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<whyrusleeping> kevina: i'm around
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: the approach looks good to me
<whyrusleeping> though it doesnt build :P
<kevina> whyrusleeping: one second let be back out a commit...
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: ok. the p.r. is ready for review
<whyrusleeping> kevina: jenkins still saying it doesnt build...
<kevina> whyrusleeping: it build on my machine, checking to see what circleci says
<kevina> whyrusleeping: ci/circleci passes
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: okay if failed after a merge will rebase and fix
<lemmi> whyrusleeping: so leveldb seems to have a higher constant latency but doesn't grow out of hand. but i just saw leveldb has an option for in memory storage, too.
<whyrusleeping> oooh, interesting. Let me know how that one goes
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: what do you mean by "changed the title to be more amenable to changelogging"
<whyrusleeping> I changed the PR title
<kevina> whyrusleeping: yeah I know what does "more amenable to changelogging" mean
<whyrusleeping> kevina: I'm trying to make PR titles line up with what i would put as the description for this change in a changelog
<kevina> okay that makes more sense, thanks
<whyrusleeping> Yeah, i have a script that generates changelogs from PR titles
<whyrusleeping> just trying to make the release process faster and more efficient for me
<whyrusleeping> ideally pushing out a new release takes up less than four hours of my time
<whyrusleeping> right now, just prepping for the rc has taken about 3-4 hours
<kevina> I see, good idea.
<kevina> whyrusleeping: concerning #3775, are you okay with keeping the old branch around until archived?
<whyrusleeping> kevina: sure
<kevina> thanks
<whyrusleeping> kevina: wanna push your branch here: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs-archived ?
<whyrusleeping> you should have write access there
<kevina> whyrusleeping: wasn't the idea that they will be moved automatically?
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: no, i think Kubuxu was just doing it by hand
<Kubuxu> there is script in repo that does it if branch is older than given time
<Kubuxu> I can put in on cron somewhere
<Kubuxu> but so far I was planning to run it ever so often by hand
<Kubuxu> feel free to put it in there manually either way
<kevina> Kubuxu, whyrusleeping: okay will do manually in a bit, need to concentrate right now on fixing the Cidv1 flag p.r.
<whyrusleeping> kevina: sounds good, thanks :)
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<lemmi> whyrusleeping: memstorage seems to work very well. i can't see any real memory difference to using files, but latency is easily an order of magnitude better
<lemmi> (and it doesn't hurt the ssd so much)
<whyrusleeping> lemmi: ah nice, see how it works for a few hours
<whyrusleeping> then send me the patch :D
<lemmi> whyrusleeping: i let it cook for for the day and report back
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<whyrusleeping> alu: you never fail
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<alu> (´・ω・`)
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<Kubuxu> hah, thanks
<Kubuxu> we do RC releases on Friday nights :D
<lemmi> whyrusleeping: :\ i have the suspicion that the latency measurement is slightly misleading. i got a jump around 6000 entries from ~1ms to over 230ms and now constantly decaying. maybe keeping track of the variance, identifying largy outliers and keeping track of them separately might help.
<whyrusleeping> lemmi: hrm.... good point
<whyrusleeping> i'm just using a direct average
<lemmi> a couple moving averages could also help
<lemmi> but if a single transaction takes seconds and the rest is fine, one probably wants to know about that.
<whyrusleeping> lemmi: if youre feeling adventurous, i definitely accept PRs :)
<lemmi> yeah.. i have a bachelor thesis to finish by the end of next week, so don't expect miracles until then :)
<whyrusleeping> haha, no worries
<whyrusleeping> If i find time i'll get to it too
<whyrusleeping> its now a race to see who finds free time first
<lemmi> it's on
* whyrusleeping goes to do the 0.4.8-rc1 release
<whyrusleeping> tag is pushed, starting builds :D
<tidux> cool
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<whyrusleeping> !pin QmNPo6jhLVtswcYTkWcs3mPn7qxLvXLm9jaPSLFNCVJQ3d
<pinbot> usage: !pin <hash> <label>
<whyrusleeping> !pin QmNPo6jhLVtswcYTkWcs3mPn7qxLvXLm9jaPSLFNCVJQ3d dists with 0.4.8-rc1
<pinbot> now pinning on 8 nodes
<pinbot> pinned on 8 of 8 nodes (0 failures) -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNPo6jhLVtswcYTkWcs3mPn7qxLvXLm9jaPSLFNCVJQ3d
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<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: you are too trigger happy with that `delete branch` button
<whyrusleeping> I'm sorry, its just like, I REALLY want to press it
<whyrusleeping> I realize i probably should have kept a couple of those
<whyrusleeping> but i just cant help myself
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<Kubuxu> you are right, just did it (and repushed) :P
<whyrusleeping> hah, thanks
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<kevina> Kubuxu: what timezone are you in?
<Kubuxu> yes it is 5:30 here
<kevina> just checking :)
<kevina> I am known to do that also
<whyrusleeping> I have a Kuba clock on my task bar
<Kubuxu> just noticed that it is getting bright outside and was "frak"
<whyrusleeping> it tells me what time it is where Kubuxu and lgierth are
<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: don't lie to me, you have Berlin's clock there
<whyrusleeping> hush
<Kubuxu> It is German clock
<whyrusleeping> its a kuba clock okay
<whyrusleeping> YOURE SPECIAL
<whyrusleeping> OKAY
<Kubuxu> so change it Warsaw, NOW
<whyrusleeping> meh
<Kubuxu> it is same TZ
<Kubuxu> :D
<whyrusleeping> Isnt warsaw part of russia?
<whyrusleeping> or was it germany?
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<kevina> :)
<Kubuxu> depending when
<Kubuxu> but Poland had its glory days too
<kevina> I was in Sweden for two years, so in the winter it wasn't hard to get up after the sun set :)
<Kubuxu> aah, but your country didn't exist back then
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<whyrusleeping> Hey Kubuxu, you know how big texas is?
<Kubuxu> do you know how empty it is
<Kubuxu> and what you've got there, desert, some oil and AR15s
<Kubuxu> next desert, this time icey
<whyrusleeping> MOUNTAINS
<whyrusleeping> AND BEARS
<whyrusleeping> AND SALMON
<whyrusleeping> AND TREES
<whyrusleeping> (and some oil)
<whyrusleeping> AND ESKIMOS
<Kubuxu> I would say Texas is better cuz AR15s and beef
<whyrusleeping> AND FLOCKS OF WILD MOOSEN
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: two years in sweden? That sounds pretty cold
<Kubuxu> Have you ever seen ground of this color in US?: http://www.robotyziemneszczecin.pl/images/czarno/1/czarnoziem.jpg
<Kubuxu> This is ground that grows something different than grass and corn
<kevina> whyrusleeping: actually where I was not that cold in the winter, it was fairly south and by the sea. In the winter the temperature was a constant 30 deg (-1 cel)
<kevina> by constant I mean there was no high or low during the day. If you look at a temp graph you would not be able to tell when the sun was up
<kevina> the summers where really nice, you could still see at midnight
<whyrusleeping> kevina: oh yeah, by the sea is always decent
<whyrusleeping> nice :)
<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: okay fine, you have good dirt
<Kubuxu> lol
<whyrusleeping> we have AR15s, Beef, The rocky mountains, and san francisco
<Kubuxu> if it comes in packet with high incarceration rate, wealth gap and no health system (nope what you currently have is no a system), you can have it
<Kubuxu> I like this dirt
<whyrusleeping> We have a great healthcare system. You just have to have a job
<Kubuxu> old, "to not be poor, don't be poor"
<whyrusleeping> Yeap
<whyrusleeping> welcome to capitalist america
<Kubuxu> our Pope said long time ago: "A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members"
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<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: hrm....
<whyrusleeping> I don't know about that
<whyrusleeping> what with capitalism and all
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<whyrusleeping> lemmi: whoa what
<whyrusleeping> is that with the memdb?
<lemmi> yes
<whyrusleeping> i'll bet youre hitting swap or something
<lemmi> nope
<lemmi> RES is 120mb
<lemmi> no problem there
<whyrusleeping> I've had one running with normal leveldb for 27 hours now, 180k records, and 800us latency
<whyrusleeping> why would it randomly spike so high?
<lemmi> no idea. it also seems to stay at 30700 records
<lemmi> no movement at all
<lemmi> oho... and suddenly a whole bunch and the latency shoots up, too
<lemmi> peaked at ~ 30s latency
<whyrusleeping> o.o
<lemmi> and cpu is down to 10%
<lemmi> was over 100% for a while
<whyrusleeping> whoa
<lemmi> something's wonky
<whyrusleeping> Yeah, agreed
<whyrusleeping> I'm running a machine with 10 nodes and it sitse around 7% cpu
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<lemmi> that kind of latency lets me believe that some network connection is maybe in a bad state, the records aren't concurrently accessable and then it hangs. the program doesn't have any disk access, so that's unlikey. i'd be surprised if it's leveldb. ulimits are changed to high values for open fds.
<lemmi> don't have much insight into what's actuall going on, just guessing
<whyrusleeping> Yeah... I'm gonna push an update that allows you to expose a pprof profiling server
<whyrusleeping> so you can use go tool pprof to get cpu and memory profiles
<lemmi> yeah. it was eating a whole cpu while it was hanging
<whyrusleeping> pushed
<whyrusleeping> if you run it with -pprof-port=3000 it will expose pprof info on port 3000
<whyrusleeping> then you can do:
<whyrusleeping> go tool pprof (which dht-node) http://localhost:3000/debug/pprof/{heap,goroutine,profile}
<whyrusleeping> (selecting which profile you want, of course)
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<lemmi> ok, capturing profiles in a loop. hopefully i'm catching something this way
<whyrusleeping> Eh, i would just capture profiles during high cpu usage and take a look at them
<whyrusleeping> I'm off to sleep now though
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<whyrusleeping> if you want me to take a look, send me a copy of your binary, and the profile
<whyrusleeping> (go ahead and file an issue on dht-node and put stuff there)
<lemmi> i don't want to look all the time
<lemmi> i'm saving the 30s profiles under a $DATE-$LOADAVG-profile filename :)
<lemmi> should make things easier to find a profile where things went south
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<Mateon1> Why do I keep having troubles with gx deps? Are they not pinned on the gateways? Or am I not connected well or something?
<Mateon1> (fetching from local node)
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<EGO_NON_SERVIAM[> how do i use ipfs?
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<voker57> for what?
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<EGO_NON_SERVIAM[> what else? Porn.
<tidux> ipfs pin add -w titties.mp4
<tidux> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<EGO_NON_SERVIAM[> don't you mean balls.mp4?
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<EGO_NON_SERVIAM[> or 2girls1cup.mp4?
<tidux> go troll somewhere else
<EGO_NON_SERVIAM[> no, seriously...
<EGO_NON_SERVIAM[> how do i make use of ipfs?
<tidux> read the docs
<EGO_NON_SERVIAM[> what do you use it for?
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<tidux> file transfers and sharing for now
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<noffle> richardlitt: surprised "keep porn out of our community" didn't make it into the CoC (https://github.com/ipfs/community/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md)
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<tidux> probably because that would directly contradict the goal of replacing HTTP
<noffle> tidux: the goals for community participation and inclusion are not the same thing as "things you are free to use ipfs for"
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<Kubuxu> noffle: not arguing for for or against, but it wouldn't be a free network (as in freedom) then
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<ploop> has the ability to insert files without duplicating them on disk been included in a release yet?
<Kubuxu> ploop: yes
<Kubuxu> ipfs add --nocopy
<ploop> thanks
<Kubuxu> but it requires option in config
<ploop> which version was that added?
<Kubuxu> 0.7 iirc
<Kubuxu> if you do `ipfs add --nocopy` it will tell you what to do
<ploop> i should probably be on something newer than 0.4.3 :|
<ploop> thanks though
<ploop> this should make a lot of neat things possible
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<ploop> wait Kubuxu you mean 0.4.7 right?
<Kubuxu> yeah
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<captain_morgan> does a node have a standard size? 1024k?
<Mateon1> captain_morgan: A block is usually smaller or equal to 256k in size
<Mateon1> The network limits blocks to 2048k (something around these lines)
<captain_morgan> ah, thought I saw a connection, ~38GB / 355229 nodes
<Mateon1> Hm, how did you add the content? That's an unusual size
<captain_morgan> I just pinned it
<captain_morgan> its the data from https://github.com/peermaps/peermaps
<Mateon1> Ah, Substack might have added it with a different method
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<captain_morgan> wha? substack doing something differently? never
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<lidel> bikeshedding squad needed: https://github.com/lidel/ipfs-firefox-addon/issues/225 ;-)
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<Nickfost> My webUI shows 0 connected peers, but the chrome extension shows tons. am i missing something?
<Mateon1> Nickfost: The webui can be slow to read all peers your node is connected to
<Mateon1> wait a minute or so, the peers should appear
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<deltab> hmm, why is it slow? how does it update?
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: i have a whyclock :)
<Guest22722> what kind of apps are people building on IPFS?
<lgierth> a whydavidrichard clock actually
<Guest22722> ipfs pics is cool
<Guest22722> IPFS itself is super cool :)
<lgierth> orbit!
<Guest22722> will check that out
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<Guest22722> I'm assuming orbit only uses the pubsub portion of IPFS right, not the filesystem
<Guest22722> got my answer "orbit-db uses IPFS as its data storage and IPFS Pubsub to automatically sync databases with peers."
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<lgierth> and well all ipfs project websites are hosted right out of ipfs
<lgierth> e.g. https://orbit.chat internally resolves to https://ipfs.io/ipns/orbit.chat, which resolves to /ipfs/QmSomeHash (using a dnslink, see dig TXT _dnslink.orbit.chat)
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<tidux> also neocities exports most of their sites as ipfs
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