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<dryajov>
dignifiedquire: diasdavid: lgierth: good news… seems like I’ve finally got to a point were I can relay as a transport… bad news is that I ran into some weird issues… hopefully all realted to my env?
<dryajov>
I’ve updated the PR with some info on the issues… I’ll push my WIP if anyone is willing to take a look
<whyrusleeping>
dryajov: do we have a relay spec?
<dryajov>
yep
<whyrusleeping>
I feel like i missed a whole bunch...
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<w0t>
hey, can anyone help me?
<engdesart>
With what, exactly?
<w0t>
well i tried getting a hash, but it just stops at 6mb and never moves again
<w0t>
i'm completely new to this
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<engdesart>
It sounds like a problem with the host of the file.
<w0t>
like it downloads the first 14 files out of 100~ and just stops
<w0t>
no idea what is going on
<w0t>
...isint the whole point of this thing to avoid problems with the host?
<w0t>
the daemon is throwing this out constantly "←[0;37m03:55:26.122 ←[31mERROR ←[0;34m bitswap: ←[0mError writing block to datastore: Access is denied. ←[0;37mbitswap.go:303←[0m"
<engdesart>
It's mostly to avoid problems with a simgle host.
<engdesart>
Not sure why it would say that access is denied.
<w0t>
and i'm on windows; no complicated permission magic here.
<engdesart>
Huh, I haven't tried ipfs on windows, so I can't really give any advice on what could be the problem.
<w0t>
and the install script that came with it was for linux, so yeah, i dont think they tried very hard for it
<w0t>
ever seen that access denied error before?
<engdesart>
I know that some of the files that I was looking for some time ago weren't available because the host dropped out of the network and didn't come back. Only a few of those files were pinned by others, so only those pinned by people connected to the network can be accessed.
<engdesart>
No, never seen the access denied error before.
<w0t>
huh
<w0t>
damn
<w0t>
and google's no help
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<w0t>
thing is, on the ipfs.io page, the files are there
<w0t>
"a Infopath form published in a sharepoint list which is connecting to UserProfileService.asmx"
<w0t>
considering i havent the slightest goddamn idea what any of that means i suppose it's not the same thing
<engdesart>
Basically, it looks like Windows doesn't like when applications massively use the loopback area, which is used as a sort of layer between your browser and the ipfs network.
<w0t>
dosent seem IPFS related at all
<engdesart>
No clue what that means either, but it looks like it created a somewhat similar error.
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<engdesart>
Plus it would kindof make sense. Being able to access files from the ipfs public gateway but not the ipfs local one seems strange.
<w0t>
huh
<w0t>
"Path Resolve error: Failed to get block for QmYJ1zXPo7hkWquDQyvnL9T8BGQSh2d18LgRzggTJAL8Td: context deadline exceeded"
<w0t>
thats on the browser, for another hash
<engdesart>
Huh. It doesn't look like I can get it from my end either. Are you sure that the host computer isn't behind some sort of firewall or something?
<w0t>
absolutely no clue
<engdesart>
Can you still access all or some of the files from the ipfs.io/ipfs/ location?
<whyrusleeping>
w0t: access denied writing block to blockstore is definitely something i've never seen
<whyrusleeping>
are you using different users for anything?
<whyrusleeping>
Is all that youre trying to do fetch some data?
<w0t>
nope, standard run of the mill single-user windows
<w0t>
yup, ipfs get [hash]
<whyrusleeping>
hrm...
<whyrusleeping>
I really have no idea where to start debugging something like that
<whyrusleeping>
Though replace the pictures directory they are talking about with your ipfs directory
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<w0t>
erm now it gives me this "C:\>ipfs daemon \\ Initializing daemon... Error: cannot acquire lock: file "C:\\Users\\user\\.ipfs\\repo.lock" already locked"
<whyrusleeping>
w0t: you can delete that file if youre sure that the daemon isnt running
<w0t>
same thing again
<whyrusleeping>
note that we don't test on windows, so for any of these issues you run into, filing reports on our github repo about them is a great way to help ipfs support on windows get better
<whyrusleeping>
w0t: which same thing?
<w0t>
stops at 4.42%
<whyrusleeping>
do you still get permission errors?
<w0t>
no, now that i think of it i only saw those after i looked in the browser panel; so maybe it was related to that and not the files
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<whyrusleeping>
hrm...
<whyrusleeping>
what is the hash youre looking for?
<w0t>
also would probably be an idea to start testing for the other 90% of the world's computers :P
<whyrusleeping>
w0t: heh, we test on 90% of the worlds server ;)
<whyrusleeping>
but yeah, getting windows CI testing is moving higher and higher on the todo list
<w0t>
alright don't laugh, found it in a facebook thread ipfs and picked that one to see if this worked at all QmVbCbGE39kSpgwX33j3s5XiidgFaY8SdE23VBqtbf8rgc
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<whyrusleeping>
hrm... 142 MB
<whyrusleeping>
randomly clicking through it seems to be mostly available on the gateway
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<whyrusleeping>
the 'ipfs get' progress bar logic is kinda weird somethings
<engdesart>
I can get some of the images, but alot of them seem to no longer be available or hidden behind lots of latency.
<whyrusleeping>
it could say 4%, but still be making progress in the background (blocks could be fetched out of order)
<w0t>
hm well if it was downloading whitout me seeing, i'd see more files appear
<whyrusleeping>
hrm, yeah. Some of the blocks (looking at the graph) seem to be really slow
<whyrusleeping>
must be only hosted on someones really slow home machine
<w0t>
so the files aren't distributed redundantly?
<whyrusleeping>
no, thats not how ipfs works
<engdesart>
Not unless alot of people pin the files.
<whyrusleeping>
anyways, its getting close to 2 in the morning
<whyrusleeping>
i'm gonna get some sleep
<w0t>
damn
<w0t>
alright gnite
<whyrusleeping>
others should be waking up soon, theres plenty around to help :)
<flyingzumwalt>
Enrique Jay Carpenter is working on a new introduction for it this week. The 2 Tutorials that are complete -- "Install IPFS" and "Files on IPFS" are both up to ate
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<Enrique>
Thank you very much for the answer
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<flyingzumwalt>
Happy to help Enrique. Good night!
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<richardlitt>
lgierth: the latter. Thanks! Looks like it works again. Will add the other repos, I guess. I'm trying to extend it so that I can use it, too, so it's not just IPFS-specific
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<hsanjuan>
Kubuxu: is it correct that CidV0 uses multihash but CidV1 uses multibase instead?
<Kubuxu>
V0 is plain multihash, v1 is multibase+cid+multihash
<lgierth>
if starts_with("Qm"): cidv=0 else: cidv=1
<hsanjuan>
ok get it now
<hsanjuan>
on top of all it's a multibase
<hsanjuan>
which encapsulates the rest version-codec-multihash
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<warbo>
hello, I'm using IPFS to host a static site, with an IPNS name pointing at the latest build
<warbo>
since I'm developing and pushing from a laptop, it won't be reachable most of the time
<warbo>
but I have several other machines which can serve it as well
<warbo>
what's the easiest way to ensure they'll be hosting the latest version?
<horrified>
have a cron job that pins the new version every hour?
<warbo>
a simple `ipfs name resolve` and `ipfs get`, in cron?
<warbo>
ah, thought so
<warbo>
I came across the ipfs-cluster stuff and wanted to make sure my use-case isn't that complicated ;)
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<hsanjuan>
warbo: ipfs-cluster is more to ensure those machines have replicas of the content
<hsanjuan>
unrelated to ipns
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<Kubuxu>
Travis is about 10x slower than our CI, crazy.
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<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: sorry that I didn't get to propagating change of go-multihash yet
<Kubuxu>
but I now see that there are PRs open to it
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<Kubuxu>
also I don't know how I missed all of those go-multihash PRs before
<whyrusleeping>
right?
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<whyrusleeping>
someone mention me in an irc message, i need to test something with my notifications
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<dryajov>
awesome
<dryajov>
wrong window :P
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<whyrusleeping>
dryajov: hey. help me out here
<whyrusleeping>
just say my name in an irc message so i can test me notifications
<dryajov>
whyrusleeping
<whyrusleeping>
thaaank you
<dryajov>
weelcome
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<alhof>
hey guys. clarification: in ipfs.js, a instantiated node is only part of the network for as long as that tab is open, correct?
<Ronsor>
it would be impossible for ipfs.js to continue in the background if it's tab is not open
<Ronsor>
not without some new web api i don't know about
<Ronsor>
why is the web so complicated now
<whyrusleeping>
It could go in a webextension
<Ronsor>
that's possible
<Ronsor>
in which case it can run in the background
<alhof>
got it. thanks guys.
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<Mateon1>
whyrusleeping: Regarding Access Denied errors. I used to get them on my Windows machine when running tons of concurrent requests for new blocks, for example, when gx installing with local daemon running.
<whyrusleeping>
weird...
<whyrusleeping>
i wonder if its some form of rate limiting?
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<frood>
Ronsor: somewhere along the way browsers went from "document rendering" to "sandbox for remote code execution" and the web went completely off the rails
<Ronsor>
in a way it's a workaround for closed platforms to still be useful
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<lgierth>
but it's usually useful to frame it as "bad bits"
<lgierth>
and it's of course not easy to have technical debate on irc where everybody and their dog have an opinion ;)
<lgierth>
hahaha
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<lgierth>
ipfspics had a 500 there but ipfs.io loaded it
<lgierth>
best approach to free energy so far
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<google77>
Noob question... When I upload a file to IPFS,and then move the same file to another folder locally, how does IPFS know where I moved the file?
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<google77>
I know it knows it's the same file by it's hash.
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<Ronsor>
ipfs copies files iirc
<Kubuxu>
yes, it copies the file to its own storage
<google77>
and that storage is my repository right?
<Kubuxu>
yes
<google77>
However, when it's in the repository, it's not really in a readable format as I see. I should have guessed this on my own.
<Ronsor>
yeah
<lgierth>
Kubuxu: hasn't experimental filestore been released today?
<Kubuxu>
it was I think
<google77>
What does the experimental file store do vs the one we have now?
<Kubuxu>
if you add file with `--nocopy` then it won't be stored in the repo
<Kubuxu>
but it will use that reference to the file
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<lgierth>
dryajov: hey sorry i haven't been very responsive. is https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-circuit/pull/1 the last state? i was about to ping dignifiedquire as i have no idea about the stream multiplexing in js, but daviddias also said something about having spoken to you :)
<lgierth>
these two are the most likely to be able to help with implementation in js, i can help with go and spec questions
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<dryajov>
hey lgierth! Yeah, I spoke with David, it seems I’m on the right track with things. That pr is the latest, but its pretty rough, so I would rather clean it up before anyone starts reviewing it
<dryajov>
I was able to workaround the issue that was blocking me (tho it might still be there…)
<dryajov>
I’ll clean that up a bit and submit a new PR with the latest changes ASAP
<dryajov>
also, we had a good convo regarding addresses, and I’ll try to document some of the questions that came up during that discussion - I’ll create and issue unre the circuit repo
<lgierth>
oh i meant your last comment -- just to make sure i at least point you to other people if i can't help myself :)
<lgierth>
awesome
<dryajov>
ah :)
<dryajov>
ah, yeah
<dryajov>
I’ll clean my stuff up and we’ll see if thats still an issue… so, I think I’m good for now :)
<dryajov>
you refering to the TCP<->WS dialing, right?
<dryajov>
*order of dialing
<lgierth>
teag
<lgierth>
yeah
<lgierth>
and the spdy/mplex issue
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<dryajov>
yeah, it be nice if someone could try to repro it I can provide more details if needed, but basically doing what I described in the issue should be enough
<dryajov>
no relay is needed as far as I can tell… that way, we can atleast rule out weather its my env or it is a legitimate issue with the transports/muxers
<dryajov>
lgierth: ^^^
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<dryajov>
I know it would not be you lgierth :), someone thats more on the JS side, probably dignifiedquire or diasdavid… but no rush right now, might as well wait for me to clean up the code and then just run the tests on different envs… so, not a pressing issue anymore
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<daviddias>
dryajov: let me know if any other question bubbled up
<daviddias>
I left the chat feeling you got everything you needed right now
<dryajov>
yeah, I’ve got everything… I’m just giving lgierth a rundown of the issue I had plus our convo,
<daviddias>
lgierth: as the spdy/mplex issue, there was some funky connection grabbing happening, we discussed how to simplify the way relay was being 'plugged in' which should fix the problem or at least make it obvious
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<daviddias>
roger :)
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<lgierth>
great thank you
<lgierth>
i'll try to replicate the setup this week
<lgierth>
right now i'm a tiny bit behind on everything :D