17:19 <ArmbianTwitter> @lanefu (Lane Jennison): @sahajsarup @worksonarm @AmpereComputing Fortunately I have one... will be setting Qemu on M1 soonish once I get armbian to boot in Qemu on our worksonarm box https://tinyurl.com/yfobod9c (9s ago)

18:38 <IgorPec> martinayotte: are you seeing this AR-749 ?

18:38 <ArmbianHelper> AR-749 [Bug] "Allwinner A20 bootloops on 5.11.y / 2021.04" reported by Igor Pecovnik at 2021-05-16. Status: To Do

18:39 <Macer> good afternoon

18:40 <Macer> i am using armbian focal on my pinebook pro. just a bit curious why the background won't change.

18:43 <IgorPec> macer, good afternoon ... its a bug. not feature

18:43 <Macer> seems so lol

18:44 <IgorPec> we already fix it, so future release won't have this problem

18:45 <Macer> oh ok. cool. i'll wait for it to be pushed. i haven't really tested it yet but i know people in pine64 had said there was some awkwardness with the pcie connection with sleeping but there was a patch for uboot/fw to fix it. was this already implemented into armbian?

18:46 <IgorPec> no idea, don't have pinebook pro

18:48 <IgorPec> we mainly have all those low level fixes

18:49 <Macer> the battery consumption overall seems better than manjaro

18:53 <IgorPec> nice to hear. some people around are using it as a daily driver, but nobody used manjaro long enough - one boot - and voila :)

18:55 <Macer> no offense to them but manjaro leaves things to be desired

18:55 <Macer> the sleep issue is a big one but that isn't necessarily a manjaro issue. it is a pine64/rk issue

18:55 <IgorPec> well, it is. manjaro is pine64 partner

18:56 <Macer> yes. they landed on manjaro for both the pinebook and pinephone

18:57 <Macer> personally i think ubuntu touch was better along even though all the pinephone operating systems / mobile ui have such a long way to go

18:57 <IgorPec> they are in this since years

18:57 <IgorPec> well, ubuntu is more problematic due to not using most recent sw

18:58 <IgorPec> arch / manjaro don't have issues with this

18:58 <Macer> yes. ubuntu touch is incredibly dated.

18:58 <IgorPec> and you have to sacrifice features to gain stability

18:58 <Macer> UBPorts took it over but without that canonical money... it seems like opensolaris/openindiana after oracle

18:58 <IgorPec> both you can't have

18:59 <IgorPec> UBports is unrelated to canonical i thnik

18:59 <Macer> it is

18:59 <Macer> they simply took over the project after canonical abandoned it

18:59 <IgorPec> i met few people from both in person few years back

19:00 <IgorPec> don't know that much about, but they are more in mobile linux things

19:00 <IgorPec> which we don't deal much with

19:01 <Macer> i am sure they are a different beast. especially when trying to make it a pseudo phone / desktop

19:01 <Macer> maemo was the closest to doing it right, but then nokia went away :( but armbian on pbp seems overall better to use imo

19:01 <IgorPec> yeah, but until there will be Allwinner A64 based Pinephone as the only device ... useless

19:02 <IgorPec> nokia ... oh

19:02 <IgorPec> bring memories

19:02 <Macer> <3 nokia :(

19:03 <Macer> N900 and E7 were some of the best devices ever made

19:03 <IgorPec> my 1st https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/183011365506_/NOKIA-RD72-similar-to-NOKIA-720-NMT-VINTAGE.jpg :)

19:05 <Macer> hah!

19:05 <IgorPec> not very fancy, analogue

19:05 <Macer> is that a heat sink on the bottom of it?

19:05 <Macer> did it use vacuum tubes? :)

19:06 <IgorPec> hmm, probably. don't really recall

19:06 <IgorPec> haha. no no, it has ICs :)

19:07 <IgorPec> and there is a GSM variant too. mine was analogue since our 1st mobile netowork was not GSM

19:23 <sunshavi> n900 on my hand. I still use it as mobile terminal

19:36 <Macer> sunshavi, yah. i sold my last one on ebay quite a long time ago. about the time i decided to give up on the non-mainstream phones and just went with an iphone

19:36 <Macer> i am a bit disappointed that the newer windows phones did not make it anywhere. MS really dropped the ball on that.

20:06 <nekomancer[m]> /me have Nokia N9300i on table nead bed. It duties as alarm clock.

20:07 <nekomancer[m]> physical buttons + smart multi-alarm — delicious!

20:23 <Macer> nokia n810 was a nice little device too

20:23 <Macer> too bad nokia never really took it seriously consideringn the n770 was probably quite a bit ahead of iphones

20:36 <nekomancer[m]> fsck capitalists!

20:59 <Macer> ah well.. let me see what happens when i put this thing to sleep for a while. hopefully it resumes without issue.

21:48 <Macer> seems like waking it up had a dead wifi module

23:49 <ArmbianTwitter> @lanefu (Lane Jennison): Behold @armbian running as VM with KVM Accelerated and virtio running on our @worksonarm host. Built with our build tools. Still using uboot too https://t.co/ft3D62v8Fh https://tinyurl.com/yz377e2p (17s ago)

23:56 <sunshavi> PP with maemo-leste could be really pretty good. Nothing has beaten n900 until now

23:57 <sunshavi> I loved the dpad on n8x0

23:58 <Macer> kind of a stupid thing but i sure can't seem to find an emoji picker for armbian focal