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<Kythyria[m]> Protocol overhead. HTTP 1.1 is extremely hard ot beat for this.
<Kythyria[m]> (IDK if there are IPFS clients that do like bittorrent clients do and request from multiple peers in parallel)
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<lgierth> ipfs does
<lgierth> there's just a bit of overhead that needs to be optimized away
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<anon136> Would someone like to test my XKCD mirror and let me know if it feels responsive? Particularly the blog part and the "what if" part because I dont think anyone else is serving those files. http://localhost:8080/ipfs/QmdQUgtNxx4hecZgQ3nieoaSZiCeSLpoGQPrneyWZEThzQ/xkcd.com/1870/index.html
<IRC-Source_55127> Thanks for clarifying.
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<whyrusleeping> Hey everyone! We just released an ipfs 0.4.13 release candidate. If you were wanting to use the experimental 'badgerds' datastore option, then this should fix a few things for you.
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<massino_> Can a single ipfs daemon serve multiple clients with different keys, if the clients don't trust each other? Or should the daemon be considered a single indivisible trust domain?
<whyrusleeping> massino_: right now a daemon should be considered a 'per user' thing
<whyrusleeping> we're working on api keys to help separate apps that want to use a given ipfs node though
<massino_> Got it. Is it a fundamental design principle, or something you might implement (or encourage contributors to implement) in the future?
<massino_> Based on your last message, the latter?
<whyrusleeping> yeah, its the latter
<whyrusleeping> The picture I have in my head is users being able to have all sorts of different apps that use a single ipfs node
<whyrusleeping> but each app cant interfere with the other apps
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<massino_> that's exactly what I want :)
<massino_> I suspect many other people will want it too
<whyrusleeping> yeah, If you have ideas on the UX for that, please let us know
<whyrusleeping> see these two issues for some discussion: https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/159 https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/2389
<flyinglasanga[m]> Hiya folks, I'm hoping I might be able to find some good resources here on testing remote procedure calls.
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<flyinglasanga[m]> how does IPFS do their integration tests?
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<Steverman> I am not sure I understand the multiaddr scheme. "/dns4/star-signal.cloud.ipfs.team/wss/p2p-webrtc-star/" is the same as "wss://star-signal.cloud.ipfs.team/p2p-webrtc-star/"?
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<JCaesar> Hm, I'd like a function that combines ipfs add -r, and ipfs files cp, additionally overwriting what was previously at that path being copied to, and making sure the pin gets erased when the files entry gets removed.
<JCaesar> I guess that's three feature requests in one…
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<JCaesar> The first two sound simple enough that I might be able to implement them… Should I just try and then make a pull request?
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<voker57> JCaesar: maybe drop the pin altogether, ipfs files are pinned already
<Steverman> I don't know if I found a problem in js-multiaddr: But is it supposed to be like this? /dns4/domain.eu:9999/ws/p2p-webrtc-star works; /dns4/domain.eu/tcp/9999/ws/p2p-webrtc-star doesn't work
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<mib_kd743naq> daviddias: hi! I saw you did some work on earlier: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs/blob/master/ROADMAP-TO-1.0.0.md
<daviddias> that's correct :)
<mib_kd743naq> it seems it has marked a lot of the unixfs / ipld stuff as done, where that's not really the case
<daviddias> We have Unixfs over IPLD
<daviddias> https://github.com/ipfs/ipld-unixfs/issues is about creating a new Unixfs that uses dag-cbor
<daviddias> and leverages new IPLD APIs
<mib_kd743naq> that's not the case though - the current unixfs is exclusively pb-based, and as such doesn't have much to do with IPLD
<daviddias> Nevertheless, every time that you add a file to IPFS today you are indeed using IPLD
<Steverman> Can someone confirm if it's just me that's incorrect?
<daviddias> dag-pb and dag-cbor are both IPLD
<mib_kd743naq> daviddias: ok... then I guess I am confused on what the scope of "IPLD" ( as a term ) is, in which case everything I said above is bogus
<mib_kd743naq> though I still have an uneasy feeling that unxifs is not "1.0 ready"
<daviddias> Steverman: it should work, looks like you found a bug
<Steverman> Oh okay.. woo!
<mib_kd743naq> daviddias: tangentially - the roadmap document does not mention symlinks at all, and while there has been some spec work done on those, there is no implmentation that can actually work with them, e.g.: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/zdjA8nvnAauzbHp4v4vQHaDm8n4Csbs38TjhWyAsdx7YsGBA6/linkz.extracted/linkz_pointers/sym_%F0%9F%92%A8_link
<daviddias> mib_kd743naq: added a note here https://github.com/ipfs/ipld-unixfs/pull/2/files#r151418121
<daviddias> mib_kd743naq: I've updated the doc to give it a clean up and bring attention to it
<daviddias> we must do a proper review of all the points and check if they are still the ones we want for 1.0.0
<daviddias> and definite metrics to decide what is done and what it isn't
<JCaesar> voker57: Really? I read somewhere that they weren't, and that there was a kind of best-efford-pinning to be added (i.e. do not evict things in ipfs files from cache, but do not pull unless requested).
<JCaesar> Hm, guess that changed.
<Steverman> I'll try to fix it.. if not... create an issue
<voker57> JCaesar: yes, it's no-pull but if you're adding files you don't need it
<mib_kd743naq> daviddias: marvelous, thank you!
<daviddias> with that multiaddr that fails to you
<Steverman> Sure
<daviddias> and fix the parsing until it passes
<JCaesar> voker57, so https://github.com/ipfs/faq/issues/143#issuecomment-231484012 has been implemented? Nice.
<Steverman> I always wanted to contribute, but never found the right place to start
<voker57> JCaesar: yes
<daviddias> Steverman: awesome! here you go :D
<Steverman> Eh, might as well. My semester project depends on IPFS.
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<Steverman> Took a risk
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<daviddias> Steverman: where are you studying?
<Steverman> Computer Science
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<Steverman> Taking a masters course on IoT, P2P and cloud computing
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<Steverman> It has been a rough ride
<daviddias> nice, excellent choice!
<Steverman> My project can be about anything, I just need to include p2p and a little bit of IoT. I could either use my own implementation of Kademlia, or try something else. Decided on IPFS, but browser support is not that great
<Steverman> And it turns out DHT support isn't quite there yet. But it's still P2P!
<daviddias> Have you seen https://computes.io/ ?
<Steverman> I have not
<Steverman> I am not sure what capability the browser has. Is it capable of distributing data it fetches with ipfs.files.get?
<daviddias> It is, to other browsers
<daviddias> and nodes it can find
<daviddias> but it can't find all the nodes yet
<Steverman> Right, so I have a nodejs without webrtc that I had to add to the bootstrap list
<Steverman> nodejs node*
<Steverman> webrtc is veeeery buggy
<daviddias> yeah, tell me about it :(
<Steverman> https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-webrtc-star/issues/57 <-- only for Ubuntu by the way
<Steverman> Not quite the same for Arch Linux
<Steverman> I had to compile libwebrtc from source
<Steverman> I'm quite new to open source, and using github features. Should I reopen?
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<Steverman> Yes, but browsers can't download from nodejs without crashing it
<Steverman> Can I just add the discovery module?
<daviddias> You can
<daviddias> but then it wouldn't dial
<Steverman> I have spent too many days debugging my issue, and it was all webrtc related
<Steverman> I ended up adding nodejs to the bootstrap list. I don't know what's causing it to crash when sending data using webrtc as transport
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<daviddias> Steverman: you might have better results using electron-webrtc
<daviddias> https://www.npmjs.com/package/wrtc is just super unstable
<Steverman> Regarding the heavy CPU usage with webrtc. Is it simply because it is connecting to too many peers? I believe hosting your own signal server would do for dev purposes
<Steverman> daviddias: It's that package I am using :)
<daviddias> Steverman: that's correct
<Steverman> electron-webrtc causes this. Wrtc doesn't work with precompiled libraries
<Steverman> I've tested both, and they're both buggy
<Steverman> Hopefully libp2p-websockets-star will be implemented
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<mib_kd743naq> <@daviddias> and definite metrics to decide what is done and what it isn't
<mib_kd743naq> daviddias: ^^ is there a ticket for this specifically? would like to lurk-subscribe to it ;)
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<daviddias> mib_kd743naq: just created one https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs/issues/284 :)
<Steverman> Is it aegir that looks for CHROME_BIN env?
<mib_kd743naq> daviddias: thank you very much
<daviddias> thank you for keeping everything in check! :)
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<Steverman> How confusing. When do files split up in to DAG objects?
<Steverman> into* 2
<Icefoz_> Steverman: What do you mean?
<whyrusleeping> Steverman: technically always
<whyrusleeping> but i think the answer you're looking for is 'when they are larger than the chunksize'
<whyrusleeping> which is by default 256k
<Steverman> Ah okay
<Steverman> Sounds about right
<Steverman> I was getting an array of chunks
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<Steverman> Didn't handle bigger files :)
<miflow[m]> How far is pinning in js-ipfs away?
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<flyinglasanga[m]> can anyone refer me to resources about IPFS's integration testing ?
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<moshisushi> daviddias: hey, been away for a while from #ipfs.. had a question from Steverman about the HLS loader. Do you know if it was sorted?
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