lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.6 is out! https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs | Week 9+10: 1) Test Lab https://git.io/vysyh 2) Orbit https://git.io/vysSv | Roadmap: https://waffle.io/ipfs/roadmaps | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<AphelionZ> Whats an IPWB
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<pawn> You could put a blockchain on IPFS and then have clients access it by simply knowing the content address, right?
<pawn> If so, what block chains are already on IPFS?
<lgierth> parts of ethereum and zcash
<whyrusleeping> (caution, buggy javascript code)
<whyrusleeping> (and the back button doesnt work, have to refresh if you hit a dead end)
<pawn> Does anyone know when Filecoin will be released?
<lgierth> when it's done :) sorry we really don't have a better answer right now
<lgierth> there's gonna be awesome news soon though
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<pawn> Who are all the peeps working on Filecoin?
<lgierth> a few -- there's gonna be more info with the news soon
<pawn> Is there a simpler explanation to how Filecoin works (will work) other than the white paper?
<whyrusleeping> pawn: we will be publishing a new whitepaper somewhat soon
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<ion> nice
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<richardlitt> haad: You've seen https://github.com/iurimatias/embark-framework, right?
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<lgierth> lidel: about gateway redirects and fs: in the addon -- do you think we can add a header to the request, to signal that the gateway should redirect to fs:/foo and not just /foo (which is http then and changes the address bar)
<lgierth> lidel: if that redirect is fixed, are there other bad issues with the address bar hijacking, apart from it not (yet) being possible in webextensions?
<lgierth> who knows if a redirect to fs:/foo would work lol
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: does the base of a cid play any role in datastore, or is it stripped somewhere? still wondering if base32 vs base58 will get us into problems
<whyrusleeping> every part of the cid is written to the datastore
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<lgierth> ok :(
<lgierth> bases and ipfs:// urls are starting to become a problem
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<whyrusleeping> why/
<whyrusleeping> ?
<whyrusleeping> lgierth:
<lgierth> you take a standard b58 cid, paste it into the browser address bar, it gets converted to b32 because URL standard
<lgierth> now ipfs gets this hash to fetch the stuff, how would we know it was originally b58?
<lgierth> we can't possibly write provider records of a hash for all possible bases
<lgierth> one hacky solution would be a CID CID
<lgierth> a CID that contains another CID
<lgierth> so we retain information about the original CID
<lgierth> sorry i'm using CID and hash kinda interchangably here
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<whyrusleeping> oh. Base information is purely user facing
<whyrusleeping> if you take f01551220414d82e12c78ba0b3ead862c8b66a73ed5e92e9b98556ed9711266bf27234f53 and zb2rhb3CFAFe4kRHaViKD9JE2yLZ2cvwhkQpUBgvoowFGKdw8
<whyrusleeping> and call a.Equals(b) on them
<whyrusleeping> it will return true
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<lgierth> how will that work with content routing?
* whyrusleeping waits
<lgierth> oh. you have these provider records from others, and you call equals() on them
<lgierth> thanks for waiting
<lgierth> :P
<whyrusleeping> we don't use base encoded hashes ANYWHERE other than where users are looking
<whyrusleeping> the multibase stuff is purely UI
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<lgierth> <3
<whyrusleeping> sorry, i thought you were asking about the format bits earlier, not the base encoding
<lgierth> on the UI side i'm still not sure whether we should aim to retain information about the original cid
<lgierth> we tell people that "if the content changes, the hash changes", so if the hash changes, the content must have changed right?
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<whyrusleeping> theres no such thing as an original cid though
<whyrusleeping> there is just different presentations of the same cid
<lgierth> i know, but tell that to a user whose hashes just changed
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<lgierth> :)
<lgierth> the original in this case just means whatever they pasted into the address bar
<whyrusleeping> why do we have to change things in the address bar?
* whyrusleeping is a little behind
<lgierth> ipfs://$cid and dweb:/ipfs/$cid
<whyrusleeping> hrm... the first one is a problem, the second is fine
<whyrusleeping> url paths are case sensetive
<whyrusleeping> but the 'scheme' part isnt
<whyrusleeping> which would include the cid in the ipfs:// example, but not in the dweb one
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<lgierth> yeah it's hopefully just the first (the URL) -- depending on how exactly the protocol handlers will turn out to work, the second (URI) might need to still construct a URL-compliant origin. who knows at this point, might turn out fine, but CSP in browsers is *huge* and making it as close to a URL as possible, lowers the bar
<whyrusleeping> oh, yeah. For the origin we can set a b32 hash
<whyrusleeping> thats no longer user facing
<lgierth> yeah the second is probably fine even if we need construct a base32 origin. origins are not part of the UI
<lgierth> yeah word
<lgierth> (posting a pretty big comment on all that in a bit)
<lgierth> discussion on github turned into a bikeshed (again!)
<lgierth> :)
<whyrusleeping> lol, yay....
<whyrusleeping> bikeshed
<lgierth> wanna proofread? it's designed to end the discussion
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: <3
<whyrusleeping> ship it
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<lgierth> yay
<lgierth> i've had such a big writer's block on this for weeks
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<lidel> lgierth, thanks :)
<lidel> lgierth, we can add headers to requests (there is API for that, both legacy and webextension)
<lgierth> ok awesome -- making a note to find out whether redirects to non-http uris are ok
<lidel> and in theory, if gateway returns redirect to fs:/ipfs/Qm.. browser that has protocol handler should work fine
* lgierth fingers crossed
<lgierth> you were completely right, it was the redirect messing up fs:/ipns, it works fine with the slash: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmVnGzvSDRFVLcEwGzRMvvK3yZtyubrARRDivEQWoNTz8D/screencap.2017-03-07T04:30:28Z.png
<lidel> I guess you could do a quick PoC with legacy addon (it had native fs:/ in address bar and protocol handler)
<lgierth> yeah it sounds pretty doable now
<lidel> ok, need to drive to work, bbl :)
<lgierth> cool see you
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<lindybrits> Hi all! :)
<lindybrits> Long time no bugging anyone on ipfs webchat
<lindybrits> when I require ipfs in node via require("ipfs") and make a new instance new IPFS(), there are a lot of modules it is complaining about not having. what is the best way to resolve?
<whyrusleeping> lindybrits: hrm.... bug dignifiedquire and daviddias[m] about that
<lindybrits> @daviddias[m] and @dignifiedquire - helloo!
<dignifiedquire> why why why
<lindybrits> why why why what?
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<whyrusleeping> someone called
<whyrusleeping> ?
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<lindybrits> @dignifiedquire, would appreciate a comment on that problem I stated above
<dignifiedquire> lindybrits: not sure I understand
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<dignifiedquire> you npm installed ipfs and then ran require('ipfs')?
<dignifiedquire> are you using npm >= 3?
<lindybrits> yes I did
<lindybrits> let me check npm version
<lindybrits> this feels all to familiar... 2.15.11
<dignifiedquire> yeah you will need to upgrade your npm version
<dignifiedquire> also make sure you are running at least the latest node4 or better node6
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<lindybrits> thanks a lot @dignifiedquire! P.S. building pilot involving IPFS, developer and will be talking more to you guys from now onward
<dignifiedquire> cool :)
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<lindybrits> @dignifiedquire meet @Jaco -> my right hand man
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<graffen> Hi guys, I've been away on holiday and just noticed that 0.4.6 is out. Has a changelog been published anywhere yet?
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<graffen> whyrusleeping: awesome, thanks! (I could've just looked there...)
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<bernouli> perhaps rather annoying issue, but ipfs.io uses cert from starcom
<bernouli> ca which has been widely distrusted afaik
<victorbjelkholm> bernouli: yeah, we have a open issue for fixing that here: https://github.com/ipfs/infrastructure/issues/212
<victorbjelkholm> but involves more than just changing the cert on ipfs.io. We need a general solution we can apply for all our websites
<bernouli> i see
<Kubuxu> yeah, our current cert covers 3 domains and wildcard
<Kubuxu> s/and/with
<Kubuxu> so it is not that easy to migrate of to let's encrypt
<Kubuxu> or get new cert
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<kpcyrd[m]> have you checked out https://traefik.io/ ?
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<kpcyrd[m]> if you accept unpaid interns I'd love to work on your setup ;)
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<SchrodingersScat> wut
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<AphelionZ> @daviddias thanks for your feedback. do you want that all under ipfs.repo.exists like you mentioned in the issue?
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<daviddias> It was one of the options, but I also like it being available on ipfs.repoExists
<daviddias> no need to change that
<daviddias> just the things I CR'ed
<daviddias> thank you for pushing that forward :)
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<AphelionZ> of course. happy to help
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<GK___1wm____SU> part
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<victorbjelkholm> daviddias: what does this mean "Let's converge repoExists and ifRepoExists" you would like the function to be named ifRepoExists instead of repoExists?
<AphelionZ> victorbjelkholm: my read on that was that he wanted repoExists
<AphelionZ> also based on what he said earlier in this chat room
<victorbjelkholm> ah, but that was the name all along, no?
<AphelionZ> there are two functions
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<daviddias> victorbjelkholm: if you check the PR code
<daviddias> it has a ifRepoExists
<daviddias> and repoExists
<daviddias> one that is sync
<daviddias> and another that is async
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<victorbjelkholm> daviddias: in the PR? Talking about this one: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/pull/776/files there seems to only be one exported function here. Or you're talking about on js-ipfs-repo? In that case, seems to only be one there too, `exists`, which is async
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<AphelionZ> victorbjelkholm: in /src/core/utils.js there are two functions
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<victorbjelkholm> AphelionZ: thanks! Now I get it
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<AphelionZ> np :)
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<pawn> If I subscribed to Filecoin's news by entering my email address on filecoin.io, then does that mean I will be emailed when a new white paper is released on Filecoin?
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<Kubuxu> if we remember
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<grzes_> can i run ipfs node right inside a browser? without nodejs?
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<Ronsor> hey
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<whyrusleeping> grzes_: yep
<Ronsor> my IPFSIRCd is nearing beta
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<grzes_> whyrusleeping: soo where it stores the data?
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<AphelionZ> grzes_: in indexedDB
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