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<hramrach>
vector80 did you try upstart?
<hramrach>
debian comes with sysvinit which is as fast as a racing snail
<hramrach>
Super-noob just copy all the lines starting with deb and change them to deb-src
<hramrach>
Seppoz: script.bin
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<n01>
mripard: ping
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<jelly-home>
Super-noob: did you forget to do an aptitude update or apt-get update after adding relevant deb-src lines?
<mripard>
n01: pong
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<n01>
mripard: hi. I have irqchip, mfd and power button input driver ready. Do you think is it better to submit it even though not every subsystem of axp is ready yet?
<hramrach>
if it could power offf as well it would be awesome. But for that driver for the regulator part is required I guess
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<n01>
hramrach: I agree. It was just because for example hans was interested in working on something on axp and in this way at least we could have a common mfd driver
<n01>
but I think we can work together even without mainlining for the moment
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: i actually (would) use both; homeserver for certain things, vps for other tasks :)
<ZetaNeta>
oliv3r, Hi oliver
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: hi!
<oliv3r>
libv: thanks for defending my superboarddesigner status with V80
<ZetaNeta>
I dont treat that as a home server
<ZetaNeta>
oliv3r, Its me who been defending it!
<oliv3r>
netiher do I; i have 2
<oliv3r>
th hp n36l is my internet facing server, which runs gentoo hardened
<oliv3r>
uses much less electricity then your Pentium-D
<ZetaNeta>
I have 3
<oliv3r>
and my hobby server/internal server with gentoo x86_64 on a phenom II x4
<oliv3r>
both have only 8Gigs fo ram though :(
<ZetaNeta>
If i will power all servers i got same time, they would dry the earth life resources in a week
<oliv3r>
that's not very green is it
<oliv3r>
have you found a camera yet?
<ZetaNeta>
"I am not paying for electricity in this house"
<ZetaNeta>
I am not paying for computers... most of the time
<ZetaNeta>
I am not paying for internet
<oliv3r>
you live in your momma's basement?
<ZetaNeta>
"SHOULD I CARE ABOUT BEING GREEN?"
<ZetaNeta>
no
<oliv3r>
even so; just because you don't pay for it, doesn't mean you shouldn't be green!
<mnemoc>
a proud leech
<oliv3r>
yes you should!
<ZetaNeta>
mnemoc, rolf
<oliv3r>
you are ruining my planet!
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: he doesn't care about you either
<oliv3r>
libv: inet_86vz needs pics
<ZetaNeta>
oliv3r, Do you live in england?
<oliv3r>
then i will no longer help him.
<oliv3r>
NL
<mnemoc>
my 12yo daughter wants to go to study to england, so you are ruining my daughter's future!
<ZetaNeta>
oliv3r, You camera isnt good enough. I need something "REAL HD"
<mnemoc>
damn, she is almost 13 already :<
<ZetaNeta>
Its just the thing that if in england, you can live alittle without electricity/water, and get a new house for the saved money
<ZetaNeta>
In france, energy is cheap as dirt, as they got much more nuclear power
<ZetaNeta>
In russia.... In russia you can find a coin on the ground, and dat shall be enough to pay for few months foward
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: so get a better image sensor
<hramrach>
unless the coin was Russian
<ZetaNeta>
oliv3r, I TRIED ALL
<oliv3r>
digikey sells sensors upto 4k for 20 Euro's
<ZetaNeta>
hramrach, Good joke, but not true
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: wow; england, noble goal; you should move to england!
<mnemoc>
yes :\
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: the price of energy doesn't make things right ya know, in china they all burn coals.
<ZetaNeta>
oliv3r, Its expensive not because its rare or people are going green.
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: how will go you hike, if all you can walk about is sand and smog
<ZetaNeta>
Its because of monopoly in england bout that
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: wheren't you from italy?
<ZetaNeta>
oliv3r, No, russia. Currently living in france.
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: i suppose you have a few years still? But relocating to england to be 'near' sounds like a great thing
<ZetaNeta>
France is stable about nuclear and wind power
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: after improving my embedded linux CV
<ZetaNeta>
oliv3r, Where did you find the 4k sensors?
<ZetaNeta>
WHERE?
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<ZetaNeta>
btw, this new year i started moving my main server from gentoo hardened to freebsd
<hramrach>
capabilities give you some security. PoSIX does not
<hramrach>
eg. how do you run a program on a PoSIX system so that it cannot possibly infect the rest of your system with malware, how do you grant it access to a file, device, w/e, and how do you then revoke the access?
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: i'll check the mailman thing later today/tomorrow
<oliv3r>
well nto mailman; smtp auth etc
<oliv3r>
i've been alzy :p
<oliv3r>
montjoie[home]: wingrime added it under 'to be done' not realizing crypto == SS
<hramrach>
eg. you know through how many hoops the PoSIX jumps to prevent the user who logs on the console after you spying on you
<montjoie[home]>
oliv3r the two need to be merged
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<hramrach>
because there is no clean way to revoke access on PoSIX
<oliv3r>
montjoie[home]: the one needs to be removed :p
<montjoie[home]>
with that everyone could understand
<oliv3r>
montjoie[home]: may i steal your real name?
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<montjoie[home]>
Corentin LABBE
<hramrach>
ZetaNeta: the only way FreeBSD is more secure than gentoo is that it's more obscure system and hence attacking it gives less momentum and hence is less likely to happen. Similarily that makes Linux more secure than Windows.
<Super-noob>
thx, and yes, actually it might have really just been the update :P, but i still get this error :/
<ZetaNeta>
hramrach, After i visited #freebsd, i realized that
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<oliv3r>
montjoie[home]: checksumming isn't limitted to md5?
<montjoie[home]>
SS support SHA1
<montjoie[home]>
and DES 3DES
<ZetaNeta>
hramrach, For me, cracking linux is easier than windows... because i dont remember how windows works
<oliv3r>
montjoie[home]: i'll add thjat
<Super-noob>
apt-get build-dep linux latest , it tells me it can´t find packages for latest but i don´t actually can google linux latest
<Super-noob>
i build the build-dep for linux
<hramrach>
ZetaNeta: most crackers only use tools written by somebody else. You don't have to know how it works. Just watch for tools that exploit vulnerabilities. There are always enough unpatched systems out there. And unless you are after a particular system just trying random tools on random machines eventually gets you somewhere
<ZetaNeta>
hramrach, You are calling me a scriptkiddie. This is offending.
<oliv3r>
sunxi talk and f-droid/replicant talk no longer conflict!
<oliv3r>
paulk-collins: ^
<hramrach>
ZetaNeta: no, I am saying that if you are bothered by the inner workings then you are not replicating how a likely attack would be launched.
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<oliv3r>
sunday! time for sc2
<n01>
mripard: I cannot boot latest kernel on sunxi-next
<n01>
panic when mounting rootfs
<libv>
oliv3r: i want it to go as far as you being forced to present at FOSDEM in tights and a cape :p
<libv>
oliv3r: ah, cool, you agree with my view on translations!
<libv>
oliv3r, mnemoc: when can we start removing {{Languages}}?
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<mnemoc>
libv: modify it to track pages with translations to be removed
<n01>
mripard: nvm, my fault
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<hramrach>
mnemoc: use emdebian :)
<hramrach>
also they might have moved to another ubuntu release or the ppa might be rebuilding just now
<libv>
oliv3r: pics for the inet_68vz have been taken, they just haven't been edited yet
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<libv>
oliv3r: i haven't even tried to boot uboot on it, first need to continue testing an a20 change
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<paulk-collins>
oliv3r, yay!
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<libv>
great.
<libv>
in the middle of his micro-sd card shortage, some big fat belgian idiot put the back on a device without taking off the micro-sd card, and then got it crushed.
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* libv
raids his garmin for the micro-sd in there.
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<oliv3r>
:(
<oliv3r>
i've raided quite some microsd cards from old nokia's
<oliv3r>
512mib and 2Gib
<oliv3r>
perfect for this
<libv>
i ordered some more, but they will only arrive on wednesday
<libv>
prices have gone up slightly apparently
<oliv3r>
i got a 32 GiB 'team' from newegg
<oliv3r>
that 'works' but not reliably
<oliv3r>
transfering big files makes it crash
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<oliv3r>
i've read bunnies mmc REing efforts, and how certain versions of android ship with firmware upgrades, but I doubt one will be available for this one :(
<oliv3r>
and can't warranty
<libv>
would it pay to have an Identification section in each device page?
<libv>
where some android "about device" info is posted?
<oliv3r>
not sure
<libv>
typing up something in the Inet_k70hc page now
<oliv3r>
it could tell us the SDK used and the compiled by
<oliv3r>
giving an estimate how related devices are
<oliv3r>
AARGHH there goes my sunday
<oliv3r>
PUNEET B
<libv>
hehe :)
<oliv3r>
this mail is almost inteligable
<libv>
oliv3r: change into your dark cape and tights
<oliv3r>
luckly, he's in bed witha areta on that one
<parabyte>
are they being replaced cause of bad gpio
<parabyte>
human error?
<libv>
parabyte: i have killed my phys in my time
<libv>
parabyte: several 3com cards, several x86 motherboards
<parabyte>
:O
<libv>
even a cisco switch got blown out when lightning struck 10m away from an ethernet cable
<Nyuutwo>
is there any better way of making rootfs than openembedded?
<hramrach>
??
<hramrach>
I just use debootstrap
<parabyte>
libv, im not really an electronics expert at all, most i done is build a few amplifiers none of this small ic stuff
<parabyte>
what exactly is that suction gun heat thing that is used on the ic?
<n01>
Nyuutwo: buildroot
<oliv3r>
libv: thing is, it didn't help :p i think the phy's are fine, it may be due to a bad PSU or something, i'm not sure, but my cb1 still has no lan
<oliv3r>
parabyte: I used a regular paint stripper as heatgun; but there's proper soldering heat guns
<oliv3r>
to place/remove the IC, i used an IC succer
<oliv3r>
which is visible int he pic :)
<oliv3r>
mmmm cheese
<libv>
parabyte: youtube has some pretty nice videos
<libv>
the ic succer is apparently not useful
<libv>
because you need to press buttons _on_ it
<oliv3r>
it helps me a lot with placing, but even much more, with lifting from
<libv>
therefor moving the thing
<parabyte>
i will check it out, just never really thought about playing around with small ic's at home before. very interesting stuff
<oliv3r>
but there's even vacuum pumps for it; you can use a foot pedal to control it
<parabyte>
so i could in essence replace a a13 with a a20
<parabyte>
i heard they got same wiring
<oliv3r>
anyway, i use it to remove stuff
<libv>
:)
<oliv3r>
parabyte: no, a10 with a20 possibly, but reattaching an a20 properly, hard
<oliv3r>
but that youtube; is interesting way to solder bga
<oliv3r>
i've seen an even better ps3 repair vid
<oliv3r>
but bga soldering, is hard :)
<oliv3r>
mostly due to alignment
<Nyuutwo>
oliv3r: balls are harder
<oliv3r>
much harder
<Nyuutwo>
you have surface tension which helps
<oliv3r>
mine are ultra hard; goes with the tights and the cape
<hramrach>
oliv3r: any plan to write a book about icp for dummies? And ship with a set of those pomona clips and some sort of programmer or bus pirate or w/e would work for getting the data out of and into those chips
<parabyte>
i got a dead arm board im off to murder it some more! aka remove its ic's !
<parabyte>
take care everyone be back another time!
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<oliv3r>
hramrach: i'm no EE, not even close :p[
<oliv3r>
hramrach: ICP being the Interconnnect Programming or smoething
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<Super-noob>
hmm how can i install headers ?
<Super-noob>
E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.4.43-r2-s-rm3
<Super-noob>
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.4.43-r2-s-rm3'
<Super-noob>
happens when i try to: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
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<libv>
if anyone mails or msgs out of the blue that they are there to help if only they get a bit of guidance, then they really just are shouting "help! someone handhold me please!"
<libv>
give them a nicely written howto, one that does everything but which requires a bit of reading and a bit of work, and they shit their pants
<oliv3r>
LOL
<oliv3r>
ain't it so
<Super-noob>
but it´s tricky when you can´t make up what´s actually the reason
<Super-noob>
i am a noob, literally, i want to install a driver but it seems to fail on line 490 or something
<Super-noob>
i have no clue what line 490 be
<Super-noob>
for ppl with a great systematic understanding it´s propably easy, for someone getting his feet wet in linux it´s too much
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<hramrach>
Super-noob: there are no linux headers. Just get the kernel source and rebuild it. What driver are you installing btw? It's probably not going to work, anyway
<ZetaNeta>
there is a probability that "autarkis" will come here from #freebsd, to ask people about my mental condition
<ZetaNeta>
answer nothing
<hramrach>
we will hack your psychician's pc and hand him the docs :)
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<libv>
seems calvino.freenode.net died
<bfree>
libv: 90 minutes ago was a freenode notice "yet another bunch of idiots has decided to DOS us"
<libv>
:(
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<bfree>
http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/niall/debian.preview/incoming/ updated and "working" on cubie[12] anyway. You can use the python-sunxi-0.0.tar.xz (depends on python-fll) to bootstrap up a debian sid system with it, which just needs "sunxi-update $board; sunxi-boot $device" to prepare it to boot from $device on $board (e.g. /dev/mmcblk0 on Cubieboard) or to later switch it to another board.
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<libv>
crap.
<libv>
on the inet_86vz, the uart pads are the ones from the sdc
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