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<kprasadvnsi[m]>
anybody tried LCD & touch panel with OrangePi 4?
<stipa>
there were some peeps trying to make LCD's and SPI working on opi 1 i guess
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
it a matter of writing a proper device tree node for it. basically i have to describe my LCD panel in DT form so that DSI driver can prob my LCD
<stipa>
good luck
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<Tonymac_32>
stipa the Pi does have a half of that port
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<Tonymac_32>
I believe both the DSI and CSI connectors on the Pi are only using 1/2 the lanes
<Tonymac_32>
that's all tied heavily to the SoC however
<Tonymac_32>
so for RK, AMlogic, etc it's completely different
<stipa>
Tonymac_32: good to know
<Tonymac_32>
It's a port I have my eye on as the Tinker Board has one, the same half-implementation so it could plug and play Pi parts
<stipa>
you mean on raspberry pi, right?
<stipa>
when you say "Pi"
<Tonymac_32>
right, sry
<Tonymac_32>
The Rock Pi I believe likewise went with the raspberry setup
<Tonymac_32>
yes
<stipa>
yeah, it's cool since rasp pi has a lots of code and support
<stipa>
i guess you mean't on that?
<stipa>
and hardware
<Tonymac_32>
well, the cameras are a big shrug
<Tonymac_32>
the newest one is at least interesting
<Tonymac_32>
the displays likewise are, eh
<Tonymac_32>
but the software is all from scratch for each SoC
<stipa>
sure, when you deal with so lo level stuff
<stipa>
when you're a python ninja you don't care about that
<stipa>
every board is same to you
<stipa>
ha ha
<Tonymac_32>
except none of them support the crap well haha
<stipa>
well
<stipa>
there's not much low level peeps since it requieres high intelligence to do that stuff
<stipa>
and they do some smarter stuff usually
<stipa>
than to write a driver for one screen that works on all SBC's
<stipa>
from my point of view that should code a LCD manufacturer
<stipa>
what they do is copy paste some LCD design, produce bunch of it and you can't use it
<stipa>
when you buy it
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<stipa>
they simply expect that someone will code drivers for free
<stipa>
usually, when somone writes a driver prices jump up
<stipa>
all of a sudden chip is 3 times expensier
<stipa>
or screen, or whatever
<stipa>
that's how i see it
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
<stipa "there's not much low level peeps"> That's hardly true.😆 Intelligence is overrated. For low level stuff you need to know what goes where in the hardware.
<stipa>
kprasadvnsi[m]: you're a humble man
<stipa>
you should see high level idiots how they prais themselves for print "hello world" on the screen and whole world think they're supreme intelligence
<stipa>
vs writing a driver for that screen
<stipa>
there's a huge difference
<stipa>
today i saw Tab in a chrome eating 80% idling
<stipa>
2 cores
<stipa>
intel
<stipa>
tablet
<stipa>
Pinterest.com , well that's just a piece of shit
<stipa>
not a code
<stipa>
they earn a lot of money and non of them knows how to optimize tat piece of shit
<stipa>
or maybe even 4
<stipa>
cores
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<kprasadvnsi[m]>
<stipa "today i saw Tab in a chrome eati"> Well, this is done on purpose so you get motivated to buy a new device. It's a planned obsolescence.
<stipa>
kprasadvnsi[m]: there's truth in that
<stipa>
i know games sell hardware
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
There is reason most SoC vendors don't released TRM and their BSP is full of binary blobs. They don't want you to get support for 10 years.
<stipa>
that's for sure
<stipa>
well, it's to expect, they live of selling hardware
<stipa>
and if they want to live they have to constantly sell it
<stipa>
they won't risk their security overy stuff that actually works
<stipa>
they get money we get shit
<stipa>
and we always want more shit in hope newer will be better
<stipa>
and it never gets better
<stipa>
with linux it's another story
<stipa>
not completely but much better
<stipa>
but
<stipa>
the possibility is also that they don't know to make things to work as they should
<stipa>
that was an eye opener for me when one man told it to me
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
When you buy a new phone. Do you own that phone or rent it for 2 years because manufacturer will not support that phone for more then 2 years nor they will let anybody else to support it.
<stipa>
the question i ask is "Is it even my phone?"
<stipa>
probably renting
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<kprasadvnsi[m]>
Yah, that's the sad situation we are in.
<stipa>
sure
<stipa>
that's what i wanted to say, maybe they're all just stupid as well
<stipa>
they think it's something great but it isn't
<stipa>
it's half done phone
<stipa>
if we forget about the bloatware and spam
<stipa>
and blobs and whatever
<stipa>
it's half done shit
<stipa>
why?
<stipa>
beceuse they don't know better
<stipa>
which is probable
<stipa>
but we all know that people that make decissions in busniess at some point screw perfect product because of some stupid idea
<stipa>
when you have to work with idiots you'll have to satisfy their idiotic ideas to make them happy
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<Tonymac_32>
stipa, you feeling ok? Need to talk about anything? :D
<stipa>
i'm fine, thank you Tonymac_32
<stipa>
there are many ways to skin a cat
<Tonymac_32>
The cat appreciates none of them
<Tonymac_32>
XD
<stipa>
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<stipa>
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<stipa>
`-.-' \ )-`( , o o)
<stipa>
`- \`_`"'-
<stipa>
i had a wron impression that everyone are cocky over here...
<stipa>
i'll try to be quiet from now on
<stipa>
i'll try to blend in
<Tonymac_32>
hahahaha
* stipa
resists te urge to be cocky
<Tonymac_32>
I usually just say "managers" when discussing dumb people
<stipa>
noone likes them
<Tonymac_32>
in the context of a project I am representative of, well I've been trained by corporate
<Tonymac_32>
so I'm not so direct
<Tonymac_32>
I agree that there is a massive gap between low level coding and scripting/etc. There are of course masters of the latter that do a great job
<Tonymac_32>
they cost too much money
<Tonymac_32>
kind of like the guys who would actually make a good BSP for a new SoC
<Tonymac_32>
so what you see is the labor of the intern or the student, or the new hire, or the idiot
<Tonymac_32>
you never notice the work of the skilled ones
<stipa>
i also think the skilled ones are hard to find
<stipa>
they're masked by bunch of birocracy
<stipa>
and what makes things worse if they don't want to be known
<stipa>
some from my view stay idiots to the end of the carrer
<stipa>
career*
<stipa>
and there a re bunch of those who think they know something but they actually dont
<stipa>
but are doing well on the market
<stipa>
which is the reason for half done stuff
<stipa>
it's done if you ask them
<stipa>
rarely anything works as it should nowdays
<stipa>
not just the electronics
<Tonymac_32>
appliances come to mind
<stipa>
sure
<stipa>
quality control is just very bad regarding everything
<stipa>
finding something, you know that just works is hard especially if salesmen write reviews and give advices what "should" be a good product or service
<stipa>
simple search for information about what's of good quality ends up being sales pitch of the crap you want to avoid
<stipa>
a trap :D
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@ericepe (Eric Poscher-Mika): @XTaran @climagic Yep, the RemoteCommand didn't work for me, will have to try again. Debian/Ubuntu to armbian BTW https://tinyurl.com/yccgf8lw (29s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@kprasadvnsi (Kali Prasad): You know you got a crappy machine when @armbian build takes more than a hour.😬 https://tinyurl.com/ybns9tc4 (14s ago)
<Xogium>
in canada phone companies don't have the right to sell huawei anymore
<Xogium>
if they do they can be in trouble
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
anybody feeling like writing their own Mipi DSI panel driver?😆
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
Linux DRM is a black hole. 4 hours into documentation and I am going nowhere with this thing.
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<e3ef13f4ff44>
kprasadvnsi[m]: the problem is that armbian even doesn't boot
<e3ef13f4ff44>
hangs on fsck
<e3ef13f4ff44>
i know that the board is wip
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
<e3ef13f4ff44 "kprasadvnsi: the problem is that"> It should boot. Last time I checked it works.
<kprasadvnsi[m]>
Where you seeing the output?
<e3ef13f4ff44>
uart
<Tonymac_32>
lanefu I've used an E397 Huawei
<lanefu>
Tonymac_32: cool with what carrier
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<stipa>
Huawei is banned everywhere just not in China i guess
<stipa>
but if China would ship it i would take a risk
<stipa>
after all it's hacking
<stipa>
i have also seen usb lte sticks from Huawei to be the best ones for linux
<stipa>
there are used hacked/unlocked ones from US providers lanefu
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<stipa>
you could get those on local used stuff markets
<stipa>
it's pretty much ebay China stuff with logo from some of the US lte providers
<stipa>
but if you ask me, after two lte modems/routers i would go with something that has linux support/driver for sure, neither of them works as it should and you can't fix them...
<stipa>
E397 Huawei looks fancy, haven't seen that one before
<stipa>
40$ from China, but if it's stable it's worth it
<nekomancer[m]>
huawei uses binary own kernel, specific builds. no sources, no drivers. Take it as is or drop it.
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<stipa>
at least it integrates with Linux
<Tonymac_32>
I have the Cricket branded one, I use it with Fi
<Tonymac_32>
yeah nekomancer[m], I use them for remote machines that are moving non-personal data
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<Tonymac_32>
lanefu a pretty significant Hantro VPU patchset just hit the mailing list, seems to be focused on the i.MX8 but will help Rockchip
<stipa>
from what i'm seeing only "Hologram sim" can be used with that 4G USB lte
<stipa>
so, the idea is to earn on selling lte traffic and have code for the modem open
<stipa>
but i guess it can roam betweene lte providers
<stipa>
it would be oke for some sensors, not so for watching YT
<stipa>
data is too expensive
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@realCWolpert (Le Dahu): Damn... I should have checked #armbian support before I bought the Orange Pi zero2. I can't ssh in as its network adapter doesn't seem to work yet, at least it doesn't acquire an IP address via DHCP. https://t.co/5GujcHa71Lhttps://tinyurl.com/y8zk7fpn (27s ago)
<stipa>
but if the client is paying for it then it makes sense
<stipa>
if it's a big one it won't even notice the expense
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<lanefu>
Tonymac_32:interesign wahts a hantro
<lanefu>
Tonymac_32: i feel like i'm a week away from having my SBC farm in proper order again
<ArmbianTwitter>
@VeryMetalDev (VeryMetalDev ⌨️🖥️👨🔧🖋️✏️😷): @igor_os777 Windows share still 80,2% ? This would make my Armbian efforts fall under 1,2% ?👀Bog i did not know i was operating in that much of a niche market, presumed this had differentiated more whilst in the lab. Been using Windows 10 for half a year after many years of Linux only. https://tinyurl.com/y99jwfp7 (6s ago)