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<whyrusleeping>
walle303: go-ipfs does have support for managing multiple ipns hashes
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<walle303>
What, since when
<whyrusleeping>
you can use `ipfs key gen` to create new keys, and `ipfs name publish -k` to pick which key to publish
<whyrusleeping>
since...
* whyrusleeping
looks
<whyrusleeping>
november 30th 2016
<whyrusleeping>
ish
<walle303>
what
<whyrusleeping>
yeahhhhh
<whyrusleeping>
I'm not sure how best to announce features
<whyrusleeping>
It goes in the changelog
<muvlon>
oh well
* muvlon
deletes a shitty script that did that
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<walle303>
Are the different keys added to the IPNS FUSE mount?
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<walle303>
It appears not
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<whyrusleeping>
no, the fuse mount hasnt seen any good attention in quite some time
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<walle303>
No wonder it's slow as snails
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<walle303>
What's the progress on the onion transport
<whyrusleeping>
It works, but you have to manually add it in the source code and recompile to use it
<whyrusleeping>
The reason we arent making it easy to use yet is because we are not sure that ipfs doesnt leak de-anonymizing information yet
<redfish>
there's no relaying either, right? so, there will be two separate IPFS swarms effectively, correct?
<whyrusleeping>
There is relaying, but its manually done right now
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<whyrusleeping>
so you could run one 'exit node' that runs both tor and normal transports and then has the relay provider option enabled
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<redfish>
wow. what's manual about that?
<walle303>
You have to enable relaying in your ipfs config
<whyrusleeping>
if you are not using tor and want to connect to a peer who is, you have to manually run `ipfs swarm connect <relay address for tor peer>`
<redfish>
got it. thx. this is great news, btw.
<walle303>
Oh also, will ipfs automatically discover other ipfs nodes on tor from the other nodes?
<walle303>
Eg, if node A is connected to node B which is connected to node A and C, would node B tell node A about node C, like the clearnet swarm currently works
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<whyrusleeping>
Yeah, it should work the same as the current swarm
<geam>
./quit
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<redfish>
or.. wait, so once on a clearnet node I do 'connect clearnet_ip_of_relay_node_on_both_networks', will i be able to reach *other* tor-only nodes? Does the 'connect' command have some kind of special case logic that adds a peer as a *relay* peer?
<whyrusleeping>
you can specify which node to use as a relay
<whyrusleeping>
or you can leave it off, and then your node will try all the relay nodes it has connections to
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<redfish>
ok, nice.
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<kringle>
hihi
<kringle>
I have a question
<kringle>
Can I ipns `name publish` multiple objects under different human readable names
<kringle>
But I'm having trouble executing the commands
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<AphelionZ>
can I have js-ipfs and go-ipfs playing nice on the same server
<AphelionZ>
like if i just want to use node.js to interface with the running go-ipfs instance?
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<whyrusleeping>
AphelionZ: I think you would just use the js-ipfs-api
<AphelionZ>
ok cool
<AphelionZ>
can do
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<rockbottom>
hi peps
<rockbottom>
anyone who can advice me on
<rockbottom>
how to set via cli the path of ipsf initialization without any ENV variable to play with
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<kringle>
can I name publish multiple different apps to the same peerid?
<kringle>
so I can access ipfs.io/ipns/{peerID}/app1
<kringle>
as well as ipfs.io/ipns/{peerID}/app2 ?
<voker57>
yeah just publish a directory with these two subdirs
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<Taoki>
So I've been wanting for weeks to ask this, especially after the whole NetNeutrality debacle: What is the status of the IPFS protocol? How close is it to being a stable working product already, that web browsers can finally begin to adopt?!
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<voker57>
not really close imho and browsers are not interested in adopting since facebook does not need it
<Taoki>
With IPFS, violations of Net Neutrality are impossible: An ISP cannot associate a website with an IP address, as every user may be seeding any website they're visiting. It would be impossible to throttle an IPFS website, unless they throttle all unidentified traffic which would be ridiculous.
* Taoki
sighs...
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<lungaro>
what about a dns service you run yourself that tricks the browser. would such a thing be possible?
<lungaro>
(ipfs newb)
<Taoki>
I assume they will adopt once the protocol and hosting software are ready and stable and somewhat popular.
<Taoki>
It's taking so long though. Sometimes I fear IPFS might die.
<voker57>
you can use browser companion plugin that redirects ipfs links to local gatewat
<Taoki>
Even Tim Berners Lee was involved in this project and initiated it. Yet it takes so long.
<voker57>
don't think it will die after filecoin receiving so much money via ICO... would be rather embarrasing
<Taoki>
voker57: That doesn't do what IPFS is meant to though, which is the browser seeding the site and other browsers accessing it that way. A gateway is just a gateway.
<voker57>
_local_ gateway. your computer is seeding the website
<Taoki>
Oh!
<Taoki>
I should check that Firefox addon then. I remember seeing one, but it looked like a simple http converter.
<Taoki>
If an addon that offers TRUE support for IPFS in Firefox and Chromium exists... it's getting there :)
<lungaro>
if ipfs is content addressable, why not put the name mappings into IPFS itself?
<voker57>
name mappings?
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<voker57>
please elaborate
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<lungaro>
I have to get the terminology right, second
<lungaro>
ok, so all I want is a way to have a DNS system where names are mapping to "content addresses" (terminology?), which allows someone to publish a functioning site. This means with DNS or browser plugins
<lungaro>
having to type the objects address into a URL is counter productive
<lungaro>
that means if i wanted ipfs.example.com to resolve toa specific object, I have to map that. I was just saying what if you used ipfs to lookup where "ipfs.example.com" maps to (which object address)
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<Taoki>
Oh wow: You can use IPFS to edit and upload websites directly from the web browser? This will be another huge feature over http, which hopefully attracts even more support for ipfs!
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<Taoki>
Once there will be a working addon for each important browser that you can just click and install, offering full IPFS support out of the box... that will be the level of concenience that should guarantee the protocol is easy to adopt!
<whyrusleeping>
And the ipfs-companion browser extension will be able to communicate with the desktop app
<Taoki>
**convenience
<whyrusleeping>
yeap, we agree
<whyrusleeping>
we're putting a lot of effort into that
<Taoki>
The thing is that I use Linux, and although I could probably download the protococol I'd rather it's updated by a system package. I wonder if anyone could make a repository on downloads.opensuse.org to offer it.
<whyrusleeping>
Yeah, its in the arch repos, and a few others if i remember properly
<whyrusleeping>
We really just need someone to volunteer to keep it up to date
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<Taoki>
This is one of the things I wish I could have helped with. IPFS must be way beyond my understanding of code though, and my ability to learn a new code.
<walle303>
Repackaging it for other distros shouldn't be too hard
<Taoki>
Oh... Brave browser offers IPFS out of the box? Seeing something that seems to suggest that. Neat if so!
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<Taoki>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71LuYoB-lAE Is this how easily websites will be possible to update as well? That looks so wonderful and convenient, I almost can't believe it's a real thing :)
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<walle303>
I don't think it does
<walle303>
I'm using Brave 0.22-git and it doesn't have IPFS
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<walle303>
I think it'll get it in the future though
<walle303>
Anyway, i'm trying to make a wikipedia mirror on IPFS and on the `ipfs files cp` stage i get `Error: file does not exist`
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<Taoki>
That sounds awesome. Would be great if Wikipedia could volunteer to run an official IPFS mirror themselves.
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<mkg20001[m]>
IPFS has a cpu usage of 800% on 8 cores. WTF is going on?
<mkg20001[m]>
It started just after IPFS was started
<mkg20001[m]>
wasn't so smart to paste it with the ip addresses... facepalm
<whyrusleeping>
mkg20001[m]: did you build ipfs from source? or did you download it from dists?
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<mkg20001[m]>
from dist.ipfs.io amd64 0.13.0
<whyrusleeping>
great, thanks!
<walle303>
Taoki: Maybe suggest it to the wikimedia foundation yourself, if they see enough people requesting it they might consider it, #wikimedia is their main freenode channel, but they have quite a few
* Taoki
nods... good to know!
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<whyrusleeping>
mkg20001[m]: looks like a pin ls command is destroying your cpu somehow