clifford changed the topic of #yosys to: Yosys Open SYnthesis Suite: http://www.clifford.at/yosys/ -- Channel Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/yosys
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<az0re> what is the 'SEP' label applied to some issues in github? what does it mean?
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<az0re> s/issues/PRs/
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<qu1j0t3> interesting question, i haven't seen that. link?
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<Xark> Apparently six flavors of "labels" on Yosys (e.g.). Not sure what SEP is though... https://github.com/YosysHQ/yosys/labels
<tpb> Title: Labels · YosysHQ/yosys · GitHub (at github.com)
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<lambda> re SEP: "somebody else's problem"? ;) though doesn't really make sense in the context of pull requests
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<mwk> SEP stands for SymbioticEDA Process and is for prs that warrant a longer discussion in an all-hands meeting of yosys developers
<mwk> (which is why the list of those should be getting shorter on thursdays)
<az0re> I see, thanks
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<thardin> hi, how complete is the xilinx 7 support? enough to use the transceivers, multipliers and external RAM?
<sensille> i'm a bit perplexed: https://pastebin.com/VgFnziWB
<tpb> Title: this assigns uart[channel]: always @(*) begin: uartmux integer i; - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
<sensille> this is with verilator. am i missing some verilog quirks?
<lambda> thardin: I think all of those are still lacking in nextpnr-xilinx. I know DSP is not complete, haven't tested DRAM yet, but I think that has the highest chance of working out of those.
<thardin> lambda: hm, ok
<daveshah> litedram should work, but its a bit experimental
<daveshah> multipliers work, other DSP functions don't necessarily
<daveshah> no transceiver support at all atm
<thardin> shame. but maybe one can rig a parallel interface with the I/Os
<thardin> would it be possible to sponsor someone to take a crack at tramsceiver support?
<daveshah> If you are talking a fully open source flow, the first step would be supporting them in prjxray
<thardin> that's the RE stuff, right?
<daveshah> Indeed
<daveshah> mwk has also been doing some Xilinx RE but I don't know if she's looked at xc7 transceivers yet
<mwk> not really, but they tend to go down quickly
<mwk> it's just a bunch of attributes stored 1-1 into the bitstream
<thardin> so I imagine
<daveshah> If its anything like ecp5 the challenge is working out what those attributes actually do
<daveshah> ie making a foss replacement to the Vivado wizard or whatever
<thardin> seems the artix is a better deal than the kintex in terms of dsp/$
<mwk> *shrug* a valid way is just making a known-good template with vivado and reusing its attribute set
<tnt> sensille: if those two behave differently that look slike a verilator bug to me.
<tnt> (the only diff is the begin/end right ?)
<thardin> mwk: right, should be possible to nail down in a reasonable amount of time. I poked at installing vivado a while back, maybe I'll give it a go again
<mwk> also, note that in the meantime, yosys + Vivado P&R is a path that should be fully working
<mwk> (if you can figure out how to instantiate the transceivers, which shouldn't be that hard)
<sensille> tnt: right, begin/end changes behavior. i can't get it fully to work at all, so i'm suspecting i'm doing something wrong
<thardin> hum-hum.. if I can do multi-drop LVDS then this might just be feasible
<tnt> m-lvds is a thing but it's a bit != from lvds (termination etc ...)
<thardin> of course
<tpb> Title: GitHub - westonb/artix7-PCIe: artix-7 PCIe dev board (at github.com)
<thardin> if it can DMA in/out of some GPUs then I'm all set
<thardin> just got some replies from the HPC people, maybe I don't have to do this after all :)
<sensille> it might have been related to the signal as being inout
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<tnt> thardin: "Design has been built but prototypes were killed by JTAG ground loop due to user error." ...
<thardin> tnt: a tale as old as electronics itself
<thardin> I did some repair work on a pinball machine a while back where one of the problems was shitty grounding
<thardin> grounded in a chain, so that the voltage drop at the end was high enough that solenoid transistors would spontaneously trigger
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<sensille> any guesses what would be the best channel to ask about verilator?
<ZirconiumX> ##openfpga seems like a sensible place to ask
<ZirconiumX> I don't think it has a dedicated IRC channel
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