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<ArmbianTwitter>
@davidwahyuyu (DWP): RT @_arifinsantoso: I was very surprised, my first picture from GK-2A was using Android TV Box using Armbian @sam210723 big thanks to @yc3b… (29s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@mscdexdotexe (mscdex): Got a brand new Odroid C4, installed latest @armbian Buster (server) image on an eMMC, configured everything on first boot (everything seems to be working), performed package upgrades...... aaaaaand system became unbootable. :-( (23s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@tuananh_org (anh 🦄 🌈): @mscdexdotexe @armbian IMO, just grab an Intel NUC. Without the case, it’s practically a SBC. (3s ago)
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<Werner>
Good morning.
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<IgorPec>
good mornging
<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): @mscdexdotexe Package upgrade might break the system, yes. Since there is no support upstream. This will be corrected in a week/two. This system is labelled for testing. Expect no more than that right now. (20s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@raspberrytorpes (raspberryparatorpes): RT @mscdexdotexe: Got a brand new Odroid C4, installed latest @armbian Buster (server) image on an eMMC, configured everything on first boo… (12s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): @mscdexdotexe A temporary workaround is to freeze system packages in armbian-config -> system menu. Then upgrade should not break the board. (28s ago)
<DaRock>
hey guys
<DaRock>
anyone used nvme tool over usb adapter? Is there only specific hardware to do this with?
<IgorPec>
nvme tool for ?
<IgorPec>
hey
<DaRock>
I believe the "nvme" is used instead of smartctl at this point
<IgorPec>
aha, to get some infor from nvme drive?
<DaRock>
but given smartctl only works with certain hardware I was wondering if I'd have the smae trouble with nvme as well
<DaRock>
^same
<IgorPec>
tbh, not familiar with
<DaRock>
yeah, SART health status and such
<DaRock>
^SMART
<IgorPec>
isn't there some smartctrl or smth?
<DaRock>
smartctl doesn't work with nvme atm AFAICT
<IgorPec>
probably usb bridge is the problem
<DaRock>
I'm asking here because I asked on archlinux and they didn't know and mentioned asking on their arm channel - I figured armbian would have a wider audience using devices that would more likely use usb enclosures
<DaRock>
yeah, the bridge part is what requires specific hardware for sata commands - I wasn't sure whether the same applied for nvme
<DaRock>
I know SATA commands were rather "archaic", so I wasn't sure whether nvme has improved on this
<IgorPec>
it works for me on a desktop and T4
<IgorPec>
where i have nvme drives
<DaRock>
over usb?
<IgorPec>
no, direct
<DaRock>
you mean smartctl?
<IgorPec>
i also have one via usb, let me check
<IgorPec>
smartctl
<DaRock>
ahh. Which version?
<IgorPec>
yeah, via USB it doesn't work
<IgorPec>
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05
<DaRock>
I suspect you'd need a JMicron 583 or similar chipset
<IgorPec>
on debian
<IgorPec>
ID 152d:1562 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA Technology Corp.
<IgorPec>
this is the only one I have. And i don't use it :)
<DaRock>
I was thinking the specific nvme tool
<DaRock>
:-D
<IgorPec>
aah
<DaRock>
but it is good to know that the smartctl now provides nvme support too
<IgorPec>
its not nvme drive, so its not good for testing
<IgorPec>
its a m2 sata drive
<IgorPec>
but got a meeting in 10m so I can't deal with this :(
<DaRock>
np. Thx for the info :-D
<DaRock>
good luck :-)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@guidol70 (Guido Lehwalder): @mscdexdotexe @armbian maybe before package upgrade you should try - by now - to freeze kernel/u-boot/dtb via armbian-config => system => freeze (5s ago)
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<[TheBug]>
Morning
<IgorPec>
morning
<lanefu>
Mornin
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<Tenkawa>
hey... does the emmc on the c4 work yet in the linux kernel?
<Tenkawa>
I know it works fine on my n2 but some question was asked to be about the c4
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<IgorPec>
yes, emmc works fine
<IgorPec>
sd card doesn't
<c0rnelius>
hmm
<c0rnelius>
on my unit the sd works but emmc doesn't
<IgorPec>
IDK if we are ready, trying to find that out
<IgorPec>
i did test upgrade on 42 machines yesterday, only 29 are alive :)
<nekomancer[m]>
baaah!
<lanefu>
doh
<lanefu>
yeah need to give countdoku heads up on freeze
<IgorPec>
this % should be a bit higher :) but also testing procedures are not there yet
<lanefu>
yeah... and also process for publishing RC images
<lanefu>
oh duh... thats why you wanted my stuff to be able to build everything
<IgorPec>
ok, then lets say "FREEZE" and we determin how testing images will roll out
<IgorPec>
we should actually not touch stable builds, but only produce nightly images, right?
<lanefu>
...still thinking.. count doku wanted more notice on freezes.. and we're kinda givinig them less notice.. trying to think how to deal with that
<lanefu>
and yeah, shouldn't touch stable builds.. and just do nightlies
<IgorPec>
ok, then for images production is clear, just the communication part
<lanefu>
yeah... so as far as teh actual release branch
<IgorPec>
it would be nice to say this 3 timess, two weeks before and twice last week?
<lanefu>
i ended up creating confusion by having numbered release branches.. rather than just having a rolling -RC branch that we work from
<IgorPec>
like "Now is the freeze time, please close your projects"
<lanefu>
yes exactly
<lanefu>
last time i puta tenative freeze date in the original forum thread and updated it.. but i didn't communicate enough
<IgorPec>
the idea is to change procedure where we see its bad
<lanefu>
indeed
<IgorPec>
communication has to be planned as well
<IgorPec>
IMO it can be a part of the document
<lanefu>
yep i'll get that added
<IgorPec>
since we are already 8th, freeze should be done ASAP, a week from now? to late/soon?
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<lanefu>
i think a week is good...and no reason we can't focus on testing now
<IgorPec>
yes, ofc
<lanefu>
IgorPec: this will crack you up... i made the stupidest thing to "organize" my SBCs
<lanefu>
how is it for like coding? n stuff.... or bashing and vim-ing specifically
<IgorPec>
i don't have pbpro
<IgorPec>
nor pphone
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* nekomancer[m]
use it as "emergency, portable", and rare coding... But all tests shows it is very good... With small and very, very individual exclusion: I personaly badly depend on "RightControl+ins" and "RightSift+Ins". But there no "Ins" key.
<nekomancer[m]>
As terminal for firefox and open some ssh wibdows — it fits. Nothing to want to add. Only Ins key.
<IgorPec>
i have 8 notebooks at home, enough :)
<lanefu>
lol ya.. trying to resist another notebook
<IgorPec>
my primary one is dell xps ... so pinebook is not really a match :)
<lanefu>
but really i only use 2... my work 13"mbp and a lenovo thinkpad x131e which is a old laptop made for higher ed
* nekomancer[m]
have 7 ^)
<lanefu>
and the screen sucks really bad on the thinkpad
<nekomancer[m]>
use 3
<IgorPec>
i 2-3, old pinebook is used as a always on terminal
<lanefu>
i wish the pinebook pro was smaller
<lanefu>
i dont want anything bigger than my 13" macbook