more like a database.
<A124> Simply put a think to do, but not a think to hurry up
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<keks> whyrusleeping: test work again. f.Flush() does not return an error, that was the problem
<johnytiago> Thanks a lot Mateon1! I will try that! :)
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<ansuz> 15:40:09.057 ERROR core/serve: Path Resolve error: merkledag: not found gateway_handler.go:509
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<ansuz> no more webui?
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<ansuz> ahh, it fails in --offline mode
<ansuz> at least the first time
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<kobigurk> A124: did the API CORS work eventually?
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<c10> Hello I just installed my first node on my home linux box. I have accessed the web portal and see the hash files listed. How do I add a file and locally see a human readable?
<c10> do I add a human readable local via CLI ? I guess if there is a link in git or IPFS website I would appreciate it.
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<c10> I found this on IPFS FAQ but it does not really help. https://github.com/ipfs/faq/issues/47
<c10> Is IRC the wrong place to ask questions?
<ansuz> no
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<ansuz> it's just not necessarily the place to get answers all the time
<ansuz> I don't have an answer, but somebody will respond eventually
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<c10> Thank you I like to properly use resources and communication properly
<c10> If I am making a noob mistake I take no offense if told to look elsewhere.
<ion> IRC is a fine place for questions, just be prepared to wait and ask again later if nobody's available to answer yet.
<c10> Understood thank you .
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<mib_231de632> hello
<c10> I am trying to verify if this is a good reference to
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<mib_231de632> is there some sort of "demo" of crafting your own dag nodes and serving them to the network?
<mib_231de632> the lower level version of ipfs add basically
<mib_231de632> was wondering if there is a writeup on that somewhere already (perhaps an integration test?) before I dig into RTFS
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<c10> Well it looks like I found the spot in Git for self help I apparently did not go deep enough.
<kulelu88> Is there an ongoing project to create a p2p github?
<c10> I wonder if that is necessary in the spirit of Open to everyone policy available on Git?
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<kulelu88> c10: what does your question mean?
<c10> is p2p valuable for github?
<kulelu88> c10: it's not about creating a p2p for github, but more about creating a p2p for git project hosting
<c10> Kulelu88 I see I missunderstood.
<mib_231de632> hmmm... so given something as simple as https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmQpeUrxtQE5N2SVog1ZCxd7c7RN4fBNQu5aLwkk5RY9ER
<mib_231de632> ipfs object get
<mib_231de632> returns
<mib_231de632> {"Links":[],"Data":"\u0008\u0002\u0012\u0003abc\u0018\u0003"}
<mib_231de632> what are the 4 bytes before and the 2 bytes after...?
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<ansuz> not built on ipfs, though
<ansuz> similar concepts
<dansup> hey mr kardashian
<ansuz> hi dansup
<ansuz> idk what's up today, but a bunch of people started following me on twitter
<ansuz> I now have more followers on twitter than I do on patchwork
<kulelu88> mr kardashian???
<ansuz> hi
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<ansuz> tfw the kardashians use ipfs
<ansuz> D:
<ansuz> it might be because someone pointed rewriteitinrust.com to my blag
<ansuz> idk
<kulelu88> are you really a kardashian??? :D
<ansuz> sure, why not
<ansuz> it doesn't seem that hard
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<kardashian> tadaa
<ansuz> ^
<ansuz> https://twitter.com/fc00ansuz/ <- c'est moi
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<ansuz> hi keks
<kulelu88> oh wow, that SSB project looks awesome
<keks> hi ansuz
<ansuz> kulelu88: it's pretty dope
<ansuz> lots of its users are also ipfs users
<ansuz> me, for instance
<ansuz> also lots of overlap with the cjdns community
<TheKysek> Client: HexChat 2.12.1 • OS: Fedora release 24 (Twenty Four) • CPU: AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor (3,81GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7,6 GiB Total (4,8 GiB Free) Swap: 7,7 GiB Total (7,7 GiB Free) • Storage: 106,9 GB / 199,8 GB (92,9 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 760] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD9x0/RX980 Host Bridge • Uptime: 1h 16m 9s
<ansuz> wat
<TheKysek> just messing with HexChat
<TheKysek> please ignore ;P
<ansuz> hexchat is a gateway drug
<ansuz> soon you'll be using irssi
<kulelu88> ansuz: the URL for the repo is hard to read though
<kulelu88> patchwork looks awesome also
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<ansuz> yea, I like it
<ansuz> I've gotten partway through writing a new blag post about it
<ansuz> I did one a while ago, but it needs an update
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<dansup> ansuz, heh
<dansup> i didnt know patchwork would use that much storage space
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<ansuz> I worry more about network usage
<ansuz> I have lots and lots of disk space
<ansuz> not so much network
<ansuz> dansup: are you on patchwork now, then?
<ansuz> I didn't see you
<sdgathman> 2T drives are cheap, and linux supports both RAID and SAN (so you can dedicate a PC to running RAID arrays).
<ansuz> cheap-ish
<Mateon1> ansuz: Not sure why, but when reading your blog a lot of your .jpg files arrive to me corrupted, and only after a bunch of refreshes they look okay.
<ansuz> interesting
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<ansuz> I think I might have written the fileserver myself
<ansuz> so it's probably super buggy
<ansuz> NIH is my hobby
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<ansuz> yea
<ansuz> I'd call that a feature
<ansuz> :D
<ansuz> it's... glitch art
<ansuz> thanks for the report, though
<ansuz> I'll get around to doing something about it
<Mateon1> ansuz: It seems to glitch only on a select set of bytes/locations in the image, so it's probably something like having a bad block read
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<Mateon1> (Excuse me while I spam your server with requests for that image :P)
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<ansuz> :D
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<Mateon1> ansuz: Or it's some sort of issue on my side: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmQT83HpT6ffWjH4o2b73Jg7kJFvXFjZvbQNC5RJZ5WfZY
<Mateon1> I need to call my ISP
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<ansuz> well, I'm a known terrorist, so they're probably blocking me
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<Mateon1> Well, that was a request to the npm registry..
<Mateon1> So it's probably something on my side
<Mateon1> (Also, I haven't had any censorship issues with my ISP, even with massive torrenting, they had some issues with wiring in my area though).
<dansup> ansuz, no I am not. Just reading your /howto/patchwork
<ansuz> dansup: I'm up to 1.5GB storage
<ansuz> but I follow a lot of people
<ansuz> and subscribe to to channels with lots of pretty pictures
<dansup> oh wow, the socialnode database was about 200mb~ after 3 years and 12k statuses.
<dansup> will the storage continue growing or can you set a limit? delete old posts?
<ansuz> they've split up blob storage and message storage
<ansuz> most of that is blobs, I think
<ansuz> socialno.de only ever supported avatars for uploads, right?
<ansuz> storage was on urlcloud
<ansuz> I think there's a way to clean it up, but I've never bothered
<ansuz> still lots of disk left
<ansuz> I bought a new TB today
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<mib_231de632> so... any word on my question?
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<mib_231de632> ipfs object get QmQpeUrxtQE5N2SVog1ZCxd7c7RN4fBNQu5aLwkk5RY9ER
<mib_231de632> returns data with 4 bytes prepended - where are these documented?
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<Mateon3> mib_231de632: That's part of the unixfs format, but I can't tell you much about it
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<mib_231de632> a-ha...
<mib_231de632> so... http://ipfs.io/ipfs/<hash> actually is a unixfs browser
<mib_231de632> not a raw blob browser?
<mib_231de632> ( it clearly strips the unixfs header... )
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<Mateon1> Can I ask for somebody to put https://nodejs.org/dist/v6.8.1/node-v6.8.1-linux-armv7l.tar.xz on IPFS? (check sha512sum to be 4db9a3...65125f) - I'm having major network issues at the moment and IPFS seems to be the only way to get files with valid contents
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<dansup> ansuz, no, it used to allow image/video uploads but the new version will use ipfs/local storage
<ansuz> neat
<dansup> ansuz, the UI got a bit of a refresh, hope it will be out soon. https://cl.ly/3V1D0Q3I0h1F
<ansuz> same bug as last time
<ansuz> nothing happens when I click 'follow'
<mib_231de632> Mateon1: the sha512 of this is e8634dc376...bc603ff8cad4c4828
<ansuz> plz fix
<Mateon1> mib_231de632: Okay, that means that they mixed up sha512 with sha256 in their hashes file
<mib_231de632> indeed the sha256 is as you asked
<mib_231de632> let me see...
<Mateon1> Okay, could you put it on IPFS?
<mib_231de632> Mateon1: QmZHJStArK5U8JpRT7owBNUW4nCvgJx52NRsCqt2aPJxfv
<Mateon1> Thanks
<mib_231de632> Mateon1: so... back to my stuff - is there a "raw blob" browser similar to ipfs.io/ipfs ?
<Mateon1> mib_231de632: If you have the daemon running, localhost:5001/webui gives you a web UI
<TheKysek> AFAIK only 'ipfs object get <hash>'
<Mateon1> It has a tab called "DAG"
<Mateon1> That allows to view the raw data on various objects
<mib_231de632> right, I know how to navigate these locally
<mib_231de632> I was more wondering: does the ipfs project itself run an (essentially 3rd party) raw gateway
<mib_231de632> or the unixfs one is the only public one currently
<Mateon1> Not as far as I know, but they could.
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<mib_231de632> a-ha!
<mib_231de632> Mateon1: thanks much
<mib_231de632> is this stuff documented anywhere at all, even in highly cryptic language?
<mib_231de632> or it's all RTFS at this point?
<Mateon1> The API endpoints are documented somewhere
<Mateon1> I'm not sure where, but I saw a big document listing them
<Mateon1> mib_231de632: This might contain the API docs: http://docs.ipfs.apiary.io/
<Mateon1> I'm not sure because my network fails as I try to load it
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<kulelu88> ansuz: how is the git-ssb hosted? is there a bunch of peers hosting it?
<ansuz> kulelu88: I joined patchwork, and followed a bunch of people, and they followed me back
<ansuz> so my ssb server is tracking those people
<kulelu88> ansuz: is that how it works?
<kulelu88> oh
<ansuz> if they push things, I automatically download them cause I'm following them
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<ansuz> it's in their feed, and ssb syncs feeds
<mib_231de632> Mateon1: indeed, that's partially what I need, thanks!
<mib_231de632> Mateon1: did you get the file ok? (the node thing)
<Mateon1> mib_231de632: Yep
<Mateon1> Thanks
<mib_231de632> cheers
<kulelu88> ansuz: so there is no starring or repos, etc. ?
<kulelu88> and what happens if my SSB is offline?
<Mateon1> kulelu88: If I understand properly, 'following' IS starring.
<Mateon1> or pinning.
<kulelu88> oh
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<ansuz> it's all friend of a friend, you sync everything someone posts if you follow them
<ansuz> that's subject to abuse, but you can always unfollow them if it gets to be too much
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<kulelu88> I can imagine if someone starts spamming ...
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<Mateon1> ansuz: Okay, I have after a bunch of mismatched hashes managed to install ssb-patchwork. It seems to do nothing, produces no output
<Mateon1> If I do patchwork --help it mentions graphs... What?
<ansuz> uhh
<ansuz> you probably grabbed the wrong package
<ansuz> it has lots of components
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<Mateon1> No, I'm sure I grabbed ssb-patchwork, but -- OH
<ansuz> https://ssbc.github.io/patchwork/ <-- instructions here
<Mateon1> `patchwork` is part of dot/graphviz
<ansuz> oh, idk
<ansuz> I installed from git
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<Mateon1> Okay, I got it running
<ansuz> oh, windows
<ansuz> good luck?
<Mateon1> Well, it works fine on Windows
<ansuz> :D
<Mateon1> Completely fine, to my surprise
<ansuz> you're braver than I am
<ansuz> so you need an invite
<ansuz> I guess
<Mateon1> Yeah, right now I'm going through that mismatched shasum process on my laptop so I can have a peer on my wifi :P
<ansuz> I'm PMing you an invite
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<ansuz> sent
<Mateon1> And connected :)
<ansuz> followed you
<Mateon1> I guess it's slowly syncing right now.
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<Mateon1> ansuz: It seems to be having trouble on my spotty network. - Anyway, where can I contribute translations? Do you have a transifex/something else, or just github PRs?
<ansuz> I started working on a pirate translation, but never PR'd it
<ansuz> I should do that
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<Mateon1> ansuz: Well, I think I found a bug... The web UI at :7777 stops working after a while
<Mateon1> It seems to happen after a couple of refreshes
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<Mateon1> Nevermind, it just takes forever to load when it has to download tons of data
<nycoliver> A124: I'm using object.patch, problem is I can't get the file object from files.add
<nycoliver> It returns a hash, but object.get(hash) returns a different, invalid object
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<ansuz> Mateon1: yea, I do a few things in headless mode so my processor doesn't need to do the crypto and the UI updates at the same time
<ansuz> ironically, I think the UI stuff takes more cpu than the crypto :D
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<nycoliver> Patchwork's approach to spam
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<ansuz> tradeoffs
<ansuz> in IPFS-land, you only get the things you ask for, but that keeps disk usage down
<ansuz> in ssb-land, you follow the person, and get everything they publish
<ansuz> I like having both approaches available, for different use cases
<Mateon1> I feel IPFS is more viable for things like large archives/websites, where users might only want to cache things they visited, and not a whole archive of gigabytes to terabytes in size.
<nycoliver> do you know what's happening with ipfs pubsub?
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<kulelu88> imagine trying to cache a youtube p2p option 0.o
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<ansuz> yea, lots of different ways to do p2p
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<Mateon1> IPFS would probably work amazing for Youtube
<Mateon1> ansuz: I'm having some issues with local discovery on Patchwork. I can see my laptop from my PC, but it doesn't see/list me.
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<ansuz> isn't somebody working on an ipfs-tube?
<dansup> Mateon1, im not sure about that, imagine how much it costs google to host that content. if good urls never die, how long would un-viral content last for?
<dansup> i can see popular youtubers using ipfs as distribution
<Mateon1> dansup: Content hosted on IPFS doesn't mean you don't need your own servers, it means you don't need your CDNs
<Mateon1> It would cost Google way less to keep only a couple of copies of videos around.
<dansup> Mateon1, yeah but hosting videos would be "expensive", 24 hours of video are uploaded to youtube per second or something like that
<ansuz> Mateon1: is it possible one of your devices has a firewall or something?
<Mateon1> ansuz: Not really, I don't have invasive AV software and my router runs OpenWRT
<ansuz> not sure, then
<ansuz> I make little tweaks to the source to fix crash bugs when I find them, but I haven't looked much into how it does local discovery
<dansup> i guess all an ipfs tube would be is a html5 compatible video player, unless you want to handle comments, channels, ect
<ansuz> it generally works for me
<Mateon1> ansuz: What displays as the original message on my "Test reply"?
<Mateon1> Apparently I have a unidirectional connection right now.. what?
<ansuz> I followed the other node, but I'm not getting anything
<ansuz> idk
<Mateon1> ansuz: Okay, then I'll join the pub, as this was a test of the local discovery thing
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<alu> 905 nicks wew lad
<ion> nice
<ion> I'm on only one channel with more
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