<AphelionZ>
no, i was kinda hoping i could set up a browser node, add content, and be done with it :(
<AphelionZ>
truth be told I havent successfully sent anything to the gateway yet
<lgierth>
yeah i can imagine that not yet working
<AphelionZ>
hopefully soon
<lgierth>
the browser nodes have bitswap, but no routing (neither peer nor content routing), so the other end needs to know exactly whom it needs to bitswap with
<AphelionZ>
im not just a pastebin enthusiast.. this toy project is a test bed for the real thing I want to use ipfs for
<AphelionZ>
I do have a go-ipfs server running in AWS
<AphelionZ>
can I utilize that for now?
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<lgierth>
you can post to it
<lgierth>
enable Gateway.Writable or run with --writable
<lgierth>
then POST your thing, and you get redirected to the resulting path
<lgierth>
we just haven't enabled that on ipfs.io yet
<AphelionZ>
just post to the HTTP api?
<lgierth>
gateway
<lgierth>
please don't expose the api to the internet ;)
<AphelionZ>
haha well what do you mean "POST [my] thing"
<lgierth>
you have a piece of data
<lgierth>
you make a POST request with the data as the request body
<lgierth>
the native way with bitswap and content routing and then just pinging $someNode so it pins it, is way cooler of course
<lgierth>
but tricky without content routing
<lgierth>
oh well
<lgierth>
you could ping that "storage node" not just with the CID, but also with the browser's peerID
<AphelionZ>
ok so i need to write some microservices or some such thing on my server, right?
<lgierth>
i'm just not sure go-ipfs can be told to fetch content from a specific node
<AphelionZ>
just to marshall the data back and forth
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<lgierth>
no the gateway can do that if you enable Gateway.Writable
<AphelionZ>
i just post to the IP address? no subpath?
<AphelionZ>
ah. i know what my real question is :)
<AphelionZ>
what's the gateway? :)
<lgierth>
the thing on go-ipfs's port 8080
<lgierth>
an http interface to /ipfs and /ipns
<AphelionZ>
there we go
<AphelionZ>
ok cool
<lgierth>
i think js-ipfs is getting a gateway too
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<AphelionZ>
can my browser node pull content down from a peer?
<lgierth>
if it knows *which* peer, yes
<AphelionZ>
interesting, ok
<lgierth>
but it can't just "find" stuff by a hash
<lgierth>
because there's neither content routing (find providers of $hash) nor peer routing (find addresses for $peerid)
<lgierth>
(yet)
<dryajov>
dignifiedquire: is there a way of attaching more than once to a pull stream?
<lgierth>
AphelionZ: i figure the /ip4/tcp/ws peers i see are all you? :) it's 4
<dryajov>
ie, I have a relayed connection that I want to later read/write to...
<dryajov>
but, it seems like that is not possible?
<lgierth>
dryajov: i think you put a stream muxer on top, so you can have multiple independent streams on top of one underlying stream
<lgierth>
the layer that does this is called host (or basic_host) in go-ipfs, not totally sure about js
<dryajov>
don’t I get the connection muxed already from the swarm?
<xelra>
I've seen there's an Android ipfs app. It's not a full node though, but only resolves ipfs links through a gateway, right? So that wouldn't be of any use with private networks, right?
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<dryajov>
lgierth: I think this is just a limitation of pullstreams and the fact that I don’t really get the raw socket back, but an already wrapped pull’abe connection (js ipfs connection)
<lgierth>
xelra: if you mean ipfsdroid, that's running a full go-ipfs node
<lgierth>
xelra: it's not very nice yet because go-ipfs isn't optimized for mobile use cases at all yet
<lgierth>
the app itself is great
<xelra>
Oh really? On the GitHub page it says otherwise. Maybe the readme is outdated.
<lgierth>
or maybe the full node is in a branch?
<lgierth>
dryajov: the swarm just gives you one stream to the other node
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<lgierth>
dryajov: the host lets you mount protocols on that stream -- it's able to do this because of the stream muxer wrapping
<AphelionZ>
lgierth: yep! Thats me lol
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<lgierth>
good to know the metric is working though :) it has only been showing /ip4/tcp and /ip6/tcp for 1.5 years
<dryajov>
lgierth: yeah, still think were talking about separate issues, I haven’t looked into stream muxin yet, tho I ghout about it, this is purelly me trying to figure out how to use pull streams :)
<dryajov>
* thout
<lgierth>
yeah no idea about pull streams :)
<dryajov>
they’re… fun...
<lgierth>
hehe yeah i've heard that much
<dryajov>
:P
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<lgierth>
!pin QmSb8577TaDYTN2Zo1bZ43PCUYfEneM2REuWZsDGtURLDn jquery for ipfs.io
<dryajov>
lgierth: general question with how relaying is going to be used in ipfs… as I mentioned above, I’m currently returning an ipfs connection that *should* be usable anywhere, is that a correct assumption
<dryajov>
?
<dryajov>
basically, the dialer/listener part is eventually going to be its own transport
<lgierth>
for now it's mainly so go-ipfs nodes can dial browser tabs
<lgierth>
(and vice versa)
<lgierth>
or do you mean re: abstract/packaging?
<dryajov>
yeah, more like implementation/api level
<lgierth>
i'd keep the swarm protocol part and the transport part together -- they don't make much sense on their own
<lgierth>
ah, but yeah it can be separate objects
<dryajov>
basically I have a dialer with a relay method that returns an js-ipfs connection
<lgierth>
it might get weird dependency-tree-wise otherwise
<dryajov>
yeah, so far I have it together, haven’t implemented it as a transport yet, but I have the dialer, relay and listeners
<dryajov>
its a rough WIP, but seems to be working… only thing left is to figure out the pullstreams issue and my tests should pass
<dryajov>
:P
<lgierth>
great :D
<lgierth>
exciting
<dryajov>
it should be in the circuit repo in a pr...
<dryajov>
there is only one
<lgierth>
i can probably throw together something go-libp2p node that opens a stream to a browser tab
<dryajov>
it probably wont build/run since I patched a couple of things and haven’t pushed
<dryajov>
nice
<dryajov>
I hope to have this working by this weekend/early next week…
<dryajov>
if I figure out the pull stream thingy that is :D
<lgierth>
> Trickle-dag is optimized for reading data in sequence, while the merkle-dag improves random access time. It might make sense to use trickle-dag for long videos, but in my experience it's not a massive difference.
<lgierth>
(so it's the opposite of what i said, merkle-dag is for seeking)
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<Jesin>
lgierth: ok thanks
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<AphelionZ>
how do I properly expose my gateway 8080 to the internet? this is likely just a regular old IT/port issue than anythng but help would still be greatly appreciated!
<AphelionZ>
websockets are working fine on port 4002
<AphelionZ>
4002 and 8080 are both open in my AWS EC2 security group
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<zabirauf>
I have a question regarding orbit-db in browser
<zabirauf>
I am trying to run the browser examples but I don't see the two instances opened in separate tab syncing the data
<zabirauf>
Is that even supported yet?
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<haad>
zabirauf: that should work and if not, ther's a bug or something is broken :/ I'll take a look today and see what's going on. are you master? can you do me a favor and run 'npm ls ipfs' and report back which version you have i nthe project?
<haad>
zabirauf: did you open the issue about it the other day?
<zabirauf>
bit-db@0.16.3
<zabirauf>
└── ipfs@0.22.1
<zabirauf>
└─┬ ipfs-daemon@0.3.0-beta.24
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<zabirauf>
haad: Yep, i opened that issue
<AkhILman>
how ipfs manages dynamic content?
<haad>
zabirauf: thanks for reporting that and sorry didn't get back to you yet! and thanks for the output. I'll take a look and see if I can quickly fix that.
<AkhILman>
ok, google knows
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<haad>
zabirauf: do you see any errors or warnings in the console?
<zabirauf>
haad: let me try again and see if I get any errors or warnings
<haad>
zabirauf: no worries. found the issue! :) will reply on the github issue so we have the solution for everyone available
<zabirauf>
haad: nope, don't see any error or warning in console
<zabirauf>
haad: Great! Thanks for looking into it
<haad>
zabirauf: no problem :) and thanks for reporting it! didn't know it was broken.
<haad>
zabirauf: pushed fixed examples to master, can you pull and try again and see if they sync?
<zabirauf>
haad: Doesn't seem to work, it just doesn't go beyond the Loading.
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<zabirauf>
haad: Debugging in chrome shows that it never goes in the query block i.e. the ready event is not being triggered
<haad>
zabirauf: hmmm weird, I just ran the example and seems to work. can you try running 'npm run build' (to build the orbitdb js bundle) and run the example again?
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<haad>
zabirauf: if that didn't work, try one more thing: there's the 'channel' variable at the top of the code in browser.html, change that to something unique and try again (I was just running it myself and what could've happened is that your example was trying to load the database from my peer and thus be seemingly "stuck" at loading)
<zabirauf>
Let me try that
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<zabirauf>
haad: That worked, it is connecting now. Though I still don't see the event log and count syncing between them
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<haad>
zabirauf: make sure you're on two separate browser instances (ie. chrome+ff, or chrome normal + chrome incognito tab). the example uses the same ipfs data repository path for both peers and if they're in the same "origin", they're basically same two peers and it might cause the sync not work (because they think they're sending to themselves)
<haad>
should add that note to the documentation
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<zabirauf>
haad: I tried the chrome normal + chrome incognito and seems like they are also not in sync
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<haad>
:/
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<BreakIt>
Hi all! I started building a blogging site hosted on IPFS. Using Hugo + Future imperfect theme. Site loads nicely over ipfs but the comments using Disqus doesn't work. (No problem when testing site in LAN with hugo server -w) Is there any know issue when running Disqus on sites hosted on IPFS?
<haad>
zabirauf: hmmm... I'm running out of ideas what could be going wrong
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<zabirauf>
haad: Not sure, if i'm doing something wrong. The only change i made to browser.html is changing the channel
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<haad>
zabirauf: yeah that should be correct... hmmm. maybe try again with two incognito tabs? maybe there's something funky with the existing data. perhaps try changing the 'IpfsDataDir' in the IpfsDaemon config to something unique. and maybe try the 'MDNS.Enabled' value as true. that's all I can think of atm. it's running fine here as we speak, so I'm thinking it's some config mismatch or smth.
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<zabirauf>
haad: I event tried from a fresh start, cloning the repo again and changing the channel, still the same issue
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<haad>
zabirauf: those are two different browser windows? (incognito + normal?)
<zabirauf>
Yep
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<haad>
zabirauf: I'm out of ideas :/ one last thing you should try is to change the 'IpfsDataDir' to something unique and see if that makes it work. I'll have to take a deeper look into what's happening and why they're having hard time to connect/sync.
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<zabirauf>
haad: Just tried that as well, still the same issue
<zabirauf>
at Zlib._binding.onerror (index.js:361)
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at Zlib._write (binding.js:187)
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at binding.js:117
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at Item.run (browser.js:153)
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at drainQueue (browser.js:123)
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<haad>
oh..
<haad>
zabirauf: that sounds like dependency mismatch. make sure to run a clean 'rm -rf node_modules && npm install' to get the right dependencies installed (if you did a manual npm install ipfs-daemon in-between)
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<BreakIt>
Hi all! I started building a blogging site hosted on IPFS. Using Hugo + Future imperfect theme. Site loads nicely over ipfs but the comments using Disqus doesn't work. (No problem when testing site in LAN with hugo server -w) Is there any know issue when running Disqus on sites hosted on IPFS?
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<Kubuxu>
Not that I know of
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<BreakIt>
Ok. Its strange. Seen several pages hosted on IPFS where Disqus works perfectly both through gateway and daemon/localhost. Also tried to redo the process on Disqus-side by deleting all settings and starting all over.
<BreakIt>
Best guess I got att the moment is som faulty code in the theme I'm using for the site.
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<KheOps>
Too bad Android doesn't have Go :) I'd be interested in having IPFS working on Android, but that seems like quite the moutain of work
<KheOps>
Thanks! I'm interested by the API side of things
<KheOps>
Interesting, thank you :)
<victorbjelkholm>
no worries :)
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<Stskeeps>
alterego: didn't you have ipfs on android at some point?
<KheOps>
I'm also quite requiring the thing to be an actual node since I'm thinking about working under censored conditions where centralised websites may get blocked
<alterego>
Stskeeps: yes
<Stskeeps>
alterego: elaborate that to KheOps how we did it?
<KheOps>
Excellent, thanks. So, full IPFS daemon working on Android eventually. That sounds pretty exciting :)
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<KheOps>
I just tried the Python API, too. Really easy!
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<alterego>
KheOps: if you want to play on mobile in a fairly sane way now. You can actually control what peers your node connects to from the API
<alterego>
KheOps: so ideally you'd only connect to one node when you're mobile, like your own IPFS gateway.
<alterego>
KheOps: then when on wifi, you'd connect to any peers (including local ones found through mdns)
<alterego>
Also maybe cut down peer connections on screen blank, to save power, etc.
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<KheOps>
alterego: thanks for the hints :)
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<elopio>
I got a couple of users reporting this error: 09:26:48.100 ERROR bitswap: couldnt open sender again after SendMsg(<peer.ID VdjZbw>) failed: dial attempt failed: context deadline exceeded wantmanager.go:220
<elopio>
do you know something about it?
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<seharder>
lgierth: I will need some help getting the zoom link setup for the test-lab standup.
<seharder>
lgierth: Will you be attending the meeting?
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<jonnycrunch>
seharder: Using the desktop app you should be able to "start new meeting", log in using google and then just post the meeting id into the IRC
<A124>
"How should we do updates? Where should we publish them? How to make them secure but simple for user?" Umm... just use ipfs with ipns and sign the updates so they can be verified anywhere? *mind blown*
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<jbenet>
hey seharder seharder_ I'm a few min, late sorry. Getting internet access
<seharder_>
jbenet:No problem
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<ashark>
Am... I correct in my understanding that the chosen add-files-in-place implementation only lets me share from one directory?
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<kpcyrd>
whyrusleeping: can I ask you some questions about the migrations that ipfs executes? //cc: lgierth
<lgierth>
sure
<kpcyrd>
lgierth: ah, you're there :)
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<kpcyrd>
lgierth: I'm trying to reduce the image size and I'm wondering if there are any packages that are still needed after the build is done
<kpcyrd>
lgierth: and the one thing I was worrying about are migrations that might need eg ca-certificates
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<kpcyrd>
oh wait, found it
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<lgierth>
you can also strip all the debug headers off the ipfs binary
<lgierth>
if every MB counts
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<elopio>
whyrusleeping: great, thanks for the link! I will let them know.
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<keith_analog>
Hi All, I'm running ipfs 0.4.6 and am having trouble resolving the ipns names of my machines. For example, trying `ipfs name resolve QmUH8QCsWBpWoNn3ZvfiTJBFQKGqH5DnNonrqs1NXcHCxg` times out, and so does the attempts to resolve via gateway.ipfs.io. My machine is behind NAT. Is this issue common? Is anyone else having similar issues? Could NAT be the cause? Thanks
<whyrusleeping>
keith_analog: is that your peer ID?
<keith_analog>
yep
<keith_analog>
about one minute after i posted that message, the page for my peer id loaded via gateway.ipfs.io
<keith_analog>
maybe the cache is getting updated somehow by having someone else in the network try to access the peer id
<whyrusleeping>
keith_analog: could be, i've been noticing some weirdness around ipns in the past couple months
<whyrusleeping>
i need to allocate time to investigate
<whyrusleeping>
thanks for bringing it up
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<keith_analog>
sure thing. I'm playing around with ipfs as a platform for hosting a small website. I really like the design and almost everything is there. But the ipns is still a bit unreliable at the moment. Everything else has worked great. :)
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<whyrusleeping>
keith_analog: Yeah, ipns is a bit weird yet. But that shouldnt stop you from hosting a website
<whyrusleeping>
the ipfs.io website is hosted on ipfs
<whyrusleeping>
as is my personal little page: ipfs.git.sexy
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<gde33>
sexy is a tld? O_o
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<M-hash>
^ i too was impressed
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<lachenmayer>
is js-ipfs compatible with go-ipfs at this stage? ie. if i have an ipfs daemon running on my local machine, can i access stuff stored on that through the browser?
<lachenmayer>
or would using js-ipfs-api be a lot easier? currently just trying to set up a demo app that runs on my machine only
<kpcyrd>
I like how transfering all the data was just `xargs docker exec go-ipfs ipfs pin add`
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<zippy314_>
Hi folks, I'm trying to understand how Host.Connect() in libp2p works, and when it should be used. In p2p/host/basic/basic_host, the comment before NewStream says that if there is no connection to p, it attempts to create one. And NewStream seems to call Network.DialPeer at some point, which Connect() also calls. The example coded uses NewStream and not Connect. When would you use Connect()?
<zippy314_>
I'm trying to figure this out because I want to implement a RoutedHost, but it looks like those need to use Connect() which will discover a route by calling FindPeer(), rather than simply calling NewStream() which will simply fail if there's no multiaddress associated with the peer.ID.
<zippy314_>
Can someone point me to examples of how to use Connect() to initiate the stream rather than NewStream()?
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<AphelionZ>
lachenmayer: im doing the same. Interop is not *quite* there so i ended up using a crutch server. Id be happy to talk more about what i did
<AphelionZ>
Look at my repo on github interplanetary pastebin
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<lachenmayer>
thanks AphelionZ, will check it out
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<lachenmayer>
AphelionZ: ah so you have a public ipfs node that you use as 'server' in-browser?
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<lgierth>
zippy314_: it might just be that what you need is missing -- some of these APIs aren't complete yet, would be best if you could open an issue in libp2p/go-libp2p proposing what you need
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<zippy314_>
lgierth: I'm just trying to understand the intent of the API first, so I can figure out what to ask for... So I was hoping someone could tell me how one is supposed to combine creating NewStreams with Connect()
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<lgierth>
i think Connect() in this case is the equivalent to `ipfs swarm connect`
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<lgierth>
it just ensures you have a connection with that peer, without a special direct purpose
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<zippy314_>
well, both BasicHost.Conect() ends with a call to dialPeer. So that ends up doing some network connecting without actually opening a stream I guess...
<AphelionZ>
lachenmayer: basically i want to have it set up so that it checks local first, and then pulls from my go node if necessary
<AphelionZ>
Then i can yank that out once the browser nodes and the go nodes can peer properly
<lgierth>
zippy314_: yeah does what it says on the thin i guess ;)
<lgierth>
you might not immediately want a stream, for example
<whyrusleeping>
zippy314_: NewStream on basichost doesnt really *need* to call Connect
<whyrusleeping>
the intent of the api there is that you should call connect first to ensure you have a connection, then open a new stream
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<whyrusleeping>
though we've combined that for convenience
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