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<Steverman>
I can't seem to get 2 browsers share share files between each other. I let one of the browsers 'get' a file from a nodejs server, then I close nodejs. After that, I go the other browser and try to 'get' the same hash
<Steverman>
-share :)
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<deltab>
Steverman: are they connected to each other?
<Steverman>
They use the same signal server, and can see each other messages with pub sub
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<Steverman>
It's the only thing I need to get barebones p2p live streaming up and running
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<anon2[m]>
HI There, Does gateway.ipfs.io have a Term of Service? I am wondering if it is safe to distribute contents through this domain?
<whyrusleeping>
anon2[m]: we respond to DMCA requests for content served through the ipfs.io gateways (since they are servers we are hosting)
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<cehteh>
how is that done? blacklisting hashes?
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<anon2[m]>
whyrusleeping Thank you for the response. What about limitations? If a website consumes a lot of bandwidth by embedding pictures served from gateway.ipfs.io, is the website going to be blocked?
<anon2[m]>
There might be websites who want to save bandwidth costs by totally relying on a public gateway.
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<gde33>
After hoarding rss subscriptions for many years I think the overal conclusion is that people have no idea how fast the web is changing. Old sites out new sites in.
<gde33>
Some 30 k filtered subscriptions at one time yielded 1-2000 new results with the oldest going back rougly 12 hours
<gde33>
the oldest one of that set is now 863 hours old
<gde33>
oldest new item
<gde33>
I'm guessing 25-27 k of the 30 aren't being updated anymore or have vanished
<Kythyria[m]>
Everyone's moved to "social media" (read, twiter and facebook) for notifying that new articles exist.
<gde33>
that doesn't work for real volumes, you just end up reading the mass replicated news
<gde33>
if you can even call it news, it looks more like a product purchased by someone in power
<gde33>
it is very hard to escape the news that mainstream outlets want you to be reading
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<gde33>
I dont even know what news really is suppose to be
<gde33>
I'm just looking for freshly published intersting articles
<gde33>
but the social media mass migration seems to be doing a great job killing websites
<gde33>
before it was google who just slaughtered small websites, I think it was with their panda filter
<gde33>
where even exact article titles + authors full name fail to produce the article
<gde33>
that just murdered the niche websites that have small traffic by definition
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<JCaesar>
Error: Unknown Command "repo" - Did you mean this? - repo
<JCaesar>
that is ever so slightly confusing…
<JCaesar>
(happens on $ ipfs daemon repo fsck. the docker container confused me.)
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<appa[m]1>
If part of the goal for ipfs is to have a permanent web, how do you "Google"
<appa[m]1>
The ipfs web?
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<miflow[m]>
Yeah, we still need a search engine for ipfs.
<r0kk3rz>
the same way you google the http web
<r0kk3rz>
someone indexes it
<DuClare>
That's like asking, if the goal is to ride a pony, how do you eat buns?
<miflow[m]>
I am not very far with my attempt at one currently
<r0kk3rz>
one does not simply ride ponies without eating buns, i mean honestly
<lgierth>
you make your search index an IPLD data structure
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<void9>
question.. if I add a file on ipfs, and it has the same size/hash as another file already on ipfs, will they have the same "Source" ? or will it be unique only to my local node/respository
<void9>
what i mean is, will it share peers with the same file present on another repository
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<lgierth>
yeah both your node and the other node having the file will show up as providers of the file
<void9>
how about this for example, I see the links as text filenames relative to the node address...
<void9>
why don't they have hashes themselves?
<lgierth>
nice risc content
<lgierth>
they do - you just don't see them because you're seeing these files in the content of their parent directory
<lgierth>
try `ipfs ls <hash>`
<lgierth>
(and i meant context above, although i guess content somewhat works too in that sentence)
<lgierth>
gonna pull those risc lectures
<lgierth>
do you mind?
<void9>
they're not mine, i was just browsing reddit for ipfs links so I can figure out how this works. I went and googled something like distribute git-like repository over torrent
<void9>
seems ipfs is what I need : D
<lgierth>
hah ok
<lgierth>
yeap you're in the right place :)
<void9>
P:\go-ipfs>ipfs ls QmNwEiWPc8EPc9kGEqdi9UeM5RY8jRJSPVdrtKELFZRH85
<lgierth>
check https://archives.ipfs.io for more stuff (and github.com/ipfs/archives/issue for even more)
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<void9>
that ipfs ls command is pretty slow
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<lgierth>
yeah -- it actually the first block of each things it lists, otherwise it can't know whether it's a directory and needs a slash appended to the name
<lgierth>
try it with --resolve-type=false
<void9>
interesting. so each node, folder, and file has its own unique hash
<lgierth>
and links are (name,hash,size)
<void9>
but folder hashes have to be relative to the node hashes, right?
<lgierth>
if the hash of a contained file changes, the directory's hash changes
<lgierth>
it's a bit lengthy but really informative
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<void9>
that's what I mean, so a glogal network folder hash is possible, as long as the files are the same. and the folder hash is generated from the hashes of the files inside. right.. makes sense
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<lgierth>
and with that one hash you can verify ALL the contained data that you fetch
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<void9>
does it support versioning ?let's say a folder is renamed, do I have to redownload all the contents of that folder to be in sync ?
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<void9>
oh, so the file/folder name is not part of the hash, just the binary contents, right?
<lgierth>
yeah
<lgierth>
name is part of the parent's link to the file -- the hash is *only* file content
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<void9>
I am really surprised nobody thought to make something like this.. like many years ago
<void9>
seems the obvious solution to so many problems :)
<void9>
oh, so basically removes all the cached contest I previously accessed on ipfs?
<void9>
except for the stuff in my own repo
<void9>
just one more spoon feed please, how do I get the hash of a file on the local disk to check if it's already on ipfs, without actually adding it?
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<void9>
ipfs add --only-hash
<lgierth>
yep that ^ :)
<void9>
the hashins is much slower than disk speed : (
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<lgierth>
it reads a bit of data, then chunks it, hashes it, next bit of data
<lgierth>
needs some concurrency :)
<void9>
300MB/s disk. ~50mb/s hashing
<lgierth>
yeah that's about right
<void9>
any way to look up a hash to see if it was "seen" before on the network? like an ipfs hash history
<lgierth>
there's quite some headroom for optimizations there, but we're focusing on other things right now
<lgierth>
you can only try and ask the network whether anyone is providing it
<lgierth>
ipfs dht findprovs <hash>
<void9>
I added a file from my hard drives (rather popular I assume), now I am not sure if I was the first to seed it or not.. seems available even if I turn off the node
<void9>
but I tried to retrieve it from ipfs.io
<lgierth>
ipfs.io is just a regular go-ipfs node, so it caches content for a while
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<atmoz>
Does nodes cache content automatically? I thought content had to be manually pinned?
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<lgierth>
pinning is for actually keeping stuf
<void9>
are tehre scripts somewhere that 1. permanently syncs a local folder to ipfs 2. permanently syncs an ipfs folder to a local folder
<lgierth>
not sure there currently are, but you can try the fuse mount: ipfs mount --help (it'll mount /ipfs and /ipns into your local filesystem)
<void9>
and how often will that get refreshed/synced to ipfs?
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<lgierth>
immediately
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<void9>
so changes are broadcasted on the network and the ipfs node will immediately pick it up and resync?
<lgierth>
it won't proactively fetch it at the moment
<void9>
will this mount command store any files by default or just have them browsable via ipfs? I wanted a true local disk sync, not just ipfs cache storage
<lgierth>
you can copy stuff into /ipns/local and it'll be available as /ipns/<your-peerid>
<lgierth>
it'll fetch and store when you request files, but not pin them
<lgierth>
gotta go
<lgierth>
you'll figure it out :)
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<void9>
thanks fo the infos
<lgierth>
have fun! :)
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<atrus6>
I'm happy to see that the number of swarm peers I'm connected too has been increasing over time. When I first started using the firefox plugin it was ~300, now it's almost always over 1k
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<void9>
what firefox plugin?
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<ehmry>
is there a document explaining the swarm protocol?
<void9>
omg I just realised ipfs duplicates all the files that i add into .ipfs
<void9>
horrible
<void9>
: (
<Kythyria[m]>
Well, it's a filesystem :P
<void9>
yeah but
<void9>
I have to have 2x the space to share everything
<void9>
I have to buy another 8 hard drives wtf lol
<void9>
there should be an option to use the local files as they are