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<redfish> merged and built #4288 and added ConnMgr section to config, let's see what happens to mem usage. PS. GracePeriod in what units?
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<Scio[m]> I'm connected to seven other peers in India, which is more than I've ever peered "nationally" up until today. Quite the novelty!
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<cyberwolf[m]> installed deamon on nas Web Console does not open what ports need to be opened?
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<engdesart> cyberwolf[m]: By default, just port 4001. You can change that in the ~/.ipfs/config file.
<grawity> oh there's a web console/
<grawity> TIL
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<cyberwolf[m]> not open
<lgierth> cyberwolf[m] edejong[m]: make sure to never open up port 5001 to the public
<lgierth> it exposes all of your node controls, and anybody could just go bonkers with it
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<cyberwolf[m]> does not work
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<cyberwolf[m]> addon firefox ipfs offline
<deltab> are you trying to access it from another machine?
<deltab> it's on a NAS, right?
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<cyberwolf[m]> yes
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<cyberwolf[m]> registered ip nas
<cyberwolf[m]> custom gateway host
<cyberwolf[m]> in addon ipfs
<cyberwolf[m]> ipfs off not on
<cyberwolf[m]> firewall offline
<cyberwolf[m]> what is missing?
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<lgierth> cyberwolf[m]: better don't expose :5001 to the internet
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<Elon_Satoshi> Hi! So has git been integrated yet?
<lgierth> Elon_Satoshi: yes, somewhat. the only blocking thing that's missing is how to make git blobs that are >2MB work
<lgierth> Magik6k has links
<ZeroMe[m]> k
<Elon_Satoshi> Any tutorials? I'm still confused on just how to update a directory
<ZeroMe[m]> ipfs update all
<ZeroMe[m]> Look the IPFS docs
<lgierth> no
<lgierth> that has nothing to do with either git or updating directories
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<whyrusleeping> Hey, if anyone wants to be super helpful, try using this PR: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3856
<whyrusleeping> and report back on if it works well, or if you notice any PRs
<whyrusleeping> er, notice any bugs*
<whyrusleeping> where 'works well' here means 'you dont notice anything different'
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<Elysium3301> Which ports should I port forward for IPFS?
<whyrusleeping> Elysium3301: 4001
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<Elysium3301> Thanks whyrusleeping
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I am afraid I won’t be able to join the all hands today so you will need to find another notetaker
<daviddias> thank you for letting me know, dignifiedquire
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<whyrusleeping> oh crap, today is monday?
<Elysium3301> Whoo I got my node set-up! That was pretty easy :)
<whyrusleeping> Elysium3301: sweet :) welcome to the network
<whyrusleeping> things are a bit hectic right now
<whyrusleeping> the total number of peers went from 1000 to 4000 in about a week
<whyrusleeping> so some things are a little broken right now
<r0kk3rz> just growing pains :)
<Elysium3301> That's a pretty dramatic increase
<whyrusleeping> literally, haha
<whyrusleeping> Yeah, i was supposed to be taking a vacation this week
<whyrusleeping> Now i'm trying to get connection closing code ready to go
<cjd[m]> Hey
<lgierth> howdie cjd
<cjd[m]> What's new ?
<lgierth> preparing for whatever is gonna happen in spain
<lgierth> worst case would be IP blocking of the ipfs bootstrappers, so i'm looking into signal/tor style domain fronting
<lgierth> apart from that, leaving crete for athens today
<lgierth> ferry in 5 hours
<lgierth> one of those huge ferries, love those
<cjd[m]> nice
<lgierth> where you can actually roam around, get coffee and dinner, etc.
<cjd[m]> yup
<lgierth> no chance to get to paris :') i have a thing in berlin on thursday that i forgot about so i need to get back home...
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<lgierth> and you? on the road?
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<cjd[m]> In Romania
<cjd[m]> for the month of October I'm here
<whyrusleeping> cjd[m]: cjdns makes my computer sad
<whyrusleeping> pls help
<ansuz> whyrusleeping: maybe it just needs vitamin D
<ansuz> seasonal affective disorder
<whyrusleeping> Hrm... i'm in greece
<ansuz> oh, then it's probably cjdns
<whyrusleeping> theres a lot of sunlight here
<ansuz> sounds nice
<whyrusleeping> its pretty great
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<whyrusleeping> i'm in a coffee bar in the anarchist neighborhood in athens
<ansuz> I hope nobody's breaking the NAP
<whyrusleeping> nobody breaking the NAP around here
<whyrusleeping> just casually setting fire to things and throwing rocks are police
<whyrusleeping> the usual
<Elysium3301> I'm still unsure about one thing: When I put a file on IPFS do nodes automatically start downloading it, or only nodes that have manually downloaded my file?
<r0kk3rz> Elysium3301: files are only downloaded on request
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<Elysium3301> Ah alright, so if I download a file; I keep seeding it until I delete it? And if I upload a file, only people with that downloaded it will seed it until they delete it?
<cjd[m]> whyrusleeping: cjdns is probably gonna get better a year from now, because I am going to move to Romania and (semi)retire.
<cjd[m]> July is the month I move
<whyrusleeping> cjd[m]: whoa, leaving paris?
<cjd[m]> Yes sir
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<lidel> cyberwolf[m], I think webui is hardcoded to localhost for security reasons. You can access it by tunneling over ssh: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs/issues/273
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<cyberwolf[m]> understand, thanks:
<cyberwolf[m]> lidel:
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<Icefoz_> Hmm, does IPFS use cjdns for routing?
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<Kubuxu> Icefoz_: it can connect to via cjdns and we host some nodes on cjdns network.
<Icefoz_> Ahhh, I see.
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<Icefoz_> I misunderstood what cjdns was, the wikipedia page is a little ambiguous but the github is more explicit.
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<Kubuxu> yeah...
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<Berezin> Hello @channel
<gts> Slack user spotted
<gts> :P
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<Berezin> Hello #ipfs
<gts> Hey Berezin
<Berezin> Anyone active here?
<gts> some.
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<Berezin> I'm looking into building a website with some dynamic content including user login with IPFS
<Berezin> I would love some guidance and direction
<gts> see this for more info: https://github.com/ipfs/faq/issues/28
<Elysium3301> My HTTP website just got crawled by Facebook, but they used a Windows/Chrome user-agent to get around any anti-crawler stuff.
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<r0kk3rz> Berezin: for login you'll probably want to use some kind of centralised service
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<Kythyria[m]> Elysium3301: Not just anti-crawler, some websites don't work properly if you don't send a UA that it likes due to miswritten adaptations.
<Berezin> Yeah, I'm thinking of somthing along the lines of building an API for toket generation, and then other dynamic content would be queried using the Token
<r0kk3rz> just remember that anything you put on IPFS is public
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<gts> Berezin: why don't you use auth0 for this?
<gts> token generation
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<Kubuxu> lidel: is there any way we could plug in ipfs-companion to firefox's screenshot tool>
<Kubuxu> ?
<Kubuxu> like, you can upload it to cloud and then to IPFS (with context menu).
<Kubuxu> but it would be better if we could upload it to IPFS directly
<Kubuxu> just a thought
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<lidel> Kubuxu, I guess we could hijack requests to https://screenshots.firefox.com ;-)
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<Kubuxu> hahah, you love hijacking don't you :P
<lidel> #thugLife
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<lidel> hm.. I've found it on github: https://github.com/mozilla-services/screenshots It is made up of both an add-on (using WebExtensions) and a website using Node.js. The add-on is in addon/webextension/, and the website is in server/
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<lidel> yeah, probably possible, but not in a nice way
<lidel> btw: I am playing with going over DOM and replacing <a href="dweb:/ipfs/..">foo</a> with link pointing at public gateway
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<lidel> I am also able to 'normalize' <img src="dweb:/ipfs/QmbWqxBEKC3P8tqsKc98xmWNzrzDtRLMiMPL8wBuTGsMnR" /> to load image from https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmbWqxBEKC3P8tqsKc98xmWNzrzDtRLMiMPL8wBuTGsMnR
<lidel> which is nice, I guess
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<lidel> "poor man's protocol handlers" ;-)
<Icefoz_> What is dweb?
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* gts distributed web??
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<r0kk3rz> D'Web its on D'Internet
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<lidel> ipfs:// and dweb: are parts of our 'upgrade path for path addressing' -- https://github.com/ipfs/specs/pull/152#issuecomment-284628862
<Kubuxu> I'm 90% sure it uses https://screenshots.firefox.com/data/
<Icefoz_> thanks, lidel.
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<Icefoz_> Though I still don't see any actual spec on what 'dweb' means.
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<Icefoz_> I see a "ipfs:" URI spec in the ipfs/specs github, I see conversations about a "dweb:" URI spec, and some issues that appear to be closed without followup.
<Icefoz_> No description of what it actually means.
<Icefoz_> Formal description, that is.
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<lgierth> dweb simply means distributed web
<lgierth> as for the dweb: URI scheme and generally ipfs's content addressing scheme, i'll write a proper spec this quarter
<lgierth> promised
<Icefoz_> Okay looking at IPLD now
<lgierth> correction: dweb simply means distributed web or decentralized web, or both
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<Icefoz_> and I am wondering why not simply say "duplicate property keys are an error and MUST be parsed as invalid"
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<Icefoz_> I can tell what it means, I just don't know what it IS. :-P
<Icefoz_> Now that I dig into the underlying guts of IPFS type stuff a lot I see lots of pinky-and-the-brain and not very much actual engineering in some parts.
<Icefoz_> Which is fine on some levels and a bit less fine on others.
<Icefoz_> Actually I'll just open an issue on the IPLD thing, we can talk there. :-P
<lgierth> ack - the docs are partly not ideal yet. Q4 will have a good push on docs
<lgierth> go for it -- i'm on a ferry on the mediterranean though so about to ping out
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<gts> lgierth, how are you connected to the internet?
<lgierth> regular mobile data -- the next island is like 50km or so away
<lgierth> who knows, maybe the ferry has a repeater
<gts> lgierth: cool
<Kubuxu> it probably does
<Icefoz_> hehehe, ok no worries.
<Icefoz_> I'm in a pedantic and vaguely grumpy mood after spending 14 hours dealing with web aplication servers, so.
<Berezin> gts, that's a good idea, will look into it
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<gts> Berezin, be warned that there are some rough edges with auth0 too.
<gts> its not perfect but :meh:
<Berezin> gts the other approach would be to develop auth api myself, which I would prefer avoiding if possible
<gts> I second that
<Berezin> and then do data retrieval based on used for hosted mongo or somthing
<gts> hm, your app won't be completely fault tolerant but yeah you can
<gts> what happens if the hosted mongodb goes down -_-
<Berezin> Well, I wish there was a distributed and segregated way to store data
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<Icefoz_> I hear that's not an easy problem to solve.
<gts> Berezin, what type of data you're planning to store?
<Berezin> Just basic user oriented info
<Berezin> nothing too fancy at this point
<gts> if its basic you can store that in auth0
* gts is thinking about basic user preferences
<Berezin> I will see that the api there providers, might be a good solution for basic cases
<gts> Berezin, cool
<Berezin> Is there any more info on permissions?
<Berezin> If there' a website
<r0kk3rz> Berezin: theres a few cool things you can do with local browser storage too
<Berezin> who can push updates
<Berezin> event if's only static content
<Berezin> ie client side code probably
<r0kk3rz> like generate a keypair and store it in the local storage, and use that for auth instead
<gts> r0kk3rz, interesting
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<lidel> hm.. ipfs name resolve -r /ipns/QmVTofH3UuafnKihbGa6whtsLaH7YyqMWiR9Pzha9xQYuK → /ipfs/QmWqNxbUnGZzmLeyA8jMi1VeyuHpBcYDYH9WcYZY31zijk
<lidel> ipfs dns ggr.com
<lidel> → Error: Could not resolve name (recursion limit exceeded).
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<Kubuxu> try adding -r
<lidel> Kubuxu, to ipfs dns?
<Kubuxu> I think I have fixed `ipfs name resolve` in this regard long time ago
<Kubuxu> but `ipfs dns` might be still broken
<Kubuxu> hmm
<Kubuxu> :|
<lidel> ipfs dns --recursive ggr.com → Error: not a valid domain name
<Kubuxu> hmm, no
<Berezin> Is there a way to limit updating a file, so if I upload a static web content, only the author can push updates? I'm worried about malicious intentions
<gts> Berezin, use ipns
<Berezin> I thought it was the naming service
<Berezin> how can I use that to allow only spesific users to update?
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<lidel> Kubuxu, I noticed it because extension performs lookups via https://ipfs.io/api/v0/dns/ggr.com and it produced error
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<r0kk3rz> Berezin: ipns works via keypair, so only the owner of that key can update it
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<zenground0> Has anyone used godebug before? Is it worth trying out?
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<Icefoz_> Man now that I get around to reading through IPFS's docs more and consider using it for an application
<Icefoz_> I kind of wish it would just focus on storing and retrieving data as effectively as possible and leave other tasks like linking it together up to higher-level systems.
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