<apiarian>
ipfs.pics keeps its own db of metadata, right? so if there were instances of the stack running around the internet, they wouldn't know about each-others pics? also, sadly this thing that was linked last year is no longer available =/ https://twitter.com/IpfsPics/status/644254430561374208
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<whyrusleeping>
Akaibu: mmm, i've been wondering when that would happen
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<Akaibu>
whyrusleeping: i'll bite
<Akaibu>
wait, just took a look, may not be able to test it, still kinda new to actually using ipfs
<whyrusleeping>
oooh, no worries
<whyrusleeping>
we need someone who has a separate mounted drive they want to try adding entirely into ipfs
<whyrusleeping>
like a J:/ drive or something
<Akaibu>
whyrusleeping: try asking people on #datahoarder ?
<Akaibu>
they have tb's of raid X drives
<A124>
whyrusleeping When talking of adding whole drives, usually there is one or few files (lost+found) that yells about permissions and exits.
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<Akaibu>
anyone noticed the ~40 totally fake people on the channel with m- at the start of there name?
<geemili>
How do you know they're fake?
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<geemili>
What are the thoughts on Nebulis here?
<achin>
whyrusleeping: would a network mounted drive work for that test?
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<whyrusleeping>
A124: Akaibu i'm not worried about adding a lot of data
<whyrusleeping>
i just wanted someone to test that you could add 'X:/'
<whyrusleeping>
or whatever it is that that PR fixes
<whyrusleeping>
achin: yeah, anything would work
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<ShawkHawk[m]>
if i'm running ipfs on a digital ocean vps, how do I make it into a public gateway?
<whyrusleeping>
ShawkHawk[m]: change your gateway listener address in your config to 0.0.0.0
<ShawkHawk[m]>
great, thank you, let me try it
<ShawkHawk[m]>
what kind of security implications are there here?
<ShawkHawk[m]>
it's a vps so i don't consider it to be important at least for the moment
<whyrusleeping>
ShawkHawk[m]: people will be able to use your machine to pull content out of ipfs
<whyrusleeping>
that content will be cached on your node until you run a GC
<whyrusleeping>
(we don't have the auto GC working the way we want it to yet)
<ShawkHawk[m]>
but only i can control what gets added or pinned, correct? the only content that should leave my node is content i've pinned?
<ShawkHawk[m]>
or rather
<ShawkHawk[m]>
if anyone knows the public address
<ShawkHawk[m]>
they can use it to get things, and those things will be cached (but not pinned)
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<whyrusleeping>
correct
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<ShawkHawk[m]>
perfect, thank you
<ShawkHawk[m]>
this probabl isn't an ipfs question but how do i get it listening on port 80?
<ShawkHawk[m]>
it's erroring
<whyrusleeping>
yeah, you cant use ports below 1000 without being root
<whyrusleeping>
you should use something like nginx to reverse proxy port 80 back to 8080
<whyrusleeping>
i don't recommend running ipfs as root
<whyrusleeping>
(there are very few applications i recommend running as root)
<ShawkHawk[m]>
yes that's fair, i'll look into that, thanks
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<phpwner>
i'm trying to understand how IPFS works. if i add a completely unique file, will it get propagated across the network so that it is accessible even when my node is down?
<phpwner>
and if so, how long should i expect a file to be available on other nodes?
<phpwner>
until it is available*
<Mateon1>
phpwner: No, not automatically. When you add something to IPFS, your node hosts the content, and when somebody requests that content, they keep it in a cache and serve it to other people.
<ShawkHawk[m]>
phpwner: your file is served from your machine unless other people pin it
<ShawkHawk[m]>
although i'm willing to bet there are or will be countless bots that will be auto pinning things
<ShawkHawk[m]>
especially if/when there's ever an economic model attached
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<polezaivsani>
anyone have a clue whether unixfs encoding is to follow the switch from protobuf to cbor or not?
<Kubuxu>
polezaivsani: not right now, but cbor will be able to link to the protobuf
<polezaivsani>
Kubuxu, i see, thanks
<daviddias>
Good morning citizens of earth
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<dignifiedquire>
good morning citizens of all planets
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: how far did you get in setting up those sauce labs credentials?
<daviddias>
I got it working
<daviddias>
did it for js-cid
<daviddias>
with subaccount ipfs-js-cid
<daviddias>
of main account ipfs
<dignifiedquire>
want to start adding it to ALL THE REPOS? ;)
<dignifiedquire>
fixing the all branches issue right now
<daviddias>
happy to share the work load on that one, I understand how it can be boresome :)
<daviddias>
wanna add a column to the Async Crypto PR for that?
<dignifiedquire>
sure
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: added column
<daviddias>
thank you :)
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: btw, any tip on the tmpdir thing?
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<dignifiedquire>
haven't looked yet
<dignifiedquire>
just pushed some commit to js-cid and a new release for aegir which should fix the issue with tripple sauce tests
<daviddias>
copy paste one of the others, put it in the right week, add a Summary and tasks if you already have that milestone more detailed
<Kubuxu>
can I do it in the PR, or should I do a PR to the PR?
<daviddias>
you can commit it directly to that PR
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<Kubuxu>
daviddias: pushed, check it out
<daviddias>
thank you <3
<Kubuxu>
(ignore the typo in commit message :()
<daviddias>
well, you could have put that milestone in order xD
<daviddias>
I'll adjust it
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: can you setup sauce labs for the first four in the list? those are the ones I aim to ship today and they are pretty ready otherwise
<A124>
lidel Can we get an optional web-wide, or a list of servers to rewrite to localhost?
<lidel>
i have some kinks to iron out to get functional testing under different Firefox versions, hoping most of this work will be provided by mozilla: https://github.com/mozilla/web-ext/issues/5
<A124>
Thanks for that. Fetching is not as crucial, some gateways might want to be used. Maybe it should be optional checkmark to enable that.
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<A124>
Yes, I do, I installed it just now in different profile.
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: did you set up those sauce labs credentials? I don't have access to the account so can't do it myself
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: can you ping me when you are around?
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<geoah>
erm, what time (and timezone) is the libp2p sprint call thingie? :)
<geoah>
I'm trying to find the issue/page where they are listed but google ain't being helpful
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<lgierth>
geoah: ipfs/pm
<lgierth>
eeh ipfs/pm/issues
<geoah>
lgierth thanks! :D
<lemmi>
so i'm poling around and had the idea to setup a mirror for a distro with ipfs. so i'm searching for the most efficient way for a folder of the size of about 30G to replace single files and update a ipns entry. i'm thinking about using ipfs files to modify the repo, then ipfs stat / and using that hash to publish via ipns. are there better/other ways?
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<geoah>
btw; is it ok for anyone to lurk in the sprint hangouts?
<lgierth>
geoah: if you just wanna listen in it's best to use the youtube live stream
<lgierth>
it's posted here before each hangout
<geoah>
lgierth thanks again :)
<geoah>
I'll do that
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<dignifiedquire>
Kubuxu: are you around?
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<hsanjuan>
Kubuxu: is this maybe familiar to you? ../../../libp2p/go-tcp-transport/tcp.go:196: d.rd.DialContext undefined (type reuseport.Dialer has no field or method DialContext)
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<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, dignifiedquire, in documentation like readme.md, callbacks or promises?
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<flyingzumwalt>
dignifiedquire should I be doing any prep/setup for the IIIF anno demo on the all-hands call?
<victorbjelkholm>
feels callbacks would be the way to go
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, yeah, I knew about that (but thanks for the link), was just wondering what we preferred in the readme's and stuff
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<dignifiedquire>
ideally we would have both
<dignifiedquire>
or at least a note about it
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<dignifiedquire>
flyingzumwalt: I will be arriving super tight and I think I am moderating so I won't be able to prep, just make sure to pull the latest version and do fresh npm install
<dignifiedquire>
if it doesn't work I have my gif
<dignifiedquire>
haad: richardlitt are we having an orbit call today?
<daviddias>
dignifiedquire: mentioned that he will be only coming full tomorrow
<flyingzumwalt>
dignifiedquire I see you removed the instructions to run ipfs daemon with pubsub enabled. Is that not necessary any more for anno?
<flyingzumwalt>
dignifiedquire also - there's a typo in the repo description -- Mirador, not Mirandor
<flyingzumwalt>
dignifiedquire ah - i see that `npm serve` starts the ipfs daemon for you.
<flyingzumwalt>
dignifiedquire looks like there's a bug -- when I select an image to open in mirador it reverts back to the empty "add item" page instead of displaying the image. Error on the js console: `GET http://10.0.1.2:9966/node_modules/orbit-db/dist/orbitdb.js 404 (Not Found)`
<flyingzumwalt>
aha. it's because my node_modules has orbitdb.min.js, not orbitdb.js
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<richardlitt>
Woo
<richardlitt>
dignifiedquire: Ready?
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<richardlitt>
(Anyone seen dig in the past few minutes?)
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<flyingzumwalt>
he said he would be running late.
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<richardlitt>
Ah
<richardlitt>
Ok
<flyingzumwalt>
actually he said he would be "arriving super tight"
<lgierth>
on my way
<flyingzumwalt>
richardlitt have you posted the zoom link?
<richardlitt>
========================== IPFS Hangouts: All Hands Call =========================
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<daviddias>
I'm on a call with my ISP because they messed up my Gig fiber, will join in a sec
<daviddias>
(I really thought the call was in 45 mins)
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<richardlitt>
kk
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<geoah>
what's with the jazz hands?! :P
<richardlitt>
hahaha
<richardlitt>
It's an easy way to say that we agree, without needing to voice
<richardlitt>
Same with down hands, for disagreement
<geoah>
heh~ awesome! ^_^
<richardlitt>
:)
<richardlitt>
(Who are you? Are you streaming?)
<richardlitt>
(Are you Silverton?)
<lgierth>
richardlitt: no that's edsilv[m]
<geoah>
haha, nah I'm lurking in the youtube channel
<richardlitt>
Ah, sweet.
<lgierth>
electricity seems to be stable again now. looks like my flatmates finished messing with the wiring
<geoah>
I'm just trying to find ways to start being a bit more active in libp2p/ipfs and this seemed like a simple place to start and get to find something to tackle.
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<keks>
mutiny's over
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<richardlitt>
Optimum van literally drove into the driveway, set up their van, and then cut off the internet in the middle of the call for me
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<lgierth>
why?
<richardlitt>
Apparently routine maintenance.
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<geoah>
try making a new annotation
<geoah>
it should send the previous updates you made
<geoah>
(I'm not sure who matt in the sprint call is! :P)
<whyrusleeping>
matt == flyingzumwalt
<geoah>
whyrusleeping thanks :D
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<lgierth>
richardlitt: i moved the notes part up above the agenda because people editing stuff above that i was writing turned out to be super annoying, UX wise
<lgierth>
eeh UI wise
<richardlitt>
fair. I keep meaning to open an issue about how we take notes.
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, friendly reminder, my mic does not work, will write here if something comes up...
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<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, can't voice it :(
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, dignifiedquire would it make sense to create an issue for the js-ipfs-api builds failing and separate that from async crypto, not sure how it's related?
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, and aegir 9 is part of the async crypto stuff?
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<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, haven't started the mutable files stuff, but the dht I'll finish off
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, that's been fixed
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, the requiments in the readme have been fixed...
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, take a look in the issue
<victorbjelkholm>
you mentioned before that resolver already exists in js-land
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<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, write in the issue
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, depends, if the resolver is there, then yeah
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<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, then I'll probably not get to it this week, no :/
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<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, I think it was something we wanted to do in the future instead
<victorbjelkholm>
ah, nicola explains...
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, we'll have a small visual demo and some examples, but the fully featured playground, will have to wait
<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, it makes sense to have the website without playground, but it doesn't make sense to have the playground without the website, hence the website should have priority
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<victorbjelkholm>
daviddias, one kind of depends on the other though, take a look at the comment above...
<daviddias>
"website should have priority" agreed 👍
<A124>
Does anyone have plans how to handle content dependent chunking?
<A124>
Perhaps auto mode with heuristics to pick rolling chunker vs block chunker? As for all compressed material that would be useless.
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<A124>
I hit around a talk of a software using different polynomial then the usual Rabin chunker, will attempt to find and implement that, the advantage is better convergence, but at the cost of smaller chunks. Which might be wanted or not for space/metadata tradeoff.
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<lgierth>
A124: keyword: importers
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<lgierth>
right now there's a tar importer, and i'm not sure if there's a unixfs importer
<lgierth>
importers turn data into ipld
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<A124>
lgierth Thanks. Well, how does it handle the chunking then? I was speaking of a chunker. Not sure what role importer plays here.
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<lgierth>
an importer can select a different chunker as appropriate for the kind of data it's importing
<lgierth>
there are no concrete plans for new chunkers at the moment, but we're open for people contributing one, obviously
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<xo>
Is there any documentation on "seeding" on ipfs? I would like to be able to control what happens on my ipfs node. Also curious about "ipfs files rm" (docs are a little... sparse)
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<A124>
xo if the data is not cached (by looking at it), or pinned, it is not seeded.
<A124>
running repo gc cleans the current cache
<lgierth>
A124: speaking of chunkers, what's always useful is papers papers papers, if you have something in mind. and reference implementations help too
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<bcq>
do i need ipfs version 0.4.0-dev?
<bcq>
i am using ipfs version 0.4.4
<dignifiedquire>
bcq: yes registry-mirror is outdated, check out the PR on npm-on-ipfs for a somewhat working version, still wip though
<bcq>
i just need the npm registry to work is all
<xo>
@bcq: Under what circumstances will my ipfs node seed files from other nodes?
<lgierth>
dignifiedquire: wanna reference the PR in the readme if the PR will sit around longer?
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<lgierth>
cool sounds interesting -- wanna write that down in ipfs/notes/issues?
<A124>
That's all I got at the moment. The problem is not only to decide and implement, but also to decide what paramets the chunker will have so we can use that efficiently without much overhead .
<lgierth>
yeah word
<lgierth>
best to write it down in ipfs/notes
<A124>
Yeah, will look arount. I usualy hesitate writing stuff down unless I am sure.
<lgierth>
on irc it just drowns in a sea of noise
<lgierth>
ipfs/notes doesn't need finished proposal, everything there is either work-in-progress, braindumps, etc.
<A124>
That said, I am looking to use that or other chunker, but the compatibility is the thing that did raise a orange light in my head.
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<A124>
Plus the heuristics. Will try to rewrite and some PoC, and will file it. Thanks.
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<nycoliver>
No way to guarantee order of DAG node links, correct?
<M-hash>
I have qualms and questions about content dependent chunking, fwiw.
<M-hash>
it's tugging in the opposite direction of reproducible results across versions of the software, as the content detection changes... which it will, frequently, if it's trying to keep up with things "in the wild"
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<M-hash>
which is ironically Not Great for deduplication over longtime
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<A124>
M-hash That is already mentioned in the issue.
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<A124>
Well, the thing is... there is no point using that for compressed data.
<A124>
Unless that compressed data is not solid, in which case a magic thing to detect would work best. And as far as we are IPFS is not finalized, and I do not consider pre 0.5 even production viable.
<A124>
Sure, there are things where one does not want to break stuff, but given the exponentiality of growth, changing things is often for longterm good, and if it would not be, everyone naturaly resists change.
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