lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.7 is out, and v0.4.8-rc1 too! https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs | Week 11+12: Documentation https://git.io/vyHgk | Roadmap: https://waffle.io/ipfs/roadmaps | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<kumavis> Firefox to intends to publish binaries in a merkle tree
<achin> merkletree is besttree
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<kumavis> @whyrusleeping what encoding is optimal for domain names? (case insensitive)
<whyrusleeping> kumavis: https://github.com/neocities/hshca
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<kumavis> beaut
<kumavis> thanks
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: have you started on ipfs pin update?
<whyrusleeping> If not i'm itching to write some graph traversal stuff and i'll take a hack at it soon
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: no, just the verify, what did you have in mind
<whyrusleeping> Oh, i just wanted to implement ipfs pin update
<kevina> nevermind, It took me a second for it to register
<kevina> go for it
<whyrusleeping> it seems fun right now (and a good break from everything else)
<kevina> it is unrelated to verify
<kevina> whyrusleeping: BTW I am more then willing to help out with some of more mechanical things, such as bulbing up dependencies
<kevina> I just might need some guidance the first few times until I get the hang of it
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: cool :) there isnt any bubbling to do right now, but next time there is i'll let you know
<whyrusleeping> the tool we're working on for it is gx-workspace
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<alu> pretty interesting also since pied piper was kinda like IPFS ["It's everywhere but nowhere!"]
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<kumavis> in the mozilla irc asking about their "Binary Transparency" effort
<kumavis> I want to reccomend cid and a few other things
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<kumavis> they use the merkle tree defined here https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6962#section-2.1
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<kumavis> at the leaves will be hashes of their binaries
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<kumavis> so we define a RFC6962 merkle tree resolver, but then do we have the last-mile-resolve problem?
<kumavis> maybe not bc they are just binaries?
<kumavis> ipfs dag get <ff-release-root>/<path-name-of-file-chunked-on-half-bytes(?)> > linux-i686-as-firefox-53.0b2.tar.bz2
<kumavis> i actually dont undetstand how RFC6962 paths work yet...
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<arrdem> Heya - who do I need to ping to get a review on https://github.com/libp2p/go-maddr-filter/pull/1 ?
<arrdem> Doesn't look like the repo has any watchers at present.
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<hsanjuan> arrdem: you wishes have been granted :)
<hsanjuan> your*
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<hsanjuan> Kubuxu: where are the PNets instructions for go-ipfs?
<Kubuxu> and libp2p/spec PR
<hsanjuan> thx
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<nannal> Hey
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<nannal> So ipfs is pretty cool, I stumbled across it yesterday, got it installed and started playing
<nannal> can I run du -a on a hash at all, like see how big it is before I try and get it
<achin> ipfs object stat <hash>
<nannal> Thanks
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<warbo> is it easy to find which files in the go-ipfs blocks/ dir correspond to particular ipfs objects?
<warbo> I see there's a _README, which talks about converting base58 CIDs to base32, etc.
<warbo> but playing with the nodejs libraries to convert these things, the outputs don't seem to correspond to any filenames
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<whyrusleeping> warbo: so, take a hash like QmRgutAxd8t7oGkSm4wmeuByG6M51wcTso6cubDdQtuEfL
<whyrusleeping> (which is 'echo foobar | ipfs add')
<whyrusleeping> then convert it from base58 to base32
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<whyrusleeping> I get CIQDDQ6VOCANQRR2HRR3FER56WQ5ICWXU47K4WQUV5MEEE7F6UCKYMYV
<whyrusleeping> then take the second to last two characters (the final character doesnt necessarily have a full 5 bits of data)
<whyrusleeping> 'MY'
<whyrusleeping> and do: cat ./blocks/YM/CIQDDQ6VOCANQRR2HRR3FER56WQ5ICWXU47K4WQUV5MEEE7F6UCKYMY.data
<whyrusleeping> It seems that the bytes are reversed in the table for some reason
<whyrusleeping> oh wait no, i'm just reading it wrong
<whyrusleeping> its the second to last *pair* of characters
<whyrusleeping> meaning 'YM'
<frood> that seems like an odd choice
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<whyrusleeping> frood: Yeah, i remember the exact reasoning for it now
<whyrusleeping> since in base32, each character is 5 bits
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<whyrusleeping> you can end up in a situation where the last two characters arent necessarily entirely random
<whyrusleeping> (or at least an even distribution)
<whyrusleeping> since we don't make any guarantees about the length of a hash, relying on the last two characters caused weird bucketing behaviour, certain directories would have much more or much less items
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<achin> i would be neat to provide a tool that can decode and convert between all these different hash types and encodings. bonus points for making the tool JS-based an IPFS-hosted
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<arrdem> hsanjuan: thanks!
<arrdem> will address your nits in a minute here.
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<whyrusleeping> achin: github.com/whyrusleeping/bases
<whyrusleeping> also, for changing cid's around: github.com/whyrusleeping/elcid
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<achin> whyrusleeping wins most of the points, but still no bonus points for JS :)
<whyrusleeping> achin: pfffft, i prefer sanity over bonus points ;)
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<achin> clearly we need a go-to-js transpiler
<mmuller> Doesn't everything compile to JS at this point?
<mmuller> I mean, do we even actually have CPUs still?
<achin> maybe we're all brains in jars floating in the interwebclouds
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* whyrusleeping tries running gopherjs on bases
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<whyrusleeping> !pin /ipfs/QmWbqocNBQEDUG7PzT9oACvymhwe3h2tDoMhfJTDAZeddp new dists with 0.4.8 release
<pinbot> now pinning on 8 nodes
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<whyrusleeping> yay slow wifi
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<pinbot> pinned on 8 of 8 nodes (0 failures) -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmWbqocNBQEDUG7PzT9oACvymhwe3h2tDoMhfJTDAZeddp
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<airbouy> Anyone else get a problem with using ipfs get, in that it stalls after a certain point, and stays stalled?
<airbouy> Using go-ipfs 0.4.7 by the way.
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<whyrusleeping> !pin /ipfs/QmQV4baHyV7FFaF4j7BQZYEXSSABFYY4YkWFMAscf6fm62 dists with new ipfs-cluster builds
<pinbot> now pinning on 8 nodes
<whyrusleeping> airbouy: what sort of content are you calling 'get' on? and who has it?
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<whyrusleeping> also, how far does it get? and how long do you wait for the stall to potentially resume?
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<airbouy> Any content seems to stall.
<whyrusleeping> for how long?
<airbouy> I've let it go for about ~6 hours, when I came back, it was still stalled.
<whyrusleeping> I've seen similar issues where it appears to stall for a bit, and then goes really fast for a bit, but that was because of out of order object fetching
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<whyrusleeping> 6 hours would mean its a different issue
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<whyrusleeping> airbouy: are you sure the content youre trying to fetch is actually available?
<whyrusleeping> whats the hash?
<airbouy> Works if I use the gateway on firefox
<whyrusleeping> does it work in that you can see the listing page? or can you download *everything* through the gateway?
<airbouy> I can dl pretty much everything through the gateway
<whyrusleeping> just loading a hash on the gateways means the root object is cached, the rest might not be
<airbouy> Maybe if I try another hash?
<whyrusleeping> try: /ipfs/QmWbqocNBQEDUG7PzT9oACvymhwe3h2tDoMhfJTDAZeddp
<whyrusleeping> thats one i know for certain is pinned places
<airbouy> Okay, it's started, 1014.65kb so far
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<pinbot> pinned on 8 of 8 nodes (0 failures) -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmQV4baHyV7FFaF4j7BQZYEXSSABFYY4YkWFMAscf6fm62
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<airbouy> Now 14.98mb, ETA 7h. maybe it was just a problem with the seeders
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<airbouy> @whyrusleeping, thanks.
<whyrusleeping> airbouy: no problem, we need a better UX around this
<whyrusleeping> like, a message for something like 'no new data received in a while'
<whyrusleeping> some way of signalling that ipfs isnt broken, theres just no data anywhere
<airbouy> Just running the daemon from terminal doesn't help, it'll just say "i/o error" or "timeout error", which doesn't really give a lot to go on.
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: can you give me some background/context on the use of hamt shards
<kevina> whyrusleeping: more to the point where is the new hamt shard code used in ipfs
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: unixfs/hamt
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<whyrusleeping> and unixfs/io/, in the directorybuilder
<whyrusleeping> lidel: woo!
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: how do you enable it in ipfs add?
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: any sharness tests for it
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: there are tests in t0250, t0260
<kevina> whyrusleeping: so I take it a hamt node is always ipfs v1
<kevina> whyrusleeping: not sure how to test the SetPrefix for a HAMT directory
<kevina> whyrusleeping: unless we change the hash used
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: I suppose I could write a unit test, are any other hash functions available right now
<kevina> whyrusleeping: but it kind of outside the scope if the v1 switch for ipfs add...
<whyrusleeping> no, a hamt node doesnt have to be cidv1
<whyrusleeping> its just a unixfs type
<kevina> oh okay, I think I can test it then
<kevina> I will have something tonight
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<whyrusleeping> sounds good! thanks :)
<d10r> Hi. I wonder how to configure ipfs such that I can keep it running on my notebook without worrying about what network I'm in (e.g. mobile phone tethering). I just tried to restrict it to only connect to my server ipfs node by having only that in bootstrap node list and disabling discovery. Still, I end up with >300 connected peers when starting the daemon. Is there a way to have it connect only to my server?
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<d10r> Btw. in order to be able to publish files with such a setup, I built a simple bash script based replication solution: https://gist.github.com/d10r/ee35731b2f2ca43014b464547cc5c100, https://gist.github.com/d10r/371db3b19e0b0a322d957f088b3aeb72
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<whyrusleeping> d10r: connection whitelisting is something we should probably think about adding
<whyrusleeping> d10r: for now, i recommend turning off the reprovider, and running your daemon with --routing=none or --routing=dhtclient
<whyrusleeping> with routing=none you will only be able to get content from nodes youre already connected to, (your server in this case)
<whyrusleeping> d10r: you can turn off the reprovider with `ipfs config Reprovider.Interval "0"`
<d10r> Thanks, that sounds like what I'm looking for. Since I need the local node only for pushing content, that's ok.
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<whyrusleeping> lidel: now that its a webextension, can we also use it in chrome?
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<nannal> hey again, so I'm looking at the deamon help page
<nannal> " --unrestricted-api bool - Allow API access to unlisted hashes."
<nannal> What does it mean by unlisted hashes
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<whyrusleeping> nannal: by default, you cant access just any hash at localhost:5001/ipfs/...
<whyrusleeping> for security reasons, its restricted to just the webui
<whyrusleeping> that flag allows you to bypass this for development
<nannal> I'm still not following
<nannal> so suppose I write my own valid hash
<nannal> by default I can't go to it
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<nannal> but even if I could, what would be there, it's not like I'm going to generatea bunch of data, hash it, check if it's my hash and if not start again
<whyrusleeping> nannal: on the api port
<whyrusleeping> you can do whatever on the gateway port
<whyrusleeping> or through ipfs cat
<whyrusleeping> (and other commands)
<nannal> Okay I think I get it, it's to stop someone accessing the gateway and then sending a large number of get requests for valid-but-none-existant hashes thereby causing the node to do a bunch of lookups that are never going to complete
<whyrusleeping> nannal: no, its to prevent someone from tricking you into clicking a link like: https://localhost:5001/ipfs/QmFooBar that loads some javascript that can access and control your ipfs node
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<nannal> Okay light switch moment, I'd misinterpreted the meaning of unlisted, "this is grant access to the API to.."
<nannal> cool thanks
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<frood> this is the same reason browsers have unsafe port lists.
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<frood> web browsers are just scary. we should stop using them.
<whyrusleeping> frood: yeah, my least favorite activity is figuring out of $CHANGE_TO_API_CODE will introduce some terrible security bug
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<frood> that's good.
<frood> HTTP has a lot of weird security headers and policies because vulnerabilities like that are hard to predict
<frood> CSRF, CORS, CSP, anything remotely touching iframes
<nannal> dont forget XSS
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<nannal> also I'm halfway through the "Stanford Seminar", pretty inspireing
<nannal> is there anything outside of the ipfs talks on the community page that I should look into?
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<nannal> talks wise I mean
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