#ipfs on 2016-10-18 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2016-10-12 22:52 lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.4 has been released with an important pinning hotfix, get it at https://dist.ipfs.io | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0 | Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh

00:00 * kevina discovered the me command :)

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00:03 * whyrusleeping loves the me command

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00:06 <whyrusleeping> kevina: changed

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00:09 <kevina> PR: Created https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3314

00:11 <kevina> whyrusleeping: BTW: does https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3310 look good to you now?

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00:12 <whyrusleeping> yeap, just waiting on travis CI to finish

00:13 <kevina> why is travis CI so slow? It it because there is a per org limit and we have a lot of projects hanging of off ipfs?

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00:14 <kevina> It was really fast for me last night when there was no activity. :)

00:20 <whyrusleeping> I think it might have to do with per org limiting...

00:21 <whyrusleeping> i would love it if we could get more test runners from them

00:27 <kevina> and they want a small fortune for there premium service https://travis-ci.com/plans :(

00:28 <kevina> $129 / $249 / $489, per month, for what running some tests.

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00:30 <whyrusleeping> Yeah... thats not terrible pricing though, especially if we're able to have tests always run immediately

00:30 <kevina> BTW: the Open Source plan says "Fair Use", what every that means, does not put a hard limit on the number of concurrent jobs

00:30 <whyrusleeping> maybe theyre just out of OSX build runners in general?

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00:32 <kevina> maybe, I can't get a full view as I am not a member of most ipfs projects, can you tell how many build are going on for the ipfs project now?

00:32 <whyrusleeping> not really

00:33 <whyrusleeping> as far as i can see, theres only one build going on

00:36 <kevina> BTW: Is there a strong reason we have two separate tests on Travis CI?

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00:38 <whyrusleeping> no

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00:38 <whyrusleeping> other than 'running things more times makes us more likely to find random failures'

00:41 <kevina> just an idea, but could you disable one of them for now? Might help move things along....

00:41 <whyrusleeping> mmm... i'm not sure how to really do that properly

00:41 <whyrusleeping> if the circleCI build passes, and at least one of the travis builds is green, then i'm happy

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00:43 <kevina> but, meanwhile both builds are likely causing a backup in the queue....

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00:53 <kevina> whyrusleeping: so if we have a FilestoreNode that PosInfo should be non-nil?

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00:55 <whyrusleeping> should be, yeah

00:57 <kevina> whyrusleeping: thanks, what is *dag.Link now?

00:58 <kevina> nevermind, found it node.Link

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01:45 <kevina> whyrusleeping: merged kevina/posinfo-2 info kevina/filestore and things look good.

01:45 <kevina> of course it will fail if you pass a raw node, will work on fixing that in a bit

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01:50 <kevina> thanks!

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01:55 <lgierth> hey yoshuawuyts, that deployment tool you showed me in lisbon, what was is called?

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03:16 <kevina> whyrusleeping: in https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3307 should it be possible to retrieve a node added with --raw-leaves?

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03:58 <ShawkHawk[m]> hey all, i'm hoping someone can help me understand something conceptually

03:58 <ShawkHawk[m]> i'm running the node version of ipfs without a local deamon

03:58 <ShawkHawk[m]> i can add a file and get a hash back

03:59 <ShawkHawk[m]> but when i turn on my local node or use any of the public gateways, i can't find it

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04:00 <ShawkHawk[m]> based on my reading, it seems to have something to do with the repo in ipfs, which is where all the files get stored

04:01 <ShawkHawk[m]> i never defined any sort of repo in any of my configurations inside my node app, just instantiated an ipfs node with `new IPFS()` and did an `ipfs.goOnline()`

04:02 <ShawkHawk[m]> what am i missing here?

04:05 <interfect> I can't get the Node version to peer with the public network either.

04:06 <interfect> I do have it peering over libp2p-webrtc-star in the browser

04:06 <interfect> But starting up a node under Node didn't seem to actually successfully connect to anybody else.

04:08 <ShawkHawk[m]> interfect: side question, what's a usecase for running an ipfs node in the browser? doesn't the data disappear when the tab is closed?

04:08 <interfect> In browser it does a repo in IndexedDB, and I think it uses the fs-pull-blob-store in some directory somewhere...

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04:09 <interfect> No the data sticks around in HTML5 storage, until you open the tab again

04:10 <ShawkHawk[m]> oh neat

04:10 <ShawkHawk[m]> how much storage do you get?

04:11 <interfect> That is kind of a mystery. I was looking it up today.

04:12 <interfect> I think Firefox says something like 10% of free disk space.

04:12 <interfect> But I'm not sure there's a permission prompt to get more.

04:12 <interfect> Or a way to measure how much you have left.

04:13 <interfect> I would like to think that the IPFS class takes care of evicting stuff to make room for new stuff you want to download or add, but somehow I doubt that that's implemented.

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04:15 <interfect> Just asked at https://github.com/ipfs/js-idb-pull-blob-store/issues/6 about quota handling in general; maybe someone will explain it.

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04:36 <interfect> Here is how I make IPFS go in the browser, if anyone cares: https://github.com/interfect/js-ipfs/blob/patch-1/README.md#startup-in-nodejs-or-browser

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04:36 <interfect> It would really hekp if there were an official libp2p-webrtc-star signaling server (or set thereof) running somewhere that I could point to.

04:37 <interfect> Otherwise browser IPFS clients won;t be able to find each other, in general.

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04:45 <ShawkHawk[m]> interfect: cool, checking it out, thank you

04:45 <ShawkHawk[m]> I sort of disagree about any official server because I feel like that sorta spoils the coolness of ipfs

04:46 <ShawkHawk[m]> but i suppose it's good as a bridge into the new

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04:49 <interfect> We have the "official" bootstrap servers and gateway: https://github.com/wking/ipfs-infrastructure/tree/master/solarnet

04:49 <interfect> It'd make sense to add some bootstrap signaling servers

04:49 <interfect> We'd also want to have peer exchange for them, though, somehow

04:49 <ShawkHawk[m]> it's true it would be nice to roud things out

04:49 <A124> interfect Thanks! I came bout the the right time to notice that. haha

04:49 <interfect> Like you could learn about more and automatically use them

04:50 <lgierth> interfect ShawkHawk[m]: i'm about to crash, there's going to be more info on js-ipfs bootstrapping very soon

04:50 <interfect> Sounds great

04:50 <ShawkHawk[m]> Thanks for the code example above, interfect, i learned something new with the .add and .get stream stuff, i wrote some really nasty code to make those streams into strings

04:50 <lgierth> websockets transport for js/go interoperability, and proper bootstrap nodes for websockets and webrtc

04:51 <interfect> lgierth, yes yes yes!

04:51 <lgierth> there's no good webrtc implementation in go so that'll have to wait

04:51 <lgierth> i.e. websockets will have to do for now for interop

04:52 <interfect> As long as some interop exists things will work, right? Or does the requesting node have to be able to directly dial the providing node?

04:53 <lgierth> right now it needs a direct connection, but other nodes will be able to relay connections

04:53 <lgierth> very soon too, the relay code has been there for ages, just never been used

04:54 * lgierth zzz

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07:40 <A124> Umm... I know there is this work by kevina on filestore, but... not sure if that would be an exclusive filestore. Can we get a hybdrid of database, filestore and current blockstore?

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07:42 <A124> Tiny records would do mayhem on blockstore and filestore, while large files would be great to have as-is on the underlying FS:

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08:20 <Kamilion> who was it that told me about https://www.lede-project.org/ ?

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08:33 <cjd> probably me

08:33 <cjd> :)

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12:20 <ulrichard> Error: unable to open leveldb datastore: leveldb: manifest corrupted (field 'comparer'): missing

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14:22 <victorbjelkholm> Good morning!

14:24 <ion> Hi

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14:35 <aakilfernandes> hi

14:35 <aakilfernandes> anyone know how i can calculate the hash of a file using ipfs-js-api?

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15:23 <noffle> lgierth: awake? :)

15:23 <noffle> oh, perhaps you're on your flight now

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15:26 <noffle> lgierth: https://github.com/whyrusleeping/gx-go/issues/2#issuecomment-254543626

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15:47 <whyrusleeping> i'm really confused. my irc client is telling me the last message in this channel was 85 days ago

15:47 <whyrusleeping> its also july for some reason

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15:55 <Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: CR pls: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3315

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15:59 <Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: also follow up on https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/224#issuecomment-254509759

15:59 <Kubuxu> ofc if you are back to work

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16:01 <whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: yeah, i'm heading to get some philz pretty soon

16:02 <whyrusleeping> i'll be working today :)

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16:04 <Kubuxu> The #3315 is huge fail on my part :(

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16:09 <whyrusleeping> tests tests and more tests :D

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16:13 <Kubuxu> Yeah, that was part of the fail.

16:17 <victorbjelkholm> folks who are ipld owners (guessing on nicolagreco and daviddias at least), could you add me to the website repository so I can setup milestones/roadmap stuff?

16:17 <victorbjelkholm> would also need the same for the multiformats and libp2p website projects

16:17 <daviddias> for sure :D

16:18 <daviddias> victorbjelkholm: however, lets put multiformats and ipld milestones at the root of their projects

16:18 <daviddias> like libp2p/libp2p

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16:19 <Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: updated the issue

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16:20 <victorbjelkholm> daviddias, ok, works for me, thanks :)

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16:21 <daviddias> victorbjelkholm: added you to IPLD and created https://github.com/ipld/ipld

16:22 <victorbjelkholm> daviddias, sweet! I'll add the website stuff as separate milestone if that's fine for you?

16:22 <victorbjelkholm> in ipld/ipld

16:22 <daviddias> Yeah, check https://github.com/libp2p/libp2p/pull/8 to see if we have the same thing in mind

16:23 <victorbjelkholm> daviddias, hm, yeah, kindish. You mention the website here: https://github.com/libp2p/libp2p/pull/8/files#diff-38574c080d4e2eb38c49b86e6588ad98R124

16:23 <daviddias> exactly, it is an individual Milestone within the group of milestones under libp2p

16:23 <victorbjelkholm> I would fill out the tasks a bit and change Leads though, as we agreed upon me being lead over getting the websites done

16:24 <victorbjelkholm> yeah, makes sense :) I'll add some more concrete tasks to your PR if that's fine?

16:24 <daviddias> yes please :)

16:24 <victorbjelkholm> awesome, thanks!

16:24 <daviddias> I added it today and what I want to do is go through them on next sprint call, so that we can fill them with all our knowledge

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16:24 <daviddias> btw, multiformats already had a 'main' repo, here https://github.com/multiformats/multiformats

16:24 <victorbjelkholm> daviddias, you'll open a similar PR for ipld which includes ipld.io?

16:25 <daviddias> victorbjelkholm: you can create that one, Nicola would be on roll for that, but he is underwater till the end of next week

16:25 <daviddias> so, feel free to kick it off and then ping him so that he can add all the other milestones

16:25 <victorbjelkholm> daviddias, all right

16:25 <victorbjelkholm> sure thing :)

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16:29 <victorbjelkholm> daviddias, https://github.com/libp2p/libp2p/pull/8/commits/5ca6b06a83043b7b2e595cdc1072ad27cedc470d looks good?

16:33 <daviddias> added two comments, but yeah, that is the idea, anything that you see as a task for that milestone, write it down. On the leadership. it makes total sense for me if you want to own it all and I act as a resource for content and high level direction and expectation. It probably will enable you to move faster, than asking me for feedback at every cycle.

16:34 <victorbjelkholm> daviddias, yep, that's the idea :) Btw, in what way are you using "sitemap"? Usually that's the artifact of having the website structure to enable scraping but my spidey sense is telling me you mean something else

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16:35 <victorbjelkholm> daviddias, I'm guessing you mean sitemap as something that would just describe what pages and so on the website would include?

16:36 <daviddias> sending you what I have in mind

16:36 <daviddias> but yeah. that :)

16:36 <victorbjelkholm> all right, sounds good enough

16:42 <lgierth> noffle: yeah awake now

16:48 <chpio[m]> what's the diff. between multistream & multicodec?

16:48 <chpio[m]> are they just the same thing?

16:49 <kevina> whyrusleeping: did you see my messages from last night? (I saw you had IRC problems)

16:49 <victorbjelkholm> chpio[m], multistream: stream wire protocols, multicodec: serialization codecs, I think reading the motivation of both of them would make it clearer

16:50 <victorbjelkholm> https://github.com/multiformats/multistream#motivation

16:50 <victorbjelkholm> oh, motivation is the same on both of them, hah...

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16:56 <chpio[m]> so, the one is for prefixing (coding) bytes buffers and the other for streams?!

16:57 <keks> whyrusleeping: o/ ping me when you're there

16:58 <lgierth> chpio[m]: multicodec is simply a means to describe a blob of data: /my/format\nmydata

16:59 <lgierth> chpio[m]: multistream applies this to streams of data, and adds multiplexing (in combination with multistream-select)

16:59 <whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: CR pls https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3307

16:59 <whyrusleeping> lgierth: as well

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16:59 <whyrusleeping> keks: here i am!

16:59 <keks> :D

16:59 <whyrusleeping> i made it!

17:00 <lgierth> ok ok ok

17:00 <keks> awesome

17:00 <keks> so what are the problems with the feed-refactor branch?

17:00 <Kubuxu> yeah, read it through already, I will try to find time today to it today more in depth.

17:01 <keks> i guess that it doesn't cancel the actual subscrption when every subscriber unsubcribed?

17:01 <whyrusleeping> the feed refactor had problems because its poor UX to have to manually create, subscribe, and 'delete' feeds

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17:01 <whyrusleeping> all as separate steps

17:01 <keks> hmm but that is not the case

17:02 <keks> you can simply do subscribe

17:02 <keks> i haven't deleted yet

17:02 <whyrusleeping> its not the case now, it was in that refactor as far as i remember

17:02 <whyrusleeping> the behaviour we want to avoid is users accidentaly having subscriptions without realizing it

17:03 <whyrusleeping> so the existence of a subscription needs to be tied to a context

17:03 <keks> hm okay

17:03 <keks> i see

17:03 <whyrusleeping> we can definitely allow for multiple feeds, we just have to make sure no opportunity exists for the subscription to remain once its contexts have been canceled

17:03 <keks> okay

17:04 <keks> so that is basically when all subscribing http connections for a certain topic are closed, right

17:05 <whyrusleeping> yeap

17:05 <whyrusleeping> contexts for api requests get bound to a context

17:05 <whyrusleeping> so when the http connection closes, the context is cancelled

17:05 * whyrusleeping isnt using words well

17:05 <whyrusleeping> the coffee hasnt quite kicked in yet

17:06 <chpio[m]> lgierth (IRC): but, why are there two specs repos for the same thing? and also two implementations instead of one which would do both (encode/decode streams and buffers)?

17:06 <keks> hehe

17:06 <keks> hm, in master Subscribe is passed a ctx but it isn't used

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17:07 <cjd> oh hey it's DarkFax

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17:08 <keks> okay i'll dig through the code and try to make up a way to cleanly do this. will ping you when i think i'm on to something.

17:08 <whyrusleeping> awesome, sounds good :)

17:09 <whyrusleeping> and yeah, right now its not quite bound to a context in the way i'd like

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17:14 <lgierth> chpio[m]: yeah they're both very close. multistream is mainly responsible for multiplexing several multicodec streams on one underlying stream

17:14 <whyrusleeping> Hey Kubuxu, wanna tackle making sure https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p-net has proper code coverage this week?

17:14 <whyrusleeping> er

17:14 <whyrusleeping> not that one

17:14 <lgierth> chpio[m]: multigram will be doing the same as multistream, but over datagrams (udp, ethernet)

17:14 <whyrusleeping> this one: https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p-swarm

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17:17 <chpio[m]> ok, i see, it's very simple

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17:17 <whyrusleeping> just remembered about this: http://thesecretlivesofdata.com/raft/

17:18 <whyrusleeping> fantastic explanations of raft if anyone is interested

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17:24 <whyrusleeping> hsanjuan: Hey, did you need some repo permissions or something earlier?

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17:25 <lgierth> whyrusleeping: admin group on ipfs

17:25 <whyrusleeping> hsanjuan: do you have 2FA enabled?

17:25 <cjd> lgierth: nice job on node-fc00

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17:26 <lgierth> cjd: it starts \o/

17:26 <chpio[m]> next question: will libp2p's overlay replace cjdns?

17:27 <cjd> ansuz has been swearing for the past hour

17:27 <lgierth> haha

17:27 <lgierth> it doesnt start anymore?

17:27 <lgierth> i haven't touched it since the last commit

17:27 <lgierth> chpio[m]: no

17:27 <cjd> apparently if I change anything in cjdns it will explode

17:27 <whyrusleeping> chpio[m]: maybe if cjd feels like being super cool and using libp2p :P

17:28 <chpio[m]> whyrusleeping (IRC): :D

17:28 <lgierth> whyrusleeping: didn't you wanna write c-libp2p?

17:28 <cjd> maybe if whyrusleeping feels like being super cool and rewriting libp2p in C

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17:28 <whyrusleeping> yeah, actually i have a friend i'm trying to bring into protocol labs that would totally want to write c-libp2p

17:28 <cjd> using Allocator.c because otherwise C is scary

17:28 <whyrusleeping> hes a kernel hacker/dist-sys engineer

17:28 <lgierth> multiformats libs in c would already be a huge help

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17:30 <chpio[m]> i would write libp2p in rust, just dunno where i could start... im confused about the multistream/-codec thing :|

17:30 <cjd> http://transitiontech.ca/assets/riir/go-fc00-why-go.jpg

17:30 <i[m]> +1 for Rust

17:30 <i[m]> Either or C or Rust

17:30 <whyrusleeping> RIIR

17:30 <cjd> http://rewriteitinrust.com

17:30 <i[m]> It's a plague I know, which is why I didn't say anything.

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17:31 <i[m]> I don't have the time to do it right now.

17:31 <chpio[m]> ohh sorry, for bringing that again...

17:31 <cjd> no, keep doing it, it's awesome

17:31 <whyrusleeping> lol

17:31 <chpio[m]> still hati rust?

17:31 <whyrusleeping> chpio[m]: youre great, never change

17:31 <chpio[m]> *n

17:31 <cjd> Have you considered writing to the Linux mailing list ?

17:31 <whyrusleeping> ^

17:31 <i[m]> We'll never get in the kernel :/

17:32 <cjd> no no

17:32 <cjd> I mean to suggest that Linus rewrite it in Rust

17:32 <whyrusleeping> not until linux dies

17:32 <whyrusleeping> meant to write linus, but that works too

17:32 <lgierth> my life won't be complete until linus shows me the finger on video

17:32 <whyrusleeping> i also very much appreciate that "The kernel" always refers to the linux kernel

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17:33 <lgierth> bye cjd, thanks for all the fish

17:33 <ion> F

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17:34 <i[m]> I <3 Linux.

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17:34 <chpio[m]> pfff, mac os <3

17:34 <whyrusleeping> F

17:34 <ansuz> wow

17:34 <i[m]> gr8 b8 m8? lol ;)

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17:34 <ansuz> the hipster in this chan is too much

17:34 <ansuz> plz turn down

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17:35 <ansuz> mac is fine, k

17:35 <ansuz> so is windows

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17:35 <ansuz> datalove

17:35 <chpio[m]> but rust is bad |(

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17:35 <ansuz> no, rust is fine

17:35 <i[m]> Somebody write libp2p in befunge

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17:36 <Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: those are just interfaces

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17:37 <whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: i meant the link to swarm

17:37 <Kubuxu> ahh

17:37 <chpio[m]> which implementation is further js-libp2p or go-libp2p (+ all submodules ofc)?

17:37 <whyrusleeping> Yeah, which is already at 81%, but i still feel like its missing something...

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17:37 <Kubuxu> I will look at it.

17:37 <whyrusleeping> alternatively, you could tackle https://github.com/libp2p/go-tcp-transport/blob/master/tcp.go

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17:44 <chpio[m]> whyrusleeping (IRC): me?

17:44 <whyrusleeping> chpio[m]: in response to which comment?

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17:44 <chpio[m]> "alternatively, you could tackle https://github.com/libp2p/go-tcp-transport/blob/master/tcp.go"

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17:45 <Kubuxu> not it was to me

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17:45 <lgierth> victorbjelkholm: let's hack a few hours on thursday?

17:45 <Kubuxu> you assigned it to me too :p

17:46 <chpio[m]> k

17:46 <lgierth> then i'll have another day to fix any remaining infrastructure things that you notice

17:46 <victorbjelkholm> lgierth, absolutely!

17:46 <lgierth> and hsanjuan, let's hack a few hours next week, i'll show you the infrastructure stuff too

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17:47 <victorbjelkholm> I'm available anytime this week, just let me know if you have a prefered location, otherwise we'll be here (my home) :)

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17:47 <lgierth> victorbjelkholm: is your computer encrypted? otherwise no secrets :)

17:48 <whyrusleeping> victorbjelkholm: are you a fed?

17:48 <whyrusleeping> lgierth is a fed

17:48 <lgierth> :/

17:48 <lgierth> i eat feds for breakfast

17:48 <whyrusleeping> thats exactly what a fed would say

17:48 <lgierth> whyruchatting

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17:51 <victorbjelkholm> lgierth, home directory of separate user, yes. We can do a review once you come here

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17:51 <lgierth> all of it should be encrypted

17:52 <lgierth> how do you know bash or python are safe

17:52 <kumavis> daviddias: heyo, you around?

17:52 <kumavis> me and wanderer having a short call now

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17:53 <victorbjelkholm> lgierth, reviewing all the code! No, but all right, I'll setup full disk encryption before you get here

17:53 <lgierth> kumavis: daviddias is super busy this week, you might be more lucky next week when both dignifiedquire and haad are back as well

17:53 <kumavis> kk, thanks

17:53 <daviddias> hey o/ :) I'm around

17:55 <dignifiedquire> yeah daviddias is more available than me this week :) I am travelling currently but will be back next week as lgierth said

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18:09 <whyrusleeping> kevina: fixed cat and get on the raw-nodes PR

18:11 <kevina> whyrusleeping: thanks. I have a detest appointment in just a bit, but will have a look when I get back

18:11 <kevina> will also work on getting Raw node support working in the filestore. Should be easy.

18:12 <kevina> I just needed "ipfs cat" so I can test it easier.

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18:13 <nicolagreco> world wide werifiable

18:15 <whyrusleeping> nicolagreco: i miss u

18:16 <ansuz> did someone say fed?

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18:21 <lgierth> cat?

18:21 <hsanjuan> @whyrusleeping of course!

18:22 <whyrusleeping> hsanjuan: wonderful, gimme a sec

18:22 <whyrusleeping> hsanjuan: invite sent

18:22 <hsanjuan> @lgierth: next week or übernext, I'm away most of the week

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18:25 <lgierth> hsanjuan: cool cool, ubernext ist is

18:25 <lgierth> it is

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18:33 <lgierth> whyrusleeping: are we gonna give concurrent add another try?

18:33 <whyrusleeping> lgierth: we could, why do you ask?

18:33 <lgierth> "40% faster adds"

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18:33 <whyrusleeping> ah, no. not necessarily

18:34 <whyrusleeping> the biggest bottleneck i'm actually seeing there is pinning right now

18:34 <whyrusleeping> i think we can get a 40% improvement on add speeds just by making pinning faster

18:34 <lgierth> we could have a mode which pins only at the end

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18:39 <whyrusleeping> nah

18:39 <whyrusleeping> it would still take a long time

18:39 <whyrusleeping> we just need to make pinning faster

18:39 <whyrusleeping> its absurdly slow right now

18:39 <lgierth> cool

18:39 <whyrusleeping> we rewrite the entire pinlist every time

18:40 <lgierth> oh. hah

18:40 <lgierth> so it gets slower the more stuff is already pinned?

18:51 <Kubuxu> yup

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19:06 <pjz> whyrusleeping: how big is pinbots pinlist?

19:10 <ansuz> sry about the PMs lars

19:10 <ansuz> just kicked you

19:10 <ansuz> matrix bridges are cancer

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19:15 <pjz> ansuz: oh? what's wrong with them?

19:16 <victorbjelkholm> daviddias, FYI: "The Buffer() constructor has been deprecated in the documentation in favour of the new Buffer.from()"

19:16 <victorbjelkholm> https://nodejs.org/en/blog/release/v6.9.0/

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19:31 <wak-work> what's the deal with utp?

19:31 <wak-work> are there plans to fix the deadlocks or is it just being abandoned?

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19:32 <chpio[m]> is there a some kind of "multikey" or "multicrypt" ipfs/p2p? seams like there is only support for rsa?!

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19:37 <chpio[m]> ok, there is... https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-crypto/blob/master/src/crypto.proto

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19:39 <chpio[m]> hmm...

19:41 <lgierth> wak-work: yes we're bringing it back

19:42 <lgierth> wak-work: the deadlocks might not actually have been utp's fault

19:44 <lgierth> i love working from laundromat shops -- they're always sooo chill

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19:52 <Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: that was great idea with that Has cache.

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19:53 <Kubuxu> Those two caches are able to get Has requests from 1.5k/s to sub 1/s

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20:00 <kumavis> daviddias: need to add keccak256 to multihash ( and reserve a code for it )

20:01 <kumavis> i noticed sha3 is on there https://github.com/multiformats/js-multihash/blob/master/src/constants.js#L7

20:01 <Kubuxu> kumavis: that is quite an updated table

20:01 <Kubuxu> please take a look at go-multihash and or multihash itself

20:02 <Kubuxu> or even c-multihash

20:02 <kumavis> i want to clarify ethereum uses the name 'sha3' bc it selected the in-progress sha3 standard, that changed when the sha3 standard was finalized

20:02 <ansuz> is ethereum still getting hacked?

20:02 <Kubuxu> ooh

20:03 <Kubuxu> ansuz: they hard forked

20:03 <kumavis> ethereum's hash is now more accurately called keccack256

20:03 <ansuz> no after the hard fork

20:03 <ansuz> or did they do it again?

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20:04 <kumavis> ansuz: there was a protocol hardfork within the last 24 hours, to adjust opcode prices to more accurately reflect the impact of those operations on the system

20:05 <kumavis> fork happened quite gracefully and without controversy

20:05 <ansuz> oh, for the ddos?

20:05 <ansuz> sounds difficult

20:06 <Kubuxu> daviddias, whyrusleeping: this app specific namespace doesn't make much sense to me?

20:07 <kumavis> ansuz: here are the details of the changes https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/150

20:07 <ansuz> oh, I don't know much about reading go

20:07 <Kubuxu> They went with variant 1c

20:07 <ansuz> I'm just thinking about how this might affect the price of ETC

20:08 <lgierth> ansuz is a crypto-nihilist

20:08 <ansuz> noooo

20:08 <ansuz> not true

20:10 <ansuz> nihilists aren't fun at parties

20:10 <ansuz> I am

20:10 <cjd> Truth

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20:37 <whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: app specific namespace?

20:38 <Kubuxu> reserved namespace in multihash

20:38 <Kubuxu> for app's own hashes

20:38 <Kubuxu> david moved it to 0x4000-0x400f

20:38 <whyrusleeping> i don't think that was my idea

20:39 <Kubuxu> but we don't have multihash impl that supports varints

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21:27 <Mateon1> By the way, when we'll have varints in multiformats, are we doing utf8 kind of varints, something else, or is nothing planned yet?

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21:29 <kumavis> https://github.com/multiformats/multihash/issues/54

21:29 <whyrusleeping> Mateon1: we use the golang/protobuf style varints

21:30 <kumavis> keccak hash support ticket ^

21:30 <kumavis> daviddias jbenet ^ this is a preq for eth-* codec support

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21:30 <whyrusleeping> kumavis: the go-multihash 'sha3' is keccak

21:30 <Mateon1> whyrusleeping: Any link for golang/protobuf varints?

21:31 <kumavis> whyrusleeping: standard keccak or sha3-standard keccak?

21:31 <whyrusleeping> https://github.com/multiformats/unsigned-varint

21:31 <kumavis> whyrusleeping: i meant "base keccak or sha3-standard keccak?"

21:31 <whyrusleeping> kumavis: probably sha3-standard keccak

21:31 <whyrusleeping> i didnt know there was a difference?

21:31 <kumavis> sha3-standard is after nist got their hands on it

21:32 <kumavis> and its a subset of "base" keccak

21:32 <kumavis> handy little chart on the issue

21:32 <Mateon1> whyrusleeping: That repo just says "The format is used everywhere but undecided"

21:33 <whyrusleeping> Ah, it used to be more detailed...

21:33 <whyrusleeping> interesting

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21:34 <whyrusleeping> Mateon1: its the Uvarint from here: https://golang.org/pkg/encoding/binary/#PutUvarint

21:34 <whyrusleeping> at least, as far as i'm concerned

21:34 <Mateon1> Okay, based on https://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/encoding it's like UTF8, except reverses the order of the data bytes/bits

21:35 <Mateon1> So 1aaaaaa 0bbbbbb -> 00bbbbbbaaaaaa

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22:01 <dignifiedquire> pin!

22:01 <dignifiedquire> !pin

22:01 <pinbot> usage: !pin <hash> <label>

22:01 <dignifiedquire> !pin QmWsGPTKFWFRxMqvT2ic8LQxTiomwLP81gSybWmiYtStAD iif-demo

22:01 <pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmWsGPTKFWFRxMqvT2ic8LQxTiomwLP81gSybWmiYtStAD

22:02 <pinbot> pin 8/8 successes -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmWsGPTKFWFRxMqvT2ic8LQxTiomwLP81gSybWmiYtStAD

22:02 <dignifiedquire> !pin QmYomyCpT1vKNovYvTjAStYq31JoaH8xdivjmWcDj5mpM1 iif-demo-top

22:02 <pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmYomyCpT1vKNovYvTjAStYq31JoaH8xdivjmWcDj5mpM1

22:02 <pinbot> pin 8/8 successes -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmYomyCpT1vKNovYvTjAStYq31JoaH8xdivjmWcDj5mpM1

22:03 <dignifiedquire> !pin QmPmDy9uKFBkK9EceTeZpw3aSM9HoQdBKXWZrcibQvcr4S iif-demo-more

22:03 <pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmPmDy9uKFBkK9EceTeZpw3aSM9HoQdBKXWZrcibQvcr4S

22:03 <kevina> whyrusleeping: how do I correctly recompute the Hash for a Cid that possible can be a Raw Node?

22:03 <pinbot> pin 8/8 successes -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmPmDy9uKFBkK9EceTeZpw3aSM9HoQdBKXWZrcibQvcr4S

22:03 <kevina> I need to be able to verify the file contents in the filestore

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22:05 <dignifiedquire> !pin QmccDvQ1W7wMY4zm5XHCEAFnjHXRGzdFJD6DRu4yGjjYLS more-images

22:05 <pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmccDvQ1W7wMY4zm5XHCEAFnjHXRGzdFJD6DRu4yGjjYLS

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22:07 <pinbot> [host 0] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmccDvQ1W7wMY4zm5XHCEAFnjHXRGzdFJD6DRu4yGjjYLS: Post http://[fc98:424c:b433:d7e2:7ee3:9541:73ff:2cdb]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=/ipfs/QmccDvQ1W7wMY4zm5XHCEAFnjHXRGzdFJD6DRu4yGjjYLS&encoding=json&stream-channels=true&r=true&: dial tcp [fc98:424c:b433:d7e2:7ee3:9541:73ff:2cdb]:5001: getsockopt: connection timed out

22:07 <pinbot> pin 7/8 successes -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmccDvQ1W7wMY4zm5XHCEAFnjHXRGzdFJD6DRu4yGjjYLS

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22:08 <whyrusleeping> !botsnack

22:08 <pinbot> om nom nom

22:08 <whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: don't forget to feed the bots

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22:08 <dignifiedquire> !botsnack

22:08 <pinbot> om nom nom

22:08 <whyrusleeping> kevina: c := blah.Cid()

22:08 <whyrusleeping> c.Prefix().Sum(data)

22:08 <dignifiedquire> of course :)

22:08 <whyrusleeping> or something

22:10 <kevina> okay thanks for the tip, its a bit more complicated because I only have a dsKey, but I will figure it out :)

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22:16 <dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: what part of the api is available on the gateway?

22:17 <dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: I want to get ls of a folder, without the all the html from the gateway

22:19 <Mateon1> dignifiedquire: ipfs.io/api/v0/ls/<hash> ?

22:19 <Mateon1> A lot is available on the public API

22:19 <dignifiedquire> that gave me a 404

22:19 <Mateon1> dignifiedquire: Try this: https://ipfs.io/api/v0/ls/QmZHJStArK5U8JpRT7owBNUW4nCvgJx52NRsCqt2aPJxfv

22:19 <dignifiedquire> https://ipfs.io/api/v0/ls/QmWsGPTKFWFRxMqvT2ic8LQxTiomwLP81gSybWmiYtStAD/full/

22:20 <Mateon1> Well, there's a /full/ at the end, so you have to first request the hash, get the path to /full, and then make another request

22:20 <whyrusleeping> or

22:20 <whyrusleeping> pass the path as an argument

22:20 <whyrusleeping> ?arg=QmBlah/Foo

22:21 <Mateon1> whyrusleeping: Oh my god, thank you: https://ipfs.io/api/v0/ls?arg=QmWsGPTKFWFRxMqvT2ic8LQxTiomwLP81gSybWmiYtStAD/full

22:21 <whyrusleeping> yeeeee

22:23 <Mateon1> I have no idea what the heck that QmZHJ file I gave as an example was

22:23 <Mateon1> I wish we could reverse lookup hash links in the local repo

22:23 <Mateon1> Except the repo handling is so darn slow, that's unfeasible

22:23 <whyrusleeping> backlink databases would be so awesome to have

22:23 <Mateon1> ^

22:24 <whyrusleeping> Mateon1: which aspects are slow? i can definitely prioritize perf improvements on something like that

22:24 <whyrusleeping> ianopolous_: btw, we added support for ed25519 keys

22:24 <whyrusleeping> you cant yet make a peer ID with them, but the code is in place to handle it

22:25 <Mateon1> whyrusleeping: `ipfs refs local` takes forever (outputs only a handful of hashes per second), `ipfs pin ls` with no argument takes forever, unless --type=recursive is added (to skip indirect pins)

22:25 <whyrusleeping> Ah, okay

22:25 <whyrusleeping> i think i know a way to speed tha up

22:25 <whyrusleeping> the datastore query method sucks

22:25 <dignifiedquire> haad: is orbit-db actually using ipns for the head currently?

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22:25 <whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: nope

22:25 <ianopolous_> whyrusleeping: brilliant!

22:25 <dignifiedquire> how does it get it then?

22:26 <whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: from other peers you connect to i think

22:26 <whyrusleeping> though pubsub maybe?

22:26 <dignifiedquire> well before pubsub?

22:27 <ianopolous_> whyrusleeping: we might be ready to try it out in a few weeks too!

22:27 <whyrusleeping> ianopolous_: awesome :)

22:27 <whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: orbit has always had pubsub

22:28 <dignifiedquire> right it used redis before

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22:35 <whyrusleeping> substack: are you in oakland? or still out and about adventuring?

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23:19 <whyrusleeping> kevina: do you think you could take a look at whats not quite right on 3300?

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23:25 <dignifiedquire> !pin QmVG6eBZqvcQSPVi9RF7ZUFESBrneEdYPgku6iSdKm2GPq

23:25 <pinbot> usage: !pin <hash> <label>

23:25 <dignifiedquire> !pin QmVG6eBZqvcQSPVi9RF7ZUFESBrneEdYPgku6iSdKm2GPq screen

23:25 <pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmVG6eBZqvcQSPVi9RF7ZUFESBrneEdYPgku6iSdKm2GPq

23:26 <pinbot> pin 8/8 successes -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmVG6eBZqvcQSPVi9RF7ZUFESBrneEdYPgku6iSdKm2GPq

23:26 <dignifiedquire> this is why we need to fix the internet https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmVG6eBZqvcQSPVi9RF7ZUFESBrneEdYPgku6iSdKm2GPq

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23:30 <ploop> is pinning a directory recursive?

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23:32 <whyrusleeping> ploop: if you pin it recursively, yes

23:32 <whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: were those pics not in ipfs?

23:32 <dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: no they are github links

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23:33 <ploop> whyrusleeping: how do you pin recursively? I don't see that in `ipfs pin --help`

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23:33 <ploop> only on rm, not on add

23:33 <ploop> oh, `ipfs pin add --help` :|

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23:37 <whyrusleeping> ipfs pin add is recursive by default

23:37 <whyrusleeping> but yeah

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23:38 <chungy> I'm on Arch Linux 64-bit, if I use "ipfs mount" it takes a long time before exiting with "Error: Could not resolve name" and nothing is mounted on /ipfs. Is there anything to find out what causes it, and fix it?

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23:39 <ploop> i started a new node on a vps and started the daemon and I'm getting a bunch of:

23:39 <ploop> ERRO[19:22:22:000] failed to find any peer in table module=bitswap

23:39 <ploop> like 1k lines

23:39 <ploop> what might cause that?

23:39 <chungy> oh, if I look at the journal, it shows this

23:39 <chungy> Oct 18 16:39:00 turanga ipfs[29903]: 16:39:00.699 ERROR fuse/ipns: looking up /ipns/QmayvvvCH2Wt7RAQegu3PR3yMDFAJBbDjtTeeJnPmggjhE: Could not resolve name. ipns_unix.go:98

23:39 <chungy> Oct 18 16:39:00 turanga ipfs[29903]: 16:39:00.700 ERROR node: error mounting: Could not resolve name. mount_unix.go:101

23:40 <chungy> Seems like more information, but I don't know what to do still.

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23:43 <whyrusleeping> chungy: the mount code hasnt been maintained in a while

23:43 <whyrusleeping> i'm not sure what could be going wrong, we need to find time to look into fixing it

23:44 <whyrusleeping> ploop: what does ipfs swarm peers show?

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23:44 <ploop> whyrusleeping: nothing

23:44 <whyrusleeping> ploop: huh, you don't have any peers then

23:44 <whyrusleeping> can you send me the output of `ipfs id` ?

23:44 <dansup> hey ansuz, doing anything neat with ipfs lately?

23:46 <ploop> whyrusleeping: https://bpaste.net/raw/a7aadf201d23

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23:51 <ploop> whyrusleeping: I did `ipfs id` on my home node which has ~300 peers and tried to add it to the vps node and it says: dial attempt failed: misdial to <peer.ID [id]> through /ip4/[ipv4]/tcp/4001 (got <peer.ID >)

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23:52 <whyrusleeping> ploop: that node is running a really old ipfs version that is no longer supported

23:52 <ploop> which node?

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23:52 <whyrusleeping> the one with the issues

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23:53 <ploop> aaaaa, that explains it. I just installed like 30 minutes ago to /usr/bin but there's apparently an old version in /usr/local/bin

23:53 <ploop> which must come first in $PATH

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