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<MikeFair>
is there any metadata I can control on a directory in IPFS? I need a spot to put a "score" integer number
<MikeFair>
I was thinking maybe using on of the "date" fields; but beore I got too hacky, I thought I'd ask here
<lgierth>
MikeFair: there's currently no metadata on unixfs dirs -- there's a unixfs v2 in the making that will have space for additional data in some way
<MikeFair>
lgierth, so if I understand correctly; there's perms (9 bits?), modified date, name as the only real "settable" attributes of directory?
<MikeFair>
I guess user/group owner but what does that even mean in ipfs
<lgierth>
these have never been used
<MikeFair>
Are they even tracked?
<MikeFair>
(or is that what you meant by used)
<lgierth>
:)
<lgierth>
they don't get set
<lgierth>
turned out they don't go too well with content-addressing, at least if they're the default for everyone
<MikeFair>
Hmm, ok so "name", or some sort .data file inside the directory
<lgierth>
yeah, for now you'll have to invent something on your own
<MikeFair>
makes sense that they wouldn't
<MikeFair>
(go well for CAS that is)
<lgierth>
or set them, and deal with them yourself on the reading end
* lgierth
doing stupid administrative work
<MikeFair>
btw, stebalien and I had a chance to talk about my desire for an ipns link
<MikeFair>
OH, so if I set them, they'll probably be preserved?
<lgierth>
great
<lgierth>
i mean if you construct the directory object yourself and set them there
<lgierth>
i think they should be stored then
<MikeFair>
that's kind of what I was envisioning doing; (constructing the dirents in code)
<MikeFair>
the jist of the conversation was they are an important thing; but most likely as a completely new namespace type
<lgierth>
they ipns thing? yeah
<lgierth>
might potentially fit within /ipns
<MikeFair>
The biggest concern was not recursive loops (as I thought); but pathname caching
<MikeFair>
It's got "hope" in that you can cache by rerooting the path at the ipns "splits"; but the challenge is detecting those splits from the pathname itself
<MikeFair>
you really can't see them in the name by default
<MikeFair>
OH!!! I also played with the experimental PubSub support --- how "experimental" is it?
<lgierth>
the underlying algorithm is the very first incarnation
<lgierth>
a better one is in the works
<lgierth>
otherwise it's pretty okay so far :)
<MikeFair>
I mean is it: likely to crash the daemon experimental; or "ought to work, but god only knows what we missed"
<lgierth>
hehe the latter
<lgierth>
peerpad.net uses it heavily
<lgierth>
and parts of ipns do nowadays
<MikeFair>
And it seems that it's just a public unmanaged string space for topics yeah
<lgierth>
yeah
<lgierth>
usually a hash is used
<MikeFair>
Yeah, I was a bit happy and suprised when I published and subscribed to the topic "test"
<MikeFair>
I was thinking the namespaces below domain names could be secured from publishing by requiring the ipns key be used from the dns record
<MikeFair>
something like to publish to the topic "pubsub://somename.domain.dom/some_path/some_label" the daemon would look up an DNS TXT record to get the pubKey IPFS CID for "somename.domain.dom"
<MikeFair>
I don't know how the rest of the swarm would enforce it; but it was the inklings of something
<MikeFair>
Using the DNS entry to "authorize" entries below a particular namespace root
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<bsdnoob>
je;;p
<bsdnoob>
*hello
<bsdnoob>
lol
<bsdnoob>
what's the #ifps's recommendation for documentation
<bsdnoob>
any good manuals?
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<miceli>
ciao a tutti
<miceli>
!list
<miceli>
!list
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<JCaesar>
bsdnoob: ipfs commands | while read c; do $c --help; done
<JCaesar>
*shrug*
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<bsdnoob>
JCaesar, I mean documentation on how does it work
<bsdnoob>
internals and all
<JCaesar>
The whitepaper, maybe?
<bsdnoob>
alright
<bsdnoob>
JCaesar, could decentralized music stream work with ipfs?
<bsdnoob>
*streaming
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<JCaesar>
I've thought about this… maybe you can push CIDs to pubsub, or so. I don't think it has been done.
<bsdnoob>
JCaesar, people are streaming videos off ipfs why not audio?
<JCaesar>
Wait, where?
<JCaesar>
d.tube?
<bsdnoob>
yes?
<JCaesar>
If you just want to listen to something that's been pre-decided: Sure, no problem at all.
<JCaesar>
I thought you meant live-streams.
<bsdnoob>
that would be really hard at present
<bsdnoob>
JCaesar, another dumb question, how long does dtube needs to "seed" before it can be deleted from their servers
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<JCaesar>
bsdnoob: Kinda hard to answer, because it's based on a misconception of how IPFS works.
<JCaesar>
A file will be available if at least one node has it.
<JCaesar>
d.tube servers delete it after some time, depending on the popularity.
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<JCaesar>
After that, it can be kept available by pinning it on some other node.
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<JCaesar>
(or it happenes to be cached there.)
<JCaesar>
But there is no scheme that ensures that files will stay available.
<EnricoFasoli[m]>
It should work fine except don't open any folders with a high item count
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<whyrusleeping>
SchrodingersScat: you rang?
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<SchrodingersScat>
whyrusleeping: oh hey.
<SchrodingersScat>
long time no chat, thought maybe you had taken the money and ran to Tijuana to be with your many womenz
<whyrusleeping>
Tijuana seems dangerous
<whyrusleeping>
Plus, I would get so bored
<whyrusleeping>
I honestly cant imagine just sitting around getting drunk all day
<SchrodingersScat>
you wouldn't /have/ to do that
<SchrodingersScat>
I'm sure people have lives there too
<whyrusleeping>
So i would sit indoors, in a poorly lit room, typing shit to people on irc
<whyrusleeping>
How do you know i'm *not* in Tijuana?
<SchrodingersScat>
you can't even prove we're not the same person, checkmate
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<MikeFair>
SchrodingersScat, Actually since it can't be proven that we're not the same person; then we're a superimposition of both being and not being the same person at the same time, board upturned. :)
* MikeFair
prefers to believe whyrusleeping is in Tijanua as he's not far from there now.
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<aseriousgogetta>
anyone active familiar with ipwb?
<aseriousgogetta>
or ipfs-scraping/indexing?
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<AphelionZ>
any idea when dnslink will land in js-ipfs? :)
<AphelionZ>
or is there a setting I need to enable?
<AphelionZ>
DokterBob1: can I pm?
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<lidel>
EnricoFasoli[m], really cool, is it doing uploads via js-ipfs?
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<EnricoFasoli[m]>
lidel: thanks :) uploads are not supported yet but planned, right now you have to add your file to ipfs another way (from the CLI for example) then you can add it to a folder using the hash in ipfs drive
<lidel>
EnricoFasoli[m], ah, got it. Kinda for organizing known hashes.
<EnricoFasoli[m]>
Yeah for now that's the best use case
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