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<VIad>
is the theme module author here?
<VIad>
theme engine*
<frankdrey>
that would be tmobile :P
<VIad>
wonder how I could get in touch
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<Bert_>
Should promiscuous mode apps (Wifi packet sniffers, Wifinspect) work? CM 10.1 2013 10 10 on i9100 and/or p4wifi?
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<dranjah>
hi
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<dranjah>
so installed cyanogen mod 10 on my galaxy s2 and now when i call people they say i sound watery and faint. anybody had the same issue?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<dranjah>
they already sent me one s2 and the same thing happened so they sent me another and the asame thing happened but not as bad
<dranjah>
it's a T-989 btw.
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<dranjah>
help. . . anybody?
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<Jiangyi>
dranjah: Try a different radio, and also disable noise suppression
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<dranjah>
@Jiangyi can you recommend one
<bbqbot>
dranjah: Command does not exist!
<Jiangyi>
dranjah: Nope, don't have a hercules
<Jiangyi>
dranjah: Different radios work differently for different people
<Jiangyi>
Just go through them :-P
<dranjah>
<@Jiangyi> where is a good place to get one?
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<Jiangyi>
Should be floating around XDA
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<dranjah>
<@Jiangyi>also my usb won't work on the phone, when that usb icon pops up on the notification bar and then you select connect as usb and the green android turns orange, none of this will even come up now, it only says usb debugging enabled
<Jiangyi>
check settings -> storage -> menu key -> USB computer connection
<dranjah>
<@Jiangyi> ah that worked thank you
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<dranjah>
<@Jiangyi> it worked all i had to do was turn on the noise suppression
<dranjah>
<@Jiangyi>Thank you! you are a champ! a true hero of the people!!! =P
<Jiangyi>
lol np
<rhcp>
damn stuff moves fast in here :)
<rhcp>
madmack ever get anything? i missed it
<Jiangyi>
rhcp: He was building from source a while ago, check #teamhacksung
<rhcp>
oh
<rhcp>
wrong damn chan
<rhcp>
i need to move my bar on my side so it looks bigger
<rhcp>
LLOL
<rhcp>
my bad
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<ctcx>
Hello?
<Jiangyi>
hi
<ctcx>
New to CM, never installed before, I'm following this guide:
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<dranjah>
is there a way to get t-moble wifi calling for cm10?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<dranjah>
<@Jiangyi>you still on?
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<dranjah>
<@Jiangyi>is there a way to get t-moble wifi calling for cm10?
<dranjah>
???
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<Jiangyi>
dranjah: Proprietary feature, not on CM
<Kaik541>
Jiangyi: well that's not 100% true
<Kaik541>
a lot of devices support the kineto module (mostly htc ones though)
<Jiangyi>
Oops, I read that as video calling :-S
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<dranjah>
it was there on the cm9.0.0 but not 9.1.0
<Jiangyi>
I'm not very well-versed with wifi calling actually....
<Jiangyi>
Kaik541: I presume it's not the same as the internet calling option in the phone app?
<Kaik541>
nope
<Kaik541>
it's UAP or something, as opposed to SIP
<Jiangyi>
Ah ok
<dranjah>
yeah i think it's the same thing
<Kaik541>
dranjah: it's not
<dranjah>
wifi calling and internet calling?
<Kaik541>
TMO's wifi-calling (aka UMA) allows you to use your wifi connection as a signal booster for your mobile calls while internet calling (aka SIP) allows for calling through TCP/IP without necessarily even requiring a mobile telephone number, merely a data plan
<Kaik541>
basically, one uses your phone number (and also minutes on TMO for some bizarre reason) while the other uses straight data
<dranjah>
ok
<Kaik541>
theoretically SIP should be more reliable as it's tied to an account and service handler, as opposed to WiFi calling which is tied merely to a phone number
<dranjah>
have you used bobsled as an alternative? that's what some people said to do
<dranjah>
others said i need to install a different radio
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<Kaik541>
personally, I have no use for either
<Kaik541>
google voice provides all the necessary voice over internet technology I need
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<dranjah>
<@Kaik541>can people you are calling see who you are in google voice?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Kaik541>
dranjah: people see the phone number I choose to call from (which I can default to GVoice if I want, but I don't)
<Kaik541>
right now my gvoice number is private so if I ever have to get a new number
<Kaik541>
the only time I give it out is to a place that needs contact to me 24/7 and it's a local number here (my real number is based out of NC)
<dranjah>
ok
<Jiangyi>
Too bad no proper Gvoice up here in Canada :/
<Kaik541>
yeah it's unfortunate it's still US only for most people
<joethc>
its as close as we are gonna get up in canda
<joethc>
google voice
<joethc>
was dell voice now its fongo works great
<joethc>
i have it on my nexus 7 3g with calls forwarded as a workaround for now until if and when we get native gsm calls
<Jiangyi>
oh fongo's an app
<Jiangyi>
lol took me a sec there xD'
<joethc>
ya check it out ... its necessary imho..
<dranjah>
do i just get the latest one?
<Jiangyi>
Seems pretty epic :O
<joethc>
no frills that ive seen
<joethc>
which i like
<joethc>
they just want decent 911 info which is understandable and fairly vague imho
<joethc>
:D
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<joethc>
makes me wonder why google cant figure it out..
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<Frd^>
hey, anyone have problems in cm10.1 with Netflix
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<Espenfjo>
Frd^: yup, know issue, sadly
<Frd^>
yeah, just noticet it on FAQ
<Frd^>
but i dont have that black screen issue
<Frd^>
it's just downloads forever
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<Rebok>
hi i have a litlle question
<Rebok>
can a ui/framework help me?
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<Rebok>
can a ui/framework guy help me?
<cdesai>
never ask whether you can ask a question, just ask it straight away
<Yappy>
just received my xperia t! :D
<Yappy>
gonna unlock bootloader and flash cm10 now hahah
<cdesai>
stock is good too, though I did miss CM / jellybean
<Yappy>
stock is great, yeah
<Yappy>
probably one of the better ones i've seen
<Yappy>
definitely better than touchwiz :P
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<cdesai>
indeed
<iKitsune>
Is there any technical reason no one does any dev work for the Sidekick 4G, or is it just that no one owns/has ever seen one?
<cdesai>
iKitsune: it's mostly no-one with the device has bothered to do something
<cdesai>
sounds like a U.S. only device to me
<iKitsune>
It's worse, it's a T-Maybe only device
<cdesai>
ah sgs1 era
<cdesai>
too old now :p
<iKitsune>
Bah, nothing's ever too old.
<cdesai>
depends on how you view it
<cdesai>
porting 10.1 shouldn't be hard
<iKitsune>
People still develop for the Nexus One
<cdesai>
gotta port aries kernel first
* iKitsune
nods
<iKitsune>
From what I understand, the GPIO mapping is all fucked up on the SK4G
<iKitsune>
Relative to like the SGS4G
<Yappy>
unless its a hd2
<Yappy>
its probably a dying breed
<iKitsune>
Yappy: The stock rom sucks dog testicles. I'd settle for CM7, tbh.
<Yappy>
yeah
<iKitsune>
Or anything that hasn't been TouchWizzed all over.
<Yappy>
:P
<iKitsune>
they somehow made TouchWiz worse for the SK4G.
<iKitsune>
So what all would be involved in porting the aries kernel?
<bbqbot>
derp
<iKitsune>
I've done low-level work on microcontroller-based stuff before, but never anything running Linux.
<cdesai>
diff stock kernel sources with aries
<cdesai>
same version
<cdesai>
aka if froyo, grab aries froyo sources
<cdesai>
stock
* iKitsune
nods
<iKitsune>
The only stock source for it is froyo. What would be involved in porting GB or newer to the device?
<cdesai>
take a look at android_device_samsung_aries-common
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* iKitsune
nods
<cdesai>
and android_device_samsung_galaxysmtd/captivatemtd/other vartians
<cdesai>
*variants
<iKitsune>
I miss my Captivate.
<iKitsune>
Anyway. What I'm taking away is I should start by looking at what's the same and what's different between this and, say, a Captivate.
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<iKitsune>
or a SGS4G.
<cdesai>
i don't remember sgs4g being officially supported
<cdesai>
so i'ld go for cappy/i9000
<iKitsune>
Alright
<iKitsune>
Maybe Samsung did something nifty and the keyboard is wired up the same as the Epic.
<iKitsune>
But this *is* Samsung after all.
<iKitsune>
In the meantime, though, it'd be pretty straightforward to build CM6.x for this device, just based on the kernel source I have?
<iKitsune>
I just feel like I'm missing something, because if it was as simple as "diff stock kernel sources with aries" and build, I'd think someone would've done it before.
<cdesai>
well you're moving from 2.6.32 to 3.0
<iKitsune>
All the ROMs on XDA are repacks of the stock Samsung ROM
<cdesai>
but still it should be easy
<cdesai>
aries is pretty well-supported
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<cdesai>
due to crespo
<cdesai>
nexus <3
* iKitsune
nods
<iKitsune>
I have a Crespo
<cdesai>
exynos(odd) <3
<iKitsune>
I hadn't planned on having a SK4G, but I got it at Goodwill for $5
<iKitsune>
and other than being beat the hell up, it works fine
<Rebok>
can a ui/framework guy help me?
<cdesai>
<Rebok> can a ui/framework guy help me?
<cdesai>
<cdesai> never ask whether you can ask a question, just ask it straight away
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<iKitsune>
oh for crying out loud, someone on XDA already even has a device tree for the damn thing
<iKitsune>
but the link to download it is still in the second post
<cdesai>
y he no github
<iKitsune>
glad someone quoted the download link
* iKitsune
shrugs
<cdesai>
i guess it's probably a tarball
<cdesai>
yea saw the quote
<Rebok>
oki
<iKitsune>
so yeah
<iKitsune>
I guess I know what I'm doing on my days off work this week
<iKitsune>
I hope my computer's powerful enough to build Android in under a week. :P
<Rebok>
i want to modify in_call_touch_ui and there is some prvandroid
<Rebok>
what does that means?
<Rebok>
if i want to add a new prvandroid where do i need to add that prv
<Rebok>
?
<bbqbot>
derp
<iKitsune>
Is there any way of telling without building and flashing how complete/correct this kid's device tree is?
<cdesai>
compare it with the others
* iKitsune
nods
<cdesai>
it's the kenrel that needs work at this stage, since a lot of stuff is common and that is done
<iKitsune>
Alrigh
<iKitsune>
Alright*
<cdesai>
*kernel
<iKitsune>
I'll probably screw with it more on my days off.
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<iKitsune>
if I'm going to have a functional day at work, I need to be in bed before long, and I'm getting to the point where I'm running the risk of being up all night hacking on this.
<iKitsune>
Huh.
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<iKitsune>
There's a file in the kid's device tree labeled as a kernel.
<iKitsune>
all the other stuff is dated 12/26, the kernel is dated 3/15
<cdesai>
ask him for source
<cdesai>
GPL
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<iKitsune>
I'll give it a shot, but this is an idiot kid with a temper problem on XDA. I'm likely not to get it. >.<
<iKitsune>
but that the link is still up is an accident
<iKitsune>
and he seems to have "taken his ball and gone home" as it were
<iKitsune>
I'll send him a PM though
<iKitsune>
I bet you five bucks, though, that it's the stock kernel off a running Froyo install.
<iKitsune>
Is it possible to run Gingerbread with a Froyo kernel?
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<iKitsune>
or is this just asking for pain and heartbreak?
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<cdesai>
dunno iKitsune, i started on ics
* iKitsune
nods
<iKitsune>
I just don't think I have the requisite skills to port this little guy to ICS or higher.
<cdesai>
it's always a good time to learn
<cdesai>
and I started on ics means i started developing during ics time :)
<Rebok>
so can u give as a little help ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<iKitsune>
My programming ability is somewhat lacking.
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<Rebok>
so can u give us (noobs) a little help ?
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<iKitsune>
I've got a good grasp of the basics, and I've worked with microcontrollers, but this device's ROM is an order of magnitude larger than anything I've ever worked with
<iKitsune>
I'm honestly intimidated.
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<iKitsune>
How hard is it to inadvertently overwrite download mode on a Samsung device? ;)
<iKitsune>
I'll feel more adveturous if I know it's hard to permanently destroy the device.
<cdesai>
sbl has it
<cdesai>
but considering the fact that an unbrickable mod does exist for most if all devices of that gen, i'ld say it's pretty hard
<iKitsune>
ok
<iKitsune>
cool
<Diftraku>
USB jig ftw
<cdesai>
i've messed a lot with my tab(p1000, sgs with a big screen), but have always been able to get it in download mode
<cdesai>
Diftraku: jig can't do many things
<cdesai>
jig != JTAG
<Diftraku>
Yeah, JTAG is the god mode
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<cdesai>
it isn't a "mode"
<iKitsune>
i have a lpt jtag cable
<Diftraku>
cdesai: Damn right it is! :e
<Diftraku>
*3
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<iKitsune>
So, realistically, how well do the first gen SGS devices run CM10/10.1?
<iKitsune>
is it going to be a useable device if I put the work in to get CM10 on it?
<iKitsune>
or is it going to be like a Dream running CM7
<iKitsune>
I am worried that the internal flash on the SK4G is only 1 GB, that doesn't leave much room for /data
<iKitsune>
IIRC CM10+gapps is around 450-500 mb
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<Shepy>
Morning all. Dont support anyone has any workarounds for the bluetooth stuttering in 4.2.1 ?
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<VIad>
when google releases a new android build, is the cm10.1 going to be directly updated, or does the software have to be adapted to the S2 9100 phone? wondering if the software is made to work on all phones or only the latest, atm it seems that CM is like a layer in between to make it compatible with your phone, but am I right?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<angelsl>
VIad: no
<angelsl>
..technically that would be very wrong
<angelsl>
CM is.. essentially a fork of AOSP that adds more features and also support for more devices than AOSP
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<VIad>
when AOSP has a new version, what happens?
<VIad>
is it a nighmare to carry over the new fixes and such?
<angelsl>
i'm not sure on this but
<angelsl>
i think they port features from previous CM versions to the AOSP version
<EgoElf>
some patches are simply point releases
<EgoElf>
and merge over in just a few minutes
<angelsl>
for device support that would mean getting the drivers/hal to work with whatever new capabilities the version has
<EgoElf>
some like 4.1, 4.2.1, etc have to be recoded
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<VIad>
the gallery missing settings, is it a "recorded" thing or a bug in the original app?
<VIad>
just curious if there is a "todo" list :P
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<mjt>
speaking of sw updates -- will it be possible to install samsung original firmware to a rooted device using kies? In-device updater refuses to run saying the device is modified...
<anon123>
If I'm installing CM for the first time, do I need to be rooted? I know I need to flash a custom recovery first, but I'm unsure about whether root is necessary.
<imneveral0ne>
yes
<imneveral0ne>
you need to be rooted
<anon123>
Alright! Nice and simple, thank you!
<imneveral0ne>
god speed
<anon123>
One more question, if you'd oblige. Could I just flash a kernel like Siyah to obtain root?
<VIad>
obtaining root is much easier than you think
<imneveral0ne>
can't answer that, since I don't really know your phone lol
<anon123>
SGS2
<anon123>
sorry :/
<VIad>
you can root without flashing or anything
<anon123>
Superoneclick?
<bbqbot>
derp
<VIad>
trying to remember how I did it some weeks ago, before I decided to install CM myself
<VIad>
I used a CWM that ran in the memory only, then I ran the superuser script, and at reboot it was back to stock everything - but in your case, you probably wanna install CWM - my S2 version had a kernel that could brick the device if using the factory reset :P
<VIad>
according to the wiki for CM that is
<anon123>
What's to say mine doesn't have the superbrick bug? It's totally stock ICS with stock everything.
<mjt>
imneveral0ne: why root is needed?
<mjt>
imneveral0ne: i flashed CM10.1 to my SGN2 without rooting it first
<anon123>
This is what I suspected. CM kernel comes pre-rooted no?
<mjt>
does CM comes with kernel?
<anon123>
Yes
<VIad>
you use i9100?
<anon123>
i9100 yes.
<mjt>
ok. build for N7100 does not include kernel.
<anon123>
AFAIK, CM is always bundled with a kernel. You say N7100 doesn't come with one?
<VIad>
there are different wikis :P
<VIad>
the one I found was a bit watered down technically
<imneveral0ne>
mjt, you have cm10.1 but you're not rooted?
<mjt>
i used cm-10.1-20130112-NIGHTLY-n7100.zip - I don't see kernel in there
<mjt>
imneveral0ne: yes
<imneveral0ne>
do you have the superuser app installed on your phone?
<mjt>
imneveral0ne: well, there was no root in original sf
<mjt>
fw
<mjt>
now i have
<imneveral0ne>
then you're rooted
<mjt>
i just replaced the recovery rom and flashed cm from there
<mjt>
no rooting before that
<mjt>
the trick was to not let the phone to boot after replacing recovery
<mjt>
since original fw always re-flashes recovery back
<mjt>
but root weren't needed
<mjt>
anon123: i stand corrected. I guess the kernel is in boot.img, so cm actually comes with the kernel
<mjt>
anon123: but it is the same as in stock firmware in this case.
<mjt>
anon123: (that's why i thought it didn't touch kernel, I guess :)
<anon123>
Ok (y)
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<angelsl>
it's not the kernel that provides root, it's the presence of an appropriate su binary
<angelsl>
that has setuid bit set
<mjt>
sure
<VIad>
are the usb jig thingies safe to remove the triangle?
<VIad>
asking before I stick the one I bought into my phone :P
<mjt>
which triangle is that, btw?
<VIad>
samsung S2 shows a triangle when you use odin to flash
<VIad>
it counts the flashes :P
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<angelsl>
VIad: it is, but i use triangleaway now
<VIad>
it costed more than it costed me to buy the usb jig from china :P
<VIad>
(google play that is)
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<angelsl>
get it from XDA..
<VIad>
but I am curious if you can short the usb connection and break the phone :P
<angelsl>
probably not
<VIad>
don't know, software fix versus a hardware fix, I prefer the hardware one, but just trying to ask someone if it's smart to rely on the hardware fix with this thingy :P
<angelsl>
it does the same thing essentially
<angelsl>
the usbjig just makes the bootloader (i assume) do it instead of something in userspace
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<VIad>
like formatting your machine, clearing everything, is it possible to do the same with your phone?
<angelsl>
although, we don't know if the bootloader resets/changes other things
<angelsl>
not really
<mjt>
VIad: i asked "what's triangle" because my SGN2 does not show any triangles anywhere (so far), but it counts the flashes too
<VIad>
just to have asked, firmware is hardware related and you must use odin to access it, alterit and such right?
<bbqbot>
derp
<VIad>
(bbqbot is just annoying, why is he here spamming?)
<VIad>
just tring to find out how the phone work really
<VIad>
firmware, the kernel, the OS where these are stored
<angelsl>
"firmware"?
<VIad>
isn't the firmware the layer between the hardware and the software, no?
<angelsl>
err.. not really
<angelsl>
firmware is a very vague term
<QuinnLion>
We think of firmware as the rom. as it's supposed to be on non-writable NAND
<VIad>
ROM is kernel and the OS?
<QuinnLion>
But you arent wrong, regarding firmware as a layer between software and hardware, like WLAN firmware :P
<QuinnLion>
Rignt
<QuinnLion>
Right
<VIad>
kernel is the hardware and software connection layer?
<mjt>
it really is a vague term, highly depends on the context
<QuinnLion>
Kernel is a blob of drivers and whatnot
<mjt>
PC bios is a firmware too
<QuinnLion>
what mjt said
<QuinnLion>
:P
<mjt>
and you can flash linux into the bios too (and many vendors do that)
<VIad>
is the phone memory like a usb stick of memory?
<angelsl>
kernel is what lets everything happen, it's what sits between the android framework and the hardware itself
<QuinnLion>
EFI is a firmware too
<angelsl>
in some ways
<VIad>
isn't it possible to back it up and restore it?
<bbqbot>
derp
<QuinnLion>
VIad, yes, most modern devices are essetially stored on eMMC which acts like an SDcard
<angelsl>
technically yes, VIad
<VIad>
I mean, is it possible to do a image of this storage to restore the phone back to an earlier state?
<mjt>
ye it is possible
<QuinnLion>
what you speak of requires a little more low-level access which most of us dont have, but for all intents and porposes, using nandroid works fine for backup porposes
<VIad>
but it wouldn't affect changes made by odin, or does odin just write to the same storage?
<QuinnLion>
purposes*
<angelsl>
QuinnLion: i think dd from the appropriate /dev/mmc* device should work
<angelsl>
whether it's safe or not is another issue..
<mjt>
CWM recovery can be modified trivially to perform bit-to-bit dump/restore of various partitions
<QuinnLion>
(As I see the eMMC chip on my p5113, the 'partitions' are files on the same chip. bootloader boots srom them, etc.
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<QuinnLion>
angelsl, yeah, methinks it could but I dont think android has access too all of that.
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<angelsl>
it does, that's how the kernel mounts the filesystems
<QuinnLion>
Like you couldnt flash the hboot from within android.
<QuinnLion>
On HTC devices
<angelsl>
oh, then probably not
<angelsl>
on SAMSUNG devices the NAND is pretty much fully accessible i think
<mjt>
some areas are restricted, but you don't write to them normally too, so no need to backup/restore them
<VIad>
I am curious, when talking about different vendors
<VIad>
don't all the vendors use the official android as a base?
<QuinnLion>
eg: partitions that arent needed by android may not be accessible. as for phones I dont think radio stuff is accessable
<QuinnLion>
VIad, yes, or atlast they should, but they all make changes to it.
<angelsl>
i think the RIL is stored elsewhere, i'm probably wrong
<VIad>
is it possible to make a dependency chart of an apk file? i.e. what libraries it requires and such
<QuinnLion>
Like, the Kindle Fire HD. it uses android but you'd be fooled, it doesnt act like t
<QuinnLion>
RIL is stored on radio chip
<QuinnLion>
Only accessible from bootloader/odin maybe?
<VIad>
because I wonder why you can't do that with, let's say, stock apps from different vendors, and copy those files and make installation packages, so everyone can use stock apps on their phones as it would also install any missing libraries from these vendors
<mjt>
heh
<QuinnLion>
VIad, when you install an app that doesnt have its dependencies avbailable, it will fail and stuff
<VIad>
for instance the Memo app from Samsung is something I love, I got one from xda, but shame I couldn't just use some tool to copy the required files from my own backup image :P
<VIad>
exactly
<QuinnLion>
you'd have to port vendor frameworks
<QuinnLion>
and that's all proprietary
<VIad>
isn't it all files?
<VIad>
or must the .so files be compiled from that specific phone to work?
<bbqbot>
derp
<mjt>
everything is a sequince of bits anyway :)
<QuinnLion>
It's not just kernel modules :o
<angelsl>
mjt: infinite monkeys theorem
<QuinnLion>
^
<VIad>
system app/lib/framework
<QuinnLion>
Think Barrel of Monkeys
<QuinnLion>
all the mokeys hooking together
<angelsl>
QuinnLion: .so isn't a kernel module :p
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<QuinnLion>
</3 Blur, TouchWiz, Sense
<VIad>
sadly I am not familiar with the monkey theorem
<QuinnLion>
angelsl, what is it?
<QuinnLion>
other than drivers
<angelsl>
shared object
<VIad>
it's like dll files
<angelsl>
.ko would be a kernel module
<QuinnLion>
^
<VIad>
linux version of dlls isn't it?
<QuinnLion>
basically
<angelsl>
in essence i guess, VIad
<QuinnLion>
lol VXD
<QuinnLion>
Dont mind me. I've been up for 20 Hours D;
<VIad>
if I take my old phone system folder and put all missing files into my current cm10.1 installation
<VIad>
will it be enough to run the stock apps again?
<angelsl>
it probably will break
<QuinnLion>
Cant sleep. Boyfriend will kill me if I dont go to the gym with him after work
<VIad>
I said not overwrite and only fill in the blanks :P
<angelsl>
cm10.1 renames some (actually a lot of) files
<angelsl>
good luck with that :p
<angelsl>
you could try though
<VIad>
let me explain
<QuinnLion>
Only way to find out is try, most that could happen is that you'd get LOTS of ANRs and bootloops
<VIad>
I copy files that do not exist on my cm
<angelsl>
i'm quite sure that you'll need to replace frameworks-base though
<VIad>
talking about the app/lib/framework folders
<QuinnLion>
Stock usually depends on *-framework
<mjt>
which files it renames? I'd like to go back from cm to stock (from 4.2 to 4.1) but 4.2 created 0/ folder and CWM restore didn't move files from it back to root, resulting in a huge mess...
<angelsl>
to get touchwiz to work
<VIad>
hmm
<angelsl>
mjt: wipe system and reflash?
<QuinnLion>
mjt, I wiped and told it to wipe "sdcard" too
<QuinnLion>
I'm back on 4.2 now
<QuinnLion>
no looking back
<QuinnLion>
I wish bluetooth wasnt broken on my Vision
<VIad>
fyi I like touchwiz
<angelsl>
:|
<mjt>
i replaced TW with nova launcher on my note2, battery life improved alot
<QuinnLion>
:P
<VIad>
it puts icons to the menus, and keeps it a bit colorful by having nice colors, and the apps share the same theme, phone, contacts, messages, clock, calendar, e.g.
* QuinnLion
prefers AOSP UX
<VIad>
I don't understand why the default android project apps are so, different visually wise
<angelsl>
they.. aren't?
<angelsl>
especially not after 4.0
<VIad>
look at phone when running cm10.1
<VIad>
it's black, I like
* QuinnLion
beleives all vendors are trying to Mimic iOS
<VIad>
but look at contacts, messages, then you have gray apps
<VIad>
not even an option to turn their theme black
<QuinnLion>
We used to have Contacts.apk modded by Wysie.. that stopped at ICS
<VIad>
I just feel that all apps should fallback to the system theme, visual looks, not force their own upon the user
<VIad>
google calendar looks horrible
<VIad>
I loved the stock samsung one :(
<QuinnLion>
GB being the last version to have modded MMS and COntacts
<VIad>
not to mention "patch files within .jar and .apk files on the phone
<QuinnLion>
yep
<QuinnLion>
thats what it does
<QuinnLion>
replaces resources
<VIad>
I mean why don't android have a theme system implemented?
<VIad>
it's like design rule 101
<VIad>
make the user be able to theme their visual experience
<QuinnLion>
heh
<VIad>
change icons, colors, backgrounds, foregrounds, sizes, DPI, e.g.
<VIad>
they expect everyone to be slaves to what they say is how the phone must look
<QuinnLion>
just becasue s40/s60 has themes, doesnt mean android is gonna D:
<VIad>
I love google functionality wise
<QuinnLion>
I wish it were that simple
<VIad>
but google sucks at allowing visual customizations like themes :P
* QuinnLion
<3d themes on his lickle 7510ab
<VIad>
using a script on youtube to make the website dark
<VIad>
made it myself :P
<angelsl>
now do it with android! VIad
<VIad>
"most of our users watch youtube, chances are it's dark in the room, let's make the screen WHITE and a small black box in the middle -that must be pleasant to watch!"
<angelsl>
most people watch youtube on fullscreen..
<VIad>
we all love a glowing white color with black text on the top, mmm
<QuinnLion>
lol
<angelsl>
s/on/in/
<VIad>
between movies you'd get flashed with white color, triggering your epilespy fit
* QuinnLion
loves it when his roomates blast shitty, low bandwidth music from youtube
<VIad>
sorry for critisism but I see so much room for improvement!
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<VIad>
I just hate it that I am too new at this so I can't code anything either, not to mention it looks like the framework itself isn't made to allow themes
<VIad>
I suspect cm theme engine is a ton of code just to allow this
<VIad>
I appreciate the work
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<VIad>
but still room for more improvements :)
<QuinnLion>
methinks it replaces assets
<QuinnLion>
or hotlinks to others
<VIad>
I don't think it changes the original files
<QuinnLion>
no
<QuinnLion>
It doesnt
<VIad>
it only loads other ressources
<VIad>
"load x.xml" then it goes trough the theme engine and it say "no I use a theme that wants to load y.xml"
<VIad>
and such
<VIad>
if you apply this waterfall effect, you could have a priority list of themes
<VIad>
contact would only contain the contact app theme then touchwiz theme is a big theme but not complete, missing theme for some stuff, so the contact theme helps out by theming what is missing without altering the default touchwiz theme files
<VIad>
because themes on google play are updated automatically, it's not wise to hack and edit their compiled files to fill in what is missing :P
<VIad>
instead having the ability to make partial theme apk files to skin different apps, much better
<angelsl>
actually, now that i think about it
* mjt
hates phone/contact app in his note2 due to its delays switching between several "tabs" (phone keyboard/addressbook)
<angelsl>
it doesn't /seem/ very hard to implement
<VIad>
depends if the apk contain binary
<VIad>
overwrites
<angelsl>
it'd (Tmo engine) just need some modifications
<VIad>
if it's only xml and images
<angelsl>
nah, theme apks have no binaries
<VIad>
so it might just be a zip
<QuinnLion>
mjt, thats why I want another device with a keyboard
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<cdesai>
sony has something for this
<cdesai>
which is open
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<cdesai>
runtime resource overlay
<VIad>
I'd love to help code this but lol I can't manage to find where everything is on the git :P
<cdesai>
code for framework overlays is in AOSP/CM already
<VIad>
like 100 projects that together make the CM platform :P
<cdesai>
for apps - on AOSP/CM gerrit
<cdesai>
more
<cdesai>
more projects i mean
<cdesai>
what you want is choosing what to theme
<VIad>
here is an idea
<VIad>
first let me ask, does the theme engine pass files onto the system regarding icons, xml files, e.g.?
<cdesai>
i'm not familiar enough with t-mo's engine :(
<cdesai>
but i will check
<VIad>
or does it only say "load this apk file" because then it's a bit hard
<angelsl>
VIad: read the source perhaps?
<cdesai>
don't have much time now but i'll link you the code for it
<VIad>
as I mentioned I don't know where everything is on git
<VIad>
like 100 projects :P
<cdesai>
2 mins
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<VIad>
so many different stuff that make up the CM
<VIad>
but why didn't google make android have native theme engine too? :P
<QuinnLion>
Becasue it isnt a priority?
<VIad>
it's actually their job as the OS to have these available
<QuinnLion>
iOS doesnt have themes
<VIad>
but apple is the symbol of no customization and doing what they let you do
<QuinnLion>
:3
<VIad>
android stands for freedom of choice
<datagutt>
cdesai: chaos > tmobile theme engine
<QuinnLion>
and you cant cater to everyone
<VIad>
I am a PC guy, or linux, just let me do what I want, don't have the OS limit me :P
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<QuinnLion>
ntkernel here is hacked up to shit
<VIad>
no themes is a huge limitation when it's a product you rely on looking at all the time :P that's why I think it's bad of android team to have ignored themes
<VIad>
i.e. someone that only eats microwave food is a professional?
<datagutt>
and the vid
<datagutt>
hahaha wtf
<VIad>
Ill watch
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<VIad>
hahaha lol I got a s2 and he broke a s3 just for fun I am so happy
<jose___>
buenas
<datagutt>
"Yes 9604simon. I am for REAL and what you see is what you will get which is having the rare opportunity to own a one of kind sign & dated professionally microwaved Samsung Galaxy S3 shipped & delivered directly to your door. It's had to believe you are actually seeing such quality but it's 100% REAL and NOT a mirage of your imagination."
<QuinnLion>
I'm listening to "I'm On A Boat" by The Lonely Island on Pandora
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<VIad>
why does themes have to be apk files? do they have to be installable? can't I place the theme apk in a folder "Themes" on my sdcard or internal memory? :<
<VIad>
apk/zip since apk is zip basically :P
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<mahendra_k_>
hi i have samsung galaxy s i9000 running cm-10.1-nightly-20030112 build and i am having problem sending mms. can anyone please help me.
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<addi>
mahendra_k_, do you have the necessary settings for MMS on the phone?
<mahendra_k_>
yes i have the packet data and mms settings properly set
<addi>
VIad, it's probably just done to make it simple to use. download APK, install, and that's it.
<mahendra_k_>
when i enter the settings manually in gosms pro and send through gosms it works but not with stock messaging app
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<Keatsan>
test
<QuinnLion>
nope
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<Keatsan>
is there a link to just download cm 10.1 kernel?
<QuinnLion>
no
<QuinnLion>
you can extract it from the zip package
<mjt>
where it is in there?
<mjt>
which file that is
<QuinnLion>
boot.img?
<Keatsan>
what about those from aroma installer rom type
<QuinnLion>
dunno what to tell ya
<mjt>
i asked about this file in #cyanogenmod, said i suspect it is the kernel, but they replied it is "candy with lots of pepper" so... ;)
<QuinnLion>
Look around for yourself
<Keatsan>
alright. gotta poke around then ><
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<Keatsan>
having issues with kernel lately. phones starts to lag and freeze when using randomly
<mjt>
maybe it's some rogue app, not the kernel?
<bbqbot>
derp
<ctlaltdefeat>
hello, which CM version is preferable atm for a galaxy s2? is cm9 worth flashing since it's more stable?
<Keatsan>
been trying to figure out which app, but been running all kind of apps and it does hangs randomly.
<Keatsan>
here's the symptoms, whenever it hangs..i access my Stweaks settings, and try to restore. but voila, that settings which i've backed up earlier all gone just like that.
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<lim_>
hello
<lim_>
can i asking for root?
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<lim_>
because my samsung galaxy s2 cannot flash the jb 4.2.1
<ctlaltdefeat>
hello, which CM version is preferable atm for a galaxy s2? is cm9 worth flashing since it's more stable?
<lim_>
who to take ics bootloader ?
<lim_>
how
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<VIad>
addi: ye, just nice when developing not having to install, but then again it's a bit helpful with eclipse as it autoinstalls too :P /yes I was away
<VIad>
trebuchet and apollo can hang if I swap themes fyi
<VIad>
I think I had to reset the app config to fix it :(
<VIad>
not swapping too many themes since lol, don't wanna have to reconfigure each time :P
<addi>
I personally use an AOSP ROM, so no themes for me anyway :P
<VIad>
not using cm?
<addi>
nope
<VIad>
it has awesome battery longlivity
<VIad>
my stock samsung S2 drained in 2 days with low usage
<addi>
official CM has caused Android OS drain for me the last two times I've tried it, and I've seen that AOSP ROMs run the fastest, at least for me
<VIad>
can last up to a week now :D
<addi>
but then again, I have a Galaxy Nexus, so performance isn't really a goal of custom ROMs :P
<VIad>
I beg to differ ;D
<VIad>
both performance and battery saving modes are highly wanted by all hackers of roms :D
<addi>
not really, you feel that difference mostly when you go from a bloated stock ROM to CM/AOSP based ROMs
<VIad>
I wonder why they must bloat their roms :(
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<VIad>
it reduces their battery, why want your users to have and charge more? :(
<addi>
er, no, battery isn't reduced by bloat, mainly the performance is. my Galaxy S1 had great battery on both stock and CM
<addi>
your S2 must be faulty :P
<VIad>
I said with CM it lasts a week with low usage
<VIad>
i.e. just calling, receiving calls, sms, e.g.
<VIad>
no gaming or having the screen on too long
<addi>
I don't see why stock doesn't last long for you then
<VIad>
shrug
<addi>
I've personally not seen battery life improvements with CM/AOSP on 4 devices I've owned
<addi>
does your S2 have higher idle drain on stock?
<bbqbot>
derp
<VIad>
probably addi, using cm now :P
<VIad>
hard to compare :D
<VIad>
can I bug my phone if I play with themes and apply a bad theme?
<addi>
bug as in make it stop booting up? :P
<VIad>
ye
<VIad>
making me unable to go back to default theme :P
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<VIad>
or like trebuchet or appolo, I had t oreset their settings otherwise they kept crashing
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<VIad>
it happens sometimes when I apply a theme that has "missing files" thingy
<VIad>
systemui.apk
<VIad>
do I decompile that and remake the apk and I got my theme? :P
<addi>
applying a theme does what exactly? does it change the framework files permanently? if not, not going to cause a brick
<addi>
as to how you make your themes, I have no idea :P
<VIad>
as I understood from earlier it doesn't
<addi>
afaik the framework can't be changed since the theme is an app after all, so yeah, will always boot
<addi>
of course, if systemui messes up, you might lose your status bar :P
<VIad>
no the theme is just packaged in apk, not an app
<VIad>
:3
<addi>
so what happens when it installs?
<addi>
don't worry, you can open theme chooser, set default theme, which will restart the system UI, or you can restart phone to do so
<VIad>
I think it has some metadata and the theme loader will recognize it as a theme
<addi>
so it's basically making some temporary changes to change the appearance without touching the framework? confusing :P
<VIad>
it doesn't change the files, only affects what is loaded
<ctlaltdefeat>
no one has advice as to which CM version is advisable for galaxy s ii ? :(
<VIad>
of xml files
<bbqbot>
derp
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<VIad>
I use CM10.1 ctlaltdefeat but I am a newbie like you :P
<addi>
oh, okay. then no, no worries of bricking IMO
<VIad>
I think the CM7 is the last "stable" ROM for g2 no?
<ctlaltdefeat>
viad does it have major bugs?
<VIad>
so I think I read
<addi>
ctlaltdefeat, CM7/CM9 should have least bugs
<QuinnLion>
VIad, I'm using andromadus Mimicry on my g2 no issues ;3
<addi>
why don't you give each ROM a try? :)
<addi>
or try what QuinnLion is using :P
<VIad>
I hate that all my messages reset
<VIad>
and all my memo files too
<QuinnLion>
Android 4.0.4
<VIad>
when I changed rom I lost these :(
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<QuinnLion>
Titanium Backup
<ctlaltdefeat>
I kind of have a limit to how much time I'm uselessly spending on my phone :)
<addi>
well, if you're wanting to use custom ROMs, you'll have to take a little time out to find out what works best for you
<addi>
otherwise sticking to stock ROMs is the best idea
<VIad>
unless it drains too quick and it makes you angry, like me :P
<VIad>
2 days batteries is not my thing ;D
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<Bert_>
I would take a 2 day battery any day! I barely get a day (morning to evening) out of my i9100.
<VIad>
I am not a smartphone geek
<VIad>
I can have it in my pocket all day and not fiddle with it :P
<VIad>
two days out of that is too little ;)
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<a-st>
Hm.
<addi>
VIad, I think your idle drain may be a bit too high, probably should have tried another modem :P
<VIad>
I tried CM and so far happy
<Bert_>
I you do not smell it, of what use is a rose of any other name?
<VIad>
the only annoyance is the lack of uniform themes :P
<VIad>
meaning different apps use different visuals by the stock android :P
<VIad>
that's why I made such a big deal out of the theme system in here earlier :P
<Bert_>
yeah, CM rocks, 4.2.1 rocks. I will NEVER go back to any skinned phone. NEVER!
<addi>
stock Android's visuals suck anyway :P
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<VIad>
I like touchwiz from samsung
<addi>
so be sure to stay in those apps for the best visuals xD
<VIad>
looks very nice imo ;) dark
<addi>
it looks like a cartoon to me
<VIad>
sadly I can't copy over the stock phone, contacts, calendar, messages, over :P
<Yappy>
Entropy512, are you aware of the Xperia T's screen going dim then back to normal brightness at times? This is in CM10.
<a-st>
Is the AMOLED screen burn a warranty thing?
<addi>
though not the TouchWiz on SGS2, only the new Nature TouchWiz looks truly like a cartoon
<VIad>
let the user decide what they wanna look at, it's not the developers responsibility :P
<addi>
those stock apps won't be any unique for Samsung if they were easily portable to AOSP/other ROMs :p
<VIad>
a little work on the theme engine would do wonders in the customizing community
<VIad>
yeah
<VIad>
I got a stock memo ported over
<VIad>
someone hacked it to work :D
<addi>
and really, you should look at the Messaging app on the SGS3. really, really ugly
<VIad>
I dislike the S3 calendar too
<VIad>
I prefer the old S2 style, looks very similar to my N78 nokia xD
<addi>
N78? I have an N79 lying around. one of the best smartphones ever for me ^^
<bbqbot>
derp
<VIad>
all calendar apps on the store are fuggly
<VIad>
I don't think mine was a smartphone lol
<addi>
why not? because it didn't have many apps? ^^
<VIad>
no touchscreen
<VIad>
smartphone = touchscreen no?
<addi>
uh, no
<VIad>
keyboard and no touchscreen it's just ap hone
<addi>
smartphone = a phone running an OS that can do more than what a feature phone can do
<VIad>
strickly speaking yes
<Bert_>
addi, yeah, I still miss my 6301. Tough as nails, and 7 days battery!
<VIad>
I think my N78 could last a month
<addi>
and you can't beat Symbian's multitasking
<VIad>
no joke :P
<addi>
multitasking is what I count as one of the important points to be a smartphone OS
<addi>
yeah, don't use it and those Nokia phones never go out of battery :P
<VIad>
btw new calendar from google
<VIad>
it doesn't show contact birthdays by default
<VIad>
seriously?
<VIad>
the stock android apps are in many ways a downgrade from what I am used with from S2
<VIad>
it'
<VIad>
it's really lame
<addi>
VIad, Symbian was a smartphone OS, Windows Mobile and BlackBerry 7 too, it's just that Apple changed the definition of smartphone to a device that has stupid limitations, no multitasking, and just a lot of apps
<VIad>
to be fair our samsungs have multitasking
<addi>
the new definition of smartphone has come around since idiots and noobs moved on from feature phones
<addi>
which Samsungs? :P
<VIad>
probably all? at least S2
<VIad>
I only got S2 :P
<addi>
you should say Android, not Samsungs xD
<VIad>
aye
<VIad>
I should say symbian and not nokia too :P
<addi>
as for stock Android apps being a downgrade, then yes, AOSP is a downgrade in features and some useful things from any skinned interface
<addi>
yes, I was saying Symbian :P
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<addi>
Google I'm afraid focuses on some major things and leaves it to manufacturers to add features on top
<VIad>
is it too hard to copy the samsung files over to my CM10.1? :(
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<VIad>
need a dependency tool to read from my backup file of my stock, let me decide what apps I wish to copy over to CM10.1 and let me do it xD
<addi>
Samsung's apps are integrated into the TouchWiz framework afaik
<VIad>
it's just a file
<addi>
so you can't easily make them not be dependent on TouchWiz
<VIad>
the framework is just jar files no?
<bbqbot>
derp
<VIad>
no, I can bring touchwiz over :P
<addi>
yes, you could make them run without TouchWiz, but it's not that simple for the core apps
<VIad>
is it a big issue making touchwiz run on CM?
<VIad>
touchwiz is just jar/apk/so files
<addi>
too much work involved = no one has tried, that's what they said back in 2011 when I had a Galaxy S :P
<VIad>
the only issue is there are no good dependency tools I reckon
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<VIad>
on windows you got the tool to scan a program or dll and tell you what it depends on :P
<addi>
yes, they're customized by Samsung, and you don't exactly have tools to port them over
<VIad>
if we had the same for apk and such, we could check what files the apk depends upon and make sure we take all dependencies with us
<VIad>
unless samsung changed a lot of android sources that is
<addi>
believe me, if it was possible, people would have ported them over.
<VIad>
can I install symbian on my phone? lol
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<VIad>
no touchscreen but damn good apps
<addi>
nah, no source :P
<VIad>
it has memo, good calendars :P
<VIad>
stock android has no memo
<addi>
Symbian is one of the most feature complete OS, yes. iOS and even Android or WP don;t compare
<VIad>
s2 and s3 one looks nice :P
<VIad>
shame nokia sold to am$
<VIad>
m
<addi>
but that was because Symbian has few third-party apps, so they focused on putting everything themselves
<VIad>
m$
<VIad>
now nokia is windows phones :P
<addi>
Apple, Google etc leave it to third-party apps
<a3Dman>
wasn't symbain supposed to be opensourced by now?
<addi>
a disadvantage in this day since third-party apps became really important
<addi>
a3Dman, it was, but they changed it to closed source again
<addi>
back in 2011 I think
<a3Dman>
s/symbain/symbian
<VIad>
lol if I get my memo, contacts, messages from the store
<VIad>
my phone will look like frankenstein
<addi>
now it's handled by Accenture anyway
<VIad>
different theme and layout for each app :P
<VIad>
for a person that cares about usability and aesthetics, it would suck
<addi>
can't beat Symbian's theme support either. even noobs like me could make themes using their software
<addi>
so many good things these "smartphones" of today don't have
<VIad>
I read I could go back to stock any time
<VIad>
is it a lie? :P
<addi>
download Odin and stock firmware and flash on phone
<addi>
done
<addi>
and factory reset from recovery later if phone doesn't boot
<VIad>
nice
<VIad>
any touchwiz based phones that can run the stock samsung apps?
<VIad>
just asking, as they also probably have the hacks for battery, performance, e.g. e.g. incorporated
<addi>
er, TouchWiz-based phones will run stock Samsung apps automatically
<VIad>
ye
<VIad>
but CM has a lot of tweaks that are nice
<VIad>
battery is one important one
<addi>
believe me, there is no "battery tweak" on CM
<VIad>
strickly speaking
<VIad>
what is CM?
<VIad>
mins android
<addi>
CM is stock Android, with a few tweaks included for customization
<VIad>
minus*
<VIad>
why are there issues with stock android on S2?
<bbqbot>
derp
<VIad>
like it needs fixes to work on S2
<addi>
because manufacturers use drivers for running different hardware like camera, GPU etc, source for which aren't available
<VIad>
hmm
<VIad>
when samsung releases 4.3 for S2
<addi>
so CM devs have to use alternative open source drivers which don't always work as well
<VIad>
will CM have it easier to fix the bugs?
<addi>
Samsung won't release anything past 4.1 for SGS2
<VIad>
I understand
<VIad>
i.e. CM that uses 4.1 is most stable?
<addi>
not really, issues will still remain, since Samsung will never provide full source except the kernel's
<ctlaltdefeat>
will they release more source for 4.1 stuff?
<addi>
they will only provide the source for the kernel
<addi>
that doesn't include sources for the ROM itself
<ctlaltdefeat>
didn't they release that already?
<addi>
and neither the official drivers for the different hardware components
<ctlaltdefeat>
why not
<addi>
er, because those components are made by other companies that don't want all the source looked at :P
<addi>
basically, only the kernel source is required to be provided
<ctlaltdefeat>
oh that will fix most things?
<VIad>
why not? does the source contain naughty comments? :3
<addi>
it helps, yes
<ctlaltdefeat>
when they gonna release that?
<bbqbot>
derp
<addi>
when the official 4.1 ROM releases
<ctlaltdefeat>
any ETAs?
<addi>
ask Samsung :)
<VIad>
at least apple is good at this
<ctlaltdefeat>
they didn't give any?
<VIad>
updating their older models software
<addi>
not officially, except that it's coming
<QuinnLion>
lol paid updates
<ctlaltdefeat>
oh it's coming
<ctlaltdefeat>
that helps
<addi>
VIad, yeah, they have few devices, so not a difficult thing
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<ctlaltdefeat>
hmm i'm looking at the current CM10.1
<VIad>
:P
<ctlaltdefeat>
what does audio features not fully implemented mean?
<VIad>
don't know, it plays music for me, I can watch videos
<VIad>
maybe handsfree bluetooth?
<ctlaltdefeat>
who cares about that
<ctlaltdefeat>
i want the alarm to work and to hear calls
<VIad>
can a theme skin the google calendar app or contact app?
<addi>
the SGS2/3 have problems because Samsung doesn't provide good/up to date documentation for Exynos
<VIad>
only issue is you should either use long ringtone or android_loop metatag on short ringtones to make it loop
<VIad>
that's the only big issue I encountered :P
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<QuinnLion>
nebkat know anything about Relay4G(SGH-T699)
<addi>
Fissurez,
<addi>
whats up dood
<Fissurez>
not much
<Fissurez>
pissed w/ google
<addi>
WHY NOT?!
<addi>
WHY?!
<bbqbot>
derp
<ctlaltdefeat>
CM10.1 doesn't have the so called project butter right?
<Fissurez>
because they have the most incompetent shipping department ever.
<Fissurez>
ctlaltdefeat does
<ctlaltdefeat>
oh
<VIad>
anyone with S2 and CM10.1 here?
<addi>
Fissurez, for the SGS2 he meant
<Fissurez>
oh
<addi>
SGS2 got full butter now?
<Fissurez>
which one
<ctlaltdefeat>
do you happen to know what exactly are the audio issues on it?
<ctlaltdefeat>
i mean SGS2 ya :P
<Fissurez>
i9100 doesn't have the butter iir
<addi>
probably i9100
<Fissurez>
i9100g does
<ctlaltdefeat>
aw
<VIad>
what is butter?
<Fissurez>
VIad pretty much animal fat
<Fissurez>
goes good on toast
<VIad>
how does that help your phone?
<addi>
ctlaltdefeat, the i9100G uses a TI OMAP chipset, which is also on Galaxy Nexus/other devices and TI is good at providing documentation, so it is easy to work with
<Fissurez>
well, it makes the screen smoother and easier to use
<ctlaltdefeat>
yeah i got it
<addi>
it's basically a scam asking GPU to do extra work to keep things smooth
<ctlaltdefeat>
so, not exactly known what the audio issues are on sgs2?
<bbqbot>
derp
<VIad>
kick bbqbot?
<addi>
and is what gives you faster/smoother animations and response times
<Fissurez>
VIad no
<VIad>
he only says "derp"
<Fissurez>
VIad bbqbot is awesome
<Fissurez>
nope
<Fissurez>
he also does
<Fissurez>
@bomb VIad
<bbqbot>
Fissurez: You are not allowed to run that command!
<addi>
@8ball is VIad a noob?
<bbqbot>
Yes.
<Fissurez>
ffs
<Fissurez>
datagutt FIX
<VIad>
@8all is addi correct
<bbqbot>
VIad: Command does not exist!
<VIad>
@8ball is addi correct
<bbqbot>
Don't count on it.
<VIad>
:P
<addi>
@8ball is addi correct
<bbqbot>
Don't count on it.
<addi>
@8ball is addi correct
<bbqbot>
Without a doubt.
<addi>
^
<Fissurez>
^
<addi>
that's the correct answer, kthx
<ctlaltdefeat>
thx
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<Fissurez>
addi google told me that they might take another month to deliver my device
<Fissurez>
it's already a week late
<addi>
sheesh
<Fissurez>
they have no idea how long it'll take for another shipment, and hopefully next month
<Fissurez>
i was pissed off
<VIad>
systemui.apk is that the base I must use for theme template?
<addi>
"Nexus 4 - the most awesome hardware ever for $299/$350, but sorry, we forgot to actually make more than 10!!"
<Fissurez>
addi true
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<Fissurez>
+ they lied about shipping
<addi>
"oh, and we also made it full of glass, so if you crack it and want a new one, you can't" :P
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<Fissurez>
Probably cause its just a direct ios port
<Baskey>
IF I WERE AN ATOM
<Baskey>
I'D BOND WITH YOU
<Baskey>
cool
<Fissurez>
It is the most satisfying and fun boring game i have ever played
<Fissurez>
BASKEY
<Fissurez>
I WOULD DOUBLE BOND WITH YOU
<Baskey>
IZ IT BETTAR THAN PLAGUE INC?
<Fissurez>
UHM
<Fissurez>
YES
<Baskey>
OMG
<Baskey>
MUST HAVE
<Fissurez>
I <3
<Fissurez>
But then again, i never really enjoyed pandemic and plague inc games
<Fissurez>
All you do is make yourself infectious, then MURDER
<Baskey>
PLAGUE INC IZ FUN
<Fissurez>
Yas... Sort
<Fissurez>
Also
<Fissurez>
BASKEY
<Fissurez>
WE WILL STORM GOOGLE PLAY SUPPORT
<Fissurez>
TAKE ALL THEIR NWXUS
<Baskey>
Fissurez: I'D RATHER STORM SONY SUPPORT
<Fissurez>
WE CAN DO THAT AFTER
<Baskey>
OK
<Fissurez>
But srsky
<Fissurez>
Google owe my nexus
<Fissurez>
Its a week late and thwy told me it could be another month
<Fissurez>
Maybe longwer
<Baskey>
#blamelg
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<Fissurez>
Indeed
<Fissurez>
And #blamelyinggooglesupport
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<tuhoojabotti>
fuck
<tuhoojabotti>
I accidentally clicked "emulate external monitor"
<tuhoojabotti>
of course it hung my s2 and now it won't boot
<tuhoojabotti>
Can I disable it somehow via adb?
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<Fissurez>
Weeeeeeeeeeeee
<tuhoojabotti>
I take that as a no
<tuhoojabotti>
ls
<frankdrey>
Ntemis: arch is tried and tested...
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<lethal>
hi, i have a problem with 3g network status, when it is on, i have stable internet connection, but no one can call me, becouse im unreacheble, after a wile, im back in netwirk in a sec. problem has appeared only in 10.2.1
<lethal>
galaxy s ii
<lethal>
9100
<lethal>
can anyone help me?
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<petllama>
i got an answer from das keyboards
<petllama>
they are going to send me a new KB. mine was discontinued so they will be sending me next model up (with media controls on it)
<petllama>
" Thanks for the attachment. You are outside of the warranty, but since this is such an unusual issue we will go ahead with an exchange."
<petllama>
wrong chanel.. sorry
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<Jiangyi>
yum
<Jiangyi>
dual monitors :3
<Jiangyi>
Colors are so off from each other though. lol
<tuhoojabotti>
Jiangyi: I know right.
<tuhoojabotti>
I have 3 monitors all with different colors.
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<Jiangyi>
One's a glossy 23in Dell TN with 2048x1152
<Jiangyi>
The other's a Samsung 22in TN with 1680x1050
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<tuhoojabotti>
btw securesettings helper stopped working on some cm version
<Jiangyi>
tuhoojabotti: Doesn't help when the Sammy one is actually a crappy Chimei panel :/
<tuhoojabotti>
probably before 10.1
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<kZard|nb>
I know CWM is not a kernel, but I thought the bug had to do with using / installing CWM? (or am I missing something...)
<Fissurez>
I just rooted from stock install via zip
<kZard|nb>
I did too
<Fissurez>
Google it
<kZard|nb>
I did
<kZard|nb>
lol, I hate forums...
<Fissurez>
I think it was Entropy512 who did a really good series of posts on it
<kZard|nb>
for each post you read, there is a 75% chance that the info is outdated
<tuhoojabotti>
oh wow, the phone seems so slow when animation duration is not 0.5x
<Fissurez>
Oh yeah, kZard|nb there's an app that checks it too
<kZard|nb>
oh cool
<tuhoojabotti>
What good does that do
<tuhoojabotti>
It scared the hell out of me
<tuhoojabotti>
But I did it anyways.
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<Fissurez>
Think chainfire did it
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<Fissurez>
From what i read, it was a bug in a specific command that put 0s for the first 512bytes of data in emmc, frying the chip so that the only way to fix was an emmc replacement
<Guest47605>
oh :(
<Fissurez>
Which i think only a few people did.
<Fissurez>
But it was really interesting
<tuhoojabotti>
Unable to read AndroidManifest.xml of /system/app/SecureSettingsHelper.apk could this be why the helper is not responding?
<Jiangyi>
Fissurez: No clue, can't figure it out :-P
<Fissurez>
Ill try and see if i can find entropy512's g+ posts on it
<Fissurez>
Or he could link them.... *hint, hint*
<Guest47605>
i supose i can't ask for answer for a problem with titanium ? (i need to restore many games)
<a-st_>
I've reset flash counter, flashed stock firmware via odin, did a factory reset within recovery and from within android (including usb storage). Anything else I need to do before shipping my SGS2 to repair service? :D
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<Jiangyi>
a-st_: Think you're good :-P
<tuhoojabotti>
hmm
<tuhoojabotti>
should I restore old android id?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<tuhoojabotti>
I guess it wouldn't hurt
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<a-st_>
tuhoojabotti: that can break a lot of stuff
<tuhoojabotti>
Fine!
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<a-st_>
tuhoojabotti: I know people who restored android id, which resultet in a full-wipe :D
<kZard|nb>
lol, all I really want to do is reset my battery stats :D
<kZard|nb>
oh cool, I like Andrew Dodd's stuff
<tuhoojabotti>
Titanium backup ftw
<Fissurez>
Bleh.
<tuhoojabotti>
Fissurez: That does kind of explain why it took so damn long to get cm9 for s2
<Fissurez>
Heh, i didnt get cm until 9 rc2 :p
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<a-st_>
Fissurez: amazing how much he wrote o.O
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<kZard|netbook>
oh wow. So the superbrick bug came in on 4.0.4
<a-st_>
I wonder if samsung repair service partner will reject my device because IMEI on device label not matching the IMEI reported by Android. I think the device had been sent to repair before and they changed gsm or similar :-\
<Entropy512>
<Fissurez> From what i read, it was a bug in a specific command that put 0s for the first 512bytes of data in emmc, frying the chip so that the only way to fix was an emmc replacement - nothing to do with 512bytes of data...
<Entropy512>
three known bugs
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<Entropy512>
Nexus 32kb-of-zeros issue - GNex would randomly insert 32kb of zeros into the filesystem, recoverable via reformat, fixed by patching the firmware on the fly in the kernel
<Entropy512>
Superbrick - Issue secure erase to the chip and there's a good chance you will send the wear leveller out to lunch for eternity, no fix other than "don't send secure erase"
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<Entropy512>
Sudden Death Syndrom - Wear leveller on 16GB GS3s would go out to lunch for eternity without warning. Fixed by patching the eMMC firmware on the fly in the kernel
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<Fissurez>
Sorry about that Entropy512, what did you say?
<Entropy512>
<Entropy512> Nexus 32kb-of-zeros issue - GNex would randomly insert 32kb of zeros into the filesystem, recoverable via reformat, fixed by patching the firmware on the fly in the kernel
<Entropy512>
<Entropy512> Superbrick - Issue secure erase to the chip and there's a good chance you will send the wear leveller out to lunch for eternity, no fix other than "don't send secure erase"
<Entropy512>
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<Entropy512>
<Entropy512> Sudden Death Syndrom - Wear leveller on 16GB GS3s would go out to lunch for eternity without warning. Fixed by patching the eMMC firmware on the fly in the kernel
<Entropy512>
me lazy
<Entropy512>
me copypasta
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<Fissurez>
Wear leveller?
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* Fissurez
pokes Entropy512
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<Entropy512>
internal thing within the eMMC
<Entropy512>
so that if you write the same sector over and over again
<Entropy512>
it'll write to different physical sectors
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<chadouming_work>
yay, that avoid to kill sectore :D
<chadouming_work>
sectors :D
<chadouming_work>
new ssd technology allow a heating of certain physical sector to erase it so it won't die after a few operation :D
<Fissurez>
Ah ok
<Fissurez>
Yeah, ive seen that
<chadouming_work>
taht would be nice on my optimus G that get fucking hot
<chadouming_work>
xD
<a-st_>
Hm. I just want my SGS2 to be repaired :D And not being charged for it :D
<Fissurez>
You done the nexusify of your optimus g?
<chadouming_work>
my phone is dead currently
<Fissurez>
Wat
<Fissurez>
WatAlready?
<chadouming_work>
but what are you reffering to specifically
<chadouming_work>
?
<chadouming_work>
already ?
<chadouming_work>
i changed phone 3 times xD
<Fissurez>
The optimus into a nexus 4 thing
<chadouming_work>
these phone are ultra tightly locked
<chadouming_work>
and get killed easy compared to samsung phone
<Fissurez>
Really?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Fissurez>
Owch
<chadouming_work>
no i havnt done it
<chadouming_work>
no need to do it
<Fissurez>
That is true
<chadouming_work>
our candian phone can run nexus 4 thing
<Fissurez>
What, normal flash stuff?
<chadouming_work>
yup
<Fissurez>
Nb
<Fissurez>
I take it breaks lte though
<chadouming_work>
just make sure to flash by partition name and not by partition number
<chadouming_work>
nope, doesnt break lte
<Fissurez>
Oh, nice
<Jiangyi>
chadouming_home: So what's broken now? o-O
<a-st_>
Once I briked my xda comet because I had an empty file on my sdcard which hat the same name as bootloader firmware file. So I rebooted and it flashed the bootloader with 0s
<a-st_>
:D
<chadouming_work>
i mostly have everything working on CM10.1 beside capacitive keys
<Fissurez>
Lol
<a-st_>
:D
<Fissurez>
The important bits?
<chadouming_work>
Jiangyi, i flashed the korean optimus G modem and i was not able to have network anymore
<Fissurez>
Or using soft keys?
<Fissurez>
...
<chadouming_work>
using soft jey yes
<Fissurez>
Why?
<Jiangyi>
chadouming_home: Makes sense, think that's an entirely different variant :-P
<chadouming_work>
soft key
<chadouming_work>
Jiangyi, used the one that it pretty much like ours :P
<Fissurez>
Why did you flash that modem -.-
<chadouming_work>
there is like 3 korean variant
<chadouming_work>
cause they are on jb
<Jiangyi>
The F180s
<chadouming_work>
and i tried to see if i could fix wifi
<Fissurez>
But it broke it!
<Jiangyi>
I thought they were all the same, just different names :-P
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<chadouming_work>
yup, fixed wifi differently xD
<Kirano>
Greetings
<chadouming_work>
hai
<Kirano>
How are you?
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<Jiangyi>
chadouming_home: I don't trust Korean variants, they're always screwed up one way or another :-P
<chadouming_work>
lol
<chadouming_work>
yeah, well they screw the phone
<chadouming_work>
don't know yet what they screw tho
<Jiangyi>
The S2 HD LTE variant there had a freaking extendable antenna .___.
<chadouming_work>
the only thing was i didnt have network
<chadouming_work>
i'd love to have an antenna on my phone xD
<chadouming_work>
i live in a far away place
<Jiangyi>
I believe it was only for some special Korean thing, not cellular related :-P
<chadouming_work>
and there is not much network between 2 towns
<chadouming_work>
tho we have LTE in some part of the town here
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<a-st_>
is there no way to flash older/other modem?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Fissurez>
Hahaha canadia.
* Jiangyi
simply can't afford LTE
<Jiangyi>
That, and I'm on a freaking Nokia flip phone only capable of 2G atm
<chadouming_work>
there is only one modem really available
<Jiangyi>
The earpiece doesn't even freaking work anymore T_T
<a-st_>
Hm. HTC HD2 is so slow compared to SGS2 :-\
<Jiangyi>
So I have to talk with my phone backwards like a retard
<Jiangyi>
On the bright side, 7-8 weekers are getting their N4 shipments now :-D