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<hno> oliv3r, yes NAND boot uses the exact same boot header. u-boot SPL loads fine from NAND once you manage to get it there.
<hno> but not much point without NAND driver in u-boot SPL.
<hno> Regarding livesuit compatibility. Each of the may different NAND drivers we have are mutually exclusive and will wipe out the other. MTD, old Allwinner, new Allwinner. Simply beause they do not recognise the blocks as valid.
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<Gerwin_J> So strange that i can nothing found about allwinner on CES..
<Gerwin_J> i want have more information about a80
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<wens> andhe_: did you see my latest reply on bluetooth in the ML?
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<wens> I asked a co-worker to go by allwinner's booth at CES
<wens> it was closed yesterday
<libv> heh
<libv> rumour has it that it is pvr, some magazines videoblog talked about that
<mrnuke> either theyre busy designing the next awesome SoC, or they're busy fixing their damn bugs
<libv> yay, u-boot from nand on uart
<libv> mrnuke: they are preparing for yet another disastrous high end release because they used pvr again
<mrnuke> WTF is pvr?
<libv> powervr
<mrnuke> is that also full of blobs to get any sort of performance out of it?
<libv> heh, how on earth did hramrach get anything to boot with that howto he wrote
<libv> at no point does it try to read a kernel from anywhere
<libv> it's just not set up to do that
<libv> it tries to read a whole partition to try to do that
<libv> not some file that's there
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<libv> ah, sun4i vs sun5i
<hipboi> cortex-A17?
<hipboi> rk3288
<libv> that sounds off
<libv> especially since it is paired with A12s
<libv> some idiots got A7 wrong
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<hipboi> Mali-T76x gpu?
<hipboi> it's Chinese
<libv> that would really astound me
<libv> as i would have expect samsung to be the release partner for that
<libv> expected even
<hipboi> pvr inside A80
<hipboi> which model
<libv> hipboi: i don't care :p
<hipboi> libv, :)
<hipboi> rk3288 is cortex-a12
<hipboi> see the picture, http://pad.zol.com.cn/426/4268511.html
<libv> haha
<libv> they used a post-it for the 2
<wens> someone had bad handwriting, and the contractor got it wrong? lol
<hipboi> the website says at the beginning, the official report from rockchip is cortex-a17
<hipboi> but now changed to cortex-a12
<libv> so people at CES pointed their error out to them :)
<hipboi> :D
<libv> "please walk over to the ARM booth if you do not believe me"
<libv> 30 minutes later... "quick, get a post-it"
<wens> internal error huh?
<hipboi> look at this picture
<hipboi> the 2 was modified :)
<libv> ah.
<libv> here i am wondering why it u-boot won't see the nand
<libv> while i spend the best part of yesterday adding a new nand id string to the kernel
<libv> now if only this big fat belgian knew how to put two and two together.
<libv> "coming in 2014, we'll be the best"
<libv> shouldn't that read: "coming in 7014, we'll be the best"?
<hipboi> :p
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<Gerwin_J> PowerVR model unknown
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<libv> that's quick
<libv> io error on a file.
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<libv> overrunning fs boundaries... interesting
<libv> that does not promise much good for running linux off the nand
<Gerwin_J> high resolution photo of A80 information sign http://2e.zol-img.com.cn/product/127_/978/ceZsb9mJ9FJmA.jpg
<libv> right
<libv> pvr rogue...
<libv> allwinner is on its own with that one, as far as it concerns me
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<libv> wow, segfault writing and then unmounting
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<libv> this is really not too promising for it being intended to be a development board
<libv> yay, read script.bin, but apparently it lost uImage along the way
<libv> yay. kernel booted til rootfs
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<libv> hrm, usb-otg also seems broken on a13, or there is another wiring problem with another inet device
<libv> ah no, i was just using that.
<libv> ah.
* libv plugs in the cable
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<oliv3r> nice, cubietruck uses 0.005 Amps when its not charging, but 'off'
<oliv3r> libv: remember, abdroid kernels are in a single fs-less partition
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<oliv3r> so hamrach's howto probably assumes you use an android kernel + initramfs 'image'
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<ssvb> oliv3r: have you tried to do some measurements for sunxi-3.4?
<ssvb> oliv3r: I'm just curious if you can check/confirm the power consumption difference between idling on "ondemand" and "performance" governors
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<ssvb> oliv3r: please reply to the mailing list if you get some data
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<oliv3r> AC100 probably is the 'versatile audio codec processor' AC, audio codec, or allwinner codec
<oliv3r> and the audio codec processor may be so that the extra core inside the A80 can be in standby, yet still decode and play audio!
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<oliv3r> ssvb: i'm writing hansg's fedora image right now to an usb stick
<oliv3r> ssvb: i can tell you though that cubietruck uses < 0.001 amps when it's off and not charging though ;)
<ssvb> oliv3r: sorry for nagging you, I just want to know if my current draw results are bullshit or not :)
<oliv3r> ssvb: no nagging; only arrived at work an hour ago :p
<oliv3r> and backlog reading
<oliv3r> finding allwinner CES info
<oliv3r> all very important stuffs
<oliv3r> i'll start with hansg's image and his kernel; as that's probably a safe baseline
<ssvb> trying to do the power consumption measurements with cpuburn-a7 would be also very interesting
<oliv3r> yeah i'll try to download that
<oliv3r> i doubt though that with his 3.4 kernel i'll get working wifi :(
<oliv3r> so i'll see if i can get it transferd via lan
<oliv3r> ssvb: cpuburn-a7 is precompiled in your repo?
<ssvb> no, but if you have gcc, then it's very easy to compile
<oliv3r> i don't know if there's a compiler in his sd image
<oliv3r> and i'm @work
<oliv3r> but i'll see if i can crosscompile it on my home pc
<ssvb> it's something like "arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc -o cpuburn-a7 cpuburn-a7.S" with a crosscompiler
<oliv3r> aww cute kitty!
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<oliv3r> the kitty scared him!
<ccaione> oliv3r: they said powervr in a80
<oliv3r> ccaione: yeah :( I cried a little
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<andhe_> wens: you mention you fixed a pin muxing error in bt.... could you point out what you fixed so I can learn? I've stared at the docs and the dt alot lately but didn't spot any error, but I'm just trying to learn dt.
<wens> well, the driver core will use the "default" state pin mux for devices
<wens> you name it "default" with pinctrl-names in the DT
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<wens> if you have multiple pinctrl-N entries, you need multiple name entries to match
<wens> I didn't know this, so the external clock output pin was never muxed
<andhe_> ok, so if I understand you correctly, the fix was on the line:
<andhe_> pinctrl-names = "default", "default";
<wens> correct
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<andhe_> (don't have my/your old tree available at the moment)
<andhe_> thanks
<wens> I don't either :p
<andhe_> I still think dt contains a bit too much magic for me to really understand it.
<wens> you need the manual to match the pins
<wens> and interrupts
<andhe_> I've looked alot at the pins and how they are described in dt... I think I've atleast understood that part...
<andhe_> (compared your dt changes to the a20 user manual)
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<andhe_> took me a bit to understand "7 18" means PH18 ..... (I think your last patches didn't have the comments for that)
<andhe_> anyway, nice to hear you've found a way forward .... I guess I'll continue digging into how to get it working on 3.4, which might benefit someone....
<wens> bluetooth?
<wens> or wifi?
<andhe_> I guess bt
<wens> bt should be quite straight forward
<andhe_> I looked at a patch in the cubieboard/linux-sunxi tree that I think is needed for the rfkill bits in cubietruck for bt
<wens> i thought the bits were already in there?
<andhe_> (yesterday) then I fell asleep....
<wens> anyway i have to get my stmmac patches out first
<andhe_> wens: I don't know, don't trust anything I say... but sunxi-rfkill only seems to handle the case of (external?) sdio devices....
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<andhe_> I _guess_ that part is still needed in linux-sunxi 3.4 tree.... will try tonight.
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<andhe_> anyway, don't let me distract you too much from your mainlining effort. :)
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<oliv3r> oh wow, writing an SD card at 237kb/s is extremly slow :S
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<oliv3r> what's the difference between sunxi-next and sunxi-devel?
<oliv3r> next being what has been merged; devel what could be merged but it WiP?
<ccaione> mripard: given the latest email I think I'll refactor the driver to make it compatible with A31 also
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<andhe_> oliv3r: AIUI next is what's sitting in different maintainers repos and will go to torvalds when he opens the next merge window.... devel is wip/rebased branch with useful but not yet ready/clean stuff.
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<oliv3r> thought so ;) just wanted to know which branch had my latest patches ;)
<andhe_> not everyone seems to be so strict about their naming though, so I guess it's different from person to person....
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<oliv3r> it makees sense, naming wise, but i thought we'd only have 1 tree, maybe with 2 branches
<oliv3r> but it's fine this way i suppose
<oliv3r> we also have experimenta/sunxi-3.10 to spice it up
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<mnemoc> oliv3r: hi, when you have a minute, can you take a look into the soc-detect and script.bin stuff I made for 3.10? in wip/sunxi-3.10/* of my github? at least to decide the location of the files :\
<oliv3r> i will do it now
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<oliv3r> i'm waiting for the FEodra 19 image to get written to sd card so have a few
<oliv3r> mnemoc: location wise i dunno!
<mnemoc> and /script
<oliv3r> /script is the script parser?
<oliv3r> how far did the sunxi-3.4 merge go?
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<mnemoc> /script parses script.bin and it's going to spawn the missing devices or inject them into the device-tree
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<oliv3r> sweet
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<oliv3r> you took your old soc_detect code and then patched it later on right?
<oliv3r> debating if i should comment on the first patch; and see if it is fixed later or not
<mnemoc> final state please
<oliv3r> pff, then i need a squashed patch to review on! :p
<oliv3r> lets see if i can do that
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<mnemoc> diff against experimental-3.10 for now
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<oliv3r> you've updated experimental right? so the base is the same
<mnemoc> yes
<oliv3r> we have two experimental branches? wip/exp and exp?
<mnemoc> exp in the official repo
<mnemoc> and reference-3.10 there too
<oliv3r> yeah i noticed we have 2 3.10 experimental branches; i'll go with the newest one
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<mnemoc> oliv3r: it would be nice of we could give a "generic" 3.10 and "generic" dts to people with new devices and be able to do research with it
<mnemoc> oliv3r: not assuming that much
<oliv3r> yeah safe bet
<mnemoc> oliv3r: also comparing the detected soc with what's provided by DT and warning if they defer
<oliv3r> i would love to see this soc_detect work show up in /proc/cpuinfo, it doesn't do that right now does it
<mnemoc> differ*
<mnemoc> u32 system_rev allows it
<oliv3r> 1632 etc
<mnemoc> sadly that only allows the sunNi family
<mnemoc> but we can encode it decently
<mnemoc> CCXY
<mnemoc> CC=32
<mnemoc> X for the SoC
<mnemoc> Y for the rev
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<oliv3r> mnemoc: probably; but yeah that's where I imagine it would go
<mnemoc> and "agreeing" in CCX mapping to A??
<mnemoc> "A??"
<mnemoc> babelfish should probably also use soc-detect instead of trusting the mach-id from the bootloader, which is usually BS
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<mnemoc> as allwinner's kernel ignores the machine id provided and sets a CONFIG_CHIP_ID there
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<mnemoc> allwinner's bootloader doesn't pass the meminfo either, so babelfish should query the dramc
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<oliv3r> i think mainline kernel currently completly relies on the DT doesn' tit
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<oliv3r> the question then arises, is it the kernels responsibility to find mistakes int he dt
<oliv3r> for our 3.10 absolutly, as script.bin's tend to be bs often too
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<oliv3r> hmm, 3.3 kernel gives me all sorts of ata errors; i hope those are all fixed with later versions, otherwise either my disk is broken (quite likly) or the PHY is not right
<oliv3r> it usually points strongly toward a hardware problem (often a bad SATA cable or a bad or inadequate power supply).
<oliv3r> heh
<oliv3r> voltage is dropping significantly
<oliv3r> so maybe that's why
<oliv3r> 4.8V may be not enough; i assume the sata power mapped from USB port
<oliv3r> 0.4 amps and crash!
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<oliv3r> writing to the ssd, 0.62 amps @ 5.1V
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<mnemoc> oliv3r: I believe 3.10 should be smarter and rely the lesser possible on the DT and script.bin
<mnemoc> oliv3r: been eventually able to have a multi-sunxi kernel
<mnemoc> and use that as research tool to add proper mainline support for unknown boards/chips
<oliv3r> we also need some more unification i noticed, now we have compile time dependancies; single kernel is os nice
<oliv3r> but i agree
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<mnemoc> oliv3r: on 3.10 we also need to be able to just import new crap drivers from new SDKs for new SoCs, so and that probably means a driver providing glue symbols to be able to get started quickly
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<mnemoc> once there and running, refactoring, cleanup and mainlinization beging
<mnemoc> begins*
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<oliv3r> it's probably more parallel then that :p
<oliv3r> half the drivers are mainlined allready :p
<oliv3r> i expect that disp, audio will need the refactoring etc
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<rellla> how does fb0_framebuffer_num correlate with libvdpau_sunxi? is "2" sufficient for displaying video + osd?
<oliv3r> jemk: ^
<jemk> rellla: it should be irrelevant, at least I thought so. turbofb has some needs there, but vdpau allocates all memory from ve reserved area.
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<rellla> jemk: i'm asking, because someone is one the way to get VDR working with libvdpau_sunxi using https://github.com/pkendall64/libvdpau-sunxi/tree/bitmap.
<rellla> video is ok. using osd with output_surface isn't failing, but not displaying osd, using bitmap_surface for osd stops VDR itself. maybe some implementations are missing though.
<mnemoc> oliv3r: I was thinking in A23, A43, A70, A80, A90, ...
<mnemoc> oliv3r: but yes, backport them!
<oliv3r> mnemoc: hopefully, those will mostly use the same IP
<oliv3r> a80 will be spat uppon
<oliv3r> powervr, pfew!
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<jemk> rellla: i didn't check the bitmap surface things, i even stopped all osd related work at the moment, too little time
<rellla> jemk: i know. therfore pkendall's tree ;)
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<jemk> but all this osd stuff is very hacky, at least my part makes a lot of assumptions about things it shouldn't do
<sgo11> hi, I am new to cubieboard. I am trying to install ubuntu to my new cubietruck. by reading this link: http://docs.cubieboard.org/tutorials/a20-cubietruck_lubuntu_desktop_releases, I am very confused. it says "ct_lubuntu_desktop_12.10_20130909.img.gz and ct_lubuntu_desktop_12.10_card0_20130909.img.gz are built without sound modules. but ct_lubuntu_desktop_12.10_20130910.img.gz is ok". but where is ct_lubuntu_desktop_12.10_20130910.img.gz?
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<oliv3r> sgo11: did you try #cubieboard ?
<sgo11> oliv3r, I just asked there. thanks.
<hero100> sgoll:
<oliv3r> libv: does the sunxi 3.4 kernel support VGA output?
<sgo11> hero100, I bet you did not use tab key. :) thanks. but that download link is 404.
<hero100> oh I see
<sgo11> anyone use lubuntu in cubietruck here?
<libv> oliv3r: it does
<oliv3r> libv: just found that patch it said 'sunxi doesn't support mode = 4
<libv> i was using vga on disp on A10 just a few weeks
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<oliv3r> cool
<juanfont> hi. i'm using a wit m2 dev kit (a20 powered). after 10 minutes or so the display goes black. i've already added consoleblank=0 to uEnv.txt. any other idea?
<oliv3r> er, probably some standard term evn var to prevent that?
<libv> juanfont: smells like console blanking
<sgo11> hi, i am reading http://goo.gl/iWPFLK . I am not sure if this installation method will provide sound or not. in the end, it says "If we want to change to VGA output default, we need to modify the script.bin at the 1st partition". I never use arm board before. this sentence confuses me. do I have to choose VGA or HDMI? can't I use VGA and HDMI? I think if I connect vga, then vga should work. if I connect hdmi, hdmi will work. why should I choose one as de
<sgo11> fault? thanks.
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<sgo11> why should I choose one as default. thanks.
<libv> Turl: the phoenix board page has improved
<oliv3r> sgo11: i don't think our disp code does auto detection atm
<libv> Turl: but it still needs a little nudge, which i will go into next week if it hasn't improved fully
<libv> oliv3r: and even then...
<libv> oliv3r: no ddc on vga on existing hw
<oliv3r> yep; ontop fo that
<oliv3r> so sgo11 no, auto detect does not work/exist on sunxi
<juanfont> oliv3r, libv, the thing is that when it goes blank (both in X or in terminal) i have to reboot it to get it back (ssh still works)
<libv> kms driver does do load detection, but that might be unreliable if the hw doesn't have vga
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<libv> juanfont: disp isn't the nicest bit of code
<sgo11> oliv3r, really? ... I was so naive. ARM world is very different. I just can't believe it.
<oliv3r> sgo11: not so much arm world, more cheap chinese SoC world
<oliv3r> sgo11: and horrible chinese drivers
<libv> sgo11: PC world <-> embedded
<oliv3r> libv: well with the KMS, you could check for ddc, and revert to manual options if missing though?
<libv> oliv3r: i am wrong though, cubieboard does ddc
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<oliv3r> libv: cubietruck?
<libv> oliv3r: i am going to require proper layout info for the vga connector
<libv> ah, yes, i do need caffeine
<libv> for device tree
<libv> (the layout info)
<oliv3r> libv: well for cubie* we have schematics at the least
<oliv3r> benn might be willing to give you the VGA section of the board layout if that's needed
<libv> script.bin does not describe which ddc lines are wired to the connector, nor does it describe which h/vsync lines
<sgo11> oliv3r, thanks. this is just unbelievable! I cannot believe I have to compile the code if I change my monitor from VGA to HDMI or vice versa.
<libv> oliv3r: cubie is documented, and tom cubie helped me with finding out that the mele's blue connector and extra wires simply go dead on the board (after the on board connector)
<libv> sgo11: welcome to the embedded world
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<libv> underdeveloped, backwards and secretive
<libv> sgo11: be glad that we are here, and that you happened to have chosen sunxi hw
<oliv3r> well booting fedora 19 on CT and vga worked for the console
<oliv3r> lets see if it comes up with X
<sgo11> libv, oliv3r thanks for the help. I am sure I will have many questions.
<oliv3r> libv: should be tom radxa now :p
<libv> sgo11: our wiki answer a great many of them
<libv> oliv3r: in case you didn't read the backlog... i am running off of nand fully now
<libv> no normal human being will manage that, even if it is properly documented
<oliv3r> libv: oh really; i must have missed that; i did see you got u-boot onto the nand
<oliv3r> libv: yeah it's not inteded for normal humans :p
<oliv3r> libv: btw, the kernel booting image, that's the android kernel; 1 partition for kernel + initramfs without fs
<libv> i will split out the changes needed to u-boot and send them in
<oliv3r> libv: and hno said, aw 3.11, 4.11 and mtd are mutually exclusive
<libv> yeah
<oliv3r> yay, i see a mouse cursor!
<oliv3r> great, now i have a platform to work on :D
<sgo11> oliv3r, wait a second. I tried the build-in android. it can auto-detect vga or hdmi. why not linux? it should be the same.
<libv> i hope i spurred enough people on to actually fix the mtd stuff
<oliv3r> on my tablets, brining up fedora is easy; it 'just works'
<libv> sgo11: can it autodetect it?
<libv> sgo11: which hw is this again?
<oliv3r> libv: not just you ;)
<oliv3r> libv: someone even offered sponsorship for mtd developer
<sgo11> libv, yeah. cubietruck. I used both vga and hdmi yesterday.
<sgo11> vga to my monitor and hdmi to my tv. both works. why not linux?
<oliv3r> sgo11: simultaniously?
<libv> sgo11: because we have code we have been working on for years, which supports multiple SoCs
<oliv3r> i expect that the default config sets up dualhaed
<libv> sgo11: not something some vendor quickly threw together from bits and bobs provided by allwinner
<sgo11> oliv3r, not at the same time.
<libv> cubietruck has ddc
<oliv3r> disp driver should be the same though
<oliv3r> sgo11: try it at the same time, i'm curious if it is setup as dualhead (mirror) by default
<libv> all of that should get fixed after fosdem
<oliv3r> yeah we have a big 'todo' list
<sgo11> oliv3r, back to my original question, http://goo.gl/iWPFLK says I have to compile the code to set VGA as default. does it mean linux can not auto-detect vga or hdmi for cubietruck?
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<oliv3r> sgo11: you have to edit a 'config' file, called script.bin
<oliv3r> sgo11: our wiki should explain everything :p
<oliv3r> sgo11: script.bin gets decompiled with 'bin2fex' and you can recompile it with fex2bin
<sgo11> oliv3r, sorry, that is not my question. I can follow that guide. but android can autodetect vga or hdmi. can linux do that for cubietruck? thanks.
<oliv3r> libv: sunxi room takes 800 seats; what will we do with the 795 seats that are left?
<oliv3r> sgo11: no.
<libv> sgo11: either it worked out of the box, or it didn't
<libv> sgo11: that's what autodetection is about.
<sgo11> why not? if android can.
<libv> sgo11: the source code is available, good luck with fixing it
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<libv> sgo11: because it hates you?
<sgo11> i don't have any experiences on kernel and driver development.
<oliv3r> sgo11: our current linux disp driver can't do it;
<oliv3r> sgo11: patches welcome
<libv> more likely, our current linux disp does not have any cubietruck specific changes
<oliv3r> i think default ct runs 3.3 kernel or something ancient
<oliv3r> i still think they do some trickery; like vga enabled by default, and if hdmi is plugged in, disable vga
<oliv3r> but no clue what they changed etc
<libv> sgo11: in a very nearby future, things will be better.
<libv> as i already have vga and hdmi wired up in my kms driver
<sgo11> thanks.
<libv> both lack ddc still, hdmi is up next, once i have sent out my nand patches and my nand capable u-boot patches, and documented the process, i hopefully should be able to finally work on hdmi i2c again
<sgo11> is rootfs-xxx.tar.gz the actual ubuntu release? thanks.
<oliv3r> sgo11: no, it's crafted by smart hackers to be as good as possilbe
<oliv3r> sgo11: but since the guys behind cubieboard are behind it, all these questions are better handled there. we worry mostly about u-boot + kernel
<arete74> hi, in mainline the option for enable sunxi processor is "Allwinner A1X SOCs" , is more correct "Allwinner SUNXI SOCs"
<sgo11> oliv3r, ok. thanks a lot for the explanation even if I am still confused. :)
<oliv3r> arete74: yeah we should really rename that in one of the next patches, AXX sounds stupid too
<arete74> i can send patch?
<oliv3r> arete74: for mainline? of course, dunno if SUNXI is the best term, sunxi might be better
<oliv3r> mripard: ^
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<arete74> oliv3r, send to linux-sunxi and lkaml?
<oliv3r> and cc mripard etc
<arete74> oliv3r, etc is for ?
<oliv3r> et cetera?
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<sgo11> another question. before buying cubietruck, I asked in #ubuntu-arm. people there told me if I have an old ubuntu version in arm, I can simply do "do-release-upgrade" to update to the latest build. is this true in cubietruck? I can follow the tutorial and install ubuntu 12.10 and then do-release-upgrade to 13.10? thanks.
<oliv3r> sgo11: again #cubieboard; but from what I expect, they used a fairly recent ubuntu, added packges for our kernels and our modules; and left the rest 'pristine'
<oliv3r> so i assume apt-get update/upgrade; do-releaease-update all should work well
<oliv3r> i assume you are running from an SD card; so "whats the worst that can happen" :)
<oliv3r> flash a new sd card :)
<sgo11> oliv3r, yeah, I will run in microsd. thanks. hopefully, I can install lubuntu 12.10 successfully first. thanks.
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<oliv3r> ohh the irony
<oliv3r> i have told people a few times what could potentially fix the load 1.0+ thing; and now i run into it and don't remember
<libv> "load 1.0+" ?
<libv> oliv3r: if only you had wikied it :p
<oliv3r> load is always 1.00 when idle
<oliv3r> i do recall it being a script.bin issue; and i think it's the og
<libv> btw, sun4/5i_defconfig doesn't have cpufreq
<libv> which is why i ran into that yesterday
<oliv3r> ah!
<oliv3r> why not?! strange
<libv> same for g_ether
<libv> which imho is a pretty important one if you are working with tablets
<oliv3r> how is usb_ethernet support in u-boot?
<libv> setting up g_ether is now much improved: http://linux-sunxi.org/USB_Gadget
<libv> it isn't in u-boot, but it is for the proper os
<libv> it gives me networking on the go, as wifi point-to-point is flaky on the ICE
<libv> (german high speed rail)
<libv> and once you have set it up, you just use it all the time
<libv> just stick in the cable, done.
<oliv3r> oh nice
<oliv3r> ICE has ethernet?
<libv> g_ether is ethernet over usb
<libv> gives you like 1-2MBps on NFS
<oliv3r> usb otg btw causes the high cpu load; it probbably does an IDLE poll consuming 100% cpu
<oliv3r> but you don't see it in top as a process, just the load avg 1.00
<libv> who has been working upstream usb support?
<libv> and did he at all care about OTG?
<oliv3r> usb != otg; we have seperate controlle
<oliv3r> otg is mentor graphics Inventra IP
<libv> great. more upstream and development board shortsightedness hitting us
<oliv3r> well the loadavg is an old bug; from the AW kernels
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<oliv3r> but luckly, the mentor graphics IP is mainlined and wens will work on adapting it for sunxi
<oliv3r> then backporting should be easy
<libv> ok, so wens is working on it
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<libv> wens: OTG is important if we do not want to fully limit ourselves to development boards
<oliv3r> aw took the inventra driver, or some reference driver, and mutalated it
<oliv3r> (added gpio support for the detect pin)
<wens> just started looking at it
<wens> have to post my other patches first
<libv> wens: good, thanks :)
<wens> ccaione: nice drawing
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<ccaione> wens: mripard's :)
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<ccaione> arete74: your email is empty
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<nove> oliv3r: isn't olimex in fosdem will have stand and sell boards, ask them to put banner to advertise the sunxi talk
<libv> ah
<libv> oliv3r: don't worry
<libv> oliv3r: it will be ok, as arm is hot and this is the only interesting ARM talk
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<oliv3r> crap i put my cpufreq on 4 GHz and i dunno what it did, but it crashed :)
<oliv3r> it's still drawing power, but not responding to input anymore
<oliv3r> nove: i don't think he intends to bring lots of hardware
* ccaione wants tshirts
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<nove> oliv3r: when someone ask olimex what is the level of support for the boards with sunxi, they could refer the existence of the talk, this sort of things (just saying, in the case this little things doesn't come to mind)
<oliv3r> hold the press, change all engines; default governor for sunxi should be performance.
<oliv3r> nove: i'm pretty sure they will tbh
<oliv3r> don't think the governor will influence mali much
<oliv3r> anybody familiar with yum, fedora and ideally with hansg's image?/
<oliv3r> i'm trying to install something via yum through a proxy, but i'm not sure if yum likes my proxy settings
<hansg> oliv3r, is your date correct ?
<hansg> If your date is of the https cert validation will fail
<oliv3r> hansg: oh Hi!
<oliv3r> yes date is wrong
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<oliv3r> hansg: there's no proxy setting in the GUI installer is there? i looked but couldn't find it
<ccaione> hansg: the patch for changing the trigger type has been submitted to mainline?
<hansg> oliv3r, no not that I know of
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<hansg> ccaione, yes
<hansg> I think it has already gone into some stable releases too
<oliv3r> hansg: i guess i can't use ntpdate via a proxy either :(
<ccaione> hum, I based the code on mripard's sunxi-next
<mripard> ccaione: hmm, I might not have updated sunxi-next lately then :(
<ccaione> :) ok, time to switch to mainline then
<oliv3r> ccaione: your rtc driver will let me save the clock from the system right? hwclock --systohc right?
<ccaione> oliv3r: don't remember the syntax but yes
<oliv3r> ccaione: just something that came up in my mind
<oliv3r> hansg: date fixes it :)
<oliv3r> well i got a basic sd card setup; now time to setup all this via an ssd :D
<Turl> morning
<ccaione> moin Turl
<oliv3r> hansg: i assume the image will work just as well on an sdd as it did on the mmc?
<oliv3r> Turl: mornin'
<WarheadsSE> since I have many of you active .. A20, best branch for up'ing the package in Arch?
<hansg> oliv3r, it does for me, after just cp -pr from mmc to ssd, and update /etc/fstab a the / fs uuid will change
<hansg> oliv3r, and you need to relabel selinux attributes on reboot, do touch .autorelabel in the new root before rebooting
<hansg> (note the relabel is going to take a while)
<oliv3r> hansg: oh i simply xzcat the image to the sdd
<oliv3r> wont' that work? the auto resize etc?
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<nikrou> Hi all
<oliv3r> hansg: obviously i'll boot mmc do a root=/ change
<nikrou> I've got an a13 devices semi-bricked after installing CWM
<oliv3r> nikrou: a13 is unbrickable
<nikrou> I tried to update it through fel mode
<hansg> oliv3r, you will still need an mmc to boot, with a root=/dev/sda3 argument, then what you suggest should work I guess. I've never tried. I move rootfs from one disk to another semi regularly so I just did what I always do
<nikrou> i'm on debian
<oliv3r> nikrou: livesuit only works from windows
<nikrou> sure ?
<nikrou> nobody succeeded on linux ?
<Turl> oliv3r: there's also a linux version, but it's a bit of a pain I hear
<nikrou> I've got the linux version
<nikrou> from git repo
<nikrou> I compiled awusb driver
<Turl> http://cubieboard.org/download/ there is download links there
<oliv3r> Turl: i know, i fixed the usb driver 2 years ago; but i never got it to work
<nikrou> The flashing process stopped with an error :
<Turl> tbh the two times I used livesuit I needed to try like 10 times each :p and that was on xp
<nikrou> pcall FAILED Tools_ii.lua:2845: attempt to index global 'hwSCanData' (a nil value) 2 275
<oliv3r> Turl: yeah; when i got my tablet for the firs ttime
<oliv3r> nikrou: anyway, allwinner devices are unbrickable :)
<nikrou> I never succeed on xp nor windows 7
<oliv3r> nikrou: boot from usd and your happy
<nikrou> how can I do that ?
<oliv3r> nikrou: have you checked our wiki? http://linux-sunxi.org
<oliv3r> nikrou: there's a chapter about booting android/cm from SD card
<nikrou> Yes of course
<nikrou> That one ?
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<nikrou> I didn't try it because my board is not referenced
<nikrou> in boards.cfg
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<oliv3r> nikrou: you probably don't need felboot to boot from uSD card ;)
<oliv3r> nikrou: and that howto talks about lichee-u-boot; which only supports sun4i and sun5i_a13, which I think supports your board :p
<nikrou> yes I have a sun5i_a13
<oliv3r> try that
<oliv3r> nikrou: also, can't you boot into cwm?
<nikrou> yes
<nikrou> but I'm on endless boot from recovery
<arokux> ccaione: hi, you were n01 earlier, weren't you? :)
<ccaione> arokux: yep
<arokux> ccaione: are you still working on axp?
<ccaione> yep
<arokux> cool
<ccaione> while(1) printf("yep\n");
<wens> arokux: you're back
<arokux> yep :)
<oliv3r> yay
* arokux hugs oliv3r
<WarheadsSE> arokux: hey, there he be
<arokux> yep, I was on vacation and although I had two sunxi boards with me it was difficult to force myself to work on something...
<arokux> WarheadsSE: you want to update the kernel for A20?
<WarheadsSE> That'd be nice.. yeah
<WarheadsSE> Looking at which tree/branch is best option for all peripheral support at this time
<WarheadsSE> the other sunxi kernels could use a bump too
<arokux> sunxi-3.4 was always *the* branch, but I wasn't around for some time.
<nikrou> I cannot compile awutils
<nikrou> many errors
<WarheadsSE> arokux: there we some issues with the A20 in the past, IIRC.
<WarheadsSE> I know that there has also been some decent progress towards mainline
<nikrou> Read to fast
<arokux> yes, thanks to hansg who has gathered all our hacks into one branch
<nikrou> I already have boot.img, recovery.img, system.img and bootloader.img
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<arokux> wens: is everything sorted with gmac?
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<wens> arokux: cleaning and rebasing to do a final test
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<arokux> wens: I see
<arokux> hm.. there are some patches for NAND against mainline. what are they? somebody is working towards adding full support of the NAND controller to mainline? o_O
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<wens> only basic support atm
<arokux> good to know
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<libv> i got annoyed by the android figurine that is being shown when booting from nand
<libv> will include it in the nand page
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<Turl> libv: :p
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<Turl> libv: you could make a Lima Inside (tm) one for fosdem
<libv> nand really is quite unstable
<libv> oh, nm, thing just is being daft again
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<libv> and this usbc enabling stuff really needs attention too
<libv> i just killed g_ether by unloading 8188eu
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<libv> i didn't kill the driver, but i did kill the connection
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<wens> great... broke something
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<ccaione> oliv3r: no reply from vger?
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<wens> have to wait till tomorrow to debug :(
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<nove> does mozilla doesn't know that we exist? there are some hints that the tablet is with A31 https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/01/mozilla-launches-contribution-program-to-help-deliver-firefox-os-to-tablets/
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<nove> "Major issue : CedarX hardware Video codec bug 924015"
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<ZetaNeta> Hi
<ZetaNeta> I am thinking of a "futuristic" device meant for stuff like cubieboard and etc arm boards.
<ZetaNeta> What is the best communication type for a set of buttons, and maybe a small monochrome screen?
<ZetaNeta> (Over ~0.5m)
<ccaione> "best" means nothing
<ZetaNeta> ccaione, Wireless is not a way... not in the first versions
<ZetaNeta> As it will be hard to find a place for a battery in such a device
<bsdfox> ZetaNeta, if you don't want wireless what's wrong with usb?
<ZetaNeta> bsdfox, Just asking if... wait, bsdfox...
<ZetaNeta> I remember you from #freebsd
<ZetaNeta> Ah, anyway. I am asking if there is a better communication for such thing
<ZetaNeta> from another side... usb seems reliable
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<ZetaNeta> ok, i guess it should be usb... even through even the microusb cable may seem big on this device
<ZetaNeta> but brb for now, i need to go somewhere
<bsdfox> ZetaNeta, there are technically a ton of different options but usb is by far the most popular for simple things like keyboards
<ZetaNeta> bsdfox, Yeah... you are right.
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<cajg> Opps, wrong channel :-)
<buZz> unforgivable
<cajg> Well, sort of. But I would be very grateful if anyone can explain what this means for me as a user of A10 devices
<cajg> and as a patcher and compiler of kernels for them
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<cajg> in my neophyte imagination, this is for recent kernels and I need not woryy for a while, if ever
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<buZz> i bet coreboot will just be a replacement for uboot
<cajg> hmm, but uboot is already open, I thought, so I can't see great advantage
<buZz> i think coreboot's only goal is booting the kernel faster after powerup
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<cajg> oic, I only reboot my MK802 about twice a year
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<oliv3r> ccaione: nope, nothing yet
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<oliv3r> libv: that logo is epic
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<libv> oliv3r: it looks fantastic on a crappy tablet screen
<libv> black/black is pretty daft
<libv> but the blue hue makes it really nice on a tablet
<oliv3r> hehe yeah
<oliv3r> i'm gonna put it on my tablet
<libv> if your tablet works properly, you only see it for a second :p
<oliv3r> i have a 3 second u-boot delay on mine :p
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<oliv3r> sunxi 3.4 doesn't need uart?
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<oliv3r> ssvb: i did do all those power tests with the battery installed; but it was fully charged, so shouldn't influence it all
<ssvb> oliv3r: thanks a lot
<oliv3r> ssvb: i do see I should have used slightly different frequencies for testing
<oliv3r> ssvb: next time, shall we use the following table for frequency choice:
<oliv3r> <6>[cpu_freq] INF: voltage = 1450mv frequency = 1008MHz
<oliv3r> <6>[cpu_freq] INF: voltage = 1400mv frequency = 912MHz
<oliv3r> <6>[cpu_freq] INF: voltage = 1200mv frequency = 720MHz
<oliv3r> <6>[cpu_freq] INF: voltage = 1100mv frequency = 528MHz
<oliv3r> <6>[cpu_freq] INF: voltage = 1300mv frequency = 864MHz
<oliv3r> <6>[cpu_freq] INF: voltage = 1050mv frequency = 312MHz
<oliv3r> <6>[cpu_freq] INF: voltage = 1050mv frequency = 144MHz
<oliv3r> with optionally 60 MHz I suppose as rock bottom :)
<oliv3r> though the cpu_freq driver goes as low as 0 MHz @ 1V
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<oliv3r> if i'd want to boot from sda, but it's not connected or powerd up; i'd get a kernel panic right? unable to mount vfs bal bla? not a plain old 'hang'
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<oliv3r> hmm, waiting for root device ..
<WarheadsSE> yeah, if you have rootwait ..
<WarheadsSE> it'lls just sit there
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<mnemoc> re-moin
<oliv3r> maybe i don't have power
<WarheadsSE> also possible, since it is unaware of the device apparently
<oliv3r> can't be power issue
<oliv3r> i have a battery backup + external power
<oliv3r> but lets try a 1 amp charger
<oliv3r> same
<oliv3r> strange, very strange
<oliv3r> actually; when booting the exact same kernel; but with rootfs on mmc; i can mount sda just fine and browse it
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<WarheadsSE> hrm
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<plaes> soo.. which board with SATA and LAN would you recommend?
<oliv3r> olimexino micro-a20
<oliv3r> or olimex-lime
<plaes> cool, that's what I was aiming to ask next :)
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<oliv3r> lime is hard to get now; and might only be a10
<oliv3r> olimexino a20 is ... wel a20
<plaes> has there been any signs that allwinner starts integrating recent submissions with their code?
<oliv3r> or stole something because it was better then their own crap :)
<plaes> well, this would be an improvement :)
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<jinzo> afaik - but I'm not that sharp today - there were some concrete proofs/signs that they're including patches from linux-sunxi even in te A10 days?
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<jinzo> ain't that cheap when I last looked at this.
<jinzo> but still looks nice indeed.
<plaes> yup
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<oliv3r> that's very neat
<oliv3r> it's not cheap
<oliv3r> but just awesome way to do it
<oliv3r> now we need an allwinner soc
<oliv3r> and go gog o
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<Seppoz> when i use usb 0 as otg host only i have to set drive manually for the usb to work, is that normakl?
<Seppoz> we do not have a detect circiiut
<Seppoz> its basically connected like all the other 2 usb
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