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<appa_>
So, it might be me, but all of a sudden, when using ipfsapi for python, the add_pyobj() returns some error about list indicies must be integers
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<miflow[m]>
why do we have to wrap files in a dir to preserve names?
<lgierth>
otherwise there is nothing where we can put the name
<lgierth>
filenames aren't part of the file
<lgierth>
their part of whatever is linking to the file
<lgierth>
*they're
<enick_239>
Fffd
<miflow[m]>
i see the advantages now, but makes manipulating named files a little more difficult for me 🤔
<r0kk3rz>
miflow[m]: if the name was included in the file part, it would alter the hash even though it potentially matches another file with only different filename
<miflow[m]>
yeah, naming doesnt relate to content/-addressing.
<r0kk3rz>
yeah it kinda ruins the whole content addressing thing
<miflow[m]>
it could be nice to store names with consensus in like orbit db or so
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<voker57>
I made a patch to go-ipfs for conveniently linking to files with filename like QmFoobar?filename=music.mp3
<miflow[m]>
nice
<miflow[m]>
i thought about naming consensus via crdt
<miflow[m]>
like pinnable immutable naming graphs on ipfs updated via crdt
<miflow[m]>
just some ideas
<Alpha64>
names are a bad idea
<Alpha64>
the name of a file in your computer is not foo.txt but the full path
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<voker57>
so?
<r0kk3rz>
they are human readable though, unlike CIDs
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<miflow[m]>
i just thought of an approach for human readable names, ontop of ipfs (not in ipfs), because 40 char hashes wont help with top level adoption
<Alpha64>
well it'd be very easy to get a clash
<Alpha64>
how does your approach work?
<miflow[m]>
not with consensus via a naming graph
<miflow[m]>
its just an idea im throwing out here
<miflow[m]>
cause i ran into naming problems 😅
<voker57>
bittorrent does not appear to have top level adoption problem despite datahashes being non-human readable
<miflow[m]>
never saw bittorrent running in a webpage
<r0kk3rz>
sure, if you want your decentralised p2p thing to rely upon a centralised 'tracker' to be usable :)
<voker57>
miflow[m]: what user situation exactly are you trying to solve?
<miflow[m]>
just human readable addressing
<voker57>
that's not situation, that's abstract concept
<voker57>
is there a problem with sharing link like "ipfs:/Qmasdascba123223raba"?
<r0kk3rz>
yes, i have no idea what that is without opening it
<r0kk3rz>
like all random url shorteners
<voker57>
eh, you have no idea when opening any kind of link, unless you trust url contents
<voker57>
if you want to give a hint you can use /ipfs/QmFoobar?filename=music.mp3 like I mentioned above
<voker57>
if you mean like "http://imgur.com/Ymg.jpg likely contains an image" then closest thing in IPFS would be some widely-known IPNS entry hosting images like "/ipns/QmFoobar/image.jpeg"
<r0kk3rz>
and that its coming from imgur
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<lgierth>
voker57: do ipfs://QmFoo or dweb:/ipfs/QmFoo (number of slashes matters)
<lgierth>
i'm working on a spec document for these addresses but it'll take another 2 or 3 weeks
<miflow[m]>
so nevermind, if/when i have my ideas formulated more precise ill let you know if you want
<r0kk3rz>
miflow[m]: you've seen the IPRS spec?
<miflow[m]>
yes
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<Kythyria[m]>
Bittorrent supports websocket now?
<cblgh>
lgierth: +100 for ipfs://Qm1337
<Kythyria[m]>
Oh, it's an incompatible extension
<Kythyria[m]>
> It's true that the BitTorrent protocol is dated in some ways. For example, it uses it's own strange data encoding called "bencoding". If it were invented today, it would probably just use JSON or MessagePack.
<Kythyria[m]>
Unfortunately yes. I can see people blindly using plain JSON.
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<pjz>
compressed json isn't that bad an encoding, really.
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<Kythyria[m]>
For binary data?
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<Icefoz_>
It's not bad but not great.
<Icefoz_>
I'm looking forward to CBOR or something becoming more widespread.
<Icefoz_>
On some level it doesn't matter what, there's several quite good binary encodings.
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<h[m]1>
CBOR is far less ambiguous, that's useful
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<zeb>
When I try to use the `ipfs name publish` command, I get this error from the daemon: https://pastebin.com/iUs0B5zQ ... The command does successfully complete, but it takes a while and I keep getting these errors whenever I do it. I'm using Arch Linux.
<lgierth>
zeb: neat, that's a bug
<lgierth>
could you file and issue in github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs?
<lgierth>
i pasted your log in the issue - it's useful because we extended the log message for someone to eventually encounter it with the wonky key included
<lgierth>
zeb: stebalien says it's no biggie (in the issue)
<lgierth>
ah, "This should be demoted to a warning in the next release. (0.4.12)"
<zeb>
Okay then.
<lgierth>
thanks :)
<zeb>
I have another issue as well: whenever I try to view something I've uploaded via either https://gateway.ipfs.io or localhost:8080, it takes a really long time to load.
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<zeb>
The webui at localhost:5001 loads very quickly, though.
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<lgierth>
you don't upload in ipfs - you add something to your own ipfs node, and it makes it available to the network
<lgierth>
oh, but it even takes a long time to load on localhost:8080?
<lgierth>
that's odd
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<zeb>
Ah, this is interesting: I've been trying to visit my website using the ipns name I assigned to it. Using the direct ipfs link works instantly on localhost:8080, though it does take a little while after to finish loading, since I'm using CSS & JS files that are linked using ipns links.
<zeb>
So do ipns links not work faster from localhost:8080 than from a non-local gateway like gateway.ipfs.io?
<zeb>
Is that supposed to work like that?
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<lgierth>
zeb_: ah, you're talking about querying ipns
<lgierth>
ipns should have gotten a bit better in go-ipfs 0.4.13
<zeb_>
That's the version I'm using.
<voker57>
gateway is probably more well-connected than your node, hence speed increase
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<zeb_>
I said that localhost:8080 was faster than gateway.ipfs.io for ipfs links, though ipns links seemed to be just as slow on either.
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<zeb_>
Is there any way to make an ipns link faster?
<zeb_>
e.g. by having more nodes storing the content of your website?
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<zeb_>
I tried going to /ipns/ipfs.io/ and it loaded fairly quick, so I guess it is the fact that I only have my website on one node that causes it to be slow to load from an IPNS link.
<zeb_>
It could also be because the one node is my laptop, not a powerful server or anything like that.
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<JZA>
hi I want to know if the ipfs network is failing
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<Icefoz_>
JZA: Seems to work fine for me, why do you ask?
<JZA>
ah was trying d.tube, but it seems is an issue on their end.
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<deltab>
zeb_: there could be a newer version published elsewhere, so it still has to check