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<beach>
Good morning everyone!
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<oni-on-ion>
hello sir
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<flip214>
is there some good reason why swank:eval-string-in-frame returns a string and not a normal (inspectable) result?
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<beach>
Good question. Is there a good reason why calling PRINT from some program does not create a presentation, but only a dead sequence of characters?
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<flip214>
beach: I'm not sure whether you're sarcastic... I'd have expected an "EVAL-"something function in a system used for debugging to get me a debugable presentation
<flip214>
beach: and IIRC, doesn't CLIM or so have streams that make PRINT-OBJECT interactive?
<no-defun-allowed>
The HyperSpec suggests dispatching may not be a good idea by my reading. "In some implementations the stream argument passed to a print-object method is not the original stream, but is an intermediate stream that implements part of the printer. methods should therefore not depend on the identity of this stream."
<beach>
It wasn't sarcasm. I just think the problem is very hard due to the implementations being unaware of presentations, and the fact that SLIME/Emacs are running in a different process.
<beach>
flip214: It is much easier to accomplish with CLIM since it is running in the same process.
<beach>
no-defun-allowed: It would be interesting to see how much McCLIM depends on it being the original stream.
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<no-defun-allowed>
Well, I would imagine it to be the original stream, but I recall, say, pprint-logical-block binds a pretty printing stream that wraps the original, so it may be useful to replace the stream.
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<beach>
Hmm, yes, I see.
<flip214>
I was surprised because if I evaluate some form via the REPL the result(s) are representations, so why not for EVAL-STRING-IN-FRAME?
<no-defun-allowed>
I would think that string is used to create the presentation you see.
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<flip214>
well, the string I get is "ok => NIL". for REPL results there's a whole tree, a mix of strings and references that are used to inspect them.
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<Josh_2>
afternoon
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<beach>
Hello Josh_2.
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<Josh_2>
why is it such a pain to just add a frickin handler for a url
<Josh_2>
simple-routes seems like it'll do the job
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<dim>
if you look into what I did for pgcharts, you will also find a “hack” that serves static files either from disk, or from memory in the image when you save-lisp-and-die, so that you can ship a single self-contained file with all your web resources embedded
<_death>
even with easy-acceptor it's easy to push a dispatcher to *dispatch-tables*
<_death>
(er, *dispatch-table*)
<dim>
it's always easy once you know how ;-)
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<Josh_2>
simple-routes worked
<Josh_2>
thanks for the helps folks
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<phoe>
okay, my priority queue now has a stable variant, too
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<wglb>
Running SBCL 2.0.5.80-4ad1f6470-dirty on freebsd 12.1 release, attempting to load cl-webkit. It depends on libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so. Doing a 'pkg install webkit2-gtk3', it provides 'libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37.49.5', which lands in /usr/local/lib. Unclear if cl-ffi (which is what cl-webkit uses) looks there, so i did (pushnew #P "/usr/local/lib/" cffi:*foreign-library-directories*) before load, but we get 'Unable to load any of the
<wglb>
alternatives' the first of which is 'libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so'. Any ideas on how to resolve this would be appreciated.
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<phoe>
symlink
<phoe>
symlink libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37.49.5 to libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so
<phoe>
I suspect that this is what is required
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<flip214>
phoe: ldconfig should do that
<flip214>
so you don't need to do it manually
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<daphnis_>
what should i do if i would naturally call a slot 'case' or 'number'; just call them something else, or is there an idiom for this sort of situation?
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<daphnis>
oh, i was already here
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<oni-on-ion>
ohhh, sbcl has block compilation since 2.0.2 =)
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<pve>
daphnis: do you mean that your accessors are also called "case" and "number"? For slots it's not a problem..
<daphnis>
pve: yeah
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<pve>
if the package is small, you could just shadow.. otherwise maybe foo-case where foo is the name of the class
<daphnis>
i'm considering using words from a different language, but, if i do that, i'll have to do the same for a whole bunch of other variables
<daphnis>
or symbols rather
<pve>
i think foo-case is a natural way to disambiguate concepts, by making the word more specific than the common word ("case")
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<daphnis>
thanks
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<Josh_2>
okay
<Josh_2>
can someone explain what is going on here
<Josh_2>
can someone explain to me why this (routep '(:get "abc" 'boof)) evaluates to nil and (routep (list :get "abc" 'boof)) evaluates to t ?
<Josh_2>
(at the repl)
<mfiano>
Because you are quoting boof
<sjl>
yeah
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<sjl>
you're passing it the list (:get "abc" (quote boof))
<Josh_2>
smoothbrain moment
<Josh_2>
thanks xD
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<phoe>
daphnis: shadow the symbols
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<Josh_2>
Well I ended up just making my own version of acceptor-dispatch-request
<Josh_2>
now I have the backbone for a 'yet-another-routing-library' :P
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<phoe>
I remember there was some CLOS book or article that demonstrated how to use a hash-table-backed instance, as opposed to standard, vector-backed instances. Does someone recall?
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<Bike>
isn't that in an AMOP appendix
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<no-defun-allowed>
AMOP does cover it...somewhere. I thought it was closer to the middle of the book though.
<no-defun-allowed>
3.8 "Instance Allocation" covers creating a sparse "dynamic-slot-class" metaclass.
<phoe>
yes! that is what I am looking for
<phoe>
thank you
<wglb>
phoe: the link you note is already there. It is if clffi is not looking in that directory. How do I cause it to look there?
<phoe>
wglb:
<phoe>
hm
<phoe>
sounds like cffi not playing well with freebsd libraries... you are sure that both SBCL and libwebkit are 64-bit?
<phoe>
asking just to rule out this corner case
<phoe>
I gotta crash asleep now; hope that someone else can answer that