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<zoobab> Let's hope Armbian won't be infected: http://techrights.org/2021/02/02/microsoft-pi/
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<lanefu> that's some dramatic nonsense
<lanefu> an apt repo isnt being infected
<lanefu> no different than using a ppa
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<Werner> Good morning
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<IgorPec> good morning
<IgorPec> late one :) spending too much time with US folks lately
<pmjdebruijn> lanefu: while the writing is overdramatic, shipping an external repo by default (if that's true) is in very poor taste though
<IgorPec> boiling frog sindrome
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<e3ef13f4ff44> something is wrong with uboot on opi zero 2 latest stable image
<e3ef13f4ff44> it tries to boot from pxe
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<IgorPec> which opi zero 2
<IgorPec> h3 or h5
<IgorPec> "Experimental support"
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<Werner> zero2 will work again once sunxi-dev is bumped to 5.11
<Werner> Or 5.12, dont know. I think the latest patchset from andre is made against linux-next
<e3ef13f4ff44> ah ok
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<lanefu> pmjdebruijn: fair point.
<IgorPec> e3ef13f4ff44 werner I already fixe few things, so it boots again and network works
<IgorPec> so basic functions are back
<Werner> ok
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<lanefu> hi!
<Werner> hey lane
* lanefu getting M1 macbook pro later today 🤠
<pmjdebruijn> presumably to run OSX
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<lanefu> haha yeah
<lanefu> its my work machine
<lanefu> gonna identify all the pain so our devs don't have to
<lanefu> will also give me inspiration to finish this
<lanefu> lane@billroyall:~/GIT/build$ cat config/boards/virtual-generic.wip
<lanefu> # Armbian Generic ARM64 image for qemu
<lanefu> BOARD_NAME="Virtual Generic"
<lanefu> BOARDFAMILY="generic"
<lanefu> KERNEL_TARGET="current"
<lanefu> SERIALCON="ttyS0"
<lanefu> FULL_DESKTOP="no"
<lanefu> BOOT_LOGO="yes"
<rneese> what unit is this
<lanefu> what unit is what
<rneese> that your playing with
<rneese> lol
<lanefu> that's for making an armbian virtual machien image
<rneese> ahh ok
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<ArmbianTwitter> @xahteiwi (Florian Haas 🇪🇺): In case you want to know how it's going: I'm still loving my PBP. Recently switched to @armbian with a 5.9.14 kernel. Truly fine piece of kit. Thanks again to @dmsimard for pointing me to it! https://t.co/LnJxV56Vfc https://tinyurl.com/y39euspn (1s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @YaoHL5 (The Shadow Warrior): @summitkg Just tried the Armbian OS. I'm very impressed. I have never seen an OS so worthless as this. My USB keyboard won't even work. I boot into utter disappointment. Bravo. I didn't know a program this bad can even be compiled. https://tinyurl.com/y28uukkm (8s ago)
<rneese> why do people post on twiter and not come into the irc channel
<rneese> this twitter bot is just a a pain
<rneese> I dont use twiter but oit should have posted on twitter to join the irc cannel
<rneese> s/cannel/channel
<ArmbianHelper> rneese meant to say: I dont use twiter but oit should have posted on twitter to join the irc channel
<archetech> true it's intrusive garbage
<aleph-> Maybe there's a patch waiting to be written there?
<aleph-> Link directly to freenode webchat or something with the channel name
<aleph-> Might need to do some sentiment analysis or something admittedly. And sentiment analysis is mostly bunk heh
<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @xahteiwi: In case you want to know how it's going: I'm still loving my PBP. Recently switched to @armbian with a 5.9.14 kernel. Truly f… https://tinyurl.com/y6dsc9o8 https://tinyurl.com/y5asxrdh (18s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @YaoHL5 @summitkg Not sure what you have tried but Armbian OS for Raspberry Pi does not exists. You can try to understand why. Or not. https://t.co/3DVik6SddQ https://tinyurl.com/y57j6f79 (2s ago)
<archetech> Added ArmbianTwitter to your ignore list
<IgorPec> am i replying to a bot ? :)
<archetech> out of sight is good enough
<IgorPec> but i see mr is having troubles with unknown version of os on rockpic
<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): Armbian 21.02 Urubu release is coming - this week, next week, soon! https://t.co/JoBnBzmT61 #release #upgrade #newfeatures #bugfixes @orangepixunlong @Olimex @thepine64 @solid_run @9to5linux @StationGeeker @therockpi @sinovoip @Tinkerboarding @librecomputer https://t.co/dWFDczHRdG https://tinyurl.com/yxrc9hfk (1s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @9to5linux (9to5Linux): @armbian @orangepixunlong @Olimex @thepine64 @solid_run @StationGeeker @therockpi @sinovoip @Tinkerboarding @librecomputer Can't wait! 😃 https://tinyurl.com/yxw4actd (4s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @thepine64 (PINE64): @armbian @orangepixunlong @Olimex @solid_run @9to5linux @StationGeeker @therockpi @sinovoip @Tinkerboarding @librecomputer Phenomenal! https://tinyurl.com/y4fk76xg (19s ago)
<stipa> rneese: it's beacuse someone who calls Armbian a program for sure doesn't know what an IRS is.
<stipa> IRC*
<IgorPec> haha :)
<stipa> lol
<ArmbianTwitter> @4ntsu (antsu): @armbian @orangepixunlong @Olimex @thepine64 @solid_run @9to5linux @StationGeeker @therockpi @sinovoip @Tinkerboarding @librecomputer Curious about the release name. Is it by any chance named after the Portuguese word for "vulture"? https://tinyurl.com/y4nwspyj (9s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @4ntsu (antsu): @armbian Curious about the release name. Is it by any chance named after the Portuguese word for "vulture"? https://tinyurl.com/y69aw4zl (11s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @4ntsu Currently not much art involved. Generated this way: https://t.co/a1WTUszylH https://tinyurl.com/y2amqxfp (9s ago)
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<rneese> i just dont find a need for a bot that spews twitter crap into the channel all the time
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<kre10s> Does anyone have an OLIMEX A20-SOM204-EVB? Could I contract someone to test/fix armbian support for it?
<stipa> kre10s: I guess IgorPec could help with that...
<kre10s> Do you by chance know if he has the hardware?
<stipa> rneese: idk, for some reason it doesn't annoy me, it brings some movement into the channel...
<stipa> kre10s: i wouldn't know, but if you have the money anything is possible...
<stipa> kre10s: what about this? https://www.olimex.com/wiki/ArmbianHowTo
<kre10s> I have not had success with those images. OLIMEX themselves say they "no longer support the Armbian images"
<stipa> stick around, also check #armbian-devel and ask there
<kre10s> I've tested an armbian image kindly supplied by Werner that also would not boot completely.
<stipa> is it cheaper for you to change the board tha supports Armbian maybe?
<stipa> if Olimex doesn't give support and there's no data bout the chips it'll be hard to make it work
<kre10s> It is an option. although i would hate to throw away the boards I already have. I'm sure someone with experience can make it work.
<stipa> yeah, dropping support from the manufacturer is a bitch
<stipa> they don't see any interests in it
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<stipa> in giving the support or can't afford it
<grae> evening all
<stipa> hi grae
<stipa> kre10s: it's tough choice to make
<rneese> only major issue on armboards is most are stuck at 4 gig currently and we need to see more with 8 or higher for heavy use
<rneese> also i want to see more nvme channels
<stipa> yeah
<stipa> 8gb could make nice dektop machines
<stipa> more even better
<rneese> the pbp is a nice laptop
<rneese> I have to get mine loaded and running
<rneese> been playing with manjaro mate img
<rneese> its nice
<stipa> most of the time manjaro is nice, yeah
<stipa> i have it on three intel machines
<rneese> I have 1 intel laptop everything else is arm
<stipa> fancy
<rneese> n2/t4/som-rk3399 dev kit v1
<rneese> pinebookpro
<kre10s> I will check back another time.
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<stipa> fancy collection
<stipa> of machines
<rneese> well doing armbian dev you need them
<rneese> hoping we have imgs ready soon
<rneese> still have a few issues working on
<grae> although it's a proprietary mess, the Jetson Xavier has ~32 GB RAM and onboard NVME. If nothing else would kick butt as a build server ...
<grae> that's it. a colleague has one on his desk for an upcoming effort
<grae> it's both impressive and astonishing as some of the implementation decisions they made
<stipa> they have an expirience
<grae> Xavier NX is a different part ...
<rneese> 699
<rneese> wow
* grae shrugs
<grae> expensive for a hobbyist, but I've seen far worse
<IgorPec> almost 10y later. still not much changed
<grae> agreed
<IgorPec> we actually tried / hoped to get Jetson up, but is such a mess
<IgorPec> this one is preasumably the same ecosystem
<grae> I was looking at the Xavier
<IgorPec> i know
<grae> they have the bootloader configuration in the DTB
<grae> why would they do that
<grae> 37 partitions on the eMMC
<IgorPec> haha
<grae> why
<grae> 37 is not hyperbole. it is not an exaggeration.
<IgorPec> yeah, no idea
<[TheBug]> same reason old Android did
<grae> dropped u-boot. who uses that?
<[TheBug]> its probably an image / kernel grown from some early Android
<IgorPec> but for Android you could have found some reasoing
<IgorPec> few is fine i guess
<[TheBug]> Android in some instances made like 8-10 partitions I guess
<[TheBug]> but you could do it for different reasons of security to comparmentalize things
<IgorPec> having more for some failover situations i can understand
<[TheBug]> compartmentailze*
<grae> or to skip a filesystem implementation. why use FAT when GPT supports as many blobs as you need?
<IgorPec> or for storing "factory defaults"
<[TheBug]> well come sill have like overlay and then different versions of active firmware
<[TheBug]> yeah
<IgorPec> FAT = Windows communinity friendly :) must have
<[TheBug]> You know
<IgorPec> ok, we can have many ways of implementationm
<[TheBug]> old SDK for ARM based IP cameras were built in a similar fashion
<[TheBug]> but still not 37 patitions
<[TheBug]> but you would have like you were saying, overlay, firmware 1-3, and such on the nand or sdcard
<IgorPec> yeah, a few is reasonable
<IgorPec> logical and adds value
<[TheBug]> maybe they really didn't trust their customer so there is 30 failover partitions ;p
<[TheBug]> or maybe they knew logging to sdcard could destroy differnt areas of sdcard
<IgorPec> i am getting curious
<[TheBug]> so why not have an image every 8MB ;p
<[TheBug]> then you are sure to at least have one boot
<grae> It's predecessor, the TX2, only has ~27. And they use a separate partition for BL1, BL1B, BL2, BL2B, kernel, DTB, etc ...
<IgorPec> well, i have one USB key here with many partitions ... to simulate complex ZRAID pool
<IgorPec> but not to have any gain, just to test how zfs handle it
<grae> pardon my ignorance as I've not spent any time with ZFS, but could you just write some flat files and build a RAID out of those?
<IgorPec> i think it also go, but i use partitions
<rneese> have to work on the dtb for the som-rk3399 dev kit also
<grae> doesn't happen to be a SMARC module, does it?
<IgorPec> anyone looked upon Fosdem schedule?
<grae> I've not
<ArmbianTwitter> @T4R74N (Tarzan): @armbian @orangepixunlong @Olimex @thepine64 @solid_run @9to5linux @StationGeeker @therockpi @sinovoip @Tinkerboarding @librecomputer I'm counting down the days for https://tinyurl.com/yytuzdjm (24s ago)
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<IgorPec> well, its a lot of material
<IgorPec> its impossible to catch it all anyway
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