<Turl>
wens: the magical [2] maybe, and the >80 char line :)
<Turl>
wens: also you may want to drop the "no reparent" flag somewhere there, I think the muxes autoreparent if convenient
<Turl>
(or maybe you're relying on that?)
<Turl>
(drop in, ie add)
<wens>
I'm using the autoreparent thing, instead of adding 3 clocks to the dt to get the parents
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<Turl>
wens: fair enough :)
<Turl>
add a small comment saying so if you don't have one already on the stmmac/glue code (I haven't looked at it yet)
<wens>
I think I'll drop the CLK_SET_PARENT_GATE flag, as it won't protect against other users enabling/disabling the clock
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<Turl>
good night
<JohnDoe_71Rus>
Turl: morning :)
<Turl>
:)
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<oliv3r>
lo
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<wens>
hi
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<ccaione>
mripard_: ping
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<mripard_>
ccaione: pong
<ccaione>
mripard_: nvm :) actually the info on A31 were in the email by aw guys
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<mripard_>
oh, ok :)
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<juanfont>
what module should i load in order to get gmac ethernet working?
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<wens>
3.4? mainline?
<oliv3r>
i'm debating if i want to buy a mele m3 or m5 sometime this year
<oliv3r>
m3 has emmc appearnatly, vga out
<oliv3r>
m5 doesn't have vga out but does have nand
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<wens>
oh gee it's Friday, which means 3.14 could be out in a few hours?
<mripard_>
wens: 3.13 :)
<libv>
fosdem is going to rock this year
<libv>
506 talks are currently accepted
<libv>
almost everything will be streamed live...
<juanfont>
wens, 3.4
<oliv3r>
506 talks? wow
<juanfont>
modprobe sunxi_gmac
<juanfont>
ERROR: could not insert 'sunxi_gmac': Invalid argument
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<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: now that's a concidence, was just reading your patch + its comments
<wens>
mripard_: ah right, got so caught up with 3.14 stuff
<oliv3r>
3.15 should be a very interesting release
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<wens>
anything we post now will end up in 3.15, right?
<mripard_>
yes
<wens>
seems like net-next waits till the last day to close
<bbrezillon_>
oliv3r: haven't followed the IRC chan, what is a coincidence
<bbrezillon_>
?
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<wens>
I can post the stmmac driver core patches, but I don't think I'll get an Ack in time
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<wens>
and there's an interesting discussion going on on LAKML about wifi/bt in the DT
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<mouchon2>
hi
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<mouchon2>
i havea kernel dev newbi question what's the difference between platform_device_register_full and platform_device_register
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<juanfont>
i've compiled the 3.4 kernel, with the default config, trying to make gigabit ethernet work in a dev board. the dmesg tells me that "gmac driver is disabled". any idea?
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: that you joined as I was reading your patches :)
<oliv3r>
juanfont: check your script.bin?
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<oliv3r>
arete74: Allwinner Ax SoC's then ; and int he description add something to clarify that A10 could also be Boxchip F20' if i'm not mistaken anyway
<rm>
"Ax" is so confusing
<rm>
why not "A-series"
<rm>
or "Axx"
<libv>
rm: because next week it will be different again
<rm>
there is no A2 or A1, right
<libv>
we just had it with sun8wblahpblah
<libv>
and this is likely to happen again in future
<libv>
it really doesn't pay to have these discussions, just pick something and stick to it
<oliv3r>
I always say A-series when i talk about them
<libv>
for VIA hw, i ended up using vt<pci-id> to identify igp graphics
<libv>
as every year or so, via had a change of mind
<oliv3r>
well this would be the textual string to identify it to users
<oliv3r>
hehe
<oliv3r>
whatever is hot tomorrow, right
<oliv3r>
so; work thorugh 350 more emails, or work on alip for fosdem
<oliv3r>
desicions desicions
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<mripard_>
oliv3r: aah, didn't thought of A-series
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<oliv3r>
mripard_: it kinda clashes with F20, as that's kinda an early A10 or something; but I think we had this on our wiki once
<oliv3r>
mripard_: F-series for budget/e-readers; A-series for their performance stuff
<oliv3r>
nikrou: if you really want to put the time and effort into making a generic android thing for A10; look at the replicant project; they are starting/working on replicant for A10 devices; paulk-collins (who also idles here) was starting it
<nikrou>
I want to try to have android 4.3 for my device
<nikrou>
even if I need to customize things for my device only
<oliv3r>
arete74: SoC's probably, as it's more then one :)
<oliv3r>
nikrou: well replicant is cyanogenmod, without blobs; for a10 devices you don't really need blobs, well you may need mali + touchscreen driver
<arete74>
php warning on wiki when i log in apc_store(): Potential cache slam averted for key 'sunxi-mw.user.id
<nikrou>
Yes replicant is a more free release ! :-)
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: ^
<oliv3r>
nikrou: and you can always add those files later; like a proprietary 'hwpack'
<oliv3r>
until lima is ready
<nikrou>
ok
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<bbrezillon>
hno,rz2k, slapin, or others: did someone test my NAND driver. I haven't found the origin of my bit flip bug (writing on the 5 first pages of a given block leads to a lot of bit flips on the 1st page on the same block)
<libv>
nikrou: that nand patch should hit our kernel tree soon
<bbrezillon>
I thought about write sequence (pages in a block should always be programmed in ascending page order), but I checked the requested page addresses and everything seems to be configured correctly
<libv>
nikrou: so at most add it to tips, tricks, caveats
<oliv3r>
libv: i'm reading the LVDS thread; is this the same signal that is used on monitors? (on the inside)?
<oliv3r>
e.g. controller board -> panel?
<libv>
oliv3r: yes/no
<libv>
oliv3r: all depends on the device, whether device is a laptop, a tablet or a monitor
<oliv3r>
there's T...something
<oliv3r>
libv: i'm talking plain ol' monitor now
<oliv3r>
i was thinking if it would be cool to connect an a10 device directly to a broken monitor, bypassing the controller board
<oliv3r>
(ignoring backlight controls etc
<libv>
but yes, lvds is used on many monitors as well
<libv>
either direct rgb, lvds or edp is common
<libv>
oliv3r: you will have to get a matching cable
<libv>
oliv3r: recently, you can buy them from china
<libv>
oliv3r: but that's only in the last few years
<libv>
otherwise you needed to contact specialized cable confectioners
<libv>
and i never did for my unichrome stuff, fearing the cost might be prohibitive
<oliv3r>
well i have the cable, as it connects from the lcd, to the controller board
<oliv3r>
and soldering it to a cubieboard header isn't a big deal either
<libv>
(it ended being cheaper to just buy 5y old laptops with the same chip and similar connection)
<oliv3r>
hehe
<libv>
oliv3r: check ebay/aliexpress
<oliv3r>
its just, i got a bunch of old 19" and 21" monitor lingering, some broken
<oliv3r>
one 24" i even tried to swap the broken memory chip out
<libv>
oliv3r: some chinese dude will have the cable to 2mm or 2.54mm header available
<oliv3r>
it worked, but it turned out the display was actually broken :)
<oliv3r>
this better be because of something I did
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<bbrezillon>
I eventually found where these bit flips come from: the H27UCG8T2ATR NAND chip defines a specific order for page programmation in a block (Chapter 6)
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: i read that allready; many problems with mlc flash
<oliv3r>
it's basically horrible crap, with ecc and stuff ontop to fix errors
<bbrezillon>
oliv3r: at least the driver should work with SLC falshes
<oliv3r>
:p
<bbrezillon>
(it works with MLC too, but linux FS are not ready to handle these kind of requirements)
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: isn't this information supplied by one of those ONILF levels?
<bbrezillon>
I don't know
<bbrezillon>
at least we know this is an MLC flash
<oliv3r>
yeah
<bbrezillon>
BTW the H27UCG8T2ATR does not support ONFI
<oliv3r>
heavy lifting head of you; I'll gladly cheer you own though
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: yeah, i read :)
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: but lets assume it would; does the ONFI have a flag/parameter that lists this special requirement as yo posted above
<oliv3r>
'specifc order for page progammation
<bbrezillon>
I'll check
<bbrezillon>
anyway, we can still specify these kind of requirements in DT
<oliv3r>
of course
<bbrezillon>
(because this is an HW description)
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<oliv3r>
it is
<oliv3r>
well all of ONFI is isn't it?
<oliv3r>
so one could always extend/improve that :)
<oliv3r>
i'm thinking OEM ease of use now
<oliv3r>
then again; the oem using some random flash chip, should be able to write the DT for this flash
<oliv3r>
i wonder who handles that now, allwinner hacking libnand, or the oem's
<bbrezillon>
yes ONFI parameters are discoverable, but we can use the same naming convention for non ONFI flashes that need these descriptions in DT
<bbrezillon>
when you're talking about libnand, you're talking about code sitting in drivers/block/nand_sunxi, right ?
<oliv3r>
yeah
<oliv3r>
aren't flash parameters hardcoded there?
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<bbrezillon>
a lot are harcoded, which makes me think, this drivers might be unusable with some boards which do not choose the same kind of NAND chips
<oliv3r>
libnand is a horrible pile of shit
<bbrezillon>
I'll try to find a way to support MLC flashes in linux (even if we loose half of the NAND chip space ;))
<oliv3r>
hence, a lot of people are excited of your work
<bbrezillon>
what's disturbing is the fact that all paired pages handling are subject to patents
<bbrezillon>
(see the ppt document I referenced earlier)
<bbrezillon>
(or at least were: this documents was written in 2008)
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<bbrezillon>
oliv3r: all of these MLC things should not be handled by the NAND controller driver, but the driver (or the mtd dev) should expose these constraints for the
<bbrezillon>
upper layers (FS or WL system) to handle it correctly
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: i think i read that ubi does support MLC; but it's not 'perfect' yet
<oliv3r>
big todo
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: but my technical knowledge is to short to judgeas to what/why
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: but looks like you took on a great job here ;)
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: but due express your conernc on the linux-mtd ML and see what they say?
<bbrezillon>
sure, I will
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<pacopad>
Hi Guys ,i'm using x11vncserver on my cb2 but some data are not transmitted , i got the impression that data written to /dev/disp are not transmitted to my vnc client
<pacopad>
is there a similar soft that could transmit the all screen ?
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<hramrach>
I found the error with my SD card
<hramrach>
when you tell sfdisk to start the first partition at first megabyte it makes it start at first sector /o\
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<Seppoz>
hi, im trying to set UART 6 and 7 on PI pins, can somebody check if the fex settings are correct as we cant receive any data: http://pastebin.com/2SXsxhAX
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<oliv3r>
hi
<Turl>
howdy oliv3r
<Seppoz>
hi oliv3r
<hramrach>
lo
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<Seppoz>
oliv3r did you use art 6+ before?
<Turl>
hramrach: lol
<hramrach>
my tablet refuses to boot when I have SD card with Linux in it
<hramrach>
I have no idea what it is doing since I have no uart
<oliv3r>
Seppoz: never; 1 is the most :)
<Seppoz>
crap
<oliv3r>
without uart; it's extremly hard to debug
<Seppoz>
seems like noone have lol
<hramrach>
but it does lock up so I guess it's trying to boot from the card
<oliv3r>
hramrach: most usual cause; bootloader ont he wrong spot
<oliv3r>
Seppoz: some ont he olimex forums have
<Turl>
Seppoz: what's the issue?
<hramrach>
that was first problem - would not boot at all because sfdisk cannot count in megabytes and I had no bootloader
<hramrach>
so booted from flash
<oliv3r>
well if it hangs, atleast the bootloader should work
<oliv3r>
since if it fails; it won't go there
<hramrach>
but u-boot-with-sps or what is it cannot have bootloader in wrong spot and still lock up
<Seppoz>
oliv3r: im using them on PI port
<Seppoz>
and last time i set it it function 4 board started burning so...
<Seppoz>
dont want to make tis mistake again
<hramrach>
ok, I guess I need a hi-res photo of the board
<oliv3r>
Seppoz: double check spi0 mux's so they don't clash
<hramrach>
and maybe those clips would help
<hramrach>
no need to search for UART if you can just put clips on the CPU, yay
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<oliv3r>
hehe yeah you could put clips on cpu
<oliv3r>
but make some pics so we can find uart
<oliv3r>
is it a13 chip
<hramrach>
yes, it is
<oliv3r>
did you try hansg's fedora image?
<hramrach>
no testpoints near cpu
<hramrach>
no. should it work with different meminfo output?
<oliv3r>
hramrach: should work fine
<oliv3r>
hramrach: pick the a13_mid
<hramrach>
it says I have 16bit ram and the a13 mid has 8bit
<oliv3r>
it's very likly to work
<oliv3r>
both are probably wrong
<oliv3r>
and it doesn't matter much we suspect
<oliv3r>
but you can alwyas pick one that's close
<oliv3r>
lowest setting should always work
<hramrach>
it may lower available ram but w/e
<oliv3r>
yeah but as longa s you can boot it; that's fine
<oliv3r>
then you can play witht he ram settings
<hramrach>
I can boot android ;-)
<oliv3r>
Seppoz: you are almo nito right?
<oliv3r>
hramrach: i ment if you can boot hansg's fedora; you can start tinkering more easily
<oliv3r>
Seppoz: your mux is off; uart7 is also on mux 3
<hramrach>
and you need 4 pin so you can get teh two superfluous pins on the other side
<hramrach>
hmmm, 20min to download
<oliv3r>
4 pins? well you need gnd
<oliv3r>
but don't see what the 4th pin would be for?
<doneill>
i'm disappointed. i went to the trouble of building a full Debian root for my a10 netbooks with drivers, standard dev tools/office/media/flash/browser whatever, people still just want android on there.
<hramrach>
because android comes with many shiny half-broken apps
<doneill>
rootfs*
<doneill>
i know but with a touchpad and keyboard and no touchscreen it's rubbish
<doneill>
also doing office work on it is pointless
<hramrach>
but still shiny ;-)
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<doneill>
yeah, debian looks nice too
<doneill>
maybe with e18 it'll up the ante. i shouldn't care, it costs the same to them and just makes work for me, but it's a labour of love. :)
<hramrach>
what are a10 netbooks for, anyway?
<hramrach>
what size is it? probably not very good keyboard, right?
<doneill>
it's not bad, i code on it without issues
<oliv3r>
doneill: should work reasonably well
<oliv3r>
make it dualboot
<hramrach>
dualboot means another media
<doneill>
i do, i have debian on 8/16/32g class 10 SD cards
<oliv3r>
but if they are doing OFFICE work; fuck android
<oliv3r>
you could install android on the NAND, and the 'work' enviroment on SD
<doneill>
well there's the issue: android = consumer, desktop linux = producer. my customers are apparently exclusively the former. :(
<hramrach>
actually rdesktop rules for office work
<hramrach>
and whatever you can run it one
<oliv3r>
but you said they do office work
<doneill>
but i don't care, i like my a10 debian netbook
<Wizzup>
whcone is that, doneill ?
<oliv3r>
doneill: heck yeah
<hramrach>
people are 90%+ consumer
<doneill>
on the nand, like he said fuck android :)
<Wizzup>
which one*
<oliv3r>
emplloyee's are producers
<doneill>
Wizzup: the H6
<doneill>
1GB ram model
<Wizzup>
Will googling for H6 be enough? :)
* Wizzup
tries
<doneill>
yep, there's a writeup on it by cnx software
<Wizzup>
ah
* Wizzup
uses arm chromebook
<hramrach>
even many producers can use android. From what I heard there are passable media apps for it
<hramrach>
Wizzup: is there any decent framebuffer driver in mainline or anywhere?
<doneill>
mehhhhh... i've tried, but my nexus4 works best as a tool.
<Wizzup>
There is fbturbo
<Wizzup>
previously known as sunxifb
<hramrach>
that's X
<Wizzup>
hdmi out is a no-go
<Wizzup>
everything else kind of works :)
<hramrach>
but on the kernel side?
<Wizzup>
well, yes, the framebuffer just works?
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<Wizzup>
I don't get the question I fear
<hramrach>
on chrome kernel dhmi works if you plug it in before power on
<Wizzup>
yes, chrome kernel
<Wizzup>
hm? well, no
<doneill>
that isn't oss yet?
<Wizzup>
you can't change the res and make it anything but clone
<Wizzup>
doneill: anyway.
<Wizzup>
battery life is about 12 hours
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<Wizzup>
with wifi and everything
<Wizzup>
but I wish it was allwinner :)
<doneill>
i was debating getting a chromebook but the price... for a toy.. i dunno.
<Wizzup>
it's a work machine for me
<doneill>
the h6 can pinch out ~5 hours with wifi on, backlight on low, fantasy pm
<hramrach>
you need special support from u-boot or is the kernel at least able to map the vram?
<Wizzup>
hramrach: I think it just works using the chrome kernel sources
<doneill>
Wizzup you have the samsung i assume?
<Wizzup>
Yes
<Wizzup>
not the hp one
<doneill>
still tempting
<doneill>
runs desktop linux passably?
<Wizzup>
I use awesome
<Wizzup>
And it works decent enougn
<Wizzup>
I purposely avoided any mali binary crap though
<Wizzup>
So no 3d for me
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<Wizzup>
and no video scaling in hw
<Wizzup>
but yeah :)
<doneill>
using lima?
<Wizzup>
None atm
<doneill>
or just software fb?
<doneill>
ahh.
<Wizzup>
(do not need 3d for work)
<doneill>
yeah, but even 2d transforms on the cpu bite into power a bit
<doneill>
but if you get 12 hours out of it who cares :)
<Wizzup>
it's better than on chromeos, even
<Wizzup>
:p
<doneill>
nice looking too, shiny.
<Wizzup>
the keyboard is a total brainfart though
<Wizzup>
caps lock aka "search key" is now my "super"
<Wizzup>
apart from that -- yay
<doneill>
good god it's a mac
<doneill>
yeah i see what you mean about the kb
<doneill>
are your nav keys mapped to F1-F12?
<doneill>
or... F10+power, i guess
<Wizzup>
F1-F10
<Wizzup>
yep
<hramrach>
Wizzup: AW does not have a chip powerful enough for half-decent notebook
<hramrach>
and mainline just works also or needs u-boot hacks?
<hramrach>
I guess I should try
<hramrach>
the wifi support on chrome kernel sucks
<hramrach>
it works .. half of the time
<doneill>
lies and slander!
<Wizzup>
It's more powerful than my netbook, mripard_ :P
<doneill>
an a31 netbook would be sweet. although one could grab a tablet and connect usb peripherals, i have some A20 tablets with full host usb, so they're probably out there.
<oliv3r>
doneill: and how will you get proper graphics on a31 netbook :)
<doneill>
(by peripherals i mean kb/mouse, but that's clumsy)
<oliv3r>
doneill: a31 = powervr; forget linux drivers
<doneill>
well that's one challenge of many
<cubear>
I told you already I don't care about the video hardware, I want the CPU power har har har
<ssvb>
doneill: what kind of applications and desktop environment are you running on your netbook?
<doneill>
lxde. seamonkey, libreoffice, gnash, vlc, synaptic, a couple other small apps i think
<doneill>
my personal h6 runs qt creator mostly
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<doneill>
i use it for hacking code a bunch.
<oliv3r>
vote with your wallet I say!
<ssvb>
doneill: ok, nice stuff there :)
<cubear>
well no sata = no interest
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<ssvb>
doneill: if you notice that 2d graphics is handled a bit slow for some use cases, then 'perf record' / 'perf top' might help to check if something is not hitting the neon code paths
<ssvb>
doneill: you mentioned the 2d transforms earlier
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<oliv3r>
i lost my linux-mojo
<oliv3r>
i need help :(
<oliv3r>
1 sdd; 3 partitions, sda1, sda2, sda3. on sda1 i have hansg's fedora rootfs; on sda2 the alip one, and on sda3 i did a deboostrap to ubuntu saucy
<oliv3r>
i did setup fstab in 2 and 3
<oliv3r>
i got the fedora kernel; and a stage/sunxi-3.4 kernel, both boot sda1 fine. sda1 was made with the intention of not having an initramfs
<oliv3r>
sda2 and 3 however don't boot. the kernel loads just fine, but that's it
<oliv3r>
root gets mounted
<oliv3r>
<6>EXT4-fs (sda2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
<oliv3r>
<6>VFS: Mounted root (ext4 filesystem) readonly on device 8:2.
<oliv3r>
so that's good
<oliv3r>
all 3 use systemd, with /usr/sbin/init being systemd, so init shoul be called properly, the only difference in booting is i change root=/dev/sda1 to whatever
<oliv3r>
any ideas? i'm fresh out
<oliv3r>
i'm guessing it's something related to initramfs; but the kernel should just boot /usr/bin/init, and not care if its ramfs or not
<doneill>
using uuids in fstab?
<oliv3r>
yep
<oliv3r>
the correct ones at that
<oliv3r>
but so is my fedora image
<oliv3r>
and still, it should do the first boot bits until it runs into mounting fstab
<oliv3r>
but there's no error, no nothing; it just stops booting
<WarheadsSE>
oliv3r: 3.5"? dude, those were expensive when I started with my tandy, dual 5.25 all the way.
<oliv3r>
WarheadsSE: i had a tape deck with my c64
<oliv3r>
WarheadsSE: btw, i did mean 5.25" obviously, major typo on my end :( XT's didn't even have 3.5"s afaik
<oliv3r>
WarheadsSE: so, get off the lawn!
<WarheadsSE>
lol
<WarheadsSE>
these young punks dont get it
<doneill>
i had a laser xt with a 3.5"
<doneill>
4mb hd too
<doneill>
yet i won't buy a phone with less than 2GB ram today :)
<oliv3r>
what phone do you have
<oliv3r>
will it run replicant? :p
<oliv3r>
my phone has 576 mb atm :p
<oliv3r>
so
<oliv3r>
nobody has any intimate linux knowledge that can fix this :(
<doneill>
still have the nexus 4, haven't worked up the excitement to spring for the 5.
<oliv3r>
doneill: my next phone will be galaxy note 2; should run replicant in a few months
<ssvb>
libv: right, I really should have a look at this dri2 buffers handling issue in fbturbo tomorrow
<oliv3r>
ssvb: yeah it'll be important :p
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<doneill>
samsungs have nice specs but they have a tendency to load junk on it. 'value add' my ass. sure, could load replicant on i suppose, i put cyanogenmod on an htc one v but it still sucked.
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<oliv3r>
doneill: you keep the default OS on it?
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<oliv3r>
i would never run stock rom; too much spying crap in it
<Turl>
anyone good reading schematics?
<Turl>
I want to know where is pin 1 of gpio2 on my olinuxino :)