lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.6 is out! https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs | Week 9+10: 1) Test Lab https://git.io/vysyh 2) Orbit https://git.io/vysSv | Roadmap: https://waffle.io/ipfs/roadmaps | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<dignifiedquire> nice dryajov :)
<dryajov> dignifiedquire :D, on a crusade...
<dryajov> lol
<dryajov> in all seriosness, 98% of the webworker effort was getting window out…
<achin> huh.... ERROR: cannot verify ipfs.io's certificate, issued by CN=StartCom Class 3 OV Server CA,OU=StartCom Certification Authority,O=StartCom Ltd.,C=ILm wa:
<achin> apparently gentoo removed this CA root?
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<lgierth> uugggh, i hope not?
<lgierth> we haven't gotten to updating to lets encrypt yet
<lgierth> at least not the ipfs.io cert
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<achin> would probably be good if ipfs.io started to move to another CA
<lgierth> yeah :/ sorry about that
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: have we started the process?
<whyrusleeping> this needs to happen asap
<lgierth> we have a plan in place but it's non-trivial
<lgierth> needs: the cert broker, and the nginx lua integration
<whyrusleeping> link?
<lgierth> the replication part is debatable
<lgierth> lua-in-nginx could just as well have an LRU
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: what do we need to do just to replace the ipfs.io cert
<lgierth> we could reduce the zone to one ip for a few minutes and put a letsencrypt-enabled proxy in front
<lgierth> yeeah i think i'm gonna do that
<lgierth> the cert broker and nginx lua stuff would be a milestone for everybody though
<lgierth> :]
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<whyrusleeping> oh yeah
<whyrusleeping> it would be great to have a general solution
<achin> getting gentoo to install the "insecure_certs" was easy enough to me
<whyrusleeping> but if people can no longer view ipfs.io, thats pretty bad
<lgierth> yeah better finally put out that fucking fire
<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: rc1 today?
<whyrusleeping> Yeap, I've been going through the 0.4.7 issues and moving them to 0.4.8
<Kubuxu> seen it
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<Kubuxu> have a nice rest of day
<Kubuxu> lgierth: go to sleep :P
<lgierth> it's 2, i'm not even close to being tired
<lgierth> :)
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<achin> oh noes. repo migration fail
<whyrusleeping> mm?
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<whyrusleeping> achin: thats odd...
<whyrusleeping> try it again?
<whyrusleeping> or
<whyrusleeping> investigate the repo, make sure nothing looks weird
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<achin> i'm not sure i'd be able to identify weirdness
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<whyrusleeping> mmm
<whyrusleeping> trying again is an option here
<whyrusleeping> are you using the latest versions?
<achin> running it again yielded the same results
<achin> how do i get the exact git hash from the git binary?
<achin> i should be running master, which was fetched about an hour ago
<achin> i thought it was "ipfs diag sys", but that only says "Error: ipfs repo needs migration" :D
<achin> s/git binary/ipfs binary/
<whyrusleeping> ipfs version --commit
<whyrusleeping> should print it
<achin> ipfs version 0.4.6-
<whyrusleeping> okay, thats the release binary
<whyrusleeping> hrm...
<achin> i might have failed to actually "git merge origin/master"
<whyrusleeping> you don't have an old daemon running at the same time, do you?
<whyrusleeping> (it should check for that, but just verifying)
<achin> nope, no other running ipfs processes
<whyrusleeping> achin: how big is this repo?
<achin> about 8GB
<achin> "make install" is doing something i don't understand
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<achin> it copies something to $GOPATH/bin/ipfs, but that file has a different size/checksum from $GOPATH/src/github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/cmd/ipfs/ipfs
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<whyrusleeping> thats because whatever is in cmd/ipfs/ipfs is an older build
<whyrusleeping> go install doesnt copy, it moves
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<achin> moves from where?
<lgierth> some temp dir
<lgierth> try go install -n ./cmd/ipfs
<lgierth> prints only the commands, doesn't run them
<achin> doesn't print anything
<achin> i guess i should start with a simpler dumber question: is "make build && make install" the right way to build from source and then install into $GOPATH/bin ?
<lgierth> make install is enough
<lgierth> since go install implies go build
<lgierth> go build moves to ./ while go install moves to $GOPATH/bin
<achin> ok. so it does indeed put something in $GOPATH/bin/
<achin> but i thought running $GOPATH/bin/ipfs version --commit would print out the git hash
<achin> and i got confused, because when i run "make build" and then run `./cmd/ipfs/ipfs version --commit` i do see the git hash
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<lgierth> i wonder when that hash broke
<achin> if you think this is a bug (instead of me doing something wrong), i can bisect
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<lgierth> i'm just saying version should always include the hash if you build via make
<achin> k
<achin> i'll open an issue later. thanks for the help
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<nickjohnson> jbenet: Are you about?
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<whyrusleeping> Wow, ipfs 0.4.7 has way more cool stuff in it than i was thinking
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<whyrusleeping> filestore, private networks, a pretty significant DHT fix, updated fuse dependency
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<Mateon2> Hm, is there any info on repo compatibility between linux and windows?
<Mateon2> I am now running linux, and copying my old Windows IPFS repo to linux doesn't work, hangs the daemon at start
<Mateon2> Can't really provide any debug info, as the IPFS daemon doesn't start its API yet, so no pprof API endpoints to probe
<keks[m]> I am not sure but I would guess the repo locking might work different due to different file system API
<Mateon2> Well, the lockfile shouldn't be the issue here, ipfs repo fsck clears it
<keks[m]> Hmm
<Mateon2> Oh nice
<Mateon2> I got an error on CtrlC now
<Mateon2> ... I just tried sharing the error message over IPFS... Well that won't work
<Mateon2> Also, any operation, `ipfs cat/ls/refs` `ipfs files stat/ls` `ipfs object` `ipfs dag/block` all return the same error message:
<Mateon2> Error: error loading filesroot from DAG: merkledag: not found
<Mateon2> ^ that's without daemon
<Mateon2> There is nothing that could possibly create this error message
<Mateon2> Oh, sorry
<Mateon2> The ErrNotFound being a variable/constant threw me off
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<Mateon2> Ugh, I don't get this, IPFS is trying to get some weird hash on startup, never does, and thus never starts. Why does it request any blocks at all before setting up the API?
<deltab> is it the initial directory for 'ipfs files' commands?
<Mateon2> For ipfs files, I'm just doing `ipfs files ls /` `ipfs files stat /`
<Mateon2> That's without the daemon, as with the daemon it can't lock
<Mateon2> And the API isn't started
<deltab> o those commands work okay?
<deltab> ^do
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<Mateon2> No, "merkeldag: not found"
<deltab> my guess is that somehow it has a reference to a block that isn't in the store
<deltab> though... wouldn't that result in ErrNotFound?
<Mateon2> ErrNotFound IS "merkledag: not found"
<deltab> yeah, but I mean line 634 is reached
<deltab> whereas line 620 checks for ErrNotFound and uses the empty dir instead
<Mateon2> Oh, so yes, line 634 is reached
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<deltab> any more details in the log?
<deltab> is there a log.Event(ctx, "
<deltab> er
<deltab> is there a "Bitswap.GetBlockRequest.Start" event?
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<Mateon2> There are only errors in the log, and I can't change log levels with `ipfs log level` because the API isn't available...
<Mateon2> Same with ipfs log tail
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<keks[m]> Mateon2: ipfs -D?
<keks[m]> I don't think you'll see log.Event, but at least log.Debug
<keks[m]> and you can add more log.Debug whereever you need it
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<Mateon2> Not building from source at the moment, using 0.4.6 release
<Mateon2> Or whatever 0.4.6 version there is on Nixpkgs
<Mateon2> Hm, it's extremely chatty
<Mateon2> Let me clear my bootstrap peers
<keks[m]> yeah -D is super verbose
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<deltab> hmm, so it looks like as part of starting up, the daemon creates a new node, which has to get QmQfJvzsYtfJ4BWwV7sGuiSVbUZFAUoW4Lg3at7eSXoKev for the files root. The block service requests that from bitswap, but without bootstrap peers nothing much happens (just some mdns queries). Finally it gets a signal to shut down, cancels the context in which QmQfJvzsYtfJ4BWwV7sGuiSVbUZFAUoW4Lg3at7eSXoKev is requested, causing error messages to be generat
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<deltab> open questions: why isn't that block available locally? why are there no bootstrap peers? could NewNode complete without getting the files root block, maybe using a promise?
<Mateon2> deltab: Yep, but it doesn't get QmQf... from bitswap even with peers, even if I let it do so for several hours
<deltab> I tried resolving it and couldn't; maybe only you had it
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<Joeblew99> Can i use the Multiformats with ipfs now ? I want to write apps that are p2p and use QUIC
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<Mateon2> Joeblew99: You have to be more specific, IPFS already uses a lot of multiformats, and did so for a long time. Multiaddr: /ip4/1.2.3.4/tcp/1234/ipfs/QmBlah, Multihash/CID, Multibase, etc.
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<Joeblew99> Matron. Thanks good to know. I found one example so far, but am looking for more examples to get a feel for it. The example i have so far is very new and incomplete.
<Mateon1> Ah, you want libp2p examples
<Joeblew99> It seems the library to use. The app i want to build is like Google docs
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<Mateon1> Joeblew99: You might be interested in https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p/tree/master/examples
<Mateon1> js-libp2p is an implementation in Javascript, so it can run in browsers
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<keks[m]> Joeblew99: also make sure to check out orbitdb.
<Mateon1> Huh, all the Javascript examples are empty, apart from the first one
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<Joeblew99> Thanks. I found d orbit last night. It's a good example but it seems to all be JavaScript. I am doing the client in 100% golang using shiny. Will run on desktop and mobile with no other dependencies. The GUI lib on top of shiny is called Nuklear. It's very fast, easy
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<keks[m]> Ah I see. Actually I started porting orbitdb to go, but while I was working on something else the js version was improved further
<keks[m]> I wouldn't call it production code, butter isn't super buggy either
<keks[m]> I'm on mobile...
<keks[m]> But it
<Joeblew99> On mobile freenode is super hard to use:. Joeblew99 at Gmail dot com is my email. If you can spare a bit of time for chat about go port of orbit
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<keks[m]> Joeblew99: I dropped you a mail
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<keks[m]> :)
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<Kubuxu> lidel: we are also in Snap, which is pgk manager for Ubuntu (apart from core apt).
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<Kubuxu> lidel: aah, you are asking about distributing packages using ipfs
<Kubuxu> not that I know of
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<lidel> thanks
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<Kubuxu> lidel: thank you a lot for contributing, responding and so on.
<lidel> yw, random bursts of caffeine overdose ;)
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<AphelionZ> if I'm doing keygen in the browser can I use standard RSA 2048 keys?
<AphelionZ> or do I need to do something special with ipfs
<Kubuxu> AphelionZ: there are tools for that in js-ipfs somewhere
<Kubuxu> you might have hard time importing that key into ipfs world
<AphelionZ> hmm ok
<Kubuxu> but yes, it is RSA 1024-4096
<AphelionZ> I want to do a decentralized auth
<Kubuxu> 1024 is mostly used during testing
<AphelionZ> basically clients generate keys locally and are in charge of maintaining them
<AphelionZ> and then content is written to ipfs encrypted with those keys
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<AphelionZ> that way no central auth server or user pool is needed
<Kubuxu> yeah, that is how ipfs does it
<Kubuxu> you can use this lib: https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-crypto/
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<Kubuxu> generating keys in browser and nodejs is harder than it looks
<AphelionZ> I believe it!
<AphelionZ> what are the specific challenges?
<Kubuxu> mostly api incompatibilities and finding right right polyfills
<Kubuxu> but this module should work for you
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<keks[m]> #freenode_#squatconf:matrix.org
<keks[m]> oh dang sorry
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<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping, lgierth: I have plan for reworking namesys drawn out. It will make it faster, new resolvers simpler and more pluggable.
<Ronsor> faster
<Ronsor> i like that
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<Kubuxu> yeah, and will also enable the gateways to set cache headers for /ipns/
<Kubuxu> which currently isn't possible
<Kubuxu> mostly by simplifying the single resolver and shifting the recursive resolver to namesys from each resolver
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<Ronsor> ok
<Ronsor> so IPFSIRCd v2 is based on ngircd
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<Ronsor> I'll have a release today that works
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<Ronsor> K-lined: gk!*@*
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<Powersource> whyrusleeping: shit broke again :( https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/3772
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<Kubuxu> Powersource: which version are you running? If not master, mind giving it a try?
<Powersource> Kubuxu: 0.4.6
<Kubuxu> can you try master, I have updated fuse lib since then
<Powersource> but sure i'll try that
<Kubuxu> and it fixed some issues we were seeing
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<Powersource> Kubuxu: I installed the -git aur package and rebooted and it seems to work now!
<Powersource> but i'll wait a bit now until closing the issue again :)
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<Kubuxu> Powersource: if it solved it, it should be solved for good
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<Powersource> Kubuxu: yes but we don't know if it working now is for the same mysterious reason as before or because of a fix
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<lgierth> grrrrr
<lgierth> how long can it take to rm -rf 1.6 TB
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth what fs?
<lgierth> btrfs on spinning disks
<lgierth> /dev/md3 on /mnt/data type btrfs (rw,relatime,space_cache,subvolid=5,subvol=/)
<whyrusleeping> odd... btrfs shouldnt have an issue with that
<lgierth> i should have just done umount && mkfs.btrfs
<lgierth> mh, something's fishy. umount taking ages too
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<whyrusleeping> do you not want any of the data?
<whyrusleeping> just umount -f
<lgierth> it eventually returned :)
<lgierth> yeah i wanted to throw away the whole repo
<lgierth> i restarted the benchmark with refs -r, but do you think pin with mplex would be useful too?
<lgierth> ah saw other message -- ok will do pin with mplex
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: also maybe try --routing=none on auva
<lgierth> fucking double chat windows
<whyrusleeping> lol
<lgierth> :)
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<lgierth> ok with --routine=none it prints exactly ten refs and then nothing more
<lgierth> and it doesn't look it's doing much either
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<lgierth> only 270 goroutines, stable :)
<whyrusleeping> Oh, you'll have to manually connect the machines
<lgierth> ah word
<lgierth> (still wonder where those 10 refs come from)
<lgierth> ah -- the gateways
<lgierth> it does bootstrap, but no content or peer routing
<lgierth> word
<whyrusleeping> yeap
<lgierth> no way
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<lgierth> it's not TXing 10MB/s anymore which is expected
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<lgierth> but it's also only consume 183 goroutines
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<lgierth> and 36 FDs
<lgierth> and 0.5s less gc time
<lgierth> and 1s cpu vs. 4s cpu x)
<lgierth> so which knob do i turn regarding the concurrency limit on that
<lgierth> it like to max out whatever the bottleneck is
<lgierth> *i'd
<whyrusleeping> hrm.... use pin instead of refs
<lgierth> ok
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<lgierth> is there difference between refs -r and pin add big?
<lgierth> *the
<lgierth> my simplified view of it has always been that pin internally does the same thing
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: yeah, pin add uses enumerateChildrenAsync
<whyrusleeping> and refs does a layer by layer traversal
<whyrusleeping> its less efficient, but it does provide some sort of ordering
<whyrusleeping> I considered changing refs out, but then the output would change order
<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: ipfs refs --fast
<Kubuxu> --fast - output order is not determined
<whyrusleeping> that works for me
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<whyrusleeping> !pin QmQCSYBkVKY2Am8WU8iJ2i2qYB59TyiPHs9ZxASuxsEkbH dists with 0.4.7-rc1
<pinbot> now pinning on 8 nodes
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<pinbot> pinned on 8 of 8 nodes (0 failures) -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmQCSYBkVKY2Am8WU8iJ2i2qYB59TyiPHs9ZxASuxsEkbH
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<whyrusleeping> hey lgierth
<whyrusleeping> :D
<Ronsor> ipfsircd v2 is nearly done
<Ronsor> it will be easier to setup too
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<whyrusleeping> Ronsor: do you have it deployed somewhere?
<Ronsor> well my test server is on currently
<Ronsor> the IPFS-based backend is nearly done
<Ronsor> basing it off of an existing IRCd makes my job relatively easy
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<Ronsor> whyrusleeping: it nearly works
<Ronsor> and then i'll put it on GitHub
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