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<pjz> sickill: try now
<pjz> Fess: try now!
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<Fess> looks good
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<pjz> Fess: yay, glad to hear
<Fess> nice work with this project btw, it's cool see how use cases for ipfs progress
<pjz> Fess: thanks, I've been pecking at it for a while
<pjz> Fess: pinbits and pastebits
<pjz> I'm talking to a VC to fund some more development work
<pjz> Fess: I must admit that they're fairly obvious services to offer
<Fess> need to start somewhere
<pjz> yup
<pjz> and I think I waited a year or so for someone else to do a commercial pinning service before I floated mine
<pjz> and all the current ipfs-backed pastebins are local-only, or require you to run your own ipfs node
<pjz> with pastebits, you can put your own content onto IPFS and pin it without having to know anything about IPFS yourself
<pjz> oh, pastebits currently has a max of 256k per paste
<Fess> that's plenty of ascii text
<pjz> yeah
<pjz> though file uploads are allowed too
<Fess> wonder how filecoin will affect the ecosystem
<Fess> assuming it actually works as advertised
<pjz> it has to get finished first ;)
<Fess> yup
<pjz> and in the meantime people might want to experiment
<xloem> hey, what does filecoin do that siacoin and storj don’t?
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<Fess> from my understanding sia and storj are sort of stand alone distributed and incentivized file storage. Filecoin is supposed to work with IPFS in a more general way
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<Fess> I'm curious to see how all 3 compare with Swarm, if it ever gets out of alpha
<bomb-on> hey all! i am reading this article about "cat": https://github.com/ipfs/interface-ipfs-core/blob/master/SPEC/FILES.md#cat
<bomb-on> it says there: "in callback (...) file is a Buffer".
<bomb-on> i am always getting an object back...
<bomb-on> i'm just trying to read file which i just "add"ed earlier...
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<whyrusleeping> jakobvarmose: that should work
<whyrusleeping> whats not working?
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<jakobvarmose> whyrusleeping, nvm, it was an bug in my own code (I was calling the StringOfBase function)
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<probono> hello. quick question, has anyone experience with using ipfs for distributing linux live ISOs?
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<probono> Question is, could we have IPFS do the chunking of the Live ISO's squashfs based on the individual files that make up a Linux Live ISO?
<probono> In this case, the file libc.so.6 from Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubunu, Kubuntu,... would get the same hash (because it is always the same file) and could be shared across all of the mentioned Live ISOs
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<jakobvarmose> probono, Would libc.so.6 be aligned to a blocksize, or are the files compressed before being stored in the iso?
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<whyrusleeping> probono: that would be an interesting thing to do
<whyrusleeping> kinda like the tar importer
<whyrusleeping> musicmatze: re: a comment you made on reddit, the default blocksize is 256k
<probono> i don't think squashfs aligns anything jakobvarmose
<probono> in the AppImage project, we are all about distributing Linux apps without requiring central repos or app stores
<probono> looks like ipfs would be a good match for this
<probono> but if we do it, we want to do it right
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<TrUsT_n1> Greetings
<probono> whyrusleeping: with the tar importer, can i get the "original tar" back out of the system?
<probono> which a matching checksum?
<whyrusleeping> probono: yeah, with the tar export command
<whyrusleeping> its a really old hacky thing
<whyrusleeping> but its a pretty neat proof of concept
<probono> wow. looks like i'd need exactly that but for ApImages
<probono> AppImages are squashfs files
<probono> with a little ELF binary at the beginning that mounts the squashfs and executes the payload application
<probono> the squashfs itself can be compressed using different compressors
<whyrusleeping> oooo, interesting
<probono> including Zstandard
<probono> whyrusleeping: if you are interested, here are my intended user stories and initial thoughts:
<probono> would appreciate your comments
<probono> major applications like libreoffice are starting to use AppImage for direct-to-user application distribution
<probono> and i'd like to throw ipfs into the mix
<pjz> whyrusleeping: pastebits.io is public now
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<Alpha64> btw what's the process for blacklisting a hash ?
<pjz> Alpha64: make sure it's not pinned, then ipfs repo gc
<pjz> Alpha64: that will eject it if it's not pinned
<Alpha64> i mean, from the network, not just my node
<pjz> Alpha64: uhh... no can do.
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<Alpha64> is there a process in place ?
<pjz> Alpha64: it's decentralized. No way to do that.
<Alpha64> i've read something about a bloom filter somewhere
<pjz> Alpha64: I think those words may not mean what you think they mean
<engdesart> IIRC there's a blacklist of hashes that aren't allowed to be accessed over the official gateway, but for those setting up their own or using the daemon, it's opt-in.
<engdesart> No clue on how to add a hash to that, but it's probably over github.
<Alpha64> i'm curious, to avoid a streisand effect
<pjz> there's no central blacklist that I know of. Any particular node (like the official web gateway) can of course implement their own blacklist, but there's no way to make all nodes abide by it.
<pjz> ...even if their blacklist is public, which I don't know.
<engdesart> pjc: Sorta, yes. IIRC the blacklist was public and able to be contributed to, but entirely opt-in, and other nodes can implement their own.
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<whyrusleeping> probono: commented briefly on the issue
<whyrusleeping> I think the usecases you describe are really good ones for ipfs
<whyrusleeping> I also am really interested to see what level of deduplication you would get using the rabin chunker
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<stebalien> If anyone wants to help out this lovely Sunday night, here's an easy issue: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/4414
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* daviddias ANN: js-ipfs 0.27 released! Tweet Ann: https://twitter.com/daviddias/status/937565486912606208 Release Issue: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/issues/1095 🚀
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<haad> \o/
<haad> awesome daviddias!
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<daviddias> Hi haad ! thank you :)
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<haad> early birds get to release things ;)
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<daviddias> It is best way to start the day!
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<JCaesar> Btw, does a js-ipfs daemon consume more or less memory than a go-ipfs one?
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<Scio[m]> Is there a way to dynamically switch transports on a js-ipfs browser node?
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<Scio[m]> (I'm looking to switch between webrtc-star and websocket-star based on whether all the nodes are online or connected over a local wlan.)
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<kul> Hi how many of you are using IPFS for webhosting?
<JCaesar> I want to, but I don't really want to buy a VPS that can keep up with IPFS current memory requirements. I did make /ipns/goecam.liftm.de/ though…
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<kul> Thanks @JCaesar
<kul> I'm using managed Wordpress Hosting. Trying to explore options.
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<JCaesar> I was thinking of making an IPFS hosting service. I.e. throw it an unregistered domain name, an ip[fn]s path, and some bitcoin (or cryptokitties, heck) and your stuff is online. But I have no idea whether this is a good idea, or I'll be in lawsuit hell or somewhere quickly…
<Stskeeps> +1 for paying with cryptokitties
<kul> Great idea for the crypto generation
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<JCaesar> Kittiez4Filez
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<obtusetriangle> i like sex
<obtusetriangle> i like sex
<r0kk3rz> a lot of people do, i hear its quite a popular pasttime really
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<bomb-on> hi all! i'm trying to use "node.files.cat()" to read some file i just "node.files.add()"ed
<bomb-on> how comes that "file" in my callback is not a Buffer but just an regular object?
<bomb-on> actually, it is a Stream, so i have to add appropriate events to read the data from it...
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<probono> hi, how can I calculate the hash string of a file w/o adding it to ipfs?
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<probono> ipfs add -r -s=rabin-128000 .... but without adding
<probono> is what i am looking for
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<voker57> probono: -n
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<probono> voker57: is that undocumented? It also seems to require "init" to be run before
<probono> i am looking for a way to just calculate the hash and need no .ipfs/
<lgierth> ipfs add -n
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<lgierth> also nevermind the rabin chunker -- it's not worth the cpu time in most cases
<probono> ipfs add -n -s=rabin-128000 ...
<probono> Error: no IPFS repo found in /home/lubuntu/.ipfs.please run: 'ipfs init'
<voker57> it's documented in ipfs add --help
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<lgierth> that looks like you're using js-ipfs?
<lgierth> oh, go-ipfs wants a repo for add -n too
<probono> no, go-ipfs
<probono> here is my use case:
<probono> software distribution - https://appimage.org/
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<probono> one linux application = one filesystem image
<probono> now, we already have a mechanism for binary delta updates using zsync2
<probono> zsyncmake2 generates a small metadata file
<probono> to this file i would like to add the ipfs hash
<lgierth> you'll have to run `ipfs init` for now -- it's complicated to make `ipfs add -n` work without a repo
<probono> so that clients can decide whether to get the data from https as usual or from ipfs (new)
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<probono> ah
<probono> can the c library do it lgierth?
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<lgierth> i don't know - i haven't had a look at the c library
<lgierth> i don't even know who's developing it :) they're not communicating much
<lgierth> i'd assume it can't
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: there are many cases where the rabin chunker actually is worth its salt
<lgierth> oh neato, ok
<Icefoz_> Oooh, that's a cool idea.
<Icefoz_> Distributing Docker images would also be a neat use case.
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<lgierth> it's archived though
<natewalck> Is there a way to get json back from `ipfs add` ?
<natewalck> I tried --enc=json
<natewalck> but no dice
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<natewalck> Hrmmm, also, when trying to use ipfs ls and object get, I see a hang on excuting cmd via API
<natewalck> It hangs out executing command via API indefinitely
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<natewalck> I’m clearly doing something wrong
<natewalck> ( I disabled firewall just in case)
<voker57> is the hash actually available?
<voker57> you can have a look at stack dump to see what's actually hanging https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/docs/debug-guide.md#analysing-the-stack-dump
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<natewalck> Thanks, I’ll give that a go after lunch
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<lgierth> all hands time
* whyrusleeping waits patiently for the link
<lgierth> me too
<lgierth> who's gonna post it
<victorbjelkholm> IPFS All Hands - https://zoom.us/j/779351365
<lgierth> i was only kidding :) i have it bookmarked in zoom
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<victorbjelkholm> lgierth: meh, then those messages weren't aimed at you! Everyone else, but you
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<lgierth> :)
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<dgrisham> ev
<dgrisham> ^ whoops
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<noffle> cool, ipfs-cluster is being used in the wild now?
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<whyrusleeping> noffle: yep :)
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<natewalck> Awesome?
<natewalck> !*
<natewalck> So cluster is ready for prod? :)
<whyrusleeping> i'm not the person to answer that question
<whyrusleeping> hsanjuan: ?
<natewalck> I'm looking at doing private IPFS, looks like its pretty decent?
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<whyrusleeping> natewalck: yeah, it should work pretty well
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<natewalck> @voker57 OK, I am able to `ipfs get` the file from another node
<natewalck> but when I try to do an ls, I see nothing
<natewalck> Actually, I tried the ls on a node identifier
<natewalck> not a folder hash
<natewalck> can you do a recursive ls ?
<natewalck> Also, I cannot get json output for this command: `ipfs add -rw foldername/ --enc=json`
<natewalck> I need a recursive list of all files in the directory along with their hashes
<voker57> I don't think there is recursive ls yey
<voker57> yet *
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<natewalck> Ok.
<voker57> you can do `ipfs refs -r` to list all chunks in a DAG though
<voker57> (and download the whole DAG to your node in the meantime)
<natewalck> Ah yea
<natewalck> sadly that doesn't show the filename metadata :(
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<hsanjuan> I'm not going to say cluster is ready for production, but it's more stable and configurable than ever
<natewalck> K ;)
<natewalck> I think one of my biggest struggles is discovering files that are available in IPFS
<natewalck> I seems like I must maintain my own index of files and their hashes, otherwise it is difficult to figure out what is in there
<natewalck> (Probably due to my unfamiliarity)
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<Steverman> What is floodsub based on? I can't seem to find it
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<pjz> whyrusleeping: can you take a look at QmYSrfsPiEUw8yStea338uyVJPipojxADHGD5kqW2FgcaR (it's a .tar.gz archive of debug info from ipfs) and tell me what's going on?
<pjz> something seems stuck
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<afdudley> Is there a way to whitelist/blacklist peers in go-libp2p/go-ipfs?
<JCaesar> whitelist: kind of. You can make a private group depend on some shared secret, I think…
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<Icefoz_> afdudley: Not sure about blacklist, but to whitelist so you always try to connect to a particular peer you can put it in your bootstrap list.
<afdudley> I want to meter usage, so a whitelisted peer/client connects can pull n megabytes
<JCaesar> That, I think, you'll have to implement yourself.
<Icefoz_> Let me know when you do though. :D
<JCaesar> ipfs does quite a bit of idle chatter for the dht though, so "n megabytes" sounds a bit small…
<Icefoz_> I do want to make tools to investigate that chatter someday.
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<acrylamid> is it okay to ask a question regarding IPNS and static websites