<oliv3r>
i literally did that but with armjf, saucy and minbase
<oliv3r>
i did not ise fpreigm
<Seppoz>
let me grab my marsboard
<Turl>
WarheadsSE: :p I was just kidding
<oliv3r>
im in bed now:p
<WarheadsSE>
Turl: :P
<oliv3r>
WarheadsSE: doesnt explain why yhe same goes wrong with the alip omage though ...
<WarheadsSE>
oliv3r: I didn't read much surrounding it.
<WarheadsSE>
what now
<oliv3r>
i ment Seppoz ;p
<Seppoz>
1 sec :)
<Seppoz>
you cant keep me awake and go to bed lol
<oliv3r>
lol
<oliv3r>
if i understand the mampage right, minbase is reasonable for setting up a desktop
<oliv3r>
hmm foreign might be not needed but ill do it anyway
<Seppoz>
did you use --foreign option?
<Turl>
you don't need foreign if you're debootstrapping the same arch
<Seppoz>
but he isnt
<Turl>
foreign is for eg when you want to debootstrap armhf on a x86 box
<Seppoz>
thats what hes doing
<Turl>
he is I think - he said he was doing it on fedora on the device?
<Seppoz>
woot
<Turl>
or did I misread? :p
<Turl>
oliv3r: ^
<Turl>
bbiab
<Seppoz>
oliv3r: deboostrapping stage 2 now on device
<Seppoz>
in like 5 mins we should know...
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<Seppoz>
oliv3r: here are my instructions for uboot: http://pastebin.com/yaEN7m7h - i just tested it and it works fine, let me know if you have any issues
<Seppoz>
infact i missed to delete one line, here is the most recent:
<Seppoz>
you might also want to use an armhf veryion istead of armel
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<libv>
oliv3r: why are you passing init= ?
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<libv>
ssvb: have you had any time with dri2 yet?
<mnemoc>
jikes, 5124 unread mails in my linux-sunxi folder :\
<mnemoc>
libv: hi, is your kms driver somehow usable yet?
<libv>
mnemoc: very very limited
<libv>
mnemoc: and ugly atm
<libv>
mnemoc: on hold until fosdem
<libv>
mnemoc: it needs: i2c on both vga and hdmi (hdmi work started), lcd support (some poking was done, but nothing more), then LVDS, palette and interrupts need to be implemented
<libv>
then a round if clean-up and then it can be included in sunxi-3.4
<libv>
so not much work really
<libv>
1-2 weeks
<libv>
then porting to mainline and devicetreeing...
<mnemoc>
i see
<libv>
vga and hdmi are working fine (both still lack ddc though), hw cursor and planes are working as well, iirc about 6kloc atm
<libv>
ah, right, needs testing on a20 and needs fixing on A13
<libv>
so 2/3rds of the way there i'd say, at least for sunxi-3.4
<libv>
ump integration might be nice to have
<mnemoc>
nice
<plaes>
oh sweet5
<oliv3r>
Seppoz: turl; yeah i was debootstrapping on the same arch
<oliv3r>
libv: so i can add --verbose to see hwere it hangs
<libv>
oliv3r: well, there is something you are doing different than me or Turl
<libv>
oliv3r: are you getting anywhere with lima or with cedrus?
<hani>
is there a quick and easy way to export a series of patches in a newsgroup (linux-sunxi for example) and apply it to a local repo
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<libv>
hani: s/newsgroup/mailing list/
<libv>
hani: you can save the mails directly, and then git am them
<libv>
hani: or you can set up some hook to your mail client, google will tell you more
<ssvb>
libv: the original mali blobs just cause too many problems if packaged as-is
<libv>
ssvb: i would even be very happy with a special branch of fbturbo just for lima
<libv>
ssvb: if not, i will have to demo without overlays, which will make it very slow
<hani>
oh I use to forward each post into my email and then export yo mbox format and then use git am
<ssvb>
libv: yes, I have not given up on that yet
<hani>
libv: thanx
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<oliv3r>
libv: well now that i have a booting system; it's time to install allt he requirements and re-setup cedrus; but under fedora it worked; so a small step to get that ported over to alip
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<ZetaNeta>
hi
<oliv3r>
hey
<ZetaNeta>
Yesterday i bought a mk802.....
<ZetaNeta>
Are all mk802 based on allwinner?
<ZetaNeta>
Because mine came with a AMLogic AML8726-m....
<ZetaNeta>
And i dont know what to do with it now
<ZetaNeta>
I can return it (maybe), but the 2 bad points will be: 1) I am again without a MK802 2) The shop is very far from here (Yes, i dont buy through inet)
<ZetaNeta>
I know this is allwinner related channel... but, is it possible to "do something" with what i bought?
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: most
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: but some are a mistery
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: amlogic is very linux unfriendly
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<ZetaNeta>
Well, mine got a "burn through plastic" amlogic
<oliv3r>
btp?
<ZetaNeta>
Well, on its "default" speed, its still more hot than a overclocked a10
<oliv3r>
libv: yay my saucy ubuntu image boots :D
<oliv3r>
libv: the ubuntu issue was very likly a --second-stage; thanks to seppos
<lkcl>
ZetaNeta: whatever you do do *not* get involved with amlogic products.
<ZetaNeta>
I know this... but i dont think i have a choice
<ZetaNeta>
Maximum i can do is to return it. But i dont remember that one came with a warranty thingy
<lkcl>
ZetaNeta: apologies but consider it to be a lesson learned. throw it away, sell it on ebay and then come back here and ask *before* spending money.
<oliv3r>
lkcl: in his defence, mk802's usually are a10 based
<oliv3r>
lkcl: luck of buying black boxes
<ZetaNeta>
lkcl, I came in a shop "real far away", and thought quite a bit before buying it, but there were no wifi around :3
<lkcl>
ZetaNeta: return it, sell it, whatever: anything else you have several months worth of reverse-engineering ahead of you if you attempt to stick with it.
<oliv3r>
lkcl: don't you think amlogic changed their stance?
<lkcl>
oliv3r: they don't have to. like rockchip they have big customers stuck with them, as long as they can keep on supplying them with GPL-violating binary-only but *functional* OSes, what do they care
<oliv3r>
lkcl: i did read some time ago that most sources where released though; execpt for vpu
<ZetaNeta>
FSF is a powerful foundation....
<lkcl>
it's the usual story. ZetaNeta you are extremely unusual in that you want to do something different
<oliv3r>
lkcl: ZetaNeta IS unusual :)
<lkcl>
ZetaNeta: but they need to actually have a copyright case
<lkcl>
:)
<oliv3r>
lkcl: will you be attending fosdem2014?
<ZetaNeta>
nop
<ZetaNeta>
lkcl, "Its all about linux"
<lkcl>
oliv3r: i'd love to - but i no longer have a permanent job so i now have to think carefully about what to do.
<mnemoc>
:/
<oliv3r>
ouch
<oliv3r>
well there's live-streams
<oliv3r>
:p
<oliv3r>
and video's :p
<mnemoc>
really sorry to hear about your job :(
<oliv3r>
lkcl: quit to focus on rhombus?
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<lkcl>
oliv3r: to do that i need money, don't i. there's not been *any* funding - at all - since the project started.
<lkcl>
oliv3r: if i had funding the project would have been a lot further along, wouldn't it?
<mnemoc>
lkcl: indiegogo campaign?
* ZetaNeta
wants a80. /me wants a80
<mnemoc>
ZetaNeta: PVR6 and sata support is uncertain
<oliv3r>
lkcl: i thought you had a customer/client that wanted to build his stuff around eoma?
<lkcl>
mnemoc: indiegogo campaigns require a working prototype. a working prototype at this kind of level means you need funding, doesn't it?
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: a80 is powervr
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: and it likley doesn't have sata
<lkcl>
oliv3r: yes... and they chose not to follow our advice so it's delaying the project.
<mnemoc>
lkcl: you do have the PCB designs for the tablet, extend that to a good laptop, show renderings, sell
<oliv3r>
lkcl: you have the eoma68 cards don't you? and there's the inventus thing or whatever it was called?
<mnemoc>
improv
<lkcl>
mnemoc: that requires funding to make the PCB so that it can be proved to be correct.
<ZetaNeta>
oliv3r, Is powervr bad?
<lkcl>
oliv3r: yes, and yes.
<lkcl>
ZetaNeta: ask anyone who has a laptop with an Intel Atom GMA chipset.
<libv>
lkcl: how is improv selling so far?
<lkcl>
libv: i don't know because it's our client's project. we're waiting for them to place the order for the 2,500 units.
<mnemoc>
lkcl: sure you need to prototype... but that is after having the indiegogo money
<libv>
lkcl: the client being makeplaylive.com ?
<mnemoc>
vaultlalala
<libv>
mnemoc: ?
<lkcl>
libv: yes.
<ZetaNeta>
and... eh.... why did they dislike sata?
<mnemoc>
the company that sells the improv is called vault something
<oliv3r>
lkcl: i thought imrpov was a hobby thing by aron?
<libv>
ah :)
<mnemoc>
ZetaNeta: they aim at tablets and "phablets".... no use for sata there
<ZetaNeta>
mnemoc, I am still waiting for a allwinner phone
<mnemoc>
ZetaNeta: but Benn said that the soc supports SATA even if they didn't add it to the optimus board
<Seppoz>
oliv3r: seeny my howto?
<mnemoc>
ZetaNeta: unfortunatelly everything still in rumour stage
<oliv3r>
Seppoz: aye, even used parts of it
<ZetaNeta>
I am waiting for a80, because its powerful enough for what i need it
<lkcl>
ZetaNeta: the cost of the chipsets to do the R.F. baseband etc, which in almost all cases means having an ARM SoC embedded in them, mean that it's cost-ineffective.
<Seppoz>
is it working now?
<oliv3r>
Seppoz: i fixed it all; i used alip to do a fresh bootstrap; which left me with a deboostrap dir; which i could use to do a 2nd stage from; i needed to do the 2nd stage; it works now
<lkcl>
ZetaNeta: allwinner would need to license the baseband DSPs and put them *into* allwinner SoCs in order to be cost-effective.
<Seppoz>
great
* mnemoc
hopes this optimus board will help/encourage people to RE the pvr
<oliv3r>
nah
<libv>
lkcl: so basically makeplaylive hasn't gotten 2.5k pre-orders yet...
<mnemoc>
lkcl: the A31 has a fifth core, openrisc. called ar100
<lkcl>
mnemoc: there's a project set up for that. _some_ work's been started. enough to know that it's a f*****g complex task.
<ZetaNeta>
The SATA support, or atleast USB 3.0 is really important in my case.
<lkcl>
libv: 2.5k _orders_. they're committed.
<oliv3r>
lkcl: a23 has a diff one; arisc :p
<mnemoc>
lkcl: this ar100 might be intended for baseband
<ZetaNeta>
Also powerful encoding...
<lkcl>
mnemoc: i heard about that. awesome idea.
<mnemoc>
lkcl: sure it's a complex task, but this is an amazing board WITH jtag, uart, etc.... not available before
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<mnemoc>
lkcl: it's easier to do that on a devboard than on a CE device
<libv>
lkcl: in that case, why hasn't the order been placed yet?
<mnemoc>
or... less amazingly hard :\
<libv>
lkcl: are they waiting until all orders are in?
<libv>
lkcl: which also means, waiting until the people who expected their board to be delivered in january start demanding their money back?
<lkcl>
libv: because they're collecting people's money. they're basically doing a "kickstarter"-like campaign
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<oliv3r>
eitherway, I do hope the eoma68 standard becomes a success. i still think the idea behind it is not bad at all
<libv>
makeplaylive.com forums seem pretty empty
<lkcl>
i gotta drop off some deliveries before lunch.
<lkcl>
apologies gotta go folks. back in a couple of hours.
<oliv3r>
and that at 13:37
<mnemoc>
cu lkcl
<libv>
the fact that people get the runaround between makeplaylive.com and vaultechnologies.com does not bring confidence...
<oliv3r>
added the ubuntu repo's from packages.linux-sunxi and it pulled in mesa packages etc
<oliv3r>
getting exited now :)
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<ZetaNeta>
hi HdkR, welcome to the club of anonymous allwinner users
<ZetaNeta>
Lets all say hi to HdkR
<HdkR>
What
<oliv3r>
ZetaNeta: i'm not anonymous
<HdkR>
I'm not anonymous or a AllWinner user :p
<ZetaNeta>
HdkR, "Why then came this channel you to?"
<HdkR>
Couple months ago libv posted a discussion that sounded like it was a fun time, so I joined in
<HdkR>
I may get a AllWinner A80 just to be ashamed of IMGTec's drivers though
<mnemoc>
isn't the A80 announced for Q2 2014?
* HdkR
shrugs
<HdkR>
Whenever it comes out
<HdkR>
I've got my K1 dev board to play with until that time rolls around
<pacopad>
@ssvb : Hi , i got a little question for you , i'm looking for a software that transmit image form /dev/disp remotly like a vncserver
<pacopad>
@ssvb does it exist ?
<ssvb>
pacopad: leaving alone /dev/disp for now, what exactly are you trying to achieve?
<pacopad>
i'm playing with vdpau and xbmc, i'dont have always access to my TV because of my kids
<pacopad>
and i'd like to see if an image is dsplayed
<pacopad>
but with vncserver i got only black screen even if an image is displayed
<ssvb>
pacopad: is the performance important for you?
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<pacopad>
not at all
<pacopad>
i just need to some images and the xbmc debug info
<oliv3r>
so basically, you want 'occasional' screenshots (0.5 fps) to see whats on tv
<oliv3r>
like a nanny-cam I suppose
<oliv3r>
i was thinking about this as a feature actually too
<oliv3r>
but for the android remote control
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<oliv3r>
it would be nice to be able to control xbmc from your phone and actually see whats going on on screen
<oliv3r>
the remote now is ... meh
<pacopad>
@oliv3r : it's exactly what i want , 1 fps would be perfect
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<ssvb>
oliv3r: this means that we need to query the status of all the disp layers, grab the needed data, composite layers together and make a file with a nice screenshot
<oliv3r>
ssvb: do all vnc solutions work this way?
<oliv3r>
ssvb: i know under 'that other os' programs like dameware install something called a 'mirror driver'
<oliv3r>
since they can't hack that into their drivers
<libv>
ssvb: nope.
<ccaione>
habemus regulators
<ssvb>
libv: there is also another way
<ssvb>
libv: disp writeback pipeline
<libv>
ssvb: indeed
<libv>
it might be interesting for miracast/widi in future
<libv>
if it works
<oliv3r>
that'll be a significant performance hog though, no?
<oliv3r>
with the crammed memory bus as it is
<rm>
install an $5 webcam
<rm>
point it to the TV
<ssvb>
rm: :)
<rm>
low tech solution!
<oliv3r>
bah no f2fs in 3.4
<libv>
probably, but the hw seems to have this provision
<oliv3r>
oh really? then that's very cool
<oliv3r>
miracast is something exciting surely
<pacopad>
@rm the TV is actually displaying cartoons for my kid :)
<oliv3r>
or so you hope :p
<oliv3r>
in a udev rule, how do i figure out what the KERNEL name is supposed to be?
<oliv3r>
i tried cedar and cedar_dev, for the sunxi_cedar_dev module
<libv>
did lima work out?
<oliv3r>
almost there
<oliv3r>
i'm installing build-esentials + co now
<oliv3r>
but since i was copying the mali/ump udev rules, as i probably need them; i figured it was a good time to add disp + cedar to that
<libv>
oliv3r: i have no idea about what that string needs to be though
<oliv3r>
ssvb: ok i have to play catchup here first :)
<ssvb>
oliv3r: but more stuff is needed for flawless libvdpau integration
<oliv3r>
ssvb: i had vdpau running with .. i don't even know which driver on hansg's fedora image
<oliv3r>
i just compiled libvdpau, installed it and used it with mpv
<oliv3r>
with this fresh ubuntu image, i installed fbturbo
<oliv3r>
so do I need anythign specific for fbturbo?
<oliv3r>
[ 12.026] (II) FBTURBO(0): enabled G2D acceleration
<oliv3r>
sweet
<oliv3r>
i think the overlay branch needs g2d so that's great
<ssvb>
oliv3r: the key part for libvdpau integration is 'flawless' :) in the sense that the CPU overhead and memory bandwidth use still can be reduced
<oliv3r>
so if i have fbturbo loaded; i can just continue doing what i did before
<oliv3r>
export VDPAU_DRIVER=sunxi
<oliv3r>
mpv file -optionstoenablevdpau
<Seppoz>
is there any sunxi optimized toolchain to start from?
<Seppoz>
including cpu opti flags
<oliv3r>
Seppoz: most use the linaro stuff
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<oliv3r>
Seppoz: i use the gentoo version ;)
<Seppoz>
but thats just generic arm isnt it?
<oliv3r>
armhf i think
<Seppoz>
do they even use the hardware floating layer?
<ssvb>
oliv3r: yes, fbturbo is not any different from fbdev for libvdpau-sunxi right now, so all the current instructions work
<Seppoz>
im searching for an optimized distro/toolchain combo, otherwise i gottam amke one which sucks
<oliv3r>
bah no mpv in ubuntu :(
<Seppoz>
cant you just apt-get it?
<oliv3r>
nopers
<oliv3r>
it is in trusty
<oliv3r>
but not yet in saucy or saucy-backports
<Seppoz>
mplayrt is very old
<Seppoz>
should be in others too
<Seppoz>
sec
<oliv3r>
mplayer2 is in saucy, mpv isn't
<Seppoz>
ok its not original mplayer
<Seppoz>
well just apt-get build essential and compile it?
<Seppoz>
should be quite easy
<oliv3r>
effort effort
<Seppoz>
mpv in trusty also isnt for arm i think
<oliv3r>
i'm using mplayer2 for now
<Seppoz>
lazy boy
<Seppoz>
:)
<ccaione>
oliv3r: do we have the voltage in output from axp? I want to see if what I get from /sys/ is what really is in output
<ccaione>
(and here I don't have a multimeter)
<oliv3r>
ccaione: you want me to measure the axp for you? is that your question?
<ccaione>
:D just 3 pins if you have time
<oliv3r>
what board
<ccaione>
A20
<Seppoz>
its basically set by cpu so you should either have it exported in sysfs or should be quite easy to do
<oliv3r>
cb2 or cb3
<ccaione>
cb2
<oliv3r>
which pins/points
<oliv3r>
tkae a pic and point out what you want measured
<ccaione>
argh, ok
<ccaione>
oliv3r: otherwise I can compare with linux-sunxi kernel. it is easier this way
<oliv3r>
whatever is easier for you; i don't mind hooking up my scope to a a few pins if you tell me which pins :)
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<ccaione>
oliv3r: thank you... let me check with sunxi-kernel before
<pacopad>
so no way to transmit /dev/disp output ?
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<oliv3r>
not yet :p[
<pacopad>
ok thank you
<oliv3r>
jemk: mplayer1 doesn't work with vpdau does it? only mplayer2?
<jemk>
oliv3r: it should work, but debian mplayer1 had no vdpau support compiled
<oliv3r>
jemk: with the latest osd branch, with 4k patches, i can't open sintel-4k
<oliv3r>
jemk: yeah i think that's why it fails with invalid vo
<oliv3r>
mplayaer2 works fine, so i'll use that
<libv>
aha, that french guy who hacked up some a13 tablet responded now
<libv>
let's wait and see whether he will really work the wiki
<oliv3r>
jemk: ffodivxvdpau is working properly too? or is that a lie in -vc help
<jemk>
oliv3r: no mp4/divx yet, so it won't work. mplayer1+2 don't check if vdpau features are supported, they simply assume they are
<jemk>
and the 4k sintel, what doesn't work? strange picture or nothing at all. but 4k isn't very useful anyways, too slow
<oliv3r>
4k just stops 'unable to decode intime'
<oliv3r>
ok then i'll remove ffodivxvdpau
<oliv3r>
do you know if mplayer2 checks /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf?
<oliv3r>
so i can set the vc by default
<oliv3r>
seems to ignore it atm
<oliv3r>
ok it does print it 'forced vc: ffh264vdpau' and VO [vdpau] but still 100% cpu usage
<oliv3r>
blasted typo's! vdapu is something else :)
<jemk>
oliv3r: can you remove the XClearWindow in presentation_queue.c:228 and see if it still has 100% cpu?
<oliv3r>
it was a typo; i used vdapu instead of vdpau
<jemk>
ah, ok
<oliv3r>
any clue what parameters i should use to get a cedar rule going?
<oliv3r>
i tried KERNEL== now trying DEVNAME=="cedar_dev"
<oliv3r>
all won't fly
<jemk>
udevadm info /dev/cedar_dev
<oliv3r>
E: DEVNAME=/dev/cedar_dev
<oliv3r>
N: cedar_dev
<oliv3r>
E: SUBSYSTEM=cedar_dev
<jemk>
works here: KERNEL=="cedar_dev",MODE="0666"
<oliv3r>
that's exactly what i have
<oliv3r>
works for disp
<oliv3r>
not for cedar_dev
<oliv3r>
lemme try 1 more thing
<oliv3r>
reboot!
<jemk>
and my udevadm output is exactly like yours...
<oliv3r>
ok udev restart isn't enough
<oliv3r>
reboot is required
<oliv3r>
adding to wiki
<jemk>
udevadm control --reload-rules && udevadm trigger
<jemk>
but don't ask me if this is the recommended way
<woprr>
lo
<woprr>
u guys are just testing the VE ?
<libv>
oliv3r: udevadm trigger ?
<libv>
whut? then something else is probably
<libv>
off
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<libv>
i had some issues when splitting up the udev from the howto, into ump and mali
<libv>
it took ages to find out that it hadn't used the proper suffix for the file
<oliv3r>
i took your syntax for disp and cedar
<oliv3r>
maybe combine it all into 50-sunxi-video.rules
<oliv3r>
right, time to compile liam
<libv>
nah, in the end each of these bits comes with its own userspace library
<libv>
and this library should also install the necessary udev rules
<oliv3r>
too true
<woprr>
the aw briefs state h.264 MVC decoding support, here're some testing streams but the fraunhofer hhi JMVC 8.5 extractor/decoder fails on them (requires some SEI and NAL extensions not in those samples or streams from BD), could You try some of the streams and report to list? A friend wants to know for his decision if he should try another effort to implement MVC in ffmpeg, but he doesn't want to do those huge work
<woprr>
if we've got hardware decoder support for MVC in AW or Rockchip SoCs already...
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<woprr>
heres the sample code to understand MVC (much easier than reading the papers ;) ) cvs –d :pserver:jvtuser@garcon.ient.rwth-aachen.de:/cvs/jvt checkout jmvc
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<oliv3r>
which file should I dl and test?
<woprr>
wam...
<oliv3r>
downloading mvcds1.264 right now
<woprr>
for f in h264-MVC/*; do mediainfo $f 2>&1 ; done ...
<oliv3r>
works fine; a little fast
<woprr>
yes ok
<oliv3r>
dancing chinese
<woprr>
really? cool... so the base 2D stream works at least, fine thhx
<oliv3r>
mvcsd123 all work
<woprr>
well then I try to get the friend to join sunxi devs :-)
<woprr>
thanks
<oliv3r>
any other file i should test?
<woprr>
no thanks :)
<woprr>
I need to upgrade and rebuild my sunxi for the Olimex A20 , out of sync for months, the devel repository and branch stated on list by PL is correct?
<oliv3r>
woprr: i just installed a saucy system using debootrap; add sunxi kernel; go
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<oliv3r>
jemk: have you tried playing back 720p25_mobcal_ter.mkv?
<woprr>
i've got a debian / already, thx, but kernel, uboot + fex, etc needs upgrading, many changes
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<jemk>
oliv3r: not yet, i will
<oliv3r>
it works
<oliv3r>
but is very choppy
<oliv3r>
and i get an artifact
<oliv3r>
could of course be the encoding
<oliv3r>
the ducks take off; into tree, park joy all work fine
<jemk>
looks like it's the video, i can't see any difference to software decoding on pc
<oliv3r>
ok
<oliv3r>
see the tiny artifact too?
<oliv3r>
it's a small green line
<oliv3r>
flashing
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<oliv3r>
it's short, about 3 cm?
<oliv3r>
2 mm high
<jemk>
yes, i see it on pc too
<oliv3r>
ok
<oliv3r>
sothe video is bad
<oliv3r>
i'll delete it :p
<jemk>
never trust sample media :p
<oliv3r>
:p
<oliv3r>
the rest works really well
<oliv3r>
not sure what the diff is between my sintel-hd.avi and sintel.2010.1080p.mkv though; besides 700mb diff
<oliv3r>
btw, what's needed to get osd working? i did install the osd branch
<oliv3r>
presentationtime not supported
<jemk>
presentation time is different problem, my part of osd only works with mplayer1, the bitmap part i don't know
<oliv3r>
ah ok; then i won't worry about it
<jemk>
I didn't put much time in the osd part, as it destroys other things with its current way of doing the second layer
<oliv3r>
no prob
<oliv3r>
so i should install master branch to get the most advanced stuff?
<jemk>
to do it right we need some driver integration
<jemk>
yes, master
<jemk>
some fixes are even missing in osd
<oliv3r>
rgr
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<oliv3r>
libv: where does libUMP.so come from?
<oliv3r>
ah i probably don't need it as i only need limare/lib
<oliv3r>
ok installed that; now i'm stuck :p; i think you say to install dri/? but i guess / needs to be made first
<oliv3r>
and there i need libUMP.so for; which i'm not sure yet where to get from? I did add/install the packages from packages.linux-sunxi.org
<oliv3r>
building libUMP as per binary drivers guide
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<libv>
oliv3r: it's in the email
<libv>
and no, you do not need libUMP
<oliv3r>
yeah i got libmali installed for the shader;
<oliv3r>
but then i'm a little confused
<libv>
build lima/limare/lib
<libv>
and install it
<oliv3r>
did that
<oliv3r>
that's all good
<oliv3r>
i have packages.linux-sunxi.org added as repo; so i'm guessing all mesa stuff should have come from there anyway
<libv>
ok, then you go off and ./configure, make, make install in dri/
<libv>
yes, that one dev package is only available in that repo
<oliv3r>
yeah but i can't
<oliv3r>
since there'sMakefile.am configure.ac src test
<oliv3r>
they need to be autotooled
<oliv3r>
which I guess make int he toplevel does?
<libv>
no
<libv>
autoreconf does it i think
<oliv3r>
hmm, that's not installed with build-essentials :(
<oliv3r>
autoconf is a build-essential imo
<oliv3r>
throwing some random combination of automake; aclocal still causes autoreconf to barf errors about undefined LIBTOOL's but i got a configure now
<oliv3r>
dricommon not found; that should be in the packages dir i guess
<libv>
oliv3r: that's the dev package mentioned in the email.
<oliv3r>
aye
<oliv3r>
gotta cook dinner; but i did make install in limare/lib
<oliv3r>
yet, configure: error: Limare library is missing.
<oliv3r>
and it's happily in /usr/lib/liblimare.so
<oliv3r>
after dinner, i will sort this
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<Seppoz>
oliv3r: you did you autoconf right to get the ./configure script? and in the configure you sent the cross compile options right?
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<Seppoz>
wow they are making alot of tables with the A31 now
<Seppoz>
how is the mainlining project going? havent eard anything of it in ages?
<Seppoz>
did you device to put it all in the 3-4 or is it still on?
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<ccaione>
Seppoz: still going, pretty well if you ask me
<Seppoz>
but its all with dtd right?
<ccaione>
yes
<Seppoz>
i hate dtd, cant use it
<Seppoz>
did linux generally switch to dtd?
<ccaione>
well, your problem :)
<ccaione>
for mainline you must use dt
<Seppoz>
ok
<oliv3r>
for arm, yes, for x86, you don't have to yet
<mnemoc>
found an ooooooold 40GB/2.5" drive from the dell laptop I had back in 2004 :)
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<Seppoz>
cool
<mnemoc>
DT has haters even among some key kernel devs... but there is no better solution, so DT is here to stay :\
<Seppoz>
well i find DT very strange for handling drivers
<Seppoz>
ever tried to setup something like ads1015 with dt? have fun
<mnemoc>
today I was reading some ranting and how the DT/led implementation made impossible to use pwm controlled leds and reversed values
<Seppoz>
what i hate most ist dtaht dt has th be though the whole system, including drivers
<Seppoz>
i was absolutely fine with the mach files
<Seppoz>
what was wrong about them?
<mnemoc>
multiplatform
<Seppoz>
well you just had a mach file per board
<Seppoz>
when speaking about embedde devices you alway shave fiderent systems anways
<mnemoc>
everything needs to be a driver to be able to decide things on runtime
<Seppoz>
i disagree as i dont see an advantage
<Seppoz>
either somehting is physically there ot nor
<Seppoz>
*or not
<Seppoz>
ever seen a plug and play psu for example?
<Seppoz>
or a plug and play ADC via i2c?
<Seppoz>
or a plug and play eeprom?
<Seppoz>
either its on the board or it isnt
<mnemoc>
they want to be able to use the same bin in any armv7 board
<Seppoz>
yes well happy setting up lcd via dtd
<Seppoz>
or configuring lcd drivers over dt
<Seppoz>
its gonna get a real nightmare
<Seppoz>
dont you think?
<Seppoz>
also what about old drivers?
<Seppoz>
will take twice as long to port now
<mnemoc>
I also hate that you are not allowed to detect things programatically either. you MUST trust the dtb even for things you can find out yourself... and more reliably
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<Seppoz>
i really dont know what was wrong about configuring things in the kernel and so on
<Seppoz>
who need generic kernels on embedded systems?
<mnemoc>
I told you. they want single-bin
<Seppoz>
you cant start them anyways because of the bootloader situation
<Seppoz>
so you have to dig in anways
<Seppoz>
it will never be like adding a cd and start
<mnemoc>
bootloader is expected to pass the right dtb to the generic uImage
<Seppoz>
unless they make a generic uboot lol
<mnemoc>
it makes for generic distributions...
<Seppoz>
yes no i get that
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<Seppoz>
i mean the concept is ok when its completed, but it really changes alot
<Seppoz>
also it requires porting of ALL drivers if i understoot that right
<mnemoc>
the facepalm part comes when you realize the dtb parser is too complex for been used in u-boot-spl... so you still need to hardcode the dram initialization and core pinmuxing in u-boot
<Turl>
mnemoc: you can do programatic detection on babelfish if you so desire :)
<Seppoz>
well you will never be able to have a customized bootloader so i think think it matters much
<mnemoc>
Turl: did you see the post about A20 rev B not booting with A20 rev A code?
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<Seppoz>
by the way, how do i detect the ram speed when not getting information from producer?
<Seppoz>
or basically ram settings
<Seppoz>
speaking about the witstech core boards
<Turl>
mnemoc: it was a matter of axp derp I thought? just needed a power cycle or sth
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<mnemoc>
Turl: and so a different .dtb per board AND soc revision... if you are lucky enough to know which soc rev you got
<Faisal>
anyone knows why bcmdhd creates not only wlan0, but also p2p0 and bond0 ?
<Seppoz>
i think that depends on the setup of it
<mnemoc>
tsvetan's talk conflicts with one about kernel debugging :\
<Turl>
Faisal: p2p0 is the wifi direct thing iirc
<Faisal>
Turl: it was working before with just wlan0 dont know what happened now i got those 3 devices and i cant scan wireless networks for some reason
<Seppoz>
what happens if you scan?
<Seppoz>
you have wireless tools on the device?
<Seppoz>
did you try to scna manually?
<Seppoz>
iwlist wlan0 scan
<Faisal>
cubie@Cubian:~$ iwlist wlan0 scan
<Faisal>
wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning.
<Faisal>
cubie@Cubian:~$ iwlist p2p0 scan
<Faisal>
p2p0 No scan results
<Seppoz>
cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
<Faisal>
sorry
<Faisal>
didnt do sudo
<Faisal>
working actually
<Faisal>
lol
<Seppoz>
xD
<Faisal>
well i can see the networks at least
<Faisal>
any ideas on how i can get that configured once and for all
<Faisal>
i need to it to access my AP
<Seppoz>
using wpa supplicant
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<Faisal>
isnt there a way to use /etc/network/interfaces ?
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<oliv3r>
mnemoc: wasn that old news? that mozilla was using the a31, propriatery or not
<oliv3r>
i onder if they show up to fosem again; they did a few years
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: i had no idea
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<oliv3r>
ah, lucky you!
<oliv3r>
kidna sucks big time :(
<oliv3r>
if I copy a shared so, to /usr/lib/; do i need to do anything for the linker/configure to make it find it?
<libv>
oliv3r: are you sure that your issue is not with the libtool warnings you got?
<oliv3r>
this is the AC_CHECK_LIBS(); thing
<oliv3r>
but i'll fix those too
<oliv3r>
src/Makefile.am:4: The usual way to define 'LIBTOOL' is to add 'LT_INIT'
<oliv3r>
src/Makefile.am:4: to 'configure.ac' and run 'aclocal' and 'autoconf' again.
<oliv3r>
that's what i'm missing
<oliv3r>
heh, but that's even there
<oliv3r>
i'll reinstall build-essential; though i'm 110% sure i installed them
<oliv3r>
how else did i get gcc
<libv>
oliv3r: build-essential probably does not include libtool
<oliv3r>
yeah it doesn't seem to
<oliv3r>
strange
<Faisal_>
ok guys, i now have wifi and bluetooth working on the cubietruck, next step is to get 2d acceleration, im using a cubian image r4 from the cubieboard.org website, is there a way to check if maybe this is already enabled, (i doubt it)
<oliv3r>
ok running aclocal and autoconf fixes it
<oliv3r>
well creates configure without errors
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<oliv3r>
now lets see if autoreconf runs without errors
<oliv3r>
it does not
<oliv3r>
are you sure i need to run autorecon? aclocal + autoconf seem to do the trick
<libv>
as long as you're not using glmark2-es2, it will look ok
<libv>
well, at least until ssvb fixes the buffering :p
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<oliv3r>
q[ 1691.949] (II) FBTURBO(0): enabled display controller hardware overlays for DRI2
<libv>
oliv3r: also, resizing is broken
<libv>
oliv3r: again, linked to the buffering
<oliv3r>
i'm not touching resize though
<oliv3r>
i leave it at its default 300x300
<oliv3r>
[ 1692.000] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/lima_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/dri/lima_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
<Faisal_>
Seppoz: I did what was in http://linux-sunxi.org/Binary_drivers successfully but when i run for example sunxi_disp_vsyncdemo it tell me explicitely g2d_accel=no
<Faisal_>
[ 44.089] (II) FBTURBO(0): enabled display controller hardware overlays for DRI2
<Faisal_>
i dont know what is wrong with it, but I really can tell it is not accelerated actually