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<whyrusleeping>
pawn: it uses websockets and webrtc
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<lidel>
lgierth, there should be no problem to detect them, convert and redirect to canonical one
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<lidel>
(yes, fqdn is case-insensitive when origin is calculated, but add-on has access to case-sensitive string, so we can do lossless conversion before actual request is sent)
<whyrusleeping>
lidel: thats great to hear that its case sensitive in the add-on
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<lidel>
i think even with legacy add-on you can see difference between ipfs://QmYHNYAaYK5hm3ZhZFx5W9H6xydKDGimjdgJMrMSdnctEm and ipfs://QmYHNYAaYK5hm3ZhZFx5W9H6xydKDGimjdgJMrMSdnctem
<lidel>
:)
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<lidel>
host case is ignored only during origin calculation
<whyrusleeping>
interesting, and for the origin calculation we can just convert to base32 or so?
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<JustinDrake>
(Stupid question.) Can I confirm that the change from CIDv0 to CIDv1 does not affect peer ids or the peer id XOR metric used by the DHT?
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<Kubuxu>
JustinDrake: the DHT uses sha256 of the peerid iirc
<Kubuxu>
AFAIK currently there is no plan to introduce CID there
<JustinDrake>
@Kubuxu: Thanks. The name CID does have “Content” in it, but it may make sense to generalise to identities also.
<Kubuxu>
yeah, IDK
<hsanjuan>
do we want to eventually use CIDv1 everywhere and make this default?
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<hsanjuan>
Kubuxu: PNets officially out?
<Kubuxu>
in master
<hsanjuan>
libp2p-wise I mean?
<hsanjuan>
can I use them in latest libp2p?
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<Kubuxu>
yes
<hsanjuan>
awesome Kubuxu :) great work!
<hsanjuan>
some needs to bump the channel topic to v4.5.6
<hsanjuan>
someone*
<demize>
Kubuxu: You should have an alias or script that updates the topic at the same time as you poke me :p
<Kubuxu>
hah :p
<Kubuxu>
I do that because I use it myself on non-dev machines.
<demize>
:D
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<haad>
!pin QmXXQhTeuKrmighrwEyaF9X7fGsB7XyYAQCjtkBRdhTfNg orbit-web almost there
<haad>
lgierth: can you deploy QmXXQhTeuKrmighrwEyaF9X7fGsB7XyYAQCjtkBRdhTfNg to orbit.chat please?
<lgierth>
ok
<haad>
it's a good one :)
<lgierth>
ok there you go
<lgierth>
might take a few seconds or so
<haad>
thank you!
<haad>
should add a version number/id to the builds
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<AphelionZ>
how can I find out the full peer id of earth.i.ipfs.io ?
<AphelionZ>
for example :
<AphelionZ>
:) sorry, slowly working through all this
<AphelionZ>
if I can just get this last piece I can publish the pastebin today
<AphelionZ>
and get more feedback :D
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<KheOps>
Hi, giving a try to IPFS so I'll ahng out here and bug with questions from time to time :)
<seharder>
lgierth: Juan created an issue a few days ago to change the test-lab back to interplanetary-lab
<seharder>
lgierth: however, its not clear if this was open for discussion or not. Should I go ahead and just do it. Or should we leave it alone.
<Kubuxu>
IMO leave it for now
<seharder>
kubuxu: I'm with you.
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<lgierth>
yaaaaay -- finally back to 16 Mbps ADSL (from 6 Mbps...)
<lgierth>
seharder: yeah let's leave it for now
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<cryptix>
just updated to 0.4.6! really impressed how stable the last releases were. congratZZZ!
<SchrodingersScat>
i'm doing it now :D
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<SchrodingersScat>
Agent Version go-ipfs/0.4.6/
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<lgierth>
:)
<lgierth>
cryptix: happy to hear!
<KheOps>
Crawling out through the documentation didn't allow me to answer this question (might have badly searched): should I open/configure ports on my NAT to better allow peers to connect in?
<lgierth>
now for scaling up -- adding TBs of data is still to slow :)
<lgierth>
KheOps: go-ipfs should take care of it on its own -- NAT-PMP and uPnP
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<cryptix>
still having problems with clonig a large dataset (won't complete and hard to figure out how available it is, force connections, etc) but 0.4.5 was much more tollerable on my smaller VPSes than previous releases
<KheOps>
erhm, it's a NAT in the type of a VM behind a host, so I'm not sure it'll be enough :)
<lgierth>
yeah... there's working code but it's not tested well enough yet i think
* cryptix
might need to get his sh** together and actually help a little again here
<lgierth>
:)
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<KheOps>
Making my first steps; works like a charm :)
* KheOps
sees the cat
<SchrodingersScat>
charms don't work
<KheOps>
They do, I saw it on TV
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<whyrusleeping>
cryptix: sharding large directories hasnt been fixed yet, but we're getting closer
<whyrusleeping>
I have a branch that fixes the issue, but we're having someone else independently implement the data structures to verify that they are good before merging
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<KheOps>
If the node from which I published a name on IPNS goes offline, will peers still be able to resolve the name? (assuming that a feww succesful resolution requests have gone through in the meantime and have had time to spread on the network)?
<whyrusleeping>
KheOps: for about 24 hours, yes
<KheOps>
Thanks! I'm guessing there is a (configurable?) TTL value associated to names?
<KheOps>
--ttl string - Time duration this record should be cached for (caution: experimental).
<KheOps>
:)
<KheOps>
Sorry
<whyrusleeping>
KheOps: you can change the TTL on your end, but other nodes will only store things for 24 hours
<whyrusleeping>
the TTL that youre seeing there is *you* saying how long your record should be valid for (like a DNS record TTL)
<whyrusleeping>
but other nodes will only keep things around for 24 hours unless you ask them to store it again
<whyrusleeping>
(as a way of making sure the dht doesnt get clogged up)
<lgierth>
will they also keep it for 24h it ttl<24*60*60?
<lgierth>
*if
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<whyrusleeping>
lgierth: no
<whyrusleeping>
they keep it min(TTL, 24hrs)
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<keks>
kill me. now.
<Xe>
-- Permission Denied - You're not an IRC operator
<Xe>
can't
<Xe>
sorry
<keks>
i think i found a bug in prometheus and it cost me >1week
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<whyrusleeping>
o.o
<whyrusleeping>
Xe: heh
<whyrusleeping>
keks: what was the issue?
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<keks>
not sure. but prometheus/client_golang/http and net/http disagree whether data has been sent or not
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<whyrusleeping>
>.>
<keks>
i get "WriterHeader has been called", but prometheus thinks otherwise
<whyrusleeping>
feel free to remove that layer temporarily
<keks>
anyway, not sure what this is about
<keks>
yeah right now I add a runtime/debug.PrintStack to net/http
<whyrusleeping>
could be throwing a panic somewhere?
<keks>
I think I'm looking at all the logs..
<whyrusleeping>
hrm...
<whyrusleeping>
If you've got a way for me to reproduce the issue i could take a look
<SchrodingersScat>
isn't it kind of already a decentralized naming system? ipfs
<SchrodingersScat>
not, 'real', enough for you?
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<ogzy>
SchrodingersScat, yes but i want to access it though a domain name without knowing the peer id, domain.bit should be enough for me to access, so i am trying a method for it
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<ogzy>
whyrusleeping, i understand by using a TXT record i can access the ipns address, do you think i can use https://github.com/hlandau/ncdns for decentralized dns?
<ogzy>
whyrusleeping, seems by using this i can bind to a dns server and and use that dns server to add a record for my .bit adress, maybe this can work?
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<whyrusleeping>
ogzy: Yeah, we could probably look at putting ncdns into the namesys resolver
<whyrusleeping>
or yeah
<whyrusleeping>
adding a dns server that serves .bit domains to your resolve.conf would help too
<whyrusleeping>
(if theres an 'official' one, we can probably point our gateways to it)
<whyrusleeping>
cc lgierth
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<Kubuxu>
ogzy: it should work if you have your own dnsmasq which proxies the .bit to namecoin resolver
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<dryajov>
@dignifiedquire @haad been strugling with pull streams a little… can’t figure out how to circuit two duplex streams together...
<dryajov>
any insights ?
<dryajov>
basically… in circuit, at the code of it is obviosly the circuit, how do circuit those two connections together? conA <=> conB
<dryajov>
s/code/core
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<whyrusleeping>
dryajov: cant you just do pull(conA, conB) ?
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<whyrusleeping>
and pull(conB, conA) ?
<dryajov>
thats what I thought… but no such luck
<dryajov>
I think I have to use this pull-pair
<dryajov>
just found it, seems to be exactly what I need?
<dryajov>
pull streams are funky :D
<dignifiedquire>
dryajov: yes pull-pair is what you want if you want to connect two side
<dignifiedquire>
*s
<dryajov>
cool
<dryajov>
gonna try that, thanks
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<resting_theory>
I have questions about IPLD. Can anyone here answer them? Or suggest another venue?
<SchrodingersScat>
don't ask to ask, just ask :(
<resting_theory>
(Wanted to make sure I wasn't spamming the wrong group. :)
<SchrodingersScat>
spamming the right group, baby.
<resting_theory>
I've been working with IPFS for a bit now and thought I understood that IPLD was just a protocol for storing to IPFS...
<resting_theory>
... But I can't figure out what I need to do code-wise to put IPLD data into IPFS. (Unless it's manual.)
<resting_theory>
The IPLD CLI just seems to store stuff locally (?)
<resting_theory>
(I have a series of "enclosures", directories of a few files, in IPFS. I want to build an "outer enclosure" IPLD-ish and link to the inner enclosures. Store it all in IPFS. That a thing?)
<resting_theory>
(I have read through the IPLD site, and a bunch of the code. Again, thought I understood it, but can't make the code do what I thought it should do.)
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<resting_theory>
I see the js-ipld-cli just stores stuff using an ipfs-repo in a new .ipfs-cli folder off my $HOME.
<resting_theory>
(All my ipfs data seems to be under .ipfs)
<resting_theory>
Is that a bug in the ipld-cli? Are they meant to interact? (Kind of thought they were...)
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<resting_theory>
Subfolders in .ipfs/blocks and .ipfs-cli/blocks are different (CIQ?? and 122??? respectively)
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<resting_theory>
It's almost like there's no "example" code in github yet that does what I want - which is what I would have thought the default use case is... which makes me wonder if I'm just using it all wrong...
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<resting_theory>
If I "serialize" my data and then hand it to ipfs.add(), maybe that will be what I need?
<resting_theory>
Seems clunky.
* resting_theory
gets the sense that the 300 users are looking elsewhere at the moment...
<whyrusleeping>
resting_theory: hey! just tabbed over
* whyrusleeping
reads
<whyrusleeping>
resting_theory: yeah...the ipld docs right now are *very* lacking
<resting_theory>
:)
<whyrusleeping>
ipld is a data structure format within ipfs
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<whyrusleeping>
you can define your ipld objects in json and add them to ipfs with `ipfs dag put`
<whyrusleeping>
or you can write them in CBOR manually if you like
<whyrusleeping>
for example: '{"foo": {"/":"QmT78zSuBmuS4z925WZfrqQ1qHaJ56DQaTfyMUF7F8ff5o"}}' is an ipld object
<whyrusleeping>
you can put it into ipfs by doing: echo '{"foo": {"/":"QmT78zSuBmuS4z925WZfrqQ1qHaJ56DQaTfyMUF7F8ff5o"}}' | ipfs dag put
<whyrusleeping>
and it will give you back something like: zdpuAuSJJW6tYCtfpfPMj6zWbZ3Y48oeeCQs8YPzgkNRGFUJY
<resting_theory>
Okay, problem #1 I'm maybe behind on my versions. Don't have ipfs "dag"
<whyrusleeping>
Ah yeah, you'll want to get ipfs version 0.4.5 or higher, we just released ipld support in that version :)
<resting_theory>
But yes, I have JSON and can just send it through. Is there JS support for that call?
<whyrusleeping>
yeap! the js-ipfs-api should have support for it
<whyrusleeping>
as well as js-ipfs on its own
<resting_theory>
Excellent, I'll upgrade and give that a try. Thank you.
<resting_theory>
(Why is the hash different?)
<whyrusleeping>
the hashes starting with 'z' you see are CIDs
<whyrusleeping>
its the new format we're using for content identification
<resting_theory>
Okay, and I can ipfs cat those like the old Qm ones?
<whyrusleeping>
cids let us do a lot of cool things, like represent cids in different base encodings
<resting_theory>
Okay great. Yes I saw the CID code, but couldn't fit it into the context in my head.
<resting_theory>
And the old Qm hashes still resolve because they're like version 0 or something I think.
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<whyrusleeping>
resting_theory: yeap!
<whyrusleeping>
for example, dpuAxSForPxtBPWPQRfnkMvq5W7ooT9uN9xNutvSqypSmToY and f01711220b281c1557d79b77175760a7add644e39ad04f9e99e1d7de4875202cd17416b03 are the same object :)
<whyrusleeping>
er, that first one should be zdpuAxSForPxtBPWPQRfnkMvq5W7ooT9uN9xNutvSqypSmToY
<resting_theory>
Okay, think I got it.
<resting_theory>
Let me upgrade and see if I can make it work. Thanks again.
<whyrusleeping>
no problem :)
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<resting_theory>
whyrusleeping: What's the purpose of the ipld-cli tool? It seems to only interact with itself and not the network. Am I missing something there too?
<whyrusleeping>
resting_theory: i've never even heard of an ipld-cli tool
<resting_theory>
Also, looks like js-ipfs-api hasn't merged dag api support yet. Still sitting in a feature branch.
<resting_theory>
Sure
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<resting_theory>
Weeee.
<resting_theory>
"ipfs repo needs migration"
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<resting_theory>
... and ipfs migration tool doesn't seem to cover 5 -> (6? I presume)
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<Kubuxu>
there is no v6
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<resting_theory>
? "ipfs repo version fs-repo@5"
<resting_theory>
... and I need to "migrate"
<resting_theory>
Fun... fs-repo-migrations tool identifies repo as version 4. Migration seems to have worked.
<resting_theory>
Reports same version string "fs-repo@5"
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<Kubuxu>
what ipfs version are you trying to run?
<resting_theory>
0.4.5 now. Just upgraded from 0.4.4.
<resting_theory>
ipfs repo version reported the same before and after migration. I guess the cli tool reports what it *expects*, not what it sees.
<whyrusleeping>
resting_theory: youll need to download the latest fs-repo-migration tool
<resting_theory>
All good now. I've been able to ipfs dag put some data. It's munged the contents in ways I wasn't expecting, but I'm sure I just don't understand things fully yet.
<whyrusleeping>
did the daemon do it automatically?
<whyrusleeping>
resting_theory: what did it do?
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<resting_theory>
whyrusleeping: I ipfs dag put-ed the equivalent of {files:[{link:{'/':'QmAAA.AAA'}}]} where QmAAA.AAA was an existing ipfs entity (right word?) the result of ipfs add --recursive of a folder containing a few files.
<whyrusleeping>
yes?
<resting_theory>
whyrusleeping: when I ipfs get the resulting hash (hash/files/0/link), it gives me what looks like the result of an ipfs ls on QmAAA.AAA...
<resting_theory>
... which now that I think about it is probably what I should expect.
<whyrusleeping>
seems about right
<resting_theory>
Didn't recognize the "data" entry.
<resting_theory>
The ipfs add --recursive will eventually become more IPLD entities once the Java API supports it. Then things will look nice.
<resting_theory>
Okay, I think I'm good.
<whyrusleeping>
sweet :)
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<AphelionZ>
Hey y'all. How can i discover the peer id of a peer i know of via dns name? I.e. the earth or venus servers
<whyrusleeping>
AphelionZ: heh, not easily
<whyrusleeping>
how do you know a peers name?
<AphelionZ>
Haha because lgierth told me
<AphelionZ>
(Im testing websocket support)
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<AphelionZ>
If its not easy or if its not what i should be doing, thats fine. Im more or less trying to bootstrap with peers that have websockets enabled
<AphelionZ>
Ill push what i have on the pastebin anyway, once i get on the train
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<dignifiedquire>
the next letter maps to the planet
<dignifiedquire>
er is earth
<dignifiedquire>
v is venus
<dignifiedquire>
cc lgierth for confirmation
<AphelionZ>
Thank you!
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<mildred>
Hello, just finished first version of a tool to manipulate the IPFS network. It can advertise and resolve arbitrary records for now. I plan to use it make different naming systems. https://github.com/mildred/ipfs-objects
<mildred>
(got to sleep now)
<whyrusleeping>
mildred: awesome :) I'll take a look
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<whyrusleeping>
mildred: lets chat tomorrow about those patches
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<lgierth>
AphelionZ dignifiedquire: i'll make that dnsaddr records now -- dnsaddr isn't a thing yet but people keep asking about these :)
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<AphelionZ>
lgierth: thank you!
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<AphelionZ>
lgierth: dignifiedquire will this work or do I need to wait for the dnsaddr records: