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<QuinnLion>
Evee_, I dunno, Like I said, I dont know much about Sammy devices. I just have a tablet, it has a few modes, Odin, or recovery
<Jiangyi>
Thracky: Cmon, I won't be driving a car for at least another 6 months :/
<QuinnLion>
Jiangyi, I was driving a car 5 years before I had my licenese
<QuinnLion>
does it show a device with serial number?
<Jiangyi>
Corrupted image?
<Evee_>
oh yeah I already rooted, hmmm i'll redownload and check if that's it
<QuinnLion>
Jiangyi, how come my p5113 has no flash_image binary? or that it doesnt work, no matter where the file is or what permissions are set on it
<QuinnLion>
where the binary to be flashed is*
<frankdrey>
QuinnLion, 1. why do you need flash_image? 2. what is output of doing flash_image?
* Jiangyi
doesn't even know what flash_image is
<QuinnLion>
frankdrey, says permission denied etc
<QuinnLion>
even with root
<QuinnLion>
lemme go get my USB cable and sdk on this computer
<QuinnLion>
I was trying to flash CWM touch
<QuinnLion>
brb
<frankdrey>
:/
<frankdrey>
you need to use heimdall to flash cwm
<frankdrey>
flash_image is prehistoric
<frankdrey>
QuinnLion, what OS on PC?
<frankdrey>
also, get the p5110 cwm touch img
<frankdrey>
p5113 is no longer built and outdated
<frankdrey>
p5110 is exactly the same hardware
<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: I tried finding a guy with a dock. I failed. >_<
* |Night|
slaps Jiangyi around a bit with a large trout
<frankdrey>
but that's just a million more noobs cm has to deal with
<frankdrey>
"what is ext2IFS? it dun work. it bruk my PC"
<codeworkx>
Jiangyi: already got logs
<Jiangyi>
oh cool :-P
<Jiangyi>
Actually, that makes me even more of a failure :/
<QuinnLion>
frankdrey, I knwo :s Mass Stoarge for the SDcard itself would be great
<frankdrey>
eh
<frankdrey>
QuinnLion, download heimdall from my link
<QuinnLion>
Im working on it
<Evee_>
OK so i redownloaded clockwork and tried it again and here's a screenie of everything http://i.imgur.com/ag6u7.png
<frankdrey>
QuinnLion, download heimdall and recovery img i linked to PC, and whatever cm zip you want to tablet and appropriate gapps zip to tablet
<QuinnLion>
Eh? I ahve to rewrite my rom?
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<frankdrey>
QuinnLion, what are you installing clockworkmod for? ._.
<QuinnLion>
I just want the touch version instead of the normal one
* QuinnLion
has CM and CWM already on there.
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<frankdrey>
ohhh
<frankdrey>
ok, cool
<QuinnLion>
haha
<QuinnLion>
Think I was another nub :P
<frankdrey>
download heimdall and recovery img to PC is all :P
<QuinnLion>
so heimdall accepts img?
<frankdrey>
you on cm10/cm10.1
<frankdrey>
yeah?
<frankdrey>
yeah.
<QuinnLion>
I'm on 10.1
<QuinnLion>
waiting for a stable :P
<frankdrey>
ok, yeah, grab the p5110 img i linked
<QuinnLion>
doing
<frankdrey>
because it's built alongside the latest cm
* QuinnLion
is talking through RDP on a small screen D:
<frankdrey>
D:
<frankdrey>
you'll need to put the tablet in download mode and plug it in through usb...
<QuinnLion>
yeah got that going, backing up right now
<QuinnLion>
fucking love this SDcard
<QuinnLion>
25-40MB/s
<QuinnLion>
gets hot enough to fry eggs though
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<QuinnLion>
one more question, how do you get p5110 to move apps to sdcard or even internal storage (from what I can see, everything is on eMMC, but mountpoints/folders
<frankdrey>
afaik, you can't :|
<frankdrey>
internal storage is emmc
<QuinnLion>
Good going Google.
<frankdrey>
it's all shared
<QuinnLion>
:s
<QuinnLion>
yeah thats what I was saying
<frankdrey>
"move apps to internal storage"
<frankdrey>
why?
<bbqbot>
derp
<frankdrey>
if it's already on the same emmc
<QuinnLion>
Well somewhere where CWM can back them up but if' it's getting them in nandroid, then nevermind
<QuinnLion>
:P
<MaXim_>
what SD card?
<QuinnLion>
Some Duracell branded 32GB C10
<MaXim_>
duracell O.o
<QuinnLion>
Yea...
<MaXim_>
I never knew that they even sold SD cards
<QuinnLion>
They didnt amke it
<QuinnLion>
:P
<MaXim_>
but even sold
<frankdrey>
nandroid has always gotten apps
<frankdrey>
nandroid does not get internal storage / sd
<QuinnLion>
Right
<QuinnLion>
backup complete
<QuinnLion>
getting sammy drivers now
<QuinnLion>
or just use Hiemdalls?
<QuinnLion>
(Frsh XP install, nothing on here)
<frankdrey>
heimdalls
<QuinnLion>
k
<frankdrey>
open zadig.exe
<frankdrey>
put tab in download mode and plug in
<QuinnLion>
yeah, I used it to flash CWM initially
<frankdrey>
ok
<QuinnLion>
Because I wasnt satisfied with chainfire's root and supersu
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<frankdrey>
you'll need to use heimdall from command prompt
<QuinnLion>
o.o
<QuinnLion>
oh noes D:
<QuinnLion>
just gimem the command I guess
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<frankdrey>
heimdall flash --recovery <drag and drop recovery img at this point after a space after --recovery>
<MaXim_>
i just tried recording a video on my sgs3 and found that the framerate is limited to 16.667fps. Is there any way to fix this?
<iKillCypher>
rom ?
<iKillCypher>
kernel
<iKillCypher>
?
<bbqbot>
derp
<MaXim_>
cm10.1 nightly from 10th
<iKillCypher>
kernel ?
<MaXim_>
cm one?
<MaXim_>
3.0.31-CM-g49017aa
<MaXim_>
hmm nevermind
<MaXim_>
it seems to be that way because im using the nexus 4 camera app
<MaXim_>
the stock one works fine lol
<iKillCypher>
...
<iKillCypher>
<MaXim_> it seems to be that way because im using the nexus 4 camera app
<iKillCypher>
<MaXim_> the stock one works fine lol
<iKillCypher>
you just answer your own question
<MaXim_>
I take that back
<MaXim_>
the stock camera app is not even working
<iKillCypher>
what ?!
<iKillCypher>
logcat it the stock camera
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<MaXim_>
interesting. a reboot fixed it
<MaXim_>
logcat didn't show anything
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<Jiangyi>
o_O
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<lynn>
hi, i have cm9 on my att galaxy s2, i enabled encryption to meet exchange server policy, but how to i decrypt? thanks.
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<shaaan>
need some help in compiling cm10
<shaaan>
log here :http://pastebin.com/ydzVru9D
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<MaXim_>
err
<MaXim_>
i was running build.sh prepare and it created a "~" directory where I ran it
<MaXim_>
I guess this is because I specified ~/bleh as the target dir
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<Alokin>
hello, when i start nightmode clock with daydream of clock app it merge all lines when numbers change, is that problem just mine?
<Alokin>
cm10.1 everything stock..
<Alokin>
(latest update)
<Alokin>
oh and i have google current's widget that makes a strange dark blur at the edges, instead blue, like it should
<|Night|>
its a bug
<|Night|>
:P
<Alokin>
oh so it is not caused by me or mine settings :D
<|Night|>
its just you :P
<Alokin>
so how can i fix this? (device: GT-I9300)
<|Night|>
wait for new nighlty
<|Night|>
:)
<|Night|>
when ever they get around to fixing it, alot more important bugs on the table
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<|Night|>
helllo
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<shaaan>
cdesai around ?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<Hodes>
Good morning, i've a problem with my galaxy s3 and cm 9.1. If i'm calling with anyone, the other one hear an echo. Can i fix this problem in anyway? Sry for bad english?
<Hodes>
!
<Frd^>
that could be caused on bad reception from gsm tower, happens to me on stock aslo
<Frd^>
Hodes: you could try different modem pack, if it helps
<Alokin>
try disabling noise filtering...i got some audio problems with this actived
<Hodes>
another question, could anyone say when 10.1 would released?
<Hodes>
the stable one
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<mjt>
Hodes: care to read /topic ? :)
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<Alokin>
Hodes, go to Dialer then options and disable "Noise suppression"
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<Hodes>
mjt: nope, sry. is this question not allowed?
<Alokin>
hodes if oyu read at the top of that window, you will find that: [TEAMHACKSUNG SUPPORT CHANNEL [...] | NO ETAs | DON'T PING CODY [...]
<shaaan>
Hodes that question isnt allowed anywhere in the world of android..
<Hodes>
shaaan: kk i won't ask again
<laen>
Poor Hodes.
<Hodes>
sry sry :(
<Hodes>
but thx for help, bye bye
<Alokin>
bb
<laen>
Hodes: it'll be ready next week.
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<mjt>
heh
<mjt>
speaking of android world... I'm trying to decide what to use on samsung GN2 (N7100) - stock fw or CM. This device is my first smartphone and is less than a month old, and i already got used to handwriting (s-pen) and voice input of stock firmware, but my nature suggest to try something else...
<shaaan>
CM ftw
<mjt>
N7100 is relatively new device with no goo support on CM side yet. On the other hand, I already tried openwrt a few years back on a device which weren't supoprted, and made some patches for the kernel to support it - it was fun, but very time-consuming
<mjt>
good*
<mjt>
(i'm a long-time linux hacker)
<laen>
Define linux hacker.
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<Espenfjo>
mjt: Root it, install CWM, take a nandroid backup of stock, then install CM
<Espenfjo>
That way you can use CM for some weeks, and if you want go back to stock withtout any hassle
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<shaaan>
Espenfjo played with STE hardware ?
<Espenfjo>
no
<Espenfjo>
whats that? :P
<bbqbot>
derp
<shaaan>
nothing great. just trying to compile CM 10 for a STE device
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<shaaan>
Basically STE is the NovaThor Soc
<shaaan>
Used in some mid-range devices
<laen>
Uhm, does CM actually make use of the stock ROM kernels when optimizing the CM for the devices?
<laen>
Or, look how they're configured, and changing the CM kernel based on that?
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<pyros>
hello
<pyros>
i need help whith the instalation of cm 10.1
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<Frd^>
pyros: what?
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<MaXim_>
are NFS modules included in cm10.1?
<MaXim_>
the nightly builds that is
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<QuinnLion>
is there a reason I cant control CPU clock?
<QuinnLion>
(In an effort to save power)
<QuinnLion>
Or even disable a core
<QuinnLion>
I dunno
<QuinnLion>
I'm on p5113
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<mjt>
Espenfjo: (re N1700 CM vs stock, i was afk): it's already rooted the easy way thanks to the exynos memory access exploit (c) samsung ;) and yes i was thinking about trying cm with ability to go back, exactly the way you suggested :)
<Goliath23>
can anyone confirm that 10.1 on sgs2 has an issue with the camera? Experience is, that the first usage of the video camera (skype or recording with camera app) works fine. however, on second usage something crashes (skype, gallery app) and the camera is not usable until next reboot.
<[SkG]>
hmmm
<[SkG]>
Goliath23,
<[SkG]>
with photos happens the same?
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<Goliath23>
no
<Goliath23>
photos work fine
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<shaaan>
codeworkx around?
<codeworkx>
aye
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<Bert_>
Goliath, I can not reporduce the issue here. i9100M running cm 10.1 2013 01 10 nighly.
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<Goliath23>
Bert_: acutally sometimes its even after one video recording
<Goliath23>
gallery crashes
<Goliath23>
gapps as of 12.12.
<shaaan>
codeworkx so i setup a new device tree. From scratch
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<shaaan>
Grabbed stuff from sony pepper
<Bert_>
Yes, gapps 12 12. I can go in to gallery no problem.
<Bert_>
Recorded 4 short videos, also tried shooting 2, exiting the camera app (stock) and going back in.
<Goliath23>
hm
<Goliath23>
Bert_: what could be the reason i'm experiencing this reproducably?
<Bert_>
I don't know. I am just a n00b lurker.
<Bert_>
Are you doing something special, like linking location (GPS)?
<Goliath23>
nope, I don't think so
<Goliath23>
indeed, I had save location checked
<Goliath23>
actually this might have been the problem
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<Goliath23>
could you try to reproduce with "save location" checked?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Goliath23>
might be a bogus translation, I use german localizatiojn
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<Bert_>
I will try but I think my GPS is not working.
<Goliath23>
I had gps disabled
<Goliath23>
weird. now I could record 10 videos or so. but then I couldn't stop the last video and it rebooted
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<Bert_>
I even tried it in German, and after reboot had no issue.
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<wilcarju>
hi everyone
<wilcarju>
i've just updated my i9100 intl to the last nightly of cm10.1 and I got a message warning low memory space every time the phone reboot. Does anyone know any issue on that?
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<Goliath23>
Bert_ I now deleted cache and data of the camera/gallery app. no problems since. but hey. probably when I take the next video of my daughter .. :
<Goliath23>
:)
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<Goliath23>
if that works, the only problem left for me is usb dock audio not working
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<endstille>
hey, does anyone know, why there has been a second nightly today? i cannot see any changelog for my i9100
<Jiangyi>
Well, someone probably triggered it for the lulz
<Jiangyi>
j/k
<Jiangyi>
Yeah, I don't get it either
<endstille>
okay, thanks :)
<endstille>
i'll probably just update, but then i'd like to let it run for some days, to get a feeling for my new battery
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<Baskey>
datagutt: DATAGOUTE
<datagutt>
BASBASKEYKEY
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<a3Dman>
!dood
<clibot>
whats up dood
<laen>
derp!
<a3Dman>
herp
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<a3Dman>
so the sgs2+ is not exynos?
<bbqbot>
derp
<a3Dman>
GPU: Broadcomm VideoCore IV < never heard about that...
<laen>
dero
<laen>
s/o/p/
<a3Dman>
well, by GSMArenas benches, this GPU is lame.
<a3Dman>
samsung is just lame...
<laen>
Just buy the iPhone 5, you can watch hanging cats in full.
<laen>
And you can't do shit so you can't complain.
<datagutt>
VideoCore IV is the same gpu as raspberry pi
<datagutt>
not really made for gaming
<datagutt>
but it handles video well
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<a3Dman>
datagutt: so what the hell they was thinking of "Plus"
<a3Dman>
lol
<datagutt>
no idea
<datagutt>
BUT
<datagutt>
if it uses videocore iv, the blobs might be usable on rpi
<datagutt>
so we can have working hw accel on rpi android
<a3Dman>
good idea.
<datagutt>
a3Dman: good thing they released it
<datagutt>
lol
<a3Dman>
finally a good thing from lamesung.
<datagutt>
because currently people are writing a gralloc from scratch
<a3Dman>
I hate GPUs anyway...
<a3Dman>
GMA was the best
<datagutt>
a3Dman: these fuckers at broadcom already released a vid of smooth 4.0 on rpi
<datagutt>
but they did not release the updated blobs
<a3Dman>
LOL
<datagutt>
they said something about they using a different gpu firmware
<a3Dman>
that's so childish in my point of view
<datagutt>
it shows it can be smooth even with 256mb ram
<datagutt>
Naren has been working on a port of Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) to Raspberry Pi, and as you can see from the screenshots and video below, he’s been making great progress. Hardware-accelerated graphics and video have been up and running smoothly for some time; AudioFlinger support is the only major missing piece at the moment.
<a3Dman>
well if it's a 200mhz cpu with good gpu, the animations will be good...
<datagutt>
VideoCore IV is awesome
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<a3Dman>
as you said, good with video, but looks it sucks badly in 3D
<datagutt>
y
<datagutt>
i think the android 4.0 vid they released looks usable
<a3Dman>
rom the benchmarks
<datagutt>
pretty much like using an allwinner tv stick
<a3Dman>
from*
<datagutt>
but it can use xbmc decently
<a3Dman>
datagutt: btw, this blog post is from july, did it come?
<datagutt>
which mk802 can't
<datagutt>
a3Dman: nope
<a3Dman>
shiet.
<datagutt>
and it pisses me off
<datagutt>
"This implementation uses a different kernel and VideoCore binary image from the one available on GitHub, which is why we’ve been keeping quiet about it so far. We’re investigating the feasibility of converging the two code lines to produce a single common platform as soon as we can, at which point we hope to release the sources for you to play with."
<a3Dman>
it would piss anyone off.
<datagutt>
broadcom is busy with customer projects
<datagutt>
like sgs2+ probably
<datagutt>
and since raspberry pi is non-profit
<a3Dman>
of course, $$ power.
<datagutt>
we are fucked
<a3Dman>
it's capitalism anyway
<a3Dman>
lol
<datagutt>
"The problem is the drivers from Broadcom, we cannot release those at the moment, and that’s where all the acceleration is. So, really, there’s not much that can be done by the community until those drivers are out there, and they are still in development at Broadcom, who are very busy with customer projects at the moment."
<datagutt>
a3dman ^
<a3Dman>
too bad.
<datagutt>
but it looks like we are close to getting 4.1 booting
<datagutt>
and it seems to rely on hwaccel a lot
<datagutt>
well
<a3Dman>
yes
<datagutt>
close to get it to compile
<datagutt>
it does not even compile yet
<a3Dman>
I think the ordroid is not bad...
<datagutt>
xD
<datagutt>
Meh
<datagutt>
it is exynos
<a3Dman>
yes, but it works
<datagutt>
mostly the same problems
<a3Dman>
not sure, it boots CM, and has acc
<datagutt>
the reason it works is that the maintainer used all teh haxxxx from sgs3 and so on
<datagutt>
a3Dman: maintainer used all the hacks
<datagutt>
even those we stopped using on sgs3
<a3Dman>
I see...
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<a3Dman>
datagutt: the problems with all this blobs saga is making all these hardware suck badly, while it's awesome hardware...
<datagutt>
y
<a3Dman>
because corporations are lame, and think only of $$
<mquinteiro>
Hi some one can give to me a little help?
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<milo_>
anyone here?
<mquinteiro>
me
<milo_>
hey i was having a problem when i switched from cm 10.1 to stock rom on my verizon galaxy s3 there was a triangle over my signal bars and didnt let me make calls go on internet or message ect. what is this? please help!
<milo_>
i just flashed it thrpugh odin to stock rom and there is a triangle over my signal bars
<Jiangyi>
Flex: Why are you still using ROM manager?
<Flex>
Why not? :S
<milo_>
no i used Odin to flash the stock rom not Rom Manager
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<Jiangyi>
Flex: Cause CM has a built-in updater?
<mquinteiro>
Is dangerours the continues empty battery we you charge N7100 fowered off?
<mquinteiro>
It garges in this stage? I'm bit scared about run out off battery and no way to charge it.
<mquinteiro>
gages = chages
<mquinteiro>
upss again charges
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<DuperMan>
finally got the things to be working all awesome together. all the things. hooray.
<DuperMan>
nothing android/cm related though:P
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<frankdrey>
whooo my friend gave me a new guitar strap :P
<frankdrey>
i no longer have to make 5 attempts at putting on my guitar on stage!
<a3Dman>
good
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<frankdrey>
i think my philosophy teacher already hates me
<frankdrey>
because I'm Christian
<frankdrey>
and am also reasonable
<frankdrey>
and have reasons for being Christian :P
<a3Dman>
that's racist
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<mjt>
hm. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title=Install_CM_for_n7100 says "Boot the Galaxy Note 2 into download mode by holding down Home & Volume Down while connecting via USB.". I'm not sure this works on my device (intl. version of N7100) - VolDown+Home does nothing.
<bbqbot>
derp
<laen>
derp
<Espenfjo>
power the device off
<Espenfjo>
then hold volume down + home button
<Espenfjo>
While holding, press power to boot it
<mjt>
aha
<Espenfjo>
Actually you dont need to hold home
<mjt>
got it
<mjt>
yeah, apparently the wiki is wrong, it is VolDown+Power, not VolDown+Home
<mjt>
wug.
<Espenfjo>
Its correct now ;)
<Espenfjo>
thank you
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<Espenfjo>
nebkat: See! I fixed your shit!
<mjt>
it says "downloading, do not turn off the target" -- but is there a way to actually STOP the thing? :)
<mjt>
i'm having some issue with USB on this PC
<Espenfjo>
If you arent sending anything over the USB you can just power the phone off and on again
<mjt>
looks like it is stuck
<mjt>
it does not react to >1min press of the power button
<mjt>
removing battery helped
<Espenfjo>
:)
<Espenfjo>
Apparantly some differences in the n7100 from other devices
<mjt>
i guess it's a bug
<mjt>
this usb thing - it might uncover a bug in the recovery firmware
<mjt>
..and no, VolDown+Power does not work. It is VolDown+Home+Power
<Espenfjo>
wow
<mjt>
with VolDown+Power it boots into regular mode
<mjt>
just like with Power w/o anything else
<mjt>
sigh. I need to fix this usb thing first. I hate doing kernel debugging of stuff which stays on the way... :(
<mjt>
[226652.155065] hub 6-6:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 2 disabled
<mjt>
ERROR: Failed to access device. libusb error: -3
<mjt>
it detected the device and created ttyUSB0
<mjt>
(using cdc_acm)
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<Fissurez>
B-B-B-BASKEY
<DuperMan>
f. I forgot Baskey's bot trigger catchphrase thing
<DuperMan>
:|
<DuperMan>
!dood Baskey
<clibot>
Baskey,
<clibot>
whats up dood
<DuperMan>
phew
<Baskey>
DuperMan: HEY DUPEY
<Baskey>
!dood DuperMan
<clibot>
DuperMan,
<clibot>
whats up dood
<DuperMan>
HOW R U WAERING
<DuperMan>
OOOPS I MeSAN WHAtT R U DOING
<Baskey>
I YES HAZ, MANY TANKS
<Baskey>
Fissurez: hi
<Fissurez>
Gtfo hes mine
* Fissurez
slaps the crap out of DuperMan
<DuperMan>
I like hulu. it is like an illegal-geographically legal 2004 youtube
<DuperMan>
:D
* DuperMan
dies very busineslike, no tributes to shakesperean deathknels
<Fissurez>
Good
<DuperMan>
it was supposed to be so real you were made to think of your attitude
<DuperMan>
I really over-thought it
<DuperMan>
--
<DuperMan>
anyone got an idea how shit v-moda headphones are?
<Fissurez>
Think of my attitude.
<Fissurez>
Really.
<Fissurez>
Me?
<Fissurez>
Think?
<Fissurez>
Baskey: laugh for me then slap DuperMan
<Fissurez>
Also, akg headphones are where its at.
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* DuperMan
slaps Baskey around a bit with a large trout
<Baskey>
PUTTY SPECER HERE
<Baskey>
SPENCER*
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<DuperMan>
HALLO SPENCAR
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<Thiagovfar>
Who's Spencer?
<DuperMan>
does he have a daughter to be trolling us or did we enjoy the company of Baskey's kidnapee?
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<DuperMan>
real old real bad puppet kids' show
<Baskey_>
WHERE'S MY LAWYER
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<Fissurez>
POOTIS SPENCER HERE
<DuperMan>
VAGINAS ARE NOT A FRUIT
<a3Dman>
NO WAI!
<Fissurez>
THIS NEWS SHOCKS ME TO THE CORE
<Fissurez>
LIKE A FRUIT
<Fissurez>
is ok though, my tablet has a spare core
<unknwn>
any clues why with cm10.1 androis os battery usage is high(~30%)?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Fissurez>
yes
<Fissurez>
you're holding it wrong
<MaXim_>
1% per hour here :)
<DuperMan>
ah. I haz 6 hard drives, it appears.
<DuperMan>
also, gtx560ti448 running smooth at 860mhz gpu, 2,000 dual channel mem
<a3Dman>
I lose 1% every second, very satisfied
<DuperMan>
YOU ARE HOLDING IT WRONG!
<DuperMan>
USE SOME ELSES HAND AND DON'T EVER ASK FOR IT BACK
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<Anonymous>
hi
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<Fissurez>
DuperMan why 6 hard drives.
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<DuperMan>
Fissurez: hoarder
<DuperMan>
I LOVE GIATBYTES
<DuperMan>
so... amazon, having been the shittiest shitmongering shitfaced shits around of late, are offering me 90$ 'back' on 'my' 'old' kindle dx THAT I REPORTED THAT I BOUGHT FROM THEM and was instructed to RETURN STOLEN GOODS TO THIEF
<DuperMan>
><
<DuperMan>
funny here is I got 80% refunded on the thing, and it's a cute toy even without internets for the price