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<victorbjelkholm> I'm seeing " We are investigating reports of elevated error rates" there
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<qazerowl> When I first looked at ipfs a couple years ago, the biggest two things that stopped me from using it were that hashes were not stored (so sharing a 50GB folder that you added one file to required you to hash all 50GB again), and that sharing files required you to strore a seperate copy of them.
<qazerowl> So, sharing the 50GB of files you have on your hard drive created another 50GB in the .ipfs directory
<qazerowl> And, at the time, I was told that both of the issues were going to be fixed soon, but after a month or two I stopped following the project. Have either of those two issues been resolved?
<pengo> qazerowl, i noticed there's now ipfs add --nocopy (marked as experimental)
<pengo> i don't know more about it
<lgierth> yeah
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<qazerowl> pengo, lgierth, that definately solves the biggest problem. Do you know of a way to prevent the rehashing issue?
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<lgierth> qazerowl: write a tool that keeps track of file changes (e.g. based on rsync or inotify), then you can add the individual changed files and patch them into the directory in ipfs using `ipfs object patch`
<lgierth> there doesn't currently exist a good tool that does that
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<qazerowl> lgierth: ipfs object patch allows for manually adding and removing files and folders from already hashed/shared folders? that sounds like it will work for me as it
<qazerowl> *is
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<pengo> if you try to retrieve a non-exist file from ipfs, then it appears to just sit there searching forever
<pengo> is there a sensible way to decide how long to wait before giving up?
<pengo> like a standard algorithm to choose soemwhere between "keep searching until you're pretty sure it's not there" and "do a quick check and give up quickly"
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<lgierth> pengo: a node with that file might come online at any point though :)
<pengo> yes but humans don't live an infinite time
<pengo> so you need to compromise sometimes
<pengo> a simple timeout in seconds seems to make less sense for ipfs where there are other factors at play like number of peers etc
<lgierth> mmh i was pretty sure we had a --timeout flag
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<lgierth> ah yeah there it is
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<lgierth> pengo: you can pass --timeout on any command, e.g. ipfs --timeout 30s ls QmFoo
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<lgierth> (i filed an issue to add documentation for --timeout)
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<pengo> i guess there anything more abstract then? e.g. to say --timeout "fast" (e.g. don't timeout too fast if we have no peers, but once we have a few don't search for too long)
<lgierth> :)
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<lgierth> nope just durations - https://golang.org/pkg/time/#ParseDuration
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<pengo> k thanks
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<pengo> woohoo i finally got my code to make a checksum that matches ipfs add -n somewhat
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<pengo> {"Links":[],"Data":"\u0008\u0002\u0012\tmultihash\u0018\t"} ok this the json for a 9-byte textfile containing the text "multihash".. Can anyone briefly explain to me what's with the padding / control characters?
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<deltab> pengo: that's the protobuf-encoded data, as detailed in https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/unixfs/pb/unixfs.proto
<pengo> thanks
<deltab> 08 02 means Type 2, file; 12 09 multihash is the data with a length prefix, and 18 09 means the file size is 9
<pengo> nice thanks
<pengo> i tried to google *ipfs padding* but I got a page about codpieces and shoulder pads
<pengo> (wikipedia padding article)
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<Steverman> How much can the websocket-star-rendervouz server handle?
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<Steverman> I'm about to do a live demo , and AFAIK, data goes through it
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<mkg20001[m]> Steverman: If you don't care about serving the site on http you can also connect to other normal peers via websockets and use p2p-circuit to connect with the browser peers over those peers. this removes the need for a fast rendezvous server. discovery should be possible via floodsub if the peers have the same bootstrapper peers.
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<JCaesar> pengo: Interesting. What exactly are you doing there? (I was hoping that IPFS hashes could be included in some package managers, but that would require a hashing implementation that's not go-ipfs, I think.)
<pengo> Something like that, yeah. Making something of a download manager and thoughut it would be nice to use the same hash as IPFS.. but didn't realize the difficulty of getting it the same
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<pengo> sha-256 + base56 encoding is simple enough.. but also have to wrap up file with metadata and padding and whatnot
<JCaesar> would be nice if there was some way to query ipfs just with sha-256 + base56, yes…
<JCaesar> base56? 58?
<pengo> er yeah that
<pengo> they could just have a very slightly different address format or modified hash that means "this is a raw file with none of that fancy protobuff stuff"
<lgierth> y'all should have a look at CID: http://github.com/ipld/cid
<pengo> fine. i will
<pengo> # TODO example :(
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<lgierth> something like `ipfs add --cid-version=1` should do
<lgierth> that'll imply --raw-leaves=true (i.e. no chunking)
<pengo> i was wondering what raw leaves meant
<pengo> --no-chunking might be more descriptive
<lgierth> hehe indeed
<Steverma1> Omg, do we have that in js?
<haad> hey everyone o/ just released a new version of OrbitDB and it's a great one! :) https://github.com/orbitdb/orbit-db/issues/256. would love to get feedback as well as issue reports, etc.
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: its not no chunking
<lgierth> ooh right
<lgierth> it's no-protobuf-wrapping-around-the-chunks
<Steverma1> Really? :D
<pengo> so CIDv1 is like a ipfs hash but with some optional prefixes?
<lgierth> nice haad :D
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<haad> thanks
<Steverma1> haad: you're using Reactjs + reflux for the project right?
<haad> orbitdb itself doesn't use react or reflux, it's module that you can include in your react/frontend app
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<Steverma1> Oh, it's the db repo
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<Steverma1> I'm pretty new to the React (JS in general), and currently using React for my frontend as well
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<Steverma1> And I am not sure where to put the event listeners from pubsub-room
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<aibanez> Hello all! Happy to be here!
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<aibanez> ¿how can I stop the daemon please?
<aibanez> ipfscd shutdown
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<voker57> ctrl-c in daemon console
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<aibanez> ¿Why this code https://pastebin.com/2q260nNa never enter on ready event? I'm on node 9.2. ipfs as a daemon. Thanks!
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<RangerMauve> Where should I be posting on github to discuss encrypting IPFS DAG nodes before storing them and new APIs for working with such nodes?
<aibanez> this code runs on the browser but not using node
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<victorbjelkholm> aibanez: you should be listening for the `error` event as well, as something might go wrong when starting the node
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<aibanez> victorbjelkholm: thanks! You're right. I get this error "Error: can't lock file /home/user/.jsipfs/repo.lock: has non-zero size" ¿any ideas how can I fix this error?
<victorbjelkholm> aibanez: cool. Have not seen that before, maybe running multiple js-ipfs nodes on the same repository? Try starting up from another path
<victorbjelkholm> The constructor takes a object as its argument, that object can have "repo" as a key and a string of the path as the value
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<aibanez> victorbjelkholm: This is my first try with ipfs
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<aibanez> victorbjelkholm: I restart the computer but the same error is still there
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<aibanez> I'm on linux mint. Delete the repo.lock file but the error is still the same
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<aitiba> ps aux | grep ipfs empty
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<aitiba> I delete repo.lock file on .jsipfs and the code goes ok. Now I have another errors relathed to orbit-db. Thanks victorbjelkholm !
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<aitiba> Now using orbit-db and this code https://pastebin.com/zQ36p5Zc I get this error "TypeError: Cannot read property 'peers' of undefined" on /ipfs/src/core/components/pubsub.js:75 (const peers = Array.from(self._pubsub.peers.values())). IPFS is started. ¿Any ideas how can I fix this problem? Thanks!
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<victorbjelkholm> aitiba: no worries, glad you got closer! Now you need to enable the experimental pubsub feature (for orbitdb to work), it's documented in the readme of js-ipfs (would link but on mobile)
<aitiba> victorbjelkholm: Thanks! I add this object to new IPFS():{ EXPERIMENTAL: { pubsub: true, sharding: true, dht: true }}. Seems that the erro was gone! :-)
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<aitiba> Using orbit-db, the database is stored on IPFS too. So with "const db = await orbitdb.log('database name')" and "await db.load()", you have this database ¿right?
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