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<Kythyria[m]> kszarlej: Why would such a feature even be useful?
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<lgierth> JCaesar witten_: yeah don't use A/AAAA -- i promise you these *will* change
<lgierth> witten_: oh nice, in-browser gateway -- we were talking about that recently with kyledrake
<lgierth> witten_: make sure to post that in ipfs/notes or ipfs/awesome-ipfs
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<lgierth> witten_: what we thought would be really tricky is origins -- you'd want every hash to be its own origin
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<JCaesar> lgierth: Someone recommended using A somewhere… Meh.
<lgierth> witten_: the current server-ish gateway does it via the Suborigin header, but that's only supported in chrome. the origins thing is the one thing that'd make a js-ipfs gateway better than the current server-ish gateway
<lgierth> JCaesar: oh i was just trying to underline what y'all had already agreed on :P
<JCaesar> Now I gotta find where that was posted and tell him "Schöne Grüße" from you.
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<lgierth> we will have stable IPs that people can use with A/AAAA records some time next year
<lgierth> but until then it's a recipe for your site going down with unfortunate timing :)
<JCaesar> Even then I don't see why A is a better idea than CNAME… Okay, maybe it'll save your resolver one roundtrip. But if that is your concern, you probably shouldn't be using public IPFS gateways…
<JCaesar> Ah, well, if you also want MX records on that domain, or something… ok.
<lgierth> CNAME is definitely better
<lgierth> but you might be with a dns provider that doesn't support ALIAS/ANAME
<lgierth> (without that you can't out a CNAME on the root of your domain (= apex))
<lgierth> s/out/put/
<lgierth> right, MX records are an issue too
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<JCaesar> Things about DNS I didn't wish to know. :)
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<lgierth> :)
<lgierth> are you aware of how spain had ISPs block gateway.ipfs.io? they spoofed DNS records
<lgierth> and thanks to how CNAME is resolved, anything that was using a CNAME to that domain was blocked too
<JCaesar> Oooh, nice.
<JCaesar> Hm, so if you have stable IPs, all you need to defeat that is adding a new domain every 10 minutes…
<lgierth> we made a new domain for CNAMEs to point to
<lgierth> only did that because it was affecting dist.ipfs.io
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<JCaesar> Icefoz: The debian repo has symlinks? kek. I mean, you could try replacing those by copies, which cost nothing in IPFS. But I have no idea how you'd acomplish that…
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<deltab> ipfs files cp using a /ipfs path, I believe
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<witten_> lgierth: cool, hadn't thought of origins
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<JCaesar> deltab: Hm, so you keep a copy added and updated manually somewhere, and on each update, you copy that to some ipfs files path, search for symlinks in your original source, and replace them with the appropriate /ipfs/Qm paths in ipfs files… Sounds painful…
<JCaesar> It may be easier to teach the http gateway to do symlinks…
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<deltab> how does it handle them now?
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<deltab> hmm, so how should symlinks be mapped to http? redirects?
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<shamus[m]> probably redirects
<deltab> or resolve them to files?
<JCaesar> redirects to avoid duplicate downloads with intermediate caching proxies.
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<lgierth> deltab: yeah we'd like to redirect symlinks on the gateway
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<JCaesar> 301 for ipfs paths, 302 for ipns/…?
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<deltab> 308 and 307
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<deltab> 302 was ambiguous and can change the method; 301 means "stop using that url, and use this one instead" (which can include editing links)
<witten_> anyone know how the gateway does mime types? so PDFs display as PDFs and images display as images?
<witten_> is that information available somewhere from IPFS files?
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<witten_> deltab: thanks
<deltab> that doesn't seem to cover pdf though
<witten_> but pdfs do render on the gateway
<deltab> yeah
<deltab> so I don't know how that happens
<witten_> maybe that's the browser/client being clever though
<deltab> yeah, looks like
<witten_> response headers appear to have: "Content-Type: application/pdf"
<shamus[m]> firefox and chrome have PDF clients that will launch to view pdf content
<shamus[m]> if it's in the MIME type it just works
<deltab> witten_: how are you seeing that? I see it in LWP output, but not in Firefox dev tools
<witten_> that's exactly where I saw it (FF Network dev tool)
<witten_> yup, I'm seeing "Content-Type: application/pdf" in Response headers on that page on FF 57 on Linux
<deltab> oops, it was the cache entry I saw
<deltab> yep, seeing application/pdf in the uncached response
<deltab> maybe it's applied automatically by the web server (nginx) using the extensio
<witten_> yeah, wouldn't be surprised
<witten_> huh
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<witten_> neato.. I got an IPFS-hosted PDF loading via js-ipfs and rendering in an iframe all client-side
<substack> the new pubsub looks great
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<haad> psa: we gave some love to a JavaScript library of CRDTs https://github.com/orbitdb/crdts. the library has nothing to do with IPFS itself but I know there are many who are interested in CRDTs here, so it might be worth checking out! and would love to get contributions, too :)
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<probono> hi, is https://ipfs.io/ipfs/ a writeable gateway?
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<JCaesar> curl -v -X PUT @$(which ls) ipfs.io/ipfs/QmUNLLsPACCz1vLxQVkXqqLX5R1X345qqfHbsf67hvA3Nn/a/s/d/f/file.ext
<JCaesar> Method PUT not allowed: read only access
<JCaesar> Wouldn't seem so.
<JCaesar> Some are writable, though.
<probono> thanks JCaesar
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<probono> JCaesar: when I upload something like that, how can I set the chunking to -s=rabin-128000?
<JCaesar> As a random guess, you could try ?s=… as a search parameter, but I'm not sure this is even implemented. No idea.
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<probono> so i upload the non-chunked file instead of the $(which ls)?
<probono> and where do i know the hash from?
<JCaesar> That's the base folder you want to put it in. That thing up there is the empty folder.
<JCaesar> If you don't want to put it into any folder, use POST
<probono> so to use a new blank folder, I always literally use "QmUNLLsPACCz1vLxQVkXqqLX5R1X345qqfHbsf67hvA3Nn"?
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<JCaesar> probono: indeed.
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<haad> daviddias: omg the new js-ipfs with websocket-star is fast to connect the peers in the browser! :O
<haad> massive improvement!
<haad> congrats
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<lgierth> haad: now we just quickly need to change it to regular ws transport and circuit relay under the hood :)
<lgierth> before it becomes a bottleneck
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<tiroliro> does anyone here deal with js-ipfs?
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<daviddias> haad: nice! :) As lgierth put it, it is just a mean to an even better end
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<daviddias> tiroliro: what's up?
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<ult> is anyone working on an ipfs browser or automated index?
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<shamus[m]> i don't think so but man that would be cool!
<shamus[m]> IPFS indexing website
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<Fess> we're stuck using google for searches at the moment
<Fess> which is actually very effective if you do it right
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<shamus[m]> i'll add it to the list of shit i want to do someday
<shamus[m]> lol
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<witten_> is the idea that the libp2p-websocket-star transport is a centralized relay, while the libp2p-webrtc-star transport is truly p2p?
<witten_> like, why wouldn't I always just use the more stable websocket transport?
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<shamus[m]> webrtc is more reliable with more peers i would assume
<shamus[m]> since it's designed for that
<witten_> okay
<witten_> I'm finding that regardless of transport, initial content load (ipfs.files.cat) takes a really long time after the js-ipfs node reports itself as "ready"
<witten_> like on the order of tens of 15-20 seconds
<witten_> s/tens of/
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<shamus[m]> hmm
<shamus[m]> not sure about that, not familiar with js-ipfs
<witten_> ok
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<lungaro> ipfs just ate 4 gigs of ram and almost killed my desktop
<lungaro> any ideas on wtf it is doing, the logs show it running out of file descriptors
<r0kk3rz> opening all the connections
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<Stskeeps> y/g kido
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<ult> Fess: Cool. What do your queries look like?
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<zenground0> Do ipfs nodes pinning dags with multiple nodes (e.g. a multi-chunk file) advertise and respond to queries regarding cids of subgraphs of the pinned dag?
<lgierth> zenground0: yes, every single block :) it's actually a bottleneck during add of large datasets. Magik6k has other strategies in the works
<lgierth> when you "want" a block, each of your bitswap peers is asked, and the dht is asked for provider records for the block. provider records are what's sent out on add and regularly in intervals
<zenground0> Word, thanks lgierth
<LaPingvino[m]> are there versions of chat.ipfs.io and peerpad that run 100% on ipfs? I have a friend in Iran and we fear that new censorship would push us more to ipfs to be able to communicate at all...
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<LaPingvino[m]> on the other hand, it's relatively easy to run those locally right?
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<lgierth> LaPingvino[m]: chat.ipfs.io is simply an old version of riot/matrix
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<lgierth> LaPingvino[m]: i recommend Tor for everything, ipfs and riot/matrix are not (yet!) fit for anonymity on their own
<ult> So ipfs works well over Tor?
<lgierth> not yet - there are good first steps towards ipfs-over-tor, but it's not yet fit for general use
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