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<mangix>
stipa: a correct one
<mangix>
that being said, they're convenient
<mangix>
I remember bricking mine during a flash update
<mangix>
*UEFI update
<stipa>
yeah, now it's harder to fix it
<mangix>
the fact that it was removable made recovery a lot easier
<mangix>
oh it's worse
<mangix>
AMD motherboards use 1.8 volt chips
<mangix>
for no good reason
<stipa>
yeah, it's not servicable anymore
<stipa>
it is but it's not easy
<stipa>
and not cheap
<mangix>
i have to flash any modded BIOS directly to the flash chip since the new ones are signed
<stipa>
like they have some protection?
<stipa>
serial number?
<stipa>
like apple parts?
<stipa>
i wouldn't know, i have 10 years old computers
<mangix>
They call it Security Flash Check. It's some signature in the UEFI that the flasher checks.
<stipa>
so, every board has it's own signature?
<stipa>
and all codes of all motherboards are embedded in the flasher code?
<stipa>
why woudl they protect bios chip like that?
<mangix>
eh no. I believe the UEFI file itself has a signature that the flasher checks. There's some way to make it work but I haven't been able to do so.
<stipa>
so you can clone the content of the flash and put into another chip and put it on the board and the board would boot?
<stipa>
it's not a harware lock
<mangix>
No it's not. It's a software one
<stipa>
ok
<mangix>
meaning I can use an SPI programmer to bypass it
<mangix>
but that's quite inconvenient
<stipa>
it's messy
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<mangix>
Yeah tried again. Doesn't work.
<stipa>
i guess you need a hot air station to desolder that bios?
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<archetech>
thats best but this isa salvage op of 2 boards goofin around
<archetech>
thats best but this is a salvage of 2 1155 dell 660 boards goofin around
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<Pander>
Hi all, quick quest, do kernel upgrades come via apt? Are there kernel upgrades in between Armbian version releases? (How often/when?)
<lanefu>
Pander: yes via apt. Typically only updates for major security events. If you want frequent updates. You can use armbian-config to choose to use nightly kernel builds
<Pander>
The date of the latest release was just before the feature I need (enabling a kernel module) has come available. Bit hesitating as nightly build can come with unstable stuff.
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @RonbamThe @BrideOfLinux Armbian does not support any RPi device. https://tinyurl.com/y3bcu7y4 (27s ago)
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<RoyK>
hi all. I have a BPI M2 Zero, but I lack a monitor with hdmi. How can I configure the wifi by mounting the sd card in another computer?
<ArmbianTwitter>
@RonbamThe (Honest Ron): @DieZuckerbude @BrideOfLinux I'm using Armbian on my Rock64 etc devices, and some other distro on the RPIs. Not Raspbian, in any case. https://tinyurl.com/y4o63jby (28s ago)
<stipa>
configuring something like wifi could take some time even through serial communication, doing it the way you want it would be a nightmare
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<RoyK>
stipa: I have a few...
<RoyK>
stipa: I just wanted to do a headless setup and didn't have one around when I asked. Seems the problem now is that I don't get an IP address unless I run dhclient manually. I'm updating to latest everything now to see if that helps
<RoyK>
any idea why this works if I run dhclient manually, but not otherwise?
<stipa>
beacause dhclient contacts dhcp server on the network for ip, dns...
<stipa>
and then you get an ip and all that stuff
<stipa>
if you set the ip, gateway, netmask, dns manually you won't need to run dhclient
<stipa>
if for example network hasn't got an dhcp server somewhere you need to set static ip...
<stipa>
it all depends on the network you want to join
<stipa>
yours have dhcp server running somewhere
<stipa>
probably in a modem
<stipa>
dhcp server makes thing easy, especially if you have windows or macos client, you only need a wifi passowrd to connect and everything else is done automatically via dhcp server
<stipa>
and in linux desktop enviroments things are easy
<stipa>
as well, but when you're using linux CLI you get to know about things like dhclient
<stipa>
otherwise it's all automatic if you don't have some fancy network stuff going
<stipa>
i for example have dhcp server that always assigns the same ip adress to a MAC adress
<stipa>
even if it's dhcp on the network it looks like ip's are static
<stipa>
so if i want to connect something fast to the network dhcp will do it for me
<stipa>
if i want to go wild with static settings i can do it as well if i want
<stipa>
you can tweak it to your needs
<stipa>
hcient is fancy stuff
<stipa>
dhclient*
<stipa>
but i'm not a freak or something, i use PiHole to do it for me
<stipa>
fancy web gui and stuff
<stipa>
for dhcp and local dns server
<stipa>
and ad blocking
<stipa>
there are scarier ways as well
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