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<tinyfpga> daveshah: do you recall if ECP5 registers can be dual-edge triggered?
<tinyfpga> daveshah: looks like it has two-input muxes built into the flops...I can use those
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<daveshah> tinyfpga: no, although the ones in the DSP can
<daveshah> I don't think they have flops with hard two input muxes
<daveshah> When I poked those primitives they just created a LUTFF pair
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<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark pushed 3 new commits to master:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 325d08b whitequark: applet.i2c_master: unbreak --scan-read with --scan-device-id.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 3fc09c2 whitequark: applet.selftest: unbreak after 02f390bc.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master b5e326e whitequark: target: fix an issue where using only port B would request port A.
<rqou> whitequark: the Algorithm(TM) showed me that you liked and yet you haven't updated your lab notebook in months :P
* rqou wants moar chemistry content
<whitequark> rqou: some day, when i don't have an anxiety disorder severe enough to not be able to work
<rqou> oh :(
<rqou> that sucks
<whitequark> it fucking does
<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master e78ff9d whitequark: applet.i2c_master: fix I2C reserved address range.
<rqou> at least you're now well enough to work on glasgow? so i guess that's a positive
<whitequark> rqou: no
<whitequark> it's a distraction
<rqou> :(
<azonenberg_work> i know the feeling... my single most productive 24h period on antikernel was probably the night my ex left me
<whitequark> now imagine feeling like that for literal years
<whitequark> something like ten years at this point
<whitequark> not quite continuously, but close to it
<rqou> wait wait azonenberg_work has an ex?!
<whitequark> do you see why i have so much opensource now
<rqou> even that doesn't quite fit my mental image of how azonenberg_work should behave :P
<azonenberg_work> rqou: lol
<azonenberg_work> rqou: My dating life, for lack of a better term, was heavily optimized
<azonenberg_work> I tried to weed out incompatible people as quickly as possible
<whitequark> that sounds like azonenberg alright
<azonenberg_work> Of the folks i messaged on various dating sites, most never responded (typical in general)
<azonenberg_work> Of those who i started a conversation with, maybe 1/8 progressed to the point of getting a phone number
<azonenberg_work> actually probably less than that
<azonenberg_work> About 50 folks total i'd say, i could give you an exact count but my NAS is already packed up and that's where the db of "numbers i deleted from my phone but kept around so I'd be able to ID calls/texts from them" lives
<rqou> wtf
<rqou> so i'm not the only data hoarder :P
<azonenberg_work> Not just exes, that includes things like coworkers who quit
<azonenberg_work> inactive clients
<azonenberg_work> classmates i worked on grup projects with
<azonenberg_work> etc
<azonenberg_work> i keep the actual phone contact list fairly well trimmed but every once in a while i have to dig somebody up
<rqou> on this topic, azonenberg_work: IOA should try attacking the CNAM database
<azonenberg_work> Anyway of those, maybe 15-20 made it to an in-person date
<azonenberg_work> I scared most of them off quickly :p
<azonenberg_work> I only saw 4 of them more than once
<rqou> hey random question: whitequark: how expensive is a dean stark trap in RU?
* rqou is watching nurdrage
<whitequark> rqou: idk $5?
<whitequark> maybe $10, not more
<rqou> O_o
<rqou> why so much cheaper?
<whitequark> $7.5 to be precise
<azonenberg_work> There was one classmate that i did a lab tour / hang out with and then a movie night, then dropped out (for non-academic reasons), that wasn't from a dating site so doesnt count toward the percentages
<rqou> whitequark: why does the stuff that nurdrage showcases cost like CAD$600?
<whitequark> rqou: how much?!
<whitequark> that's absurd
<rqou> blame sigma-aldrich i guess
<whitequark> rushim imports this shit from CN at rock bottom prices, in fact they specifically say on the website to NOT insure packages
<azonenberg_work> There was one girl that i did a couple of movie nights and a hike with, but it never went anywhere and was more like "we're both bored and lonely while our classmates are gone for the summer"
<whitequark> because it's more expensive to pay for insurance than just reordering when something breaks
<rqou> oh wait this is a heavy-return trap
<azonenberg_work> Then there was my crazy ex
<rqou> but still
<azonenberg_work> and finally $wife
<rqou> why CAD$600 wtf?!
<whitequark> rqou: there's the other kind of trap at rushim too
<whitequark> but their website is shite so i don't wanna find it
<whitequark> look at the logo lol
<rqou> quality
<whitequark> i also like the pirated book collection linked from the frontpage
<whitequark> i think it's in koi8r
<whitequark> wtf chrome removed the encoding selector
<whitequark> assholes
<rqou> anyways, is the CAD$600 apparatus really that much better than a china $10 apparatus?
<rqou> i mean, it's just a shaped piece of glass, right?
<whitequark> yes
<whitequark> no it's not better
<rqou> i did notice that some ebay fractional distillation columns are shit, but you can see that they'
<rqou> they're shit
<whitequark> when you buy in rushim you're told to check if your glass has any holes in them and return if they have
<whitequark> a $600 one would probably not have any of those
<rqou> i.e. very short, very few plates/protrusions/etc.
<whitequark> but "looking for holes" is not worth $590
<rqou> lolol
<whitequark> i actually had to return a soxhlet because it had a hole
<rqou> well, it's only like USD$500 :P
<rqou> moosebucks aren't worth that much :P :P
<whitequark> they chided me for not looking carefully enough but exchanged without any question
<whitequark> rushim is... a weird place.
<whitequark> they have two sets of glass they are selling
<whitequark> one of them is "from a fire"
<whitequark> the other is "from a flood"
<whitequark> i got some glass from both
<whitequark> one had wrapping paper burned (they dgaf and didn't change it), the other had wrapping paper with water damage
<whitequark> checks out
<rqou> lololol
<whitequark> also the whole "liquid bromine, 3kg, pickup only" thing
<whitequark> i once went there to pick up a 100g bromine ampoule and they were out of them
<whitequark> the shop owner suggested i get the 3 kg one and then split it into smaller ones
<rqou> ah ok, in this nurdrage video he also features some indian seller of glassware that has some of this stuff for like ₹1500 or USD$25
<rqou> why are americans so willing to get themselves ripped off?
<whitequark> then continued in a very casual tone, "yesterday some guys went to pick up a 100g one... we were out... they bought the 3kg one... broke it almost immediately"
<azonenberg_work> lol
<azonenberg_work> and then what? :p
<azonenberg_work> did he have to hose them off the sidewalk?
<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master f2c109b whitequark: applet: use well defined build, run and interact phases....
<whitequark> not sure, i didn't ask
<whitequark> but i assume that yes
<whitequark> no idea where he gets his chill, maybe he's ex-military
<rqou> btw whitequark i assume you've seen the thing floating around about converting oxycontin to naloxone?
<whitequark> he also very obviously pays off the local equivalent of DEA
<whitequark> rushim reagents prominently feature in most drug lab cases, i've seen some docs published
<azonenberg_work> rqou: lol i have not seen that yet
<whitequark> rqou: yeah
<azonenberg_work> i've seen the one going from meth to pseudoephedrine
<azonenberg_work> that one is hilarious
<whitequark> azonenberg_work: the naloxone one is actually pretty practical
<azonenberg_work> oh?
<rqou> (<drama> eventually leads to Vice)
<whitequark> methamphetamine to pseudoephedrine requires a well equipped lab
<whitequark> naloxone from oxycontine is trivial
<whitequark> like, the J. Apoch. Chem. paper by O. Hai and I. B. Hakkenshit is a joke. no one would actually want to do that.
<zkms> if the "O. Hai and I. B. Hakkenshit" part wasn't enough to tell
<zkms> (also amphetamine is a good enough decongestant by itself)
<whitequark> i think the synthesis route they present works
<whitequark> but it's not practical
<whitequark> four steps, one of them is BuLi in THF in LN2
<whitequark> like seriously?!
<rqou> yeah that requires a pretty extensive lab
<whitequark> not even that
<whitequark> it's just a lot of work
<whitequark> all those steps are going to take, i'd say, several days
<azonenberg_work> i mean i guess it makes sense that you could make narcan from an opiate
<azonenberg_work> iirc the way it works is to bind to opiate receptors
<azonenberg_work> but in a way that blocks them rather than activating them
<whitequark> yes, it's a silent agonist
<whitequark> the interesting part here is just how easy it is
<azonenberg_work> So its structure is probably a minimal tweak to an actual opiate
<rqou> what is the actual procedure? i didn't actually see a description of that
<whitequark> ask bofh
<azonenberg_work> ok, i need to sleep
<azonenberg_work> The office is fully broken down and about 95% packed, still have to put the wife's computer and printer plus a switch in boxes
<rqou> heh i'm watching the latest Applied Science video and noticed that apparently current-limiting light bulbs are really really common
<rqou> somehow they never seem to actually teach that in class though :P
<azonenberg_work> Lab still needs a decent amount of work but the movers arent coming until 9ish and if i work much longer i'm gonna start breaking stuff
<azonenberg_work> So hmm, get up at 6? :p
<azonenberg_work> 4 hrs of sleep is better than none
<azonenberg_work> And i dont need to pack up the entire lab, just clear off all of the big benches and racks etc
<azonenberg_work> Since the small stuff can be transpoted later in the day in the car
<azonenberg_work> I just need them to take anything too big/heavy
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<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark created try (+3 new commits):^...4dc3c700e313
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/try 4dc3c70 whitequark: Travis: set up CI.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/try cd277fb whitequark: gateware: factor out simulation_test.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/try 0df640a whitequark: cli: rename test to internal-test.
<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark force-pushed try from 4dc3c70 to 8e69078:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/try 8e69078 whitequark: Travis: set up CI.
<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark force-pushed try from 8e69078 to 5ae9514:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/try 5ae9514 whitequark: Travis: set up CI.
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<rqou> wtf so much bot spam
<whitequark> rqou: is this a problem?
<rqou> i guess it's fine
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<rqou> so whitequark, are we going to get copies of homu too? :P
<whitequark> rqou: hm?
<rqou> yet another bot
<rqou> oh wait, homu doesn't interact with irc
<whitequark> not necessary right now
<rqou> nvm
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<openfpga-github> Glasgow/try 26a9c3d whitequark: Travis: set up CI.
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<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark deleted try at 26a9c3d:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master cd277fb whitequark: gateware: factor out simulation_test.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 0df640a whitequark: cli: rename test to internal-test.
<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark pushed 3 new commits to master:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 730282b whitequark: Travis: set up CI.
<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark pushed 3 new commits to master:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master e10e465 whitequark: software: add migen to install requirements.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 2a3cb02 whitequark: gateware.i2c_regs: unbreak tests after 02f390bc.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 56f4944 whitequark: firmware: add explicit __xdata qualifiers where required.
<rqou> offtopic: watching byuu struggle with GUIs is hilarious
<rqou> i wonder if it would be easier to bypass all the libraries and just speak the X protocol directly
<rqou> is that considered a stable ABI?
<whitequark> good luck getting it to run on wayland lo
<rqou> i currently don't care about wayland
<whitequark> hm, actually no, it will run
<whitequark> on xwayland
<rqou> not until the whole EGLStreams bikeshed that i don't quite understand is resolved
<whitequark> wtf migen isn't on pypi
<rqou> and?
<whitequark> why the hell isn't it
<rqou> sb0 didn't care enough to upload it?
<whitequark> this means you can't do `pip3 install glasgow`
<rqou> sb0 likes that shitty package manager too much? :P
<whitequark> conda?
<whitequark> yeah no
<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark pushed 2 new commits to master:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master ab0ed0a whitequark: Travis: install migen from git.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 8f24ab3 whitequark: Travis: fix unittest command.
<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 085bba2 whitequark: Travis: remove skip_join from IRC notifications.
<whitequark> hm, why doesn't it work
<rqou> what doesn't work? did you try to make the bot send notices without being joined to the channel?
<rqou> that's disabled due to spam
<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] whitequark force-pushed master from 085bba2 to 9ff3631:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 9ff3631 whitequark: Travis: remove nick: from IRC notification config.
<travis-ci> whitequark/Glasgow#11 (master - 9ff3631 : whitequark): The build passed.
<whitequark> rqou: nope, isn't disabled
<whitequark> but only works if the nick is travis-ci for some reason
<rqou> ok, well, it was at one point
<whitequark> anyway, woo, glasgow CI works
<rqou> maybe travis is whitelisted
<whitequark> now to add tests to applets
<rqou> another random offtopic observation: apparently that fancy multimeter designed by that annoying aussie bloke is _also_ centered around a chinese DMM AFE chip
<rqou> are these chips actually any good or are they just cheap?
<daveshah> They certainly reduce the part count
<daveshah> I suspect they are a lot cheaper than any alternative
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<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master c8605be whitequark: fix timeout handling.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master a4b1e30 whitequark: target.access: factor out pin/pad operations from
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<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 2c128cb whitequark: target.access: rename to access.
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master dcff794 whitequark: applet: make run() and interact() asyncio coroutines....
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 24ef45b whitequark: target.test: rename to target.internal_test.
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<openfpga-github> [Glasgow] awygle pushed 1 new commit to master:
<openfpga-github> Glasgow/master 7e4f5f4 awygle: Select RN MPN, populate and add to schematic.
<travis-ci> whitequark/Glasgow#14 (master - 7e4f5f4 : awygle): The build passed.
<awygle> oh wow travis will ping me every time lol
* awygle is not used to having ci
<awygle> rqou: didn't you have either an excel spreadsheet or just an image showing the physical placement of pins on some ice40 bga?