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<jfmherokiller[m]>
hi i was wondering if hypothetically could ipfs be used as a cache backend for something like this http://www.squid-cache.org/ to kind of autoadd content to the ipfs network while also enhancing ones regular browsing expirence.
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<deltab>
jfmherokiller[m]: I think the propblem with that is finding it again, if given only the url
<deltab>
ipfs is indexed by hash, so you need the hash to get the data
<jfmherokiller[m]>
maybe storing the hash somehow?
<deltab>
yes, but where?
<Kythyria[m]>
Well, squid must already store cache keys somehow.
<Kythyria[m]>
And generally associate metadata with each cached item.
<deltab>
ah, okay
<deltab>
then what happens?
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<voker57>
problem is, squid probably uses something it can produce from actual URI to index the cache
<voker57>
so everything you can do is just add everything that passes thru squid to IPFS
<voker57>
good for network, useless for squid itself
<Kythyria[m]>
You would store an index that maps from squid cache keys to IPFS hashes.
<Kythyria[m]>
Likely as part of the storage driver.
<voker57>
and I guess you could serve IPFS headers with Squid response so result can be fetched from IPFS
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<deltab>
hmm, but squid already sends a response itself, so no need for the client to send an ipfs request separately
<deltab>
it'd be useful if the response had a hash for the site, so that the client's future requests could go over ipfs instead
<deltab>
but you can only get a hash for a site by getting hashes for all its data
<voker57>
squid can respond to HEAD requests with IPFS hashes
<voker57>
anyway, that is rather theoretical discussion
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<jfmherokiller[m]>
im guess my theretical question is actually good and tbh i mostly wanted it to allow me to help the ipfs network while also using squid to cache webpages on my slow and buggy connection
<Kythyria[m]>
deltab: Surely a client that already knows about IPFS wouldn't bother with HTTP to begin with?
<voker57>
how would you serve IPFS data over your slow and buggy connection?
<deltab>
Kythyria[m]: indeed, there's a fundamental disparity between the two
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<jfmherokiller[m]>
voker57:
<jfmherokiller[m]>
voker57: i will host the data when my connection improves
<jfmherokiller[m]>
im sitting on 10TB of SSD storage and kind of want to make use of it for ipfs :P
<voker57>
well then I guess it would be useful if you stored everything coming through squid in IPFS (excluding private data somehow?) at least once there is a working indexer once again
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<pengo>
ipfs could make sense for caching if you had a distributed cache across multiple machines dealing with large files?
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<pengo>
i mean, that's kinda what IPFS is -- a distributed/decentralized cache
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<voker57>
yeah you could also run a private network
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<jfmherokiller[m]>
@voker57: i also kind of want todo it in hopes of reducing duplicate data from say webfonts or jquery libs
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<orbisvicis>
Some questions about the future of ipfs: 1] when filecoin becomes a thing, users are paying not just for storage but also its reliability, whats to prevent providers from walking away and trashing data whenever 2] if copyrighted content whitelists become widespread won't that stop me from storing my legally owned copyrighted files in ipfs or sharing them with my family ?
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<Kythyria[m]>
You have to explicitly configure your node to care about the whitelist AFAIK.
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<pengo>
1) not sure but on similar systems i think the providers have to put up a deposit/collateral, so not in their economic interest to walk away.. also you hopefully there is plenty of redundancy
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<pengo>
dunno how it would deal with a Sybil attack -- one person taking over all your redundant data storage by storing it many times, and then deleting all copies at once
<jfmherokiller[m]>
well as long as you keep the orginal they cant delete it
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<jfmherokiller[m]>
also on another topic anyone know of an ipfs hosted alternative to this? https://asciinema.org/
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<jfmherokiller[m]>
every once in a while when i record a long session it wont upload to the site
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<deltab>
aww: "This script is run *after* you upload to asciinema.org. We hope to be able to avoid the hassle of relying on specific network hosts (because sometimes the internet is slow, or not there...). But for now some necessary post-processing is done server-side."
<jfmherokiller[m]>
dang i was hoping i could set it up as a like a single page webapp where you could specify the thing like /ipfs/<webapp hash here># <asciinema json hash here>
<Killin>
Hi people! Tell me whether IPFS has a desktop client?
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<clemo>
thanks for making tcp over ipfs possible! works awesome, is their a way to not remove the binding after it was used? can i limit the listener be only avalible for certain peers?
<sickill>
jfmherokiller[m]: deltab: hey! asciinema developer here. First, quickly about size limit: asciinema.org is a community asciinema-server instance which I run and while servers are sponsored by Brightbox, the S3 storage is covered from my own pocket. So this artificial limit is a trade-off to keep the bill at bay (I address this in more depth in this thread: https://github.com/asciinema/asciinema/issues/91). Second, the
<sickill>
note about "server-side post-processing" is no longer true, the web player can directly play asciicasts for a while now. So I just quickly hacked this: https://github.com/asciinema/publish-to-ipfs - it takes local asciicast, and publishes directory containing all necessary files (index.html, asciinema-player, and the actual recording). Let me know what you think (and I'd happily take this script further if you have more
<sickill>
ideas) ;)
<pengo>
not op, but nice response!
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<whyrusleeping>
sickill: o/
<sickill>
whyrusleeping: \o
<whyrusleeping>
hows asciinema going?
<sickill>
nicely :) just preparing 2.0 release, which has lots of cools things
<whyrusleeping>
ooOoo, got a changelog i can read up on?
<sickill>
whyrusleeping: hmm, let me update the changelog now, this is something I planned to do soon, hold on!
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<Kristjan>
My name is Kristjan Robam. Bank account nr: EE671010010225901016 (SEB Estonia). I am in urgent need for money. People, please send me money with min sum of 5000 $. Thank you in advance.
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<tadzik>
lol
<Stskeeps>
man, people are really taking shortcuts on ICOs these days
<cjd[m]>
oh man, I really want to give 4999 $ to this random guy I just met on the internet but he told me that the minimum sum must be 5000 $ so I can't do it :(
<sickill>
that's a bummer
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<r0kk3rz>
Stskeeps: why go through the whole charade?
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<tadzik>
the success rate must be non-zero :(
<r0kk3rz>
why? the cost of spamming freenode is fairly minimal i would've thought
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<cjd[m]>
Maybe it's spamming with someone's dox in order to get them signed up to gas, electric, internet, tv, etc... anything that auto-bills the iban number
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<jfmherokiller[m]>
sickill: The size issue i had was mainly because i tried to upload the entire compilation of pypy eg translation to pypy-c to asciinema. Also to take the script further i suggest adding the ability to host the webapp itself standalone and refrence a recording by its ipfs hash something like this is what i had in mind https://ipfs.io/ipfs/<player hash here>#<recording hash here>
<sickill>
jfmherokiller[m]: I like this idea
<Steverman>
Can websocket-star server relay be seen like a WebRTC TURN server?
<Steverman>
Oh.. it is one I guess
<Steverman>
just without webrtc of course
<jfmherokiller[m]>
sickill: i make use of that exact setup with my ipfs hosted kthoom comic book reader the only issue i had with the setup was mainly that i could never figure out how to make a jump to page permalink
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<jfmherokiller[m]>
also that reminds me i need to update it to work around the issue of the user not having an ipfs node running
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<pjz>
whyrusleeping: any idea about dht: loggableKey could not cast key: 2f706b2f122062ca38d55ebe4b9b699fb384f6d9944c0c66ab0cce7b50d6b448cd93215a556b invalid cid version number: 47 lookup.go:35 ?
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<lgierth>
pjz: it's probably a cidv0
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<pjz>
lgierth: so it's not an actual problem with the ipfs daemon?
<lgierth>
pjz: it should be fine - i think it's just trying to log it and fails to do that. we partially switched the dht to cids but didn't follow through completely
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<pjz>
hmm, okay. Any tips on what/how to collect crash/lockup info from ipfs? It bogged down my machine (load avg >5, usually 0.03ish) completely. restarting it every day seems.... suboptimal.
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<victorbjelkholm>
pjz: you're running the latest version and configured connection manager? Should help
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<pjz>
and I just put together a little ipfs-debug script based on that debug-guide that I can use to collect info it it gets hangy again.
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<musicmatze[m]>
I am constantly thinking about how a social network on ipfs would be named. So far I have "IPFN" for "InterPlanetary Friendship Network" ... but that name is taken by the "InterPlanetary Functions" project... and "IPSN" for "Interplanetary Social Network" ... which is shit.
<musicmatze[m]>
If someone has a good idea, freel free to tell me
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<lgierth>
actually, go with a proper name that doesn't start in IP ;)
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<lgierth>
every new project giving itself the next nearly-the-same blurs the clarity of the others' names
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<lgierth>
there's already IP* projects that have nothing to do with IPFS
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<musicmatze[m]>
yeah... doesn't make it easier tho :-P
<lgierth>
there i s IPFN?!
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<musicmatze[m]>
yes: github.com/ipfn
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<musicmatze[m]>
"distrix" sounds nice...
<musicmatze[m]>
and is easy
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<musicmatze[m]>
and kinda tells you what it is about
<musicmatze[m]>
and ends with "x" ... which is a bonus
<musicmatze[m]>
what do you people think?
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<musicmatze[m]>
hm... there's a corporation named distrix...
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<musicmatze[m]>
propably not a good idea then
<lgierth>
it's pronouncable too
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<Alpha64>
xtremesocialnetworkonline
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<musicmatze[m]>
baaaaah naming things.... I hate it
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<lgierth>
new network-ish sites in .de often used to get 24 appended to their name
<lgierth>
social24.de
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<lgierth>
because, you know, it's open 24h/day
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<musicmatze[m]>
lol
<musicmatze[m]>
like freundschaft24.de
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<miflow[m]>
Or just put a d in front, like dtube dsound dmania dsocialize ,😂
<lgierth>
heh yeah
<lgierth>
that's rooted in dweb i guess :)
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<jfmherokiller[m]>
anyone here have expirence with emscripten?
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<jfmherokiller[m]>
im rn trying to see if i can compile openssl with it
<johnlong[m]>
whats the status on getting blockchains uploaded into IPFS? I know theres been some work translating Ethereum blocks into IPLD structures.. would be great to run an Ethereum node that uses IPFS as its backend :)
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<pengo>
what's the [m] suffix about?
<lgierth>
pengo: matrix.org <-> bridge
<lgierth>
*irc bridge
<pengo>
oic
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