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<pie__> awygle_, you been readin sigfig btw? :p
<pie__> no reason, all this space stuff just made me think of you
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<tnt> Well that's just remarkably linear .... https://imgur.com/a/GaSvbMD
<tnt> Measured frequency of a ring oscillator around the UP5k die vs Core voltage.
<tnt> at 0.95v it just stop operating. and below 0.98/0.99 it still oscillates but you see heavy distortion on duty cycle. (I guess one side of the PMOS/NMOS internally fails quicker).
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<tnt> In comparaison, blowing freeze spray or 150C air on the chip makes very little difference (less than the difference of 0.025v core voltage).
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<tnt> And a LP384 exhibit similar behavior, but with less amplitude. https://i.imgur.com/jSCGR8H.png
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<Morn_> Does someone here have an explanation how the names "recovery time" and "removal time" make sense? I think I know what they mean, just not how their meaning is connected to the names.
<tnt> in what context ?
<Morn_> timing at flip-flops with asynchronous set or reset
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<mossmann> -/win 21
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<mithro> kc8apf: What was that website which was a website for looking at disassembly to understand performance?
<vup2> do you mean godbolt.org ?
<kc8apf> Probably
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<bubble_buster> tnt: interesting, what led you to do this investigation?
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<tnt> bubble_buster: when I saw the huge variation in timing in icecube2 when varying the environment parameters.
<bubble_buster> ah. do the results agree with the timing analysis tool? or is it conservative?
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<tnt> no idea ... timing analysis doesn't work for a ring oscillator :p
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<bubble_buster> I see. but I would think you could enumerate parameters with timing analysis and find a corresponding curve even with a different design, would be interesting to see if it was also linear and similar slope
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<whitequark> tnt: very nice data
<TD-Linux> same. would be nice to plug it into nextpnr somehow
<daveshah> Should be quite easy if it's just a linear factor
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