#ipfs on 2017-12-15 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2017-12-12 16:36 lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.13 is out! Please try out: https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs/v0.4.13 | Also: #libp2p #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0

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00:12 <lgierth> i'd rather treat the DHT as a "global" thing

00:12 <lgierth> and do local addresses locally

00:12 <lgierth> the dht is just one possible peer routing mechanism

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00:13 <lgierth> and all that runtime memory that we save by not holding onto everybody's 127.0.0.1 and 192.168. addresses! :)

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00:39 <lord|> how are ipns entries like /ipns/dist.ipfs.io/ created?

00:42 <lord|> oh

00:43 <lord|> TXT records

00:43 <lord|> https://github.com/ipfs/faq/issues/16#issuecomment-232497229

00:43 <Kythyria[m]> That one is created via a suitable TXT record in DNS.

00:44 <lord|> I feel like ipns should fit in alternative ways to resolve, like

00:45 <lord|> /ipns/icann/www.google.com

00:45 <lord|> /ipns/ens/something.eth

00:45 <lord|> /ipns/namecoin/something.bit

00:45 <lord|> or /ipns/opennic/something.libre

00:48 <lgierth> that's all just dns zones, so if your local dns resolver resolves them it'll just work

00:48 <lgierth> (without the /icann /ens /etc. parts)

00:49 <lord|> that's inflexible for sharing ipns addresses though

00:49 <lord|> of course, my solution is also inflexible

00:49 <lord|> alternate resolvers would have to be plugins of ipfs, unless the reference implementation ipfs software decided to support them all

00:50 <lgierth> /ipns/com/example or /ipns/bit/example or /ipns/eth/example would be neat

00:50 <lgierth> i.e. turn dns zones into namespaces

00:50 <lord|> I can't think of any examples but I would think there'd be some overlap

00:50 <lord|> like if opennic decided that sci-hub.ac is still registered

00:51 <lgierth> oh sure, it'd still be dns lookups under the hood

00:51 <Icefoz> Then you'd have arguments over who owns the .ac namespace.

00:51 <lord|> or if ICANN suddenly decided to officially adopt a TLD claimed by openNIC

00:52 <lgierth> /ipns/eth/example is just another way of writing /ipns/ens/example.eth, just that the former isn't coupled to ens

00:52 <lgierth> the dot in domain names should have never happened

00:53 <lgierth> this is how i feel about unix paths and URLs/DNS: https://twitter.com/jon_snow_420/status/659443020908003328

00:56 <lgierth> we could have had /http/example.com

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01:56 <Icefoz> or /http/com/example ?

02:03 <stebalien> If anyone wants to start contributing to IPFS but doesn't know where to start, here's a simple set of issues you can try tackling: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/4414

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03:18 <lord|> hmm, is the ipfs protocol between nodes encrypted?

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03:19 <lord|> this says libp2p supports encryption https://github.com/libp2p/specs/blob/master/3-requirements.md#33-encryption

03:20 <lord|> but if I download the reference implementation of ipfs, will it be using encryption on the wire out of the box?

03:22 <JCaesar> Should.

03:22 <JCaesar> (that's why all the multiaddrs come with peer ids…)

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03:24 <whyrusleeping> yeah, between ipfs peers its encrypted

03:24 <whyrusleeping> and doesnt support not being encrypted

03:24 <lord|> awesome, thanks

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03:25 <whyrusleeping> (well, you can run it unencrypted, but then it cant talk to any other nodes unless they explicitly choose to run without encryption)

03:27 <lord|> probably would be useful for private networks

03:43 <jfmherokiller[m]> Id just like to say that i have been using ipfs in a production envirnment and it has proven itself by a large margin. (ive been using it in uncompressed mincraft world backups Its deduplication properties are better then most proprietary software and they allow me to have almost delta patchable snapshots of the world.)

03:50 <whyrusleeping> jfmherokiller[m]: :)

03:51 <jfmherokiller[m]> it also works pretty well since i can save the state of the whole minecraft directory not just the wold folder while the server is running

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03:57 <whyrusleeping> oh shit, it actually works fine with a live 'add' operation?

03:57 <whyrusleeping> thats impressive

03:58 <jfmherokiller[m]> yep i dont know how you programmed the go-ipfs program but it doesnt lock the files as it reads them so they can continue to be accessed by the minecraft server

03:58 <jfmherokiller[m]> the only issue is when the minecraft server locks the files itself but thats usually fixable

04:00 <whyrusleeping> O_RDONLY, no exclusive fd opens

04:03 <jfmherokiller[m]> well it works even on windows

04:03 <jfmherokiller[m]> which is what i run the server on

04:03 <whyrusleeping> huh

04:03 <whyrusleeping> well thats nice

04:06 <jfmherokiller[m]> yep i just wanted to report on how well it works in production and im using the latest version eg 0.4.13

04:06 <whyrusleeping> jfmherokiller[m]: thats great to hear :)

04:06 <whyrusleeping> And as always, let us know if anything isnt quite right

04:07 <whyrusleeping> we're going to have CI for windows pretty soon

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04:10 <jfmherokiller[m]> good hopefully i can retire the powershell script i made that compiles it from source and then restarts the windows service replacing the exe once it shuts down

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04:12 <whyrusleeping> ooOoo, thats interesting

04:13 <jfmherokiller[m]> it kind of does dirty stuff by abusing a combination of nssm and process hooks

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04:18 <lord|> jfmherokiller[m]: I think one of the essentials plugins for bukkit handles locking for you

04:18 <lord|> when it does backups

04:19 <lord|> I remember that it runs a script of your choice

04:19 <jfmherokiller[m]> oh? i dont really use the essentials because it feels like im putting all my eggs in one basket

04:19 <lord|> which leads me to believe it probably releases the locks on the minecraft world data while it runs the script

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04:25 <jfmherokiller[m]> so i guess if i wanted to make that work all i would need todo is insert "ipfs add --pin=false -Q -r . >> backupList.log"

04:26 <lord|> yeah just replace the script essentials gives you with one that puts backups in ipfs store

04:27 <lord|> there might be a smaller plugin available with this same functionality, I dunno

04:27 <lord|> essentials is a lot of stuff to add for a small vanilla server

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04:29 <jfmherokiller[m]> ^ thats the reason i prefer not using it the plugin is so big its overwhelming

04:29 <lord|> hmm, it seems minecraft servers come with a /save-on and /save-off command

04:30 <lord|> you could just... hackily pump those commands into the server stdin

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04:32 <jfmherokiller[m]> well thats not too hard as long as the stdin is running in a powershell window ive been able todo cross window communication in a somewhat workable fashion

04:34 <lord|> might be a less horrible way to do that using bukkit http://mcjsonapi.com/apidocs/#server.run_command

04:35 <jfmherokiller[m]> oh that is a much better approach

04:35 <lord|> yeah

04:36 <jfmherokiller[m]> also as a bonus it has a dotnet library that you can just import in powershell

04:36 <lord|> curl the API endpoint to run save-all and then save-off, put backup in ipfs store, then call API to run save-on

04:36 <jfmherokiller[m]> yep

04:36 <jfmherokiller[m]> gonna possibly implement that later

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06:26 <tbenett> Hum, something's strange here: I got an "Error private key already loaded" when on the ipfs/go-ipfs docker image I try to cat from a multihash.

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06:57 <JCaesar> Wish tbenett had said which multihash…

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10:15 <tbenett> Hum, something's strange here: I got an "Error private key already loaded" when on the ipfs/go-ipfs docker image I try to cat from a multihash.

10:15 <tbenett> Did you already got that?

10:17 <tbenett> It sounds like a bug, but of course I don't completely belives that. I looked on the web for response but ended up in the source code where the error is thrown and that wasn't helpful

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10:28 <JCaesar> tbenett: Which multihash, btw?

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11:00 <tbenett> JCaesar: a trash one. Not even uploaded as I work in offline mode

11:00 <tbenett> A one that was just returned by an add

11:01 <tbenett> see the screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oqderlgd111lwq2/Screenshot%202017-12-15%2012.01.39.png?dl=0

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11:02 <tbenett> *if it can help

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11:14 <tbenett> JCaesar: it's probably me since I started a new instance of the image and I could get a cat working again. I really don't know what is causing the issue, but be sure I let you know if I can find a way to reproduce it

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13:45 <lgierth> Icefoz: ah yeah, /http/com/example :):) it was pretty late here

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14:46 <Icefoz> np :-)

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15:05 <tbenett> Is someone available to help me please? I've got this strange issue where I got a 'Error: private key already loaded' from the HTTP api when I try `cat` on a hash returned from a newly added file.

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15:06 <JCaesar> I mean, you can always move the .ipfs folder to a backup location and try to start afresh…

15:06 <JCaesar> Not very elegant, yes…

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15:10 <tbenett> JCaesar: ;) I appreciate the help, thanks. But yeah... Sadly I need it to run the operation on a CI server too and I can't have the hand of it. Well... I somehwo could by executing some shell commands between the specs which I already do a kind of rollback of the cache and the localstorage to an empty state.

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15:11 <JCaesar> Hm, I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it. "kind-of-rollback" doesn't sound too good.

15:12 <tbenett> Yeah... I realized it by writing it

15:12 <tbenett> ...

15:12 <tbenett> I

15:12 <tbenett> I'm gonna test.

15:16 <tbenett> Basically I'm doing an `ipfs repo gc` and for all hashes found with `ipfs pin ls --type=recursive` a `ipfs pin rm`

15:17 <tbenett> I the test just came out. Error still present

15:17 <tbenett> What does the error mean?

15:18 <tbenett> how could 'Error: private key already loaded'

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17:53 <dexteruk> Hi

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17:53 <dexteruk> I have tried getting ipfs port 5001 (api) to listen to two ip address

17:53 <dexteruk> internal and external

17:53 <dexteruk> is there away to do this

17:55 <dexteruk> as i have a ipfs node running on a private lan so i needed the api to be accessable by other servers so i could tell it to pin the hashes created by the others servers

17:55 <dexteruk> as that server is the one that is access by the outside world

17:55 <dexteruk> and the others just create content

17:56 <Icefoz> dexteruk: Port forwarding?

17:57 <dexteruk> no i just need the ipfs to listen on two ip address

17:57 <Icefoz> The IPFS API port, you mean?

17:57 <dexteruk> yes

17:57 <dexteruk> i tried adding it to the config with both addresses

17:58 <dexteruk> but it only took the last one

17:59 <dexteruk> its ok i found it

17:59 <dexteruk> the address needs to be 0.0.0.0

17:59 <Icefoz> Looks like it only takes one: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/f686b4c88a2646cdc092f24a7eecd2f32ec8b452/repo/config/addresses.go#L8

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17:59 <Icefoz> But yes, 0.0.0.0 usually means "listen on any address"

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18:00 <dexteruk> well there is only two posible interfaces lo and eth0

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18:01 <dexteruk> so 0.0.0.0 should make it listen to both of them

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18:01 <dexteruk> its only because when i used the ipfs pin add, it said it cannot talk to the api

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18:02 <Icefoz> You can do `ipfs --api ... whatever` to tell it a specific IP address to connect to.

18:02 <Icefoz> It defaults to /ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/5001 apparently.

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18:35 <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day

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18:53 <whyrusleeping> mmm, its a bit less sunny than yesterday

18:54 <whyrusleeping> but i'm not complaining

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19:35 <mobpsycho> hi

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22:51 <grandy> Hello, I was reading about hosting a static website on ipfs, and in the example it appeared that the author's website was being hosted on IPFS, however it had a normal custom domain name, not ipfs.io/etc

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22:52 <grandy> I set up the dns TXT record for my root domain pointing at the IPFS path for a simple site I set up, but not sure what needs to be done to map it to a custom DNS name (or whether a custom browser add-on is required to do that mapping)

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