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<gruetzkopf> whoa
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<TD-Linux> can't wait for my power MOSFETs with built in 8051
<whitequark> lol
<emeb> used to be "transistors so cheap they're virtually free". Now it's CPUs so cheap they're virtually free...
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<sorear> TD-Linux: I think you’re describing a motor controller
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<TD-Linux> (I believe the MCE 2.0 option is 8051 based)
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<mkdir> hello
<mkdir> just curious, what's the minimum order quantity for ASICs?
<emeb> Which ASICs?
<mkdir> for some custom ASIC, I am trying to gather the cost for my boss
<mkdir> He heard about multi fab processes and was curious about what it costs to make a custom ASIC today
<mkdir> they have this thing now, I believe, called multi group fab where groups fab their ASICs together
<emeb> That's been around for decades.
<emeb> Prices vary depending on what process you use - geometry, layers, etc.
<emeb> Cheapest I've seen is a few thousand $$
<emeb> but that's a highly constrained design where many designs are on the same *die* with limited access to I/O pads.
<mkdir> Thanks emeb, I don't know yet specifically what process is used, but I assume layers.
<mkdir> are mask and nre cost still the bulk of the cost to manufacture a custom ASIC
<jn__> a important process parameter will be the structure size (like 180nm, etc.)
<mkdir> what are the structure size tradeoffs?
<mkdir> complexity? i.e more complex lower nm?
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