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<palando>
hello. Do I have to compile armbian as root when I use docker? I am trying to compile it but is stops with an error and some file created are owned by root
<palando>
oh, no, on my computer the compilation does not work, also as root
<palando>
which tag in armbian/build is the newest? v21.02 or the highest AR number?
<palando>
ah, it works now. First I used OpenSUSE Tumbleweed now I made a VM with Debian
<palando>
@Werner Thank you. Now I made everything according to the manual. But I still have an error. Would somebody take a look? https://ghostbin.co/paste/h9dfu
<palando>
I tried to compile for without UI for odroid-xu4
<lanefu>
palando: i ran into issue building uboot yesterday as well
<palando>
@lanefu: OK. Then I try an older commit. May be from a week ago. Do you know when it did compile?
<palando>
Or is the cause in an other repository that is pulled?
<lanefu>
palando: alternatively you can skip buulding u-boot with REPOSITORY_INSTALL=u-boot
<palando>
lanefu: OK. That means, a precompiled version is downloaded?
<lanefu>
yeah
<palando>
lanefu: OK, thx
<IgorPec>
the same bug is on imx6
<IgorPec>
reverted commit
rZr is now known as rZr
<palando>
my compiled Armbian works on the HW :-)
<lanefu>
yay
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<kprasadvnsi[m]>
Why i2c in kernel still suck?
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
Allwinner guys abusing pwm as clock.
<lanefu>
kprasadvnsi[m]: ONLY YOU CAN SAVE US
<[TheBug]>
did I just hear kprasadvnsi[m] volunteer to fix i2c?
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<kprasadvnsi[m]>
It's been a month and I suffered enough with AC200 codec chip that doesn't probe on 5.10 no matter what. So far only seems to work on 5.4
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
My best guess, something changed in either clock or i2c subsystem
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
Newer H616 SoC also comes with this cursed AC200 chip so I am not happy at all.😬
<[TheBug]>
yeah you can ask Xogium his feelings on that as well, LOL
<[TheBug]>
I think that stupid wifi chip gave him an axiety attack, lol
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
Which wifi is that? Wait! I think most wifi chip suck.
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<stipa>
i have a clone of broadcom wifi chip on mine sbc, it's stable, it even uses broadcom driver, AMPAK AP6255
<stipa>
i haven't used it in station mode but in AP mode it's not so nice, pretty weak signal, atm i'm using it in AC mode, i get around 150Mbs
<stipa>
so, it's running 5.8GHz network right now
<IgorPec>
which sbc?
<[TheBug]>
and what type of antenna are you using
<[TheBug]>
a lot of wifi issues like that are cause your using a shite antenna
<stipa>
IgorPec: opi lite 2
<stipa>
antenna is beffy 9dbi 2.4 & 5.8GHz
<stipa>
omni
<stipa>
on station that i connect to it with doesn't have 5.8GHz antennas i guess, i should check that
<stipa>
i don't have that device that can check the resonance of an antenna
<stipa>
if it's antenna incompatibility fault then chip is more than fine
<stipa>
despite it being a clone
<stipa>
software side of it is very stable
<Ecko_>
I'm on an opi pc, buster and have enabled the desktop with `armbian-config`
<Ecko_>
How can I make kodi run at boot on the desktop?
<Ecko_>
already tried with a link in /home/kodi/.config/autostart/ to /usr/bin/kodi, but no dice :(
<Ecko_>
nvm I'm dumb
<Ecko_>
instead of symlinking to kodi, I copy/pasted an already existing startup file and modified it for my needs
<Ecko_>
so now it works :)
<stipa>
fancy
<stipa>
i'm afraid to put desktop on my board, it works great now
<stipa>
but i would like to spin movies with it
<stipa>
but i bet it would burn in flames fue to overheating...
<stipa>
due*
<stipa>
hd movies on that tiny thing, i doubt it could work without overheating issues
<stipa>
and if it would go in shutdown my whole network would crash with it
<stipa>
a wild guess
<stipa>
Ecko_: how are your temps looking?
<Ecko_>
terrible
<stipa>
whilw watching a hd video
<Ecko_>
70c
<stipa>
while*
<stipa>
70
<Ecko_>
oh lmao, nah just idling right it reaches 70
<stipa>
without Desktop idling?
<Ecko_>
ehh....
<stipa>
probably less
<Ecko_>
I have Kodi autostarted and while idle it's at ~60
<stipa>
run some video
<stipa>
for 5 mins for example
<stipa>
and give as the temp
<stipa>
us*
<Ecko_>
I can't
<Ecko_>
it's so damn slow I can barely move my cursor around
<Ecko_>
but highest I've seen was with a load of ~4 at 80c
<Ecko_>
so pretty unfortunate I can't use the opi as media center
<Ecko_>
on the other hand, a good incentive to get another odroid c4 :)
<[TheBug]>
if you want to use OPi PC for a media center thats gonna be the most stable with video accel enabled for H3
<Ecko_>
will try
<[TheBug]>
You can install SPMC on it (like Kodi) and it runs pretty stable, just check the FAQ for a link if you don't know where to find it
<[TheBug]>
either that
<[TheBug]>
and / or
<[TheBug]>
you can get LibreELEC for H3 or dual load it with H3Droid
<[TheBug]>
this can be chosen from the H3resc menu once you have installed H3Droid
<[TheBug]>
thats if y ou specifically want to only run Kodi, real Kodi, on H3
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<[TheBug]>
(only Kodi as there is no other OS, its only enough to run Kodi in LibreElec)
<Ecko_>
yeah that was the plan indeed, to only run kodi
<Ecko_>
I'll check both of them tomorrow morning
<[TheBug]>
Well on H3 those are t he two things you will want, I do suggest H3Droid if you doing mind android because we have tuned the DRAM settings for boards in our images to be most stable
<[TheBug]>
s/doing/don't
<ArmbianHelper>
[TheBug] meant to say: Well on H3 those are t he two things you will want, I do suggest H3Droid if you don't mind android because we have tuned the DRAM settings for boards in our images to be most stable
<[TheBug]>
ohh and final thing
<[TheBug]>
You should have at minimum a heatsink on the H3 and if you really intend to playback higher res video you should probably have a fan on it as well
<stipa>
[TheBug]: SPMC development has stopped
<stipa>
in 2018
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<stipa>
Ecko_: yeah, that's hot, plastic starts to stink at 80 :D
<stipa>
you know, when you enter the room and there's a burning plastic smell in the air
<stipa>
just before it starts to melt
<stipa>
but, i'm curious would Armbian DE run hd video with vlc media player without getting too hot, like over 80...
<stipa>
i'm aware that there is some video acceleration voodoo in some of the socs, maybe they can play video without heating much
<stipa>
maybe socs engage some lectronics when they sense a video
<stipa>
in either way, those small plastic TV boxes have to had some voodoo going
<stipa>
in order to play HD videos and not burn a house
<[TheBug]>
stipa: yes but it is the most stable for H3Droid, thus why I suggest it
<[TheBug]>
H3droid also run Android 4.4...
<[TheBug]>
Armbian doesn't have graphics accel as far as I know
<[TheBug]>
so probably he was just melting CPU cores
<stipa>
is'nt the kodi stand alone stuff?
<stipa>
like you don't need a DE for it?
<stipa>
maybe he didn't try Armbian DE
<stipa>
:/
<stipa>
Ecko_: Have you tried Armbian DE
<[TheBug]>
no kodi is a program
<[TheBug]>
you can run it as long as you can compile it
<[TheBug]>
you are just used to seeing it in LibreELEC type implementations where they have setup gfx accel and only kodi so you have it alone
<[TheBug]>
H3Droid also has the VPU access
<stipa>
yeah, i'm confused
<[TheBug]>
so if you want to do Kodi you probably want LibreELEC or H3droid + SPMC
<stipa>
i know there's an app you can install
<stipa>
but i'm also seeing like the machines boot just in kodi and that's it
<[TheBug]>
LibreELEC
<[TheBug]>
or CoreELEC
<[TheBug]>
I think both are literally minim for kodi dists
<stipa>
i see
<[TheBug]>
"LibreELEC – Just enough OS for KODI"
<[TheBug]>
"LibreELEC is a non-profit fork of OpenELEC as an open source software appliance, a just enough Linux distribution for Kodi. This fork of OpenELEC announced in March 2016 as a split from the OpenELEC team after "creative differences", taking most of its active developers at the time to join the new LibreELEC project. Wikipedia"
<stipa>
i get it now
<stipa>
wow, it's a huge difference in the name change
<stipa>
from open to libre
<stipa>
so tv boxes have very little resources
<stipa>
if they need stripped down linux version
<stipa>
i got something wrong
<stipa>
it's getting complex
<stipa>
but librelec sounds like something you would put in a router
<stipa>
but making it minimal also makes system runs cooler
<stipa>
it makes sense if it's just for media
<ArmbianTwitter>
@maidenbartok (David Lake): @_garicas @Raspberry_Pi There are heaps of them - https://t.co/0qer21yq3V I suspect they are made on the same production line as the RPi. https://tinyurl.com/yhargowm (4s ago)
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<[TheBug]>
lol
<[TheBug]>
expecting RPi to drop their prices
<[TheBug]>
people are halarious
<[TheBug]>
seeing as they already scrape the bottom of the barel with their BOM as it is
<[TheBug]>
I doubt they have much room in it
<stipa>
it's hard to tell
<stipa>
i don't know how popular 8GB version is
<stipa>
maybe people aren't buying it, if not they'll just have to lower the price
<stipa>
if people are mad about it then there's no reason to lower the price
<stipa>
as well, as time goes by the BOM will be cheaper as well as RPi won't buy the parts
<stipa>
no sales no parts buying
<stipa>
cheaper parts, cheaper BOM, cheaper SPi
<stipa>
RPi*
<stipa>
if people decide not to buy it they'll have to lower the price
<stipa>
judging by the videos of 8GB version it's not worth it for my needs
<stipa>
and i have gone past 8GB for daily use, few big programs running, an VM, it gets over 10GB just idling
<stipa>
so not for daily use
<stipa>
for someone that is strictly linux it makes sense
<stipa>
i have still leftovers from windows that need a VM
<stipa>
and i won't get rid of it soon since there is no replacement for it in software realm for linux
<stipa>
so VM at least needs 4GB of ram to run smoothly
<stipa>
firefox eats more than 4GB
<stipa>
that's over 8GB
<stipa>
some DSP going on at the same time
<stipa>
and 16GB is gone
<stipa>
if you have a proper desktop machine it's not worth the hassle to torture yourself with 8GB Rpi
<stipa>
and i don't want to go into thermals
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<stipa>
and that rpi is just shitty design
<stipa>
they should put the chips at the other side of the board so that it could be mounted and cooled but whatever
<stipa>
buy whatever*
<stipa>
just drill holes in some metal and you're good to go
<stipa>
some thermal pad
<stipa>
and you have whatever cooling you want
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<stipa>
and efficient
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<tparys>
evening all
<IgorPec>
morning :)
<tparys>
you should probably sleep more ;)
<IgorPec>
i took a nap in the afteroon but yeah, soon